43 Comments

• 1. SEW  |  January 5th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

  Bush Derangement Syndrome may well provide Republicans with victory in 08. Thank you W.

• 2. Gozer the Carpathian  |  January 5th, 2008 at 6:14 pm

  *Shrugs*

  I’ll believe in a surge when the votes are counted. Personally I’m perfectly happy if Obama wins. He’s my favorite of the Dems. :)

• 3. sleepygene  |  January 5th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

  How so SEW? Anyhoo the winds of change are a blowing. The establishment and consultant driven candidates Romney and Clinton are struggling. It is good to see the common wisdom being turned on its head a little bit.

• 4. Casper  |  January 5th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

  I know you guys probably don’t care but Mitt Romney won Wyoming as I predicted.

  http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/consolation_prize_romney_cruis.php

• 5. Casper  |  January 5th, 2008 at 7:09 pm

  I do think Obama has the momentum right now, but it’s a little early to count out Clinton or even Edwards at this point. I think Richardson is running a campaign for VP more than for President at this point.

• 6. Leslie Bates  |  January 5th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

  For a moment I thought that Team Clinton would arrange for something like a dead woman or a live man being found in Mr. Obama’s bed, but on the Democratic Party such a move would be wasted.

• 7. ShanghaiRay  |  January 5th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

  Obama can will all the Northern caucuses/primaries he wants. He cannot win the General Election without the South all the way from Virginia on down the eastern seaboard and on over to Texas. If the Dems filed Obama as their candidate, I predict they will suffer a landslide defeat. Like it or not, PC or not, America is just not ready for him. A lot of really dumb Dems will vote for him just because his name is Hussein, they see some sort of sick irony in electing a Hussein and will gloat that Bush kicked a Hussein out…and we voted one in. Don’t underestimate what a lot of people will do in the Dem party just to spite Bush even to the detriment of their own party.

• 8. sleepygene  |  January 5th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

  Ray-

  I assume you think america isn’t ready for a black president, right? Well, Iowa is 95% white and the democrats and some indies there voted Obama a winner by a large margin. I think you misunderestimate the american people. If people don’t vote for him it will be because he is too liberal, not experienced etc… not because he is black. I see you that you are like Bill Bennet and Ann Coulter who can’t say Barack’s name without saying Barack Hussein Obama. Ray maybe you think Barack is a muslim? America isn’t ready for a muslim president, but Barack isn’t one.

• 9. ShanghaiRay  |  January 5th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

  “If people don’t vote for him it will be because he is too liberal, not experienced etc… not because he is black.”

  Hah. That’s just too funny. Having a little dose of naivety today huh? Or did you mean to say some people? It’s not PC, as I stated, but the fact remains the majority of Americans will not vote for Hussein because he is black. I realize we all want to believe America has progressed farther than that, but sadly it just isn’t true. As for me personally, hell yeah I’d vote for a black if he wasn’t a Dem and had some good solid conservative views. You think all those traditional Southern Demos and Reagan republicans will vote for him or all those Hispanics, then you don’t know much about your own country. And FYI, I didn’t say anything about him being Muslim or not. My contention was that some lame Demos would vote for him just to spite Bush and his supporters.

• 10. Casper  |  January 5th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

  ShanghaiRay,
  “I realize we all want to believe America has progressed farther than that, but sadly it just isn’t true.”

  Perhaps you haven’t, but most of the rest of the country has.

  “My contention was that some lame Demos would vote for him just to spite Bush and his supporters.”

  In case you didn’t know, Bush isn’t running. Most people will vote for who they think will be the best president, not to spite someone who isn’t running.

• 11. ShanghaiRay  |  January 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

  Of course I know Bush isn’t running…but if you don’t think the Dems are running against Bush, you are as clueless and clueless can be. And if most Dems would vote for the best person running we wouldn’t have had to put up with the likes of Reid, Pelosi et al. for all these years. I suppose in the dictionary under the word naive is a photo of Casper.

• 12. Casper  |  January 5th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

  ShanghaiRay,
  Actually I think a lot of the democrats are running against some of Bush’s policies, such as the Bush Doctrine.
  As for Reid and Pelosi, I don’t know who they ran against so I couldn’t tell you if the best person won. I don’t assume someone is better or worst because they have a R or D after their name.

  “I suppose in the dictionary under the word naive is a photo of Casper.”

  Actually my picture is under the word perspicacious.

• 13. Casper  |  January 5th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

  So Mark, when are you going to do a post on who wins in NH? So far I’ve picked both Iowa and Wyoming.

