Kossacks React to Lieberman’s Endorsement of McCain
December 18th, 2007 at 04:34am Mark Noonan
What a sweet bunch of people…
…Lieberman sabotaged Gore in the 2000 election - why was this slime selected as his running mate anyway?…
… Lieberman is a liar and a punk and he doesn’t play on any team except the Lieberman Team…
..These two old NeoCon loons banding together on a lunatic pro-war platform in the face of their respective parties disapproval …
…He’s a Republican Rat any way you read him…
…My friend got mad at me when I said if I saw Joementum on the street I’d be tempted to take a swing - and yet the violence he advocates against Muslims on a daily basis is somehow ok?! (expletive deleted) Joe Lieberman…
…Is it too late to tar and feather Leiberman and ride him ou on a rail? …
…Lieberman and McCain are joined by a common commitment to put the security interests of Israel above those of the United States…
…All Lieberman cares about is Israel…
…Lieberman is a Likud Jew. They are the hated ones from Germany…
Insults and anti-Semitism; a few threats of violence…just another day in the life of Daily Kos.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Democrats, Republicans
67 Comments
1. plainjane | December 18th, 2007 at 6:40 am
“These two old NeoCon loons banding together on a lunatic pro-war platform in the face of their respective parties disapproval …”
Kossack could have just let it at that. This statement best gets the point across.
Maybe Mark can set up a poll as to which one of the above statements best describes Liberman.
2. SEW | December 18th, 2007 at 6:52 am
We have our share of pro terrorists here. Eh, Freedom Fighters? And our efforts to fight, that is traitors. Using the freedom that was given them by going to war. The don’t pour water on a face for 45 seconds crowd, but abortion on demand, you know, prochoice. Hollywood and other advanced intellectuals. Pollutants. Lawn sausage.
And worse they are proud of it.
3. AAR | December 18th, 2007 at 7:11 am
Just more of the loving, caring, civility, tolerance, and acceptance of diverse views and opinions which Democrats have consistently and constantly demonstrated for the past seven years — NOT!
And this wasn’t even close to the real vile comments and hatred constantly pouring forth from the Democrat Fringe Left!!!
AAR
4. hermie | December 18th, 2007 at 7:23 am
“…Lieberman is a Likud Jew. They are the hated ones from Germany..”
And Liberals like to boast about how ‘tolerant’ they are?
Well, this IS the face of today’s Democrat Party.
5. Eric T | December 18th, 2007 at 7:28 am
AAR
You are right! The Left is all about attacking a persons faith, or making an issue out of race. You see it almost every time these libs make a post.
6. neocon | December 18th, 2007 at 7:41 am
Their fascist comments are not only on DailyKos, they’re here as well.
I have never before witnessed such unhinged contrarians. They have no vision of anything positive and their supported policies only exasberate the problems they are trying to resolve. What’s more aggravating is that they’re too stupid to realize this, and too thick headed to consider other opinions.
Diana has emerged as the favorite puppet. Instead of debating conditions on the ground, which of course they can’t, she has resorted to “hypotheticals” with false premises to support their distorted paradigms.
Much like the “Anbar awakening” helped turn Iraq around. I believe liberals are in for an awakening in 2008, that will begin to turn our country away from the left lunatic fringe. I believe we have all had enough of the unruly children in the room.
7. AAR | December 18th, 2007 at 8:03 am
neocon,
Diana is a slick talking propagandist!
Eric T,
Democrats (Liberals) are today’s racists.
Democrats (Liberals) create and depend on racism, victimizing, and hatred to establish their single issue groups and to keep them mindlessly voting for Democrats!!!
AAR
8. neocon | December 18th, 2007 at 8:23 am
AAR,
Democrats are extrmemly racist, and it is quite offensive. How many of you heard this from Air America last week?
>>>>>Air America radio host Randi Rhodes unleashed a torrent of what’s being called “liberal racism” and accused Oprah Winfrey of “acting” when she stumped for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. On her show last week, Rhodes discussed Oprah’s appearances on Obama’s behalf, and told listeners: “She was blacker than Obama yesterday . . . Let me tell you something. Everyone who watches Oprah are the whitest people in the world . . . Even the black men who watch Oprah are white women while they watch Oprah . . .
“She’s like so unbelievably white . . . Why is she turning up the blackness a notch or two or three for these appearances?”<<<<<<
I heard the audio replay and nearly fell over. Their hatred is becoming dangerous for this country.
9. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 8:26 am
“Diana has emerged as the favorite puppet. Instead of debating conditions on the ground, which of course they can’t, she has resorted to “hypotheticals” with false premises to support their distorted paradigms.”
Kind of like the ticking bomb hypothetical that some like to use to justify torture?
10. neocon | December 18th, 2007 at 8:41 am
Casper,
Those few instances were not based on false premises. The waterboardees had timely information that saved lives.
Does that matter to you?
11. AAR | December 18th, 2007 at 8:51 am
Casper,
Democrats define torture as anything that might force a terrorist to provide information without a nice warm cell, special meals, and a government paid ACLU lawyer — to extend the guarantees and protections of the U. S. Constitution to foreign extremists intent on killing us!
Democrats call it torture to play loud, irritating music to a terrorists! It’s too bad we can’t use the same claims of torture to stop disrespectful teenagers from playing their excessively loud, obnoxious, and torturous noise they call music!
That doesn’t change the fact that Diana is a typical, slick talkin’ Liberal Propagandist, littering conservative sites with the same repetitive misinformation and disinformation we see and hear every day from the media and the left-wing Internet sites!!!
AAR
12. neocon | December 18th, 2007 at 9:08 am
Casper,
I want to know if our efforts to save innocent lives matters to you. Or should we just become the blind isolationists choosing to ignore the chaos around the globe that doesn’t directly effect us, as liberals espouse.
Would you feel better if we just held fundraisers and cocktail parties where we could all commiserate with each other about the plight of our global neighbors while actually not doing anything constructive to help them out?
Is that how you view America?
13. Joe | December 18th, 2007 at 9:42 am
Does it really matter who Liebermann endorses? The only people that voted for him in CT were Republicans. All Democrats votes for Lamont.
Why does this endorsement surprise anyone? KOs shouldn’t even care since the endorsement falls on deaf ears.
14. Joe | December 18th, 2007 at 9:45 am
Democrats define torture as anything that might force a terrorist to provide information without a nice warm cell, special meals, and a government paid ACLU lawyer — to extend the guarantees and protections of the U. S. Constitution to foreign extremists intent on killing us!
AAR,
How do you feel about torturing someone that someone, for some reason, thinks is a “foreign extremist intent on killing us”, but is really just an innocent person in a case of mistaken identity? What are you going to do? Force him to say he is a terrorist even if he isn’t?
15. Macker's World&hellip | December 18th, 2007 at 9:54 am
Kos Kidz Go Apes**t
I heard on the news last night as I was going home that Senator Joe LIeberman officially endorsed fellow Senator John McCain for President. He has good reasons for doing this. The fact that a Democrat is endording a Republican is significant enough, ev…
16. AAR | December 18th, 2007 at 10:28 am
Joe,
We aren’t interested in false confessions for the sake of propaganda. We are interested in facts which can checked for accuracy and will save American lives and cities!
How do you feel about watching the people jumping from the World Trade Center to their certain deaths? Do you ever show any concern or worry about what they were thinking as they fell? How do you feel about watching the towers collapse, knowing thousands of people anguished and died as the buildings collapsed around them? How do you feel about the length of time those people and their families agonized over their certain deaths — and the months their families have continued to grieve over their tortured deaths?
How do you feel about the police TASERING anyone who looks cross-eyed at them? How do you feel about police TASERING people stopped for speeding tickets, young kids, and even pregnant women? How long before some of those TASERED people collapse onto the pavement, concrete, or some protruding object and are severely injured or killed?
How do you feel about locking people with claustrophobia in small jail cells — knowing that is torture to them?!
Using your logic, we should just discontinue all trials, because we might — and sometimes do — convict an innocent person! Why not just admit that there might be a convicted person in prison who is innocent, and let’s free them all just in case. Why arrest anyone, knowing that a large percentage of those arrests do not result in convictions and involve innocent citizens? Democrats already want to ignore the laws on immigration involving guilty illegals, so why enforce any laws at all — knowing innocent people are arrested and some even imprisoned?!
Should we prevent police from carrying guns or firing at a criminal because an innocent person just might be injured or killed? What about those who are killed because they had something dark in their hands which police couldn’t identify?
How do I feel about allowing our intelligence agencies — who are charged with protecting our lives — using appropriate INTERROGATION techniques? I have no problem whatsoever with that — assuming appropriate policies, procedures, controls, and approvals are in place to prevent “torture for the sake of torture”!!!
