Governor Huckabee, You’ll Want to Cancel This Campaign Stop
December 22nd, 2007 at 06:08am Mark Noonan
Well, you’ll want to - if you want to gain the GOP nomination:
San Antonio, TX, Dec 20, 2007 (CNA).- The Republican presidential candidate, Mike Huckabee, has been garnering attention in the media with his surge in political polls. However, a campaign stop this Sunday by Huckabee at a mega-church whose pastor sees Hitler as linked to the Catholic Church, could soon steal the spotlight.
According to Mike Huckabee’s campaign website, the controversial stop at Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas will take place this Sunday, December 23. He will speak at the church’s two Sunday services at 8:30 and 11:00 a.m.
The Catholic League’s president, Bill Donahue, told CNA that the pastor of the church, Rev. John Hagee, is militantly anti-Catholic.
As the senior pastor of Cornerstone, Rev. Hagee is best known for his “End-Time” writing but also focuses on bringing evangelical Protestants and Jews together.
The Catholic League asserts that John Hagee has another goal as well, “slandering the Catholic Church.”
Hagee has the long-standing litany of anti-Catholicism down pat - Crusades, Inquisition and Hitler; its all our fault, ’cause the Pope is the Anti-Christ (which Pope isn’t determined - though our guess is that its whomever happens to be Pope at the moment). While almost all Catholics and Protestants are working more and more closely together - expressing that unity Our Lord desired - there are still some out there who wish to keep the old, worn out hatreds alive. Hagee is one such, and while he’s welcome to his views, I don’t think it appropriate that a man who wishes to be President of the United States should hob-nob with the likes of Hagee. My hope is that Governor Huckabee will find something else to do on Sunday.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Religion, Republicans
19 Comments
1. ThirstyJon | December 22nd, 2007 at 7:14 am
I don’t hate Catholics but I will still consider voting for Huckabee if he goes to Hagee’s church.
:-)
ThirstyJon
freedomthirst.com
2. Aaron | December 22nd, 2007 at 8:14 am
Ah yes, I do get a chuckle seeing the Christians squabble amongst their myriad sects. End-times evangelicals hate Catholics and vice-versa, and neither group would vote for a Mormon.
Face it - self-proclaimed Christians have been killing each other by the boat load for centuries. Most (not all, but most) of the wars in Europe over the last 1000 years have been Christians killing each other over differing interpretations of 2nd and 3rd hand conflicting dubious accounts (aka, The Gospels) of what a man named Jesus might have said 2,000 years ago.
And Christians think they should be in charge of a government that openly serves and sanctions them? Could there be a better argument for the separation of church and state?
3. bagni | December 22nd, 2007 at 10:44 am
markahue
here is a nanosecond where you’re so right
because huckabee doesn’t get two things
1….his lack of understanding of the line between church and state
2….you are who you hang with
both will be his ultimate downfall
mccain will be your man!
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5. pete | December 22nd, 2007 at 11:39 am
hey remember when george bush campaigned at bob jones university, one of the most anti-catholic universities in the nation
6. Eric T | December 22nd, 2007 at 12:19 pm
Hagee has put out some decent sermons about the military, Israel, Islamic Jihad, Even our President G.W. Bush. Some of Hagee’s material is excellent and some will put you to sleep. Many churches give that sales pitch that they are the true church. And point at why the other churches are not as good. just like anything else car makers will claim their models are the best.
I have been to many different churches and the History of all of them start with the Catholic church. The apostale Peter being the First, so that goes back over 2000 yrs. The Catholic church has the actual artifacts from the cruxifiction, I have seen some of them. Pieces of the cross, the nails. In the vactican they have the “Shroud of Turin” the actual burial cloth Christ was wrapped in before he rose from the dead, and went back into the city to see everyone, that seen him brutally murdered three days earlier.
I have alot of respect for the Catholic Church, the first 1500 years after Christ’s Resurrection the Catholic Church was the only church. About 500 years ago the Lutheran Church split off and after that Baptist, ect….Catholic Bible has Sirach and several other books in it.