• 14. sleepygene  |  January 5th, 2008 at 9:56 pm

  Ray-

  Barry Hussein wouldn’t get the south for sure, but either would Hillary or Edwards. Because they are democrats and democrats haven’t carried much of the south since 76′. Ray you need to get out of the stone age dude.

• 15. Joe  |  January 5th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

  RE:
  6. Leslie Bates | January 5th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

  Leslie, I don’t see many posts from you here, but I have noticed a couple and both have to do with Clinton killing someone. WTF is up with that?
  I’m assuming you are speaking in jest, but if not… you are one disgusting individual.

• 16. Joe  |  January 5th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

  Ray, how about debating on ideas and not on if a candidate is black or white? What is the top Repub was black? Would you think he was ok?
  Maybe you need to stop listening to Rush and Colter. Nobody gives a crap if his middle name is Hussein, John, Jose, or anything else.

• 17. Casper  |  January 5th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  “Nobody gives a crap if his middle name is Hussein, John, Jose, or anything else.”

  I don’t know. I would have a hard time voting for someone with a middle name of Flower of the Sun or Doggy Poop.

  Just kidding.

• 18. Joe  |  January 5th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

  Good point… a middle name of “ShanghaiRay” might be a bit much for me to vote for.

• 19. phnx  |  January 5th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

  Obama is charistmatic, and articulate, long on rhetoric and short on substance. what substance there is goes far to the left. That’s enough to sink him in the general election.

  A large part of Obama’s popularity comes from liberal guilt and their wish to vote for a black to cleanse themselves of their guilt. This guilt is not shared by the general population. He has no chance in the general election.

  The amusing part of the race is that Hillary gets her support from over 50 liberal women…the NAG, burn the bra crowd. Her negatives are coming out and turning off other dems. If Obama wins in NH she is in big trouble.

  If the Clinton friendly media truns against her, she is toast.

• 20. Christian Wright  |  January 6th, 2008 at 1:35 am

  “A large part of Obama’s popularity comes from liberal guilt.”

  Why would liberals feel guilty?

• 21. Faceplant  |  January 6th, 2008 at 5:23 am

  “Obama is charistmatic, and articulate, long on rhetoric and short on substance. what substance there is goes far to the left. That’s enough to sink him in the general election.”

  Yeah, right. The man who publically attacks his own party is a far left liberal. This has become so insanely ridiculous. It’s like every single democrat (no matter what his views) is instanly labled far left just because of the D next to his name. I would love to see what policies Obama has that makes him far liberal!

• 22. FmrMarine  |  January 6th, 2008 at 7:49 am

  Ear bama isnt black, he is a mulatto.

  He has linked him self with the black community.

  He was raised in his early years as a muslem, and now defines him self as a “Christian”, although his church is reported to be a black nationalist, almost a cult….you decide.

  He definitely has marxist views, as do all the rats running.
  With that said i would prefer earbama husein rather than hillery IF the rats were to win.

  Personally im for Fred Thompson.

• 23. Joe  |  January 6th, 2008 at 8:20 am

  Marine,
  Please expand on what you feel are his “marxist views”. Just because you say it (or Rush says it), doesn’t make it true.
  Maybe you just don’t like his ears since you feel you need to bring them up. That is pretty freakin’ shallow.

  With that said i would prefer earbama husein rather than hillery…
  You people are insane. All you care about are his ears and his middle name. Not one of you have debated any issues yet.

• 24. Ricorun  |  January 6th, 2008 at 9:20 am

  I think things look very good for Obama in NH. A couple of very recent polls have him way ahead, others have him at least tied. And Clinton got rather screechy in last night’s debate. That’s not likely to go over well. Also, one poll indicated that the Indies in NH are planning to vote in the Dem primary by 2-1. Something like 40% of NH voters are registered Indie, and that’s likely to help Obama. I think he will win big. And if he does, he’s very likely to win big in SC too.

  I think Shanghai is right in the sense that there are many people who would never vote for him simply because he’s black, or because he has a weird name. But like Shanghai, many of those people wouldn’t vote for him anyway. There are others who, up until now, were reluctant to consider him for those same reasons. But wins in IA and NH — states with small black populations — could change that. He’s surging in SC, especially since IA, primarily because many folks there have started thinking the unthinkable: that being black really isn’t that big an impediment. Sure, it’s a negative, but not an insurmountable one.

  Obama is still way behind Clinton nationally. But if he does indeed win big in NH and SC, I think we’ll see that change. And interestingly, if you look at the national head-to-head match-ups, he’s already doing well against all of the GOP candidates — at least as well as the other Dem candidates. I suspect we’ll see his numbers swell there, too.

