Romney vs. McCain in Florida
January 29th, 2008 at 06:14pm Matt Margolis
Exit polls via Drudge:
McCain 34.3%, Romney 32.6%, Giuliani 15.3%, Huckabee 12%…
It looks to be a squeaker between McCain and Romney… Things don’t look good for Giuliani, who pretty much banked his whole candidacy on Florida.
UPDATE: Hillary “wins” Democrat primary… shares stage with corrupt impeached judge Alcee Hastings…
UPDATE: McCain wins… Rudy appears about to dropout and endorse McCain.
UPDATE, by Mark Noonan: Listening to McCain’s speech…excellent words towards Romney, grabbing the mantle of Reagan.
UPDATE, by Mark Noonan: Very high voter turnout. By my calculation, about 3.6 million ballots were cast as compared to about 1.6 million in 2000. GOP turnout exceeded Democrat by more than 190,000. Some have said the GOP isn’t energised - yeah, right.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Republicans


44 Comments
1. Retired Spook | January 29th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
It’s entirely possible that each party may be down to 2 candidates after tonight. Thirty days ago I wouldn’t have thought that possible. Now the fun begins
2. Doug | January 29th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
This will be interesting to compare the exit polls with the actual in Florida. The exit polls likely just polled the people who didn’t vote absentee so they might be off in the wrong direction, at least a little, for Rudy and McCain.
3. Doug | January 29th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Spook,
Huckabee will stay in through super tuesday, he has a few states in there he could win.
4. StopJohnLiberalMcCain | January 29th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
What a choice. A programmed cyborg who listens to his masters in Salt Lake City or an angry old man who bashes the war in Iraq, wants the invading hordes to get a free pass, hates the tax cuts that have made our nation the beacon to the world and stomps on free speech.
We choose either one of these goons, and it is ‘96 all over again with Dole/Kemp.
5. Doug | January 29th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
While I completely agree with the tax cuts, they have help lead to a weakening of the dollar, so I don’t think I would say the Bush tax cuts (having not been accompanied by reduced spending) have made our nation “the beacon to the world”…more like the money tree of the world, where China, et. al, can have pick of the fruits.
I’m all giddy awaiting for Feb. 20th, can’t wait to see how much Romney has spent from his own pocket this month.
6. Brian | January 29th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
McCain “bashed the war in Iraq”?
Of all the charges you could lob against McCain, that one would be furthest from the truth. McCain was the surge’s staunchest supporter (next to Bush).
Really, it doesn’t take a genious to figure out that the surge’s success is what revitalized McCain’s campaign.
7. Rich | January 29th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Don’t pay any attention to the spoofer. He’s just a dem plant from the Clinton camp.
8. neocon | January 29th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
First of all, post # 4 is from someone who hasn’t the faintest concept of reality and probably finds it amusing to parrot what they read elsewhere. That’s what passes for liberal intellect these days. Scary.
The unknown here so far are the absentee ballots which could total a third of the vote already tallied. Expectations are that Romney will win the absentee vote. Here’s hoping so.
9. Rich | January 29th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Good luck to the Romney supporters! I think McCain might get it in a squeeker but what do I know.
10. neocon | January 29th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
As I sit here and watch Hillary speak, I can’t help but think that if I have to listen to that for eight years I going to need a lot of prozac. No wonder Bill cheated.
GO ROMNEY!
11. Brian | January 29th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Fox calls Florida for McCain.
How embarrassing for Romney. When will he learn that you can’t throw absurd amounts of money at a state and expect to win?
12. Rich | January 29th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Uggh- Romney is doing his “they haven’t” speech. How annoying.
13. Brian | January 29th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
I’m seriously not looking forward to seeing Hannity tonight.
I can just hear him now: “But….but…..McCain-Fiengold!”
On that note, somebody put Rush on suicide watch.
14. NeoClown | January 29th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
I can’t believe how many more votes Hillary got today then any of the republicans. I am so impressed with the Clintons. Hillary becoming president will be a double win for democrats. Every vote for Hillary is a vote repudiating the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton. Every vote for Hillary is a vote condemning the Bush administration and its policies.