Many of the sects that Christianity has are teaching good sound doctrine. Where it starts getting streched is Episcopalian, ( my opinion )
7. Cory | December 22nd, 2007 at 1:30 pm
I am not a fan of Mike Huckabee in the slightest even though I appreciate his christian faith. I just don’t feel he would be a very good leader for our country.
8. steveGA | December 22nd, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Mark,
Earlier this week you stated that gays should not be offended by Christian anti-gay rhetoric, because it is simply a statement of a religious belief. Now, you are offended by a Christian’s anti-Catholic rhetoric which is also based on religious belief. Given that clear reversal of opinion, I’ve got a couple quick questions for you:
On this specific issue, could you please tell us which hateful religious rhetoric is acceptable? I assume we’re allowed to bash gays. What about blacks, hispanics, jews, evangelicals, Mormons, etc? Episcopalians, are we allowed to bash them too? Please, I want to make sure I’m following the Mark Noonan-approved guide to inflammatory speech.
My second question is more general. Is there any issue out there that you aren’t entirely hypocritical about?
9. Mark Noonan | December 22nd, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Steve,
You’re not paying attention - I didn’t say that homosexuals shouldn’t be offended by Church teachings; they shouldn’t feel threatened by them. I’m not threated by Hagee’s strange ideas, but they are offensive and if Mike Huckabee wants the votes of Catholics in 2008, he’s going to have to take that into consideration.
10. Jan | December 22nd, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Larry Kudlow: [W]hen I had Governor Huckabee on, what was it, last week or the week before, I had a bout with him. I went at it. He wants to, if need be, have government regulate salaries. I think he?s crazy. I don?t think he understands the free market business system. He?s not good on taxing, he?s not good on spending, he?s not good on free trade. In other words, all the prosperity factors seem to be Mr. Huckabee?s weakness. I don?t think he understands it. He?s just out of tune with all measures of free market, supply side economics. You know, it isn?t his religion, and I admire his religion. I personally am a man of faith. I regard myself as an Evangelical, the fact is. But it?s not his religion, it?s his positions. Condi Rice came out of the State Department. Hell, I haven?t seen her in about a month or two. She came out and attacked him because of his navet on dealing in international affairs with Iran and others. He doesn?t seem to understand power politics, and that we are in a jihadist global war.
11. Jeremiah | December 22nd, 2007 at 4:49 pm
If Mike Huckabee wants the votes of Catholics in 2008, he’s going to have to take that into consideration.
I agree, Mark.
Despite the many theological differences on Church doctrine, that should not be something that divides us. It is the measure of God’s Love that really counts the most, shown to us, through His coming in the form of flesh, and sacrificing Himself for every one of us.
When the many denominations come together and take that into consideration, then is when America will be strengthened, and only then.
As long as we’re divided the way we are now, we can’t make a difference in the moral degeneration, it takes unity within the Church in our own respective locations and all across America, drawn together as one in Christ. When we do this, then the ACLU and Atheist forces will be pushed back, and America will be changed for the Glory of God.
~ Jeremiah
12. Mark Noonan | December 22nd, 2007 at 4:58 pm
Jeremiah,
It is why I’ll never get into an argument with my brothers and sisters in Christ - we’re under attack from the outside, and this is no time for us to fight each other. Hagee has his ideas and I propose to do nothing other than pray for him, and for all my fellow Christians, that we’ll open up our hearts to guidance from the Holy Spirit as to what Christian truth is. I don’t even mind, particularly, if Huckabee subscribes to Hagee’s views - but if he wants my vote in 2008, he’s going to have to make it clear that no attacks upon any part of the Christian community will be tolerated by him.
13. Mark Noonan | December 22nd, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Jan,
I, too, have written of my problems with Huckabee’s foreign policy. I have less disagreement with Huckabee’s domestic and spending policies than Kudlow - in general, I was prepared to offer my enthusiastic support for him in November (if not in the primaries, where I’m still undecided) until this issue came along. Governor Huckabee - especially if he goes forward tomorrow - is going to have to offer clear explanations as to just what he believes in this area, and how he views the entirety of the Body of Christ, especially those whom he disagrees with within it.