AAR
17. Diana Powe | December 18th, 2007 at 10:31 am
Mark,
Please. You would think that being someone who operates a website for posting your views on political events with open commenting would have prevented you from this sort of thing. However, one would be wrong.
Unlike Blogs For Victo(r)y in which a total of three people are allowed to write entries (which is certainly the norm and your perfect right), Daily Kos is an open site with a limited number of automatic front page posters. Other registered users become able to post diaries after a delay of a few days and any diaries which they post may be recommended by other readers for movement to the front page. This is a significant reason why DailyKos.com has a traffic rank of 4,694 and BlogsForVictory.com has a traffic rank of 1,736,256 (Source: Alexa.com, 12/18/07). By comparison, Freerepublic.com has a traffic rank of 9,307.
So, a lot of people visit Daily Kos. Now, I counted down to the last of the 9 instances of “offensive” comments you cite and found it was # 206. A moment’s calculation reveals that you selected from that number just over 4% of comments that were instances of why everyone here should believe…something.
Now, speaking as a prickly pear cactus myself, I have noted on more than one occasion the fact that my name is out there for all to see and anyone with sufficient doubt about my status as “a plant” may call the Richardson Police Department and verify that I retired from RPD as a police officer earlier this year. However, everyone else here (as is the norm) uses a handle which renders them anonymous. This means that anyone, for any reason, can post something which they may not even actually believe on your website.
So, until you are ready to fully endorse and own each and every anonymous comment (you don’t have to endorse mine) here, I don’t think it’s a particularly compelling case you’ve made to anyone other than your regular supporters. Of course, this does allow them to nod sagely and furrow their brows in concern over the “truth” that all Democrats are “pro terrorists”, “traitors”, “lawn sausage”, “fascist” and “racist”.
Yes, only Democrats might be angry that someone who said this during his debate with the ultimate Democratic Senate nominee from Connecticut in July 2006:
subsequently ignores the Democratic Party primary voters and goes on to endorse a Republican for President. I think that is what you prefer to label a flip-flop which is just the awfulest thing unless it’s a flip-flop you approve of, of course. Yes, only Democrats would turn on their own in such a manner. Oh, wait. I found a random anonymous post today at FreeRepublic.com:
Nevermind. All Republicans compare other Republicans they don’t like to Nazis. This is the definitive proof. Case closed.
18. Joe | December 18th, 2007 at 10:51 am
AAR,
Your post makes no sense whatsoever.
There is a vast difference in saying police shouldn’t carry guns because something bad may happen and we shouldn’t torture people.
That was some kind of tangent you went off on.
The point is that it has been said over and over and over again from Intelligence professionals that torture does not get you any additional information.
So you want to stoop to the level of the terrorists.
And you say that Democrats speaking out against Bush is empowering the terrorists? You are pretty backwards.
19. AAR | December 18th, 2007 at 11:48 am
WOW!
Reading Diana’s latest dead herring, one would think Daily KOS is an open site welcoming and tolerant of all ideas and comments; permitting free and open discussion of diverse and opposing opinions; void of hate and profanity; where even Bush supporters, Republicans, Conservatives, Christians, pro-war, pro-military, and patriotic Americans are welcome to post their views and opinions — even those in opposition to the Liberal Agenda, Democrats, Liberals, and KOS!
“…Daily Kos is an open site with a limited number of automatic front page posters. Other registered users become able to post diaries after a delay of a few days and any diaries which they post may be recommended by other readers for movement to the front page.”
What are the criteria used by “readers” when “recommending” material to be moved to the front page?!!! The amount of hatred it contains about President Bush, the Iraq War, Christians, Republicans, and any other group targeted by the Liberal Left extremist fanatics? What are the criteria for comments which don’t appear on the “front page”? Too vulgar and hate filled to post? Is there such a thing as too much hatred and profanity on the Liberal websites?!!!
Perhaps the Left Wing extremist sites have changed from the hate and profanity filled content we have learned to expect!
Who would have ever imagined that KOS has become a regular love-fest — tolerant and understanding of all opinions and beliefs — welcoming even Bush supporters and Christians to state their views — free from verbal abuse, attack, and ridicule by KOS readers!!!
(Anyone posting personal information on the web for all to access and read is naive or a fool — or both!)
AAR
20. GOP4ME | December 18th, 2007 at 11:51 am
Joe,
You are not very bright are you?
Waterboarding is equivalent to hijacking multiple jets and using them as flying weapons to kill thousands?
You sir, with all due respect, are a complete moron.