I’m off to donate some more cash to Hillary’s campaign. She’ll need it for Tuesday. God It’s a great day to be a democrat, and a great day for the country!
15. NeoClown | January 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Brian,
Do you really think El Rushbo might actually commit suicide? Don’t tease me.
16. Mark Noonan | January 29th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
NeoClown,
But, so far, more GOP votes than Democrat…
17. Rich | January 29th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Hey how many delegates did Clinton get tonight? The same amount as Mike Gravel- 0. Hillary with 51% in a state where they didn’t campaign? Weak sauce. Her name recognition got her that much. Welcome to a McCain candidacy vs. a brokered dem convention, followed by blacks leaving Clinton at the altar. Also, lame speech by Romney. I did not know that Asia was a country until tonight. Uggh.
18. neocon | January 29th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
First of all Clown, Hillary would lose to McCain in the general. Secondly your post reeks of a creepy sycophant that the secret service should keep a close eye on.
Hillary should be very afraid of someone as maniacally supportive as you are.
How many skirts do you own?
19. Brian | January 29th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Uh oh, here we go…..Hannity has already begun the not-so-subtle attack on McCain…..
20. neocon | January 29th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Hannity is simply pointing out McCains egregious missteps in the past. Strictly issue based.
Issues are fair game to criticize right Brian? Or should we just gloss over someones record?
21. Jeremiah | January 29th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Giuliani just jumped ship…Endorsing McCain.
–Jeremiah–
22. neocon | January 29th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
The unknown now is where will Huckabee supporters go.
23. Brian | January 29th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
neocon,
All Hannity is doing is repeating Romney’s “same people, different chairs” line over and over again and actually trying to use that as a negative against McCain. I see no issues debate here.
On another interesting topic, according to the CNN exit polls, the plurality of voters, 45%, though the economy was the most important issue?
Who did they vote for? John McCain, 40% to 32%. Ouch. The economy is Mitt’s big selling point, and he didn’t even win the plurality of the economy voters.
24. neocon | January 29th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
It was a loss for Romney tonight no question. He is by no means though done.
Hannity criticized McCain on his CFR, Gang of 14, and Amnesty bill, all very legitimate issues to be slapped around on from a conservative POV.
You simply hear what you want to hear. And honestly, do you really think Clinton or McCain will fix Washington?
They’re both career politicians and ultimate insiders. Exactly what this country doesn’t need.
25. awesomecoolderek | January 29th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
NeoClown-
Are you confused… I’m STILL watching the totals come in, and the FIVE (hence, more division for votes) Republicans on the ballot still add up to more total votes than the three Democrats totals. It’s basic math. Math.
26. Ricorun | January 29th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Neoclown: I can’t believe how many more votes Hillary got today then any of the republicans. I am so impressed with the Clintons. Hillary becoming president will be a double win for democrats. Every vote for Hillary is a vote repudiating the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton. Every vote for Hillary is a vote condemning the Bush administration and its policies.
On the one hand, NC, I appreciate your continued attempts at satire. In fact, I think you’re pretty good at it. Some of your comments make me laugh. But this one, despite all my attempts to approach it from every level I can think of, makes me puke in my mouth a little.
27. phnx | January 29th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Interesting notes to the Hillary win in Florida:
1. Exit polling indicates that the late deciders were equally split between Hillary and Obama. (not a good sign for her)
2. Hillary is taking heat from Dems, including Kerry, for violating the agreement of the Dem candidates not to campaign in Florida and Michigan because the FL Dems changed the election date without the permission of the DNC.
3. Hillary originally supported the idea of stripping Florida and Michigan of their delegates. She is now lobbying the DNC to re-instate them.
Can you say shameless power hungry hypocrite?
28. Ricorun | January 29th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Holy poop! McCain won?!! Can I say holy poop? What I really want to say is… Holy crap! McCain won?!! In Florida?!! Wow, that certainly puts another monkey wrench in the works. And Giuliani is endorsing him? Can the works handle the weight of the monkey wrenches applied upon it?
29. phnx | January 29th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
BTW Doug,
Tax cuts didn’t weaken the dollar, they stregthened the economy and took us out of the Clinton recession.
