19 Comments

• 1. neocon  |  January 25th, 2008 at 8:15 am

  Bill is becoming more and more embarrasing. And how the Clintons think that a Hillary presidency represents a new start is beyond me.

  That being said, and knowing what a champion of minority causes the Clintons are, why wouldn’t Hillary gracefully bow out of the race and give the nomination to Obama? By stepping aside, and allowing the first serious African-American contender for POTUS to receive the Democratic nomination unopposed, wouldn’t that be a sincere gesture of supporting minority struggles and furthering the cause of unity and equality?

• 2. js  |  January 25th, 2008 at 8:21 am

  A vote for Hillary is a vote for Bill-ary.

  Now all you nice liberals get out and vote!!

  We need an easily defeatable Demoncrat for this election!!

• 3. Joe  |  January 25th, 2008 at 8:22 am

  I can still hold out hope that reasonable Dems get turned off by the Obama-Hillary fight and vote for John Edwards!

• 4. js  |  January 25th, 2008 at 8:22 am

  Is she still drawing a salary from New York while she runs around the country for her own campain for President instead of working for New York citizens that she (is supposed) to represent?

• 5. neocon  |  January 25th, 2008 at 8:27 am

  Yes js, the lawyer from Arkansas who moved to NY and won a senate seat because of her last name is still collecting pay from the people of NY while she runs for POTUS.

• 6. Joe  |  January 25th, 2008 at 8:28 am

  js (comment #4):
  What is your point?

• 7. Joe  |  January 25th, 2008 at 8:34 am

  Are others not still collecing pay while they run for POTUS?
  McCain? Obama? (formerly)Kucinich, (formerly)Hunter, etc etc etc?
  What is the point?

• 8. TiredofLibBullSh**  |  January 25th, 2008 at 9:12 am

  Judicial Watch released new documents last week from the Clinton Presidential Library regarding Hillary’s botched attempt to stage a government takeover of our nation’s healthcare system in 1993. Their investigators found them during a trip to the Clinton Library in Little Rock last year.

  Here are a few highlights from what we found:

  A June 18, 1993, internal Memorandum entitled, “A Critique of Our Plan,” authored by P.S., which makes the startling admission that critics of Hillary’s health care reform plan were correct: “I can think of parallels in wartime, but I have trouble coming up with a precedent in our peacetime history for such broad and centralized control over a sector of the economy…Is the public really ready for this?… none of us knows whether we can make it work well or at all…”

  A “Confidential” May 26, 1993, Memorandum from Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WVA) to Hillary Clinton entitled, “Health Care Reform Communications,” which criticizes the Task Force as a “secret cabal of Washington policy ‘wonks’” that has engaged in “choking off information” from the public regarding health care reform. The memorandum suggests that Hillary Clinton “use classic opposition research” to attack those who were excluded by the Clinton Administration from Task Force deliberations and to “expose lifestyles, tactics and motives of lobbyists” in order to deflect criticism. Senator Rockefeller also suggested news organizations “are anxious and willing to receive guidance [from the Clinton Administration] on how to time and shape their [news] coverage.”

  —TIME AND SHAPE THEIR NEWS COVERAGE??? - so much for an objectionable media - Goebbels would have been proud.

  A February 5, 1993, Draft Memorandum from Alexis Herman and Mike Lux detailing the Office of Public Liaison’s plan for the health care reform campaign. The memorandum suggests building an “interest group data base” detailing whether or not organizations “support(ed) us in the election.” The database would also track personal information about interest group leaders, such as their home phone numbers, addresses, “biographies, analysis of credibility in the media, and known relationships with Congresspeople.”

  IS THIS IN ADDITION TO THEIR 900+ FBI FILES?
  DIDN’T AN AIDE IN THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING ONE, (1), 1! FILE?

  They found these records amongst the approximately 13,000 made publicly available by the Clinton Library, specifically from the White House Health Care Interdepartmental Working Group. The National Archives admits there are an additional 3,022,030 additional textual records, 2,884 pages of electronic records, 1,021 photographs, 3 videotapes and 3 audiotapes related to the Task Force that are currently being withheld indefinitely from the public. Given what they found thus far, can you imagine what else is down there in Little Rock? (On November 2, 2007, they filed a lawsuit to obtain the Task Force records.)

  Unsurprisingly, rather than engaging the American people on the issue of health care reform honestly, the Clintons and their allies attempted to track citizens’ private and political information, smear administration critics, shroud their plan in secrecy, and manipulate news coverage. Some of this was dirty politics; some of it may have run afoul of the law.