21. Diana Powe | December 18th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
I don’t know, AAR. Perhaps it’s Adam Smith’s invisible hand, the pointer finger of which seems to keep poking you to add more exclamation points.
Note to readers: AAR is opposed to the marketplace of ideas.
22. Joe | December 18th, 2007 at 12:06 pm
GOP4ME,
I didn’t compare that at all. But thanks for making a stupid comparison.
The point (since obviously you are the not so bright one) was that if terrorists torture and act barbaric, that doesn’t mean we should.
The US should be above that since of course we have things called laws and other things called treaties (i.e. Geneva Convention).
Thanks for stooping to name-calling. Great debating skills. That is pretty typical on this site.
23. neocon | December 18th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Joe,
Did you not read the thread? The amount of vitriol displayed on this site is miniscule compared to the hatred and name calling spewed on leftist sites.
I know because I frequently check in on some and , for the most part, the level of discourse on those sites in embarrasing and indicative of the failed education system we currently have in this country.
24. Jon Parker | December 18th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
I’m in full agreement with Diana’s last post, except that there are two of us (both on the left) who comment here using our real names. Make of that what you will.
25. Jon Parker | December 18th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
I would add that I am in full agreement with the first six comments in that Kos post. Lieberman is scum.
26. Jonathan | December 18th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Joe Liberman is only doing what most politicians do: look after their own best interests and gain power, and by that, I mean, he’s throwing his own name for consideration for vice president, or some other Cabinet position.
Either way, I could care less for that power-driven scumbag.
27. AAR | December 18th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Oh you know very well Diana! That shouldn’t be too difficult to determine from reading their “enlightened and intellectual” comments and posts!!! (3)
Note to readers: As is obvious from her comments, Diana defends and supports Democrat (Liberal) websites in which their “market place of ideas” consists of preaching the most vile hatred possible — especially against America, our military and soldiers, our President, Christians, Republicans, and anyone else who disagrees with twisted and warped views, opinions, and agenda — and with the most obscene profanity possible!!!!! (5)
AAR
28. Eric T | December 18th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
AAR
I could not agree with you more. These libs think they are so posh, and cultured, and that they are so much above everyone else in their free thinking.
but then you mention God, they come unwound and you see the hate spewing out.
They are truly close minded.
Can any of you missing links out there explain why. If we came from apes and amoeba’s why are their still apes and amoeba’s. Wouldn’t they have evolved it people and be building cars and trading stocks. Why are apes still dragging their knuckles and swinging from trees in the forest?
29. Diana Powe | December 18th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
AAR,
So, while you’re on the subject of people preaching hatred. How about Rush “we’re going to find out where your kids go to school” Limbaugh, Bill “if I could strangle these people and not go to hell” O’Reilly, Michelle “Associated (with terrorists) Press” Malkin, Michael “they [lesbians] can all drop dead” Savage, Ted “suck on my machine gun [Barack Obama]” Nugent, Sean “friend and frequent guest on the program Ted Nugent” Hannity, John “unmasked them [Iraqis] as knuckle-dragging savages from the 10th century” Gibson, Melanie “We’ve got a bull’s-eye painted on her [Nancy Pelosi’s] big, wide laughing eyes” Morgan and Ann “rat poison in Justice Stevens’s crème brûlée” Coulter? Care to excoriate the right-wing media stars or are you only worked up into a snit over anonymous blog comments?
30. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
neocon,
“Those few instances were not based on false premises. The waterboardees had timely information that saved lives.”
“Could you please provide information as to where waterboarding saved lives. I’m talking specific plots that were foiled and and people that were arrested due to information that was obtained through waterboarding
AAR,
“Democrats define torture as anything that might force a terrorist to provide information without a nice warm cell, special meals, and a government paid ACLU lawyer — to extend the guarantees and protections of the U. S. Constitution to foreign extremists intent on killing us!”
Could you please provide some links showing this?
I haven’t found it on the list of the party planks.
“That doesn’t change the fact that Diana is a typical, slick talkin’ Liberal Propagandist, littering conservative sites with the same repetitive misinformation and disinformation we see and hear every day from the media and the left-wing Internet sites!!!”
I think you and neocon are just jealous because she’s a better debater than you. I know she’s a better debater than I am.
31. Ricorun | December 18th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Casper: I think you and neocon are just jealous because she’s [Diana is] a better debater than you…
Perhaps even more telling is the fact that her name was mentioned several times before she showed up. It’s gotten so attacking the messenger is a reflexive response, occuring even before the message is transmitted. What’s that about?