  His other negative is lack of experience. Surprisingly though, he still won big in IA only days after Bhutto’s assassination. That was surprising. Even more surprising is the fact that suddenly even the GOP candidates are emphasizing their “change” credentials. The real question there is does change vs. experience have staying power? It’s still a long way to November.

• 25. FmrMarine  |  January 6th, 2008 at 9:35 am

  Let me see obama????
  obama?

  oh yeah the half black one term senator.

  Job = never
  governor = never
  ceo = never
  military = never
  business man = never

  ex muslem = yes
  cult Christian = yes
  marxist IDEAS = yes

  Oh yes definitely presidential material, running on the theme of “CHANGE”
  WTF give me a break.

• 26. neocon  |  January 6th, 2008 at 10:24 am

  When Edwards pulls out, he will endorse Obama and that will be enough to give Obama the nomination.

  So then the Dems will have an evangelical candidate with very little experience, who had suggested that he might invade Pakistan, who is more socially liberal than Hillary, with past drug use and possible corruption issues.

  Good luck with that.

• 27. FmrMarine  |  January 6th, 2008 at 10:44 am

  neocon

  THIS is an evangelical ???
  this is PART of their website

  More of a CULT than evangelical.

  Trinity United Church of Christ

  About Us

  We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

  Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

  1. Commitment to God
  2. Commitment to the Black Community
  3. Commitment to the Black Family
  4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
  5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
  6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
  7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
  8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
  9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
  10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
  11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
  12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

• 28. neocon  |  January 6th, 2008 at 10:51 am

  11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System

  I can’t disagree with you FmrMarine. Shouldn’t America, and the world be concerned that Obama would seek counsel from his church? I mean that is the concern of the uber-liberals in re: to Huckabee, right?

  Well, #11 above should definitely have them concerned. Unless they’re hypocrites.

• 29. FmrMarine  |  January 6th, 2008 at 11:08 am

  Maybe this is why he refused to face the flag and put his hand over his heart.

  He is nothing more than a half black david duke,
  that the media and liberals are falling on their face and worshiping,
  BECAUSE of his color….NOTHING more , he is an empty suit, and a racist.

• 30. sleepygene  |  January 6th, 2008 at 11:37 am

  Project much marine. sheeesh.

• 31. Eric T  |  January 6th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

  Racism is wrong!
  The Libs seem to love it. So let’s talk about it.

  If we are going to allow black racism let’s take a good close look at what it leads to.

  According to the FBI UCR report, about 1,700 White on Black hate crimes, there were nearly 2 million Black on White crimes. Yet, while the statistics for hate crimes receive extensive media coverage, the statistics for interracial crimes are rarely mentioned

  There are 20,000 black-on-white rapes every year in the US, but fewer than 100 white-on-black rapes.

  Editor note: that works out to about 54 black on white rapes per day according to available statistics from 1999.

• 32. Leslie Bates  |  January 6th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

  Joe:

  I would not underestimate what someone who’s core value is power will do to obtain power.

  And I’ve already been called the embodiment of all evil on Earth.

• 33. phnx  |  January 6th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

  “Why would liberals feel guilty?” CW

  Good question. I can’t answer the why, but you libs do.

• 34. jenforcommonsense  |  January 6th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

  Frm Marine and shanghairay are a breathe of fresh air. Only the dems would even attempt to nominate a muslim after all that has happend. When is everyone going to realize these terrorists are not going away and they never will. Their goal is to destroy americans and our way of life. How old is hussein obama– in his thirties, early forties, just about the time that the extreme muslims began waging their war? Did anyone ever consider that he may be a plant and we are dumb enough to take a chance either way? I am not even close to being a racist, bigot, or anyother term you may choose to use, but at some point everyone has to realize for many years to come we are going to praying for the soldiers who have to clean up that mess of a middle east. Our children will be debating the same thing and it is just a fact. God Bless all who love America and if you hate it that much– Get the **** out and go live in the middle east where you have to be worried about a suicide bomber when you are sifting through apples!
  By the way– I hope everyone does realize that the “folks” are not dumb enough for vote for someone because they are black, muslim, a woman or a rich white male!

• 35. Joe  |  January 6th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

  Jeff:
  Only the dems would even attempt to nominate a muslim after all that has happend. When is everyone going to realize these terrorists are not going away and they never will. Their goal is to destroy americans and our way of life. How old is hussein obama…
  I really hope you are trying to be a comedian with that post.
  You DO know that Obama is not a muslim, right?
  You DO know that not ALL muslims are trying to “destroy americans and our way of life”, right?
  You do understand that his first name is not Hussein, right?

  Did anyone ever consider that he may be a plant and we are dumb enough to take a chance either way?
  Are you f-ing kidding me???