  These are the same documents that Bill said were released or are being released. I think they are still releasing Whitewater files, if the pace they set back in 1993-4 is an indication.

  Will anyone ask Hillary about it? NO, they would not be wanting to be labelled an attacker or accused of a “hit job” by Bill. All the while Hillary runs a “positive” campaign.

• 9. js  |  January 25th, 2008 at 9:36 am

  Do you really wonder “why” Clinton went to court to withhold the rest?

• 10. js  |  January 25th, 2008 at 9:37 am

  6. Joe | January 25th, 2008 at 8:28 am
  js (comment #4):
  What is your point?

  Are others not still collecing pay while they run for POTUS?
  McCain? Obama? (formerly)Kucinich, (formerly)Hunter, etc etc etc?
  What is the point?

  ———————

  Because they shouldnt. They are “not” doing the work of the people, so they should “not” be drawing the salary.

• 11. Joe  |  January 25th, 2008 at 10:05 am

  js,
  then why just pick on Clinton? Why not bring up the others?

• 12. js  |  January 25th, 2008 at 10:16 am

  11. Joe

  Because its the topic.

  Cant you read?

• 13. Magnum Serpentine  |  January 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am

  I am rooting for Obama.

  But even though I do not like hillary, I think judicial watch should not be digging up dirt on anyone. And that means ANYONE!!!

  I feel judicial watch has some obsession with derailing hillary. If they would just shut up, hillary will derail herself. She doesn’t need a fundamentalist group to do that, she can derail herself very nicely.

• 14. Retired Spook  |  January 25th, 2008 at 11:33 am

  Unsurprisingly, rather than engaging the American people on the issue of health care reform honestly, the Clintons and their allies attempted to track citizens’ private and political information, smear administration critics, shroud their plan in secrecy, and manipulate news coverage. Some of this was dirty politics; some of it may have run afoul of the law.

  TOLBS, an excellent description of the Clintons’ MO during their entire political career/s.

• 15. Retired Spook  |  January 25th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

  Now this gives a whole new meaning to the term, “The Clinton Brand”.

• 16. Jack DeMaris  |  January 25th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

  I heard on the debate last night that Hillary wants to get us out of Iraq. And I think that’s reason enough to not vote for her.
  Economically, if you have your assets invested properly, you can make a lot of money off this war, as most upper class folks like us do during war time. I have stock in certain companies that do security work there, and basically those companies are getting pay backs from the Bush/Cheney administration for contributions to their campaigns, which come in the form of hefty government contracts. I’ve received for my clients’ investments in these companies, as well as my own, returns of 22 to 26% over the past two years. I think if anyone of us had the opportunity to make that kind of money on a war, we would find that it’s worth the few thousand lives that are sacrificed.
  So stopping this war is the last thing we should want to see, as we can all make a lot of money off of it. As long as we dress up the reasons for the war in terms of patriotism or civic duty, we can keep it going and keep our investments humming along nicely. And as long as there’s no draft, our upper class kids - - the real future of our country - - aren’t put in harm’s way.

• 17. Sunny  |  January 25th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

  So much on this blog about Hillary and Bill Clinton; so little about the economy. Someone is very obsessed with the Clintons.

• 18. Dasein Libsbane  |  January 25th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

  The problem with being a liar and a buffoon “Jack DeMaris” is that you’re so easily exposed.

  Care to list those “companies that do security work there”?

  Companies like Blackwater (owned by Prince Group LLC? Or maybe Haliburton (HAL) trading at 33 today (a 2.22% increase over last year)?

  Maybe you’re taliking about the Security Companies that actually do business in Iraq; AD Consultancy, AKE Limited, ArmorGroup, Control Risks Group, Custer Battles, Diligence Middle East, Edinburgh Risk and Security Management, Erinys Iraq Limited, Genric, Global Risk Strategies, Group 4 Falck A/S, Hill and Associates, Ltd., ICP Group Ltd, ISI, Meteoric Tactical Solutions, Meteoric Tactical Solutions, Olive Security (UK) Limited, Optimal Solution Services, verseas Security & Strategic Information, Inc/Safenet - Iraq, RamOPS Risk Management Group, Sabre International Security Ltd, Sumer International Security, Triple Canopy Inc., Wade-Boyd and Associates LLC? None of which have government contracts and very few are publicly traded.

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