32. plainjane | December 18th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
29. Diana Powe | December 18th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
You are good. Be careful, Mark has a tendency to band such poster. Some advice; put in a few typos every once in a while.
33. Jeremiah | December 18th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
I have noticed on numerous occasions where the Liberals on here have said that they are scared to peices of Mike Huckabee … Well, you see there’s an explanation for that.
You see, the fact is, Demons are frightened of the name of Jesus (God).
James 2:19
You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that — and shudder.
Because God opposes the Evil forces of those who defy His precious Word.
And Diana, I don’t see how you could live with yourself with such bitter envy and and selfish ambition in your heart. Such stuff as you spew here, I can ASSURE you, does not come from heaven, but is earthly, unspiritual, and of Satan himself.
All is well, though, for the Lord will have His day of Victory, and the Proud will be struck down.
~ Jeremiah
34. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Ricorun,
I guess it’s a case of ” if you can’t beat em, belittle em.”
I’m wondering if some of the people are threatened by a little honest debate.
35. Jeremiah | December 18th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
people are threatened by a little honest debate.
Casper,
I’ll concede that Diana is being honest, she shows that she has much hatred built up in her heart for people of good faith. And too, being well-informed on the issues doesn’t play into the hands of those who have common sense.
You can bet that Satan is smart, and he will use anyone who will let him. Such as the people at Daily Kos, DU, MoveOn.org. and others.
~ Jeremiah
36. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Jeremiah,
Could you please give some examples of her hatred.
“And too, being well-informed on the issues doesn’t play into the hands of those who have common sense.”
I really don’t know what you mean by that statement. Could you please elaborate?
37. Eric T | December 18th, 2007 at 8:14 pm
Jeremiah,
Diane’s work is beautifully written, sometimes very conviencing, loaded with reasearch and facts I enjoy reading her posts. She just has her politics backwards. The Republican Party is a better political party. If any of these libs went to Mike’s blog and watched the three videos with Larry King today they would find that much of what they say is far from the truth.
38. Jeremiah | December 18th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Diane’s work is beautifully written, sometimes very conviencing ….. She just has her politics backwards.
Eric,
BINGO!!!
That’s what I’m trying to say, her posts are all laid out pretty, just like peach ripe for the picking.
And I hate to say it, but it’s just the truth and I’ll say it again, that’s EXACTLY how Satan wants it… fortunately there are a few who will use their common sense and look past it.
Sadly, there are those who will take the the bait, and get themselves caught in the muck.
I really don’t know what you mean by that statement. Could you please elaborate?
Casper,
You can have a high degree of intellect, but does that make you smart? No, you can be an illiterate and be a WHOLE lot smarter.
As always,
~ Jeremiah
39. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Eric T,
“The Republican Party is a better political party.” Now that’s funny. Just about as funny as “The Democratic Party is a better political party.”
I don’t see much difference in the parties. Both have some good guys and some not so good guys. Both are controlled by corporate interests.
40. Ricorun | December 18th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
Casper: I guess it’s a case of ” if you can’t beat em, belittle em.”
If you think about it, there are multiple layers of culpability involved. Should anyone on DKos have said the things they said about Lieberman? Can anyone really condone those comments? Likewise, of those that took offense here, how many of them live in their own glass houses? Even further, can anyone rationalize an ad-hominem attack before the “hominem” even showed up? The whole circus is getting so mindlessly reflexive it reminds me of watching chickens with their heads cut off.
By the way, for those who have never witnessed chickens with their heads cut off, it’s an amazing sight to behold: they are capable of some surprisingly integrated behaviors. Nonetheless, the behaviors, though integrated, are mindless. I think there’s a metaphore in there somewhere.
41. AAR | December 18th, 2007 at 8:38 pm
Diana,
Come on now! Do you really believe the people you cited come even remotely close to the pure hatred, vulgarity, profanity, anti-Americanism, and vile trash published on your looney left-wing fringe websites?!!!(3) Talk about trying to mislead people — YOU ARE!!!(3)
If a legitimate show aired some of the vulgar ravings from the left-wing kook sites, it would be broadcast as one big “bleep”!
Falsely accusing others, or trying to mislead readers in your effort to divert the reader’s attention from the lunacy and irresponsible “free speech” you personally support under the guise of some phony “marketplace of ideas” label does not change the facts! You support and defend it!!!(3)
I’ll bet you even support the Left Wing’s lying conspiracy theories, and their successful efforts to convince millions of Americans that President Bush and/or the U.S. government was somehow complicit in 9/11!
