John Kerry’s Gonna Get Those Swifties…
November 17th, 2007 at 12:06am Mark Noonan
…just you wait and see!
Sen. John Kerry, whose 2004 presidential campaign was torpedoed by critics of his Vietnam War record, said Friday he has personally accepted Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens’ offer of $1 million to anyone who can disprove even a single charge of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
In a letter to Pickens, who provided $3 million to bankroll the group during Kerry’s race against President Bush, the Massachusetts Democrat wrote: “While I am prepared to show they lied on allegation after allegation, you have generously offered to pay one million dollars for just one thing that can be proven false. I am prepared to prove the lie beyond any reasonable doubt.”
Kerry, a Navy veteran and former prosecutor, said he was willing to present his case directly to Pickens and would donate any proceeds to the Paralyzed Veterans of America.
Pickens issued his challenge Nov. 6 in Washington, while serving as chairman of a 40th anniversary gala for American Spectator magazine, according to two Internet accounts of the gathering and Kerry, who said he spoke to people who were there.
The news story goes on to claim that many of the Swifties allegations were already proven lies…which doesn’t square with Kerry’s insistence that he’s now going to prove them lies; either they’ve already been proven lies, or they haven’t…so, either Kerry is lying, or the Associated Press is (leaving open the possibility that both are lying - this is a Democrat and the MSM, after all). It will be interesting to see how this plays out - my bet is that it will be like Kerry’s oft-repeated pledge to release his military records: he’ll say he’s gonna do it, not do it, and then after a while say he did what he didn’t do…and the lefties will just buy it.
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21 Comments
1. American Singles » &hellip | November 17th, 2007 at 1:20 am
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2. neocon | November 17th, 2007 at 8:51 am
And OJ is going to catch the real killers.
Stay tuned
3. Retired Spook | November 17th, 2007 at 9:38 am
During the time when the SwiftBoat Vets were making their allegations, I had just finished reading O’Neal’s book. As a retired Naval Officer, I was intrigued to the point where I did a tremendous amount of research, not so much to prove to myself that they were right as to prove to myself that they were not lying (I know, basically the same thing).
There was (probably still is if I had time to look, which I don’t) an incredible amount of information available for anyone who wanted to dig — I’m talking about PDF files of hand written after-action reports, testimony from various players. About the only thing I remember anyone ever proving is that, in the heat of war, some people had slightly different recollections of events.
In my 24 years in the Navy and Navy Reserve, I knew several people like Kerry — people who tried to inflate virtually everything they did. Two significant facts that weighed on my mind were that Kerry volunteered for Swift Boat duty (after spending his first tour as an Admiral’s aid on board ship off the coast of South Vietnam. Shortly after Kerry joined the Swift Boat squandron, the mission of the Swift Boats changed from relatively safe coastal patrol to more dangerous patrol of rivers in the Mekong Delta. Kerry began collecting his 3-purple-heart ticket out of there almost immediately. Did he intentionally shoot himself in the foot? Of course not, but there was little doubt that at least two of his PH’s were accidently self-inflicted and, IIRC, the third was received during an incident when he turned tail and ran, leaving the rest of his squadron behind facing enemy fire. In none of the 3 incidents resulting in a PH did he lose a single day of duty. The Navy doctor who removed the tiny splinter of shrapnel that eventually resulted in the first PH, tesitified that he had received worse wounds trimming his roses.
Given the heroic actions of so many thousands of men and women in Vietnam, I never could figure out why anyone who served would defend Kerry, unless he paid them to do so. His actions were, for the most part, indefensible, and referring to him as a decorated war hero demeaned all legitimately decorated war heros.
4. AgentFear | November 17th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
Gosh I can picture W behind the helm of the swift boat. Captaining. Our brave V.P. behind the deck gun. Sneering, firing, nostrils flared. Screaming at the top of his lungs, “you want some of this? Come on commies, come and get some!” Wolfowitz is the deck hand. Doing what deck hands do.
Rummie is providing air cover. Dougie F. is radio man.
All functioning like a well oiled commie killing machine.
Wait, it’s just a dream. Wake up. They were actually shotgunning beers in the frat house.
My bad.
5. eric | November 17th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
Agent,
President Bush (not W - your lack of respect is despicable) did not tout a hyperbolic service record during the presidential campaign. Kerry did and he got taken to task for it by many of the men who served with him. If he had not exaggerated his time in the service, he might be our President right now. Luckily for us, he was exposed as a fraud before it was too late.