  I am not even close to being a racist, bigot, or anyother term you may choose to use…
  No, not at all. Keep telling yourself that and you may actually start to believe it.

  Wow. You are a piece of work.

• 36. Joe  |  January 6th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

  RE post #37. Sorry… that was meant for JEN, not Jeff.

• 37. jenforcommonsense  |  January 7th, 2008 at 7:50 am

  I am well aware of all of this and I have never in my life used the term n*****. I have small children and the fact of the matter is that muslim extremists are trying to hurt all of us. They just encouraged a hit on our president. I want to make sure that my children can go to school without worrying about Extreme muslims hijacking it and that is what I am talking about. And you know what he was a muslim and changed religion and his religions policies aren’t exactly that of bringing everyone together. If he once stated that he understood why America had to stand up for itself and it’s people I would begin to really consider what he had to say. Everyone does not have to agree with how everything played out, but if one cannot admit that the middle east extremists are a problem they are sticking their head in the sand. Also, the bottom line is this– our government, though it may not be perfect, has kept everyone on this soil safe since 9-11 and there should be something said for that. Also, maybe your right– the plant comment is a bit extreme, but so is the democrats blanket statement that bush is equivalent to hitler! I have a lot of pride in America and the chances it gives to all people– if you read the rest of my statement I wouldn’t necessarily vote for the rich white male either. I want to know that their intentions for this country are genuine and they want to keep all of us safe– not just pull the troops out because they have to keep the far left happy.

• 38. jenforcommonsense  |  January 7th, 2008 at 8:19 am

  Oh, one other thing– for the dems out there on a website that links blogs for bush- If Hillary gets nominated she won’t pull the troops out of Iraq– and honestly niether will Obama. I think both of them have enough sense ( unlike the far left, america sucks, people) that they cannot tell the highest ranking military officials that they are wrong–I love how some feel as though they can sit in their living room and decide how our safety will be handled when President Bush relies on people who are experts in their field. President Bush is labeled arrogant and to me that is absurd because he always relies on advisors, the one who is arrogant is the one that says I and only I am right!
  One other thing — I was disappointed that Condoleeza Rice didn’t run for President because that is a woman that would be qualified to run this country. She is in the trenches everyday and worries about the United States of America– not “living in the White House” I would vote for her in a heart beat and so would most republicans. Contrary to how dems like to portray us republicans, we are not racist. How many black or hispanic cabinet members did Bill Clinton have– how many has Bush had?

• 39. Eric T  |  January 7th, 2008 at 9:48 am

  Jen

  You make alot of great points. Libs like Brett will try to tell you that your a racist for not supporting Obama. I hear it all the time at work too. It’s just not the truth Obama is just wrong on most of the issues. We don’t need him in there because he is a lib, his race has nothing to do with it.

• 40. gerryboy  |  January 7th, 2008 at 10:08 am

  This is for Joe. It is so sad that liberals make unwarranted and unjustified accusations about
  people rather than argue the facts. You are always
  calling someone racist, sexist,etc. rather than acknowledge someone may actually hold a different view than you. By the way, I seem to
  remember the Dems SCREAMING about the Dubai
  Ports deal, that they didn’t want a GASP! Muslim
  nation controlling our ports. I seem to remember that they were touting themselves as real
  patriots for shutting down the deal. So let me get this staright… it’s okay for someone to question
  the Dubai deal and not okay for someone to question a presidential candidate with a Muslim name. Stay angry Joe, that’s what makes you liberals so special.

• 41. gerryboy  |  January 8th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

  Brett,
  Indeed, you did refer to Jen as a racist. Furthermore, I don’t really think that someone having pause about supporting a presidential
  candidate with a Muslim name and a rather fuzzy
  religious background is either a crime or immoral.
  We ARE at war with Muslim extremism, by the way.
  It seems that liberals are so concerned with not offending groups of people that they lose sight of the big picture. It is not someone’s fault that they
  may be suspicious of the Muslim religion when it’s
  the policy of a certain sect to wage war on democracy and the west. Remember, I don’t know of too many terrorist attacks plotted in churches and synagogues. Lastly, if the Muslim people are so upset with others’ views, then maybe they should take responsiblity and eradicate the extremist sects themselves. Maybe then there would be much less overall suspicion. Lastly, Brett,
  you must really enjoy using the ” N Word “, you use it an awful lot.

• 42. E Howard Bailey  |  January 13th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

  We need to drop the insane PC and White Guilt in this country for a moment. This is the president of THE UNITED STATES we’re talking about. We need to investigate this man. Google “Freedom’s Enemies, Barack Hussein Obama” by Beckwith.
  Learn the truth..It’s here with links to back it all up.

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