Oh. I do encourage everyone to join the 20 million or so listeners of Rush Limbaugh.
AAR
42. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 8:38 pm
Jeremiah,
“You can have a high degree of intellect, but does that make you smart? No, you can be an illiterate and be a WHOLE lot smarter.”
I would agree that there are people who have a high degree of intellect who aren’t very smart about a lot of things. However, I can’t think of anyone in our society who is illiterate and considered successful, other than maybe a couple of sports figures, can you?
43. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 8:47 pm
Ricorun,
“By the way, for those who have never witnessed chickens with their heads cut off, it’s an amazing sight to behold: they are capable of some surprisingly integrated behaviors. Nonetheless, the behaviors, though integrated, are mindless. I think there’s a metaphore in there somewhere.”
Let’s hope your post doesn’t lead to a nation wide “outbreak of chicken decapitations. LOL
Growing up on a farm, I witnessed more than one, and yo are right, it is an amazing sight to behold.
AAR,
“Oh. I do encourage everyone to join the 20 million or so listeners of Rush Limbaugh.”
Already tried that. Gave it up after three days (which was one day longer than I could stand Air America).
44. Jeremiah | December 18th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
However, I can’t think of anyone in our society who is illiterate and considered successful
Casper,
No, you’re not getting it…
You can be an intellectual elite, but it’s how your views affect the rest of society that counts.
In reality, what’s good for you, may not be what’s good for the rest of society. Right? That’s the way it’s supposed to be.
At any rate, common sense tells us that
Abortion is Murder. And God help America, if there was ever a mindless slaughter, it one that American Abortion “Doctors” have committed with the blood of more than 42, 000,000 innocent unborn children on their hands.
Sodomized marriage is wrong, and should be taught against, and made law that Sodomites should not be allowed to marry. And should not be allowed in the military.period.
The Death Penalty is needed for all Abortion doctors (Murderers), Sex offenders, and should be made mandatory for the sake of future families, and future lives.
The War is necessary (which BTW, Diana hates President Bush for Sheesh, what a tool she is),
for the protection of EVERYONE.
Waterboarding is NOT, get that? Waterboarding is NOT “torture”. and is needed as a means of thwarting future plans of terrorist attacks.
And the list goes on…
So, do you see what I’m getting at now?
You can be as smart as Eienstein, but unless you’ve got some common sense, *chuckles* you’re just hopeless.
~ Jeremiah
45. Jeremiah | December 18th, 2007 at 9:13 pm
it is an amazing sight to behold.
Yeah it’s amazing alright!!
Why don’t you go down to your nearest Abortion clinic and witness the tiny decapitated bodies, and limbs severed of the little babies that are being MURDERED every day.
I pity you, Casper. You know that?
As long as we can keep our government out of the hands of you and Ricoruns kind we’ll be doing fine.
Geeez!!
~ Jeremiah
46. AAR | December 18th, 2007 at 9:20 pm
Casper,
I recommend a person listen to Rush for at least 3 or 4 weeks before deciding not to listen, not to say you wouldn’t arrive at the same personal conclusion.
AAR
47. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Jeremiah,
You misunderstood me. While I witnessed chickens getting their heads cut off, I was never able to do it myself. I was just amazed at how the chickens acted without their heads. Heck, I don’t even hunt. I’m not against it. I just don’t get any enjoyment in killing things.
48. Kahn | December 18th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Casper, are they spies, POW’s, criminals, or what? Define the legal status of Al Queda prisoners please?
Because spies have absolutely no rights, criminals can be locked up forever and executed, and POW’s can be locked up until the conflicts ends, and tried for war crimes (and executed).
DEFINE please. Not just what you think torture is, but what the status of the people is?
Because if we can’t get information from them, why keep them alive?
49. Jeremiah | December 18th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
You misunderstood me.
Casper,
And you misunderstand me!
You seem to imply it is such a sight, and cruel and all, but yet, you’ll fight tooth and nail to ensure that a woman can have the right to literally Murder her own child.
What a Sin.
Like I said, you’re sad, buddy.
I’ll be praying for you.
~ Jeremiah
50. AAR | December 18th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
Casper,
As to your earlier comment…
I am not here to debate in the manner you would likely define it.
I don’t claim to be a smooth and eloquent writer or slick talking speaker. I get by.