It is not really good for us to have an intramural argument like this, but it is Huckabee’s actions which are bringing it on.
14. Jeremiah | December 22nd, 2007 at 5:13 pm
I don’t even mind, particularly, if Huckabee subscribes to Hagee’s views - but if he wants my vote in 2008, he’s going to have to make it clear that no attacks upon any part of the Christian community will be tolerated by him.
Mark,
I agree, and I sincerely hope that is what Mr. Huckabee will do; and as far as what Mike said about Mitt, I don’t think he was holding any hatred against Mitt for his beliefs.
Honestly, I believe Mr. Huckabee has a good heart. Matter of fact, a lot of the same positions that the President hold, I see in Mike. Although I’m afraid President Bush will be hard to beat on Courage, President Bush is the most fearless Leader I’ve ever seen.
Despite those admirable characteristics, we need somebody like Mike who will stand and fight for the moral situation in America. Somebody that will go and stand up for Christians when the ACLU tries to ruin our God-given traditions, like when the kook, where was it? Out in California I believe, that made some lame excuse about the flag-folding cerimony. We need somebody who will stop that kind of non-sense.
I believe Mike is that person.
God bless!
~ Jeremiah
15. Mark Noonan | December 22nd, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Jeremiah,
I, too, believe that Mike Huckabee is a good man - and I’m not about to think that any error he might make somehow makes me better than him. If I were to start listing my errors just from the past month or so, we’d be here quite a while. There is much in Govenror Huckabee’s resume to commend him to the electorate but, after all, this is why we have primaries - to find out as much as we can about the men and women who seek to be our President.
16. plainjane | December 22nd, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Hucabee’s campaign is saying the reason Limbaugh is coming down so hard on Huckabee is because Limbaugh is part of the Wall Street -Washington Axis. The theory out of the Huckabee camp is Limbaugh is actually rooting for a Clinton win in 08, a Clinton win means more advertising dollars for Limbaugh. It can also be said of Hannity as well in his support of Giuliani, despite Rudy’s pro choice and pro gay marriage views. Hannity has to know a liberal Rudy can’t beat Clinton; again more ad dollars to the 08 anti Hillary Hannity show. Repugs, no morals among them.
17. Eric T | December 22nd, 2007 at 6:56 pm
jane-
Clinton campaign=$91,000,000
Mitt Romney=$63,000,000
Huckabee campaign=$2,000,000
Limbaugh mocks and ridicules the poor and working class, The part of the republican party that he identifies with is the rich investor class. That is not the entire party though, Clinton is that same wealthy investor class but with the Democrat party, and I think he’d vote Clinton before a protectionist like Duncan Hunter. Rush doesn’t sound to fond of Huckabee so what your saying may be right on the money. Rudy won’t beat Clinton, I agree with you on that, jane
18. plainjane | December 22nd, 2007 at 7:55 pm
but if he wants my vote in 2008, he’s going to have to make it clear that no attacks upon any part of the Christian community will be tolerated by him.Mark Noonan | December 22nd, 2007 at 4:58 pm
It is my guess this is how the Shia and Sunni started out about 500 years ago; just a simple difference in opinion; today wholesale slaughter of each other.
19. ThirstyJon | December 23rd, 2007 at 5:06 am
I don’t know much personally about Hagee. I suspect from what I have heard that I disagree with him on the end times. I don’t know what he believes about Catholics either.
I do not agree with the Roman Catholic church on some things. However, I was at a Catholic Wedding once. The priest read part of the ceremony from a book. What he said was excellent. To put it in “evangelical” terms, he preached a straight up Gospel of Jesus message that I could say “amen” to with my whole heart.
My point? If I were running for President (no, unfortunately I am not) I could speak in front of Catholics or Protestants without hesitations.
Many evangelicals disagree with the Catholic Church. That is not the same as hatred.
Ok, enough, I am getting preachy. :-)
ThirstyJon
freedomthirst.com
P.S. The Separatists and Puritans would probably be shocked to hear of Catholics speaking in defense of Freedom! I think there is much less tension between Catholics and Protestants in USA 2007 than in previous history.