6. phnx | November 17th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
A red flag for me was Kerry’s 8mm film recreations of his battle exploits. Who in the hell would do this except someone who was trying to create a false legacy as a war hero? In my two tours I never saw anything llike this.
7. Porter Jervis | November 17th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
Jesus Christ has a similar process for the braggart.
Heaven does not await those who perform good deeds as men will boast, but rather those that believe will be saved.
8. markg8 | November 17th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Pickens should live up to the terms of the challenge he made instead of trying to change the offer when he’s called on it. He’s showing he has as little honor as the Swiftboaters but then he did bankroll them didn’t he?
(Ed. Note: Off-topic part of comment deleted)
Kerry was right in 1972 and right in 2004. Sadly we’re still stuck with the clown who has been wrong about virtually everything
9. Retired Spook | November 17th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
Kerry was right in 1972
Markg8, that was about the time Kerry was meeting secretly with the enemy in Paris while still a commissioned Naval officer. That was about the time he was part of a group that advocated assassinating a number of United States Senators. (in all fairness, he did abandon that group when their intentions because clear, but what does it say about his judgement that he joined it in the first place?) That was also about the time he betrayed his brothers in arms by testifying before Congress about fictitious attrocities. Explain to me what was “right” about all those actions.
10. plainjane | November 17th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Why don’t more of you challenge Kerry. But once you make the bet don’t be a coward like that Texas clown Pickens. He was all talk in front of the white folks, but now is changing the terms of the bet.
11. eric | November 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Wow. White folks. That is racist and offensive. I am an Irish/Arab/Czech/French American.
Besides, Kerry already lost the challenge. Do a little research before you spew your nonsensical babble.
12. phnx | November 18th, 2007 at 12:01 am
Plainjane,
Why doesn’t Kerry just release ALL of his military records like he promised?
HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY until he does.
13. Xango Annie | November 18th, 2007 at 12:20 am
You must not mind plainjane..she is of academia, they don’t know much and what they do know is usually wrong..
14. Mark Noonan | November 18th, 2007 at 12:40 am
Spook,
Looking at Kerry’s life, it is pretty obvious to me that he went to Vietnam to try and do a “Kennedy” - get into the war, get decorated as a war hero, come home and have a metoric rise to the top of American politics. Of course, when Kerry got home he found out that his three PH’s (however earned) weren’t a badge of honor in the liberal parts of Massachusetts. Flip flopping his whole view, he went out and re-crafted himself as an anti-war hero…and that worked out just fine until he needed to run for President of the United States…then he needed to be the war hero again, but the Swifties prevented him from doing it.
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16. William Teach | November 18th, 2007 at 9:11 am
Hmm. I wonder when Kerry will actually sign and release his full Form 180’s? Still waiting.
17. Pirate's Cove&hellip | November 18th, 2007 at 9:12 am
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18. FmrMarine | November 18th, 2007 at 10:35 am
kerry is a lying, manipulating, fool, a traitor, and a coward.
He should be in Leavenworth prison for treason. Instead he is in the party of treason.
19. TiredofLibBullShit | November 18th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Why didn’t the poodle (He’s French, requires constant grooming, physically and politically and is kept by rich women) answer the Veterans at the time?
It has taken him FOUR, count ‘em FOUR years to “respond” (haven’t heard anything yet). He stated that he would release his records to remove all doubt……well, we’re still waiting.
He’ll release another propaganda film like before and say: “SEEEEEEEEEE!”
20. Bob Ramos | November 18th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
Pickens’s challenge on 11/06/2007 was that if anyone could prove that anything that the Swift Boaties was a lie, then he would award that person $1 million dollars. He did not stutter, he did not qualify his statement, he did not add any conditions. He made his challenge as stated herein. This was a “bonafide” offer in its entity.
Kerry (anyone) took him up on his challenge. To fulfill the terms of the challenge (11/06/2007), all Kerry has to do is to prove at least one of the swift boat assertions is false. That is all he has to do.
Now, Pickens wants to add conditions and it is too late. When he challenged anyone, that was the time to do it and make the challenge subject to whatever conditions he chose to insert. He did not.
if Kerry does prove to an independent “board” that at least one of the statements is false, he is entitled to the $1 Million (the vets are anyway).
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