AAR
51. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Kahn,
“Casper, are they spies, POW’s, criminals, or what? Define the legal status of Al Queda prisoners please?”
That’s kind of the problem isn’t it. How do you tell the difference?
I’m thinking that someone caught placing a IED could be considered a spy, terrorist, or whatever. A person caught selling black market goods or robbing someone would be considered a criminal and turned over to the local authorities.
The problem is most cases aren’t quite so cut and dried.
Let’s say your neighbor is mad at you because your dog barks too much. American troops come around looking for bad guys. He tells them he has seen you making bombs. You are arrested. Are you a spy, POW, or criminal. Should you be jailed, tortured, or shot. I’m not saying this has happened, but how do we know it hasn’t.
I guess what it comes down to is this. If we have absolute proof that someone is an Al Queda terrorist (whatever that might be), then I let’s nail him. I’m just not ready to torture or imprison people who might not be part of Al Queda to get the ones that are.
52. Casper | December 18th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Jeremiah,
Please refer me the post I said I was for abortion. I am glad you pray for me. I pray for you too.
53. Denver Dietz | December 18th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
(Ed. Note: Try again - this time without the obscenities)
54. Jeremiah | December 19th, 2007 at 12:04 am
Please refer me the post I said I was for abortion.
Casper,
I never said, you said you were for Abortion, no, I said —
You . are . for . Abortion.
How do I come to my conclusion?
Because of your constantly defending Liberal here!
However, just to make matters clear…
Are you for a womans right to choose?
And that’s all I’ll need to know, otherwise, I’ll continue to presume that you are for Abortion.
~ Jeremiah
55. Jeremiah | December 19th, 2007 at 12:06 am
Denver,
I’ll address your screed tomorrow.
~ Jeremiah
56. AAR | December 19th, 2007 at 12:25 am
Dietz,
“…humans and chimpanzees share more than 99% of their genetic material.”
That still leaves differences of about 35,000,000 to 40,000,000 base pairs in their DNA!
What would you expect? That God or a Creator would design each living organism from scratch? No. He would build on His previous designs, efforts, organisms, and their components to create new, different, and more complex life.
Would a home builder create a new brick, a new type of lumber, or new components for each house he built, or would he use the existing components and designs — adding new and modified components as needed — to construct the different styles and designs?
If you want to simplify it even further, every living organism, every naturally occurring inorganic rock and mineral, and virtually every item constructed by humans are made from something less than the 94 naturally occurring elements!
AAR
57. Ricorun | December 19th, 2007 at 12:41 am
AAR, I’m pretty sure you’ve confused everyone, no matter where they sit, with that #56 comment. You know, I’m beginning to think you’re a scientologist. I’m not saying there’s anything particularly wrong with that. But if you are, you might as well say so.
58. Jonathan | December 19th, 2007 at 12:51 am
Case closed! Casper is expressing Liberal viewpoints, ergo, he is for abortion!
No critical thinking required! Only biased judgment will do!
59. Diana Powe | December 19th, 2007 at 12:53 am
AAR,
Yes, I’m asking you to cite comparable left-wing media figures, not anonymous commenters, and their exact words that compare to the examples of actual statements made by the right-wing media stars I cited to you. C’mon! It must be simple. You keep assuring me that the left is all about “pure hatred, vulgarity, profanity, anti-Americanism, and vile trash”. So, post some quotes where we can compare them side by side and judge for ourselves.
Not that it has anything to do with the reason for this thread, but I don’t believe in any of the various 9-11 conspiracy theories. In fact, I believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot Governor John B. Connally, killed President John F. Kennedy and then later killed Dallas police officer J. D. Tippit, badge # 848 on November 22, 1963.
60. Jonathan | December 19th, 2007 at 1:29 am
Uh, Jeremiah, homosexuality is something that cannot be taught (as much as that Christian nutcase Jerry Falwell probably spoon-fed his brainwashed fanatics). It’s something your born with. And tell me, what the big deal if Fred likes John instead of Jane? They’re not threating you, or your way of life, so get off your homophobic rants that being gay is an abomination to all creation.
How is this common sense? You’re basically condoning the murder of individuals who are only doing their jobs!
Oh, Gee! I feel so safe thanks to Our Great Leader’s strategy of invading the wrong country that never had WMD, or had connections to the 9/11 attacks, or Bin Laden! [/sarcasm off]
Wrong. Dead wrong, Jeremiah. According to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Human Rights Watch, it is. It’s against international law and it’s considered a war crime.
Yeah. You’re a bona-fide ultra-Christian Conservative kook who believes that God hates gays and anyone that doesn’t fall lock step into your perverted version of the teachings of Christ is a liberal who needs to get in touch with God.
Judging from what you’re spewing, you may need to get in touch with Him more than we do.
61. AAR | December 19th, 2007 at 7:18 am
Diana,
Open YOUR eyes and ears… or keep them closed in denial as you choose!
Surely you can find numerous “good” left-wing sites to expand your knowledge without MY help!
If you need a little help getting started, Google: hate Bush
Make sure you also search the blogs and groups. Try a search with some profanity too. I’m sure you can think of several “appropriate” phrases routinely used by your Left-Wing friends when referring to President Bush!
AAR
62. AAR | December 19th, 2007 at 8:08 am
Ricorun,
I don’t know what is so confusing about that. Think about the way computer software and computers have evolved. There are many similarities between the DNA of simple organisms like bacteria and hard coded, rather inflexible machine language. The DNA of complex organisms is similar to the modular, structured software running on today’s large and complex, but flexible multi-functional, multi-purpose computers — where many different inputs may be processed by one module of code, resulting in different outputs. That helps explain why the DNA of humans was not as “large” as had been expected, based on extrapolating the DNA of the less complex organisms.
Scientology? Not me.
According to the Scientology website:
That sounds like a good definition of Liberalism… pretty much anything goes… if it feels right for you, it is right… no constraining morals or external rules to “restrain” or “complicate” one’s life!
AAR
63. Joe Rathaven | December 19th, 2007 at 11:51 am
Liberals (named)
On Clarence Thomas, “”I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease,” Julianne Malveaux,
On General Jerry Boykin, “I hope he’s not long for this world.” Nina Totenberg
On Jesse Helms, “”because if there is retributive justice, he’ll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will.” Nina Totenberg
“We would stone (Henry Hyde) to death, and we would go to their homes, and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families.” Alac Baldwin
Craig Kilborn, host of CBS’s “Late Late Show,” who issued the call for snipers while showing footage of George W. Bush at the GOP convention in Philadelphia.
“I will not excuse murder, and this is what happened,” Murtha on Haditha
“Murtha turned out to have correct information.” Alan Colmes on Murtha on Haditha
Representative William Clay of Missouri, recalling George W. Bush’s talk of outreach to black Americans, said that picking Ashcroft resembled “the way that Ku Klux Klan members worked to improve race relations: They, too, reached out to blacks with nooses and burning crosses.”
“I would love to personally escort [Kenneth] Lay to an 8-by-10 cell that he could share with a tattooed dude who says, ‘Hi, my name is Spike, honey.’ ” California Attorney General Bill Lockyer
“We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say ‘This is one of our bad days,’ and pull the trigger,” Democrat ad in the St. Petersberg GABBER.
On George Bush; “John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. — where are you now that we need you?” Columnist Charlie Brooker
64. Joe Rathaven | December 19th, 2007 at 11:53 am
GRABBER ad (put this S.O.B. up against a wall … and pull the trigger) was directed at Def Sec Donald Rumsfeld.
65. AAR | December 19th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
Jonathan,
As usual, you’re out in Left field… and wrong!!!
AAR
66. Ricorun | December 20th, 2007 at 6:55 pm
AAR: I don’t know what is so confusing about that. Think about the way computer software and computers have evolved. There are many similarities between the DNA of simple organisms like bacteria and hard coded, rather inflexible machine language.
I don’t see why this is so opaque to you, but what you are arguing is that there may be an intermediary between natural selection and God on the other. So, if you’re positing an intermediary actor (or not excluding one), how do you distinguish that actor from God on the one hand and natural selection on the other? What’s your evidence? And if you don’t have any, why complicate things? That’s kind of a central question — not only for me, but for science, and for faith.
67. AAR | December 20th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Ricorun,
As I have said several times before, the ability to evolve and change is exactly what God or a Creator would have incorporated into life.
The Bible also does not say God created all life at the same time, but rather in stages; from plants, to sea life, to birds, to animals — to humans — somewhat like the [modern day] Theory of Evolution! And now scientists have even concluded there was an “Eve”, although they (understandably) argue that it may not “necessarily” the Biblical “Eve”.
God or a Creator would not have started from scratch with each new plant or animal. He would have built on His prior designs and creations, resulting in much of the DNA being common between organisms.
AAR