Out of control federal spending weakend the dollar and that coupled with irresponsible lending practises led to our current financial problems.
30. liberalT | January 29th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
I thought McCain’s speech was interesting. Of course I have fundamental with his hawkish views on Iraq and Iran but to his credit he believes
(1) in Amnesty for Illegal Aliens
(2) that waterboarding is torture and that we should never do it
(3) San Francisco Chronicle (8/20/99) McCain sided with the pro-abortion camp, suggesting that overturning Roe v. Wade would lead to illegal abortions.
(4)in 2005 McCain opposed a federal gay-marriage ban (Los Angeles Times, 1/25/ and 3/8
for whatever reason he seems to think that the primary function of government is national security and further that somehow offering social programs is *forcing* them - which it is of course *not*. Does offering someone a hot lunch mean that they are forcing you to eat it?Odd ..
But needless to say - even if he wins he is leauges above Bush..
31. bagni | January 29th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
mark-cain
the aliens keep sayin’ it
you ignore or won’t post it
but we’ll all be voting for mccain in nov
that includes you, neo and rico
32. GOP4ME | January 29th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
I am NOT a huge McCain fan but given him versus jug ears or Billary?
I’d pull the lever for McShamnesty quicker than NeoClown can spew Bush Lied, People Died…
33. Doug | January 30th, 2008 at 12:05 am
phnx,
I agree the tax cuts were fabulous for the economy, I did say that they coupled with the spending weakened the dollar. You agree with the last part, you should agree with the first, it was the strengthening of the economy that really picked up the trade deficit that pretty much weakened our dollar.
Still, I’d take that side of it over McCain’s deficit hawk any day, but both have their advantages.
34. Kahn | January 30th, 2008 at 12:05 am
I thought Hillary’s win didn’t mean anything (i.e., no delegates) because Florida wasn’t going to be allowed to vote at the convention. Just like D.C.
Am I wrong there?
By the way - if that was true. I’d just leave the Democrat off the November ballot all together. Same for the Republicans if they tried it.
35. Mark Noonan | January 30th, 2008 at 12:08 am
GOP4ME,
McCain also isn’t my favorite candidate, but he’s miles ahead of Obama and Hillary…also, I think some of my fellow conservatives have worked themselves up a bit too much over McCain - I figure Rush is going to blow a gasket tomorrow, but everyone does need to calm down.
McCain does have a lot of conservatism in him, and we can work with that - and we can oppose any McCainiac attempts to gain good press by surrendering to liberals in Congress. We can, as it were, keep him on the straight and narrow.
36. Mark Noonan | January 30th, 2008 at 12:10 am
bagni,
As I’ve said - Thompson was first choice, Romney was second…it looks like, indeed, I’ll be enthusiastically supporting McCain in November…though Romney isn’t entirely out of the running just yet.
37. phnx | January 30th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Sorry Doug, I understand your trade balance argument. Yes that was a contributing factor. However there was a negative trade balance even during the recession. But the trade balance pales in comparison with the debt and the deficit.
Fiscal discipline in Washington will restore increase the strength of the dollar. The money markets respond to the willingness of a government to take the necessary steps to restore the value of the currency.
38. Doug | January 30th, 2008 at 2:45 am
Kahn,
Do you know what would be the best of both worlds? Obama and Hillary fighting it out to the end with Hillary needing the few hundred delegates in Michigan and Florida, then winning the convention battle to seat them, only to have Obama take it to court and after a couple week’s in the court system, both are so hated by the people that Republicans are swept into power.
I fully expect when it comes down to the end, Hillary gets those delegates seated if that is what she needs to win. It would be grossly unfair, but it would likely happen.
39. coulterfan | January 30th, 2008 at 7:14 am
>>GOP turnout exceeded Democrat by more than 190,000. Some have said the GOP isn’t energised - yeah, right.
Ummm, you DO realize that the Dems were not allowed to campaign or spend any money in FL, don’t you Mark?!?!? In contrast, HOW much money and time did the GOP spend in FL???
So, if you’re citing as ‘evidence’ that the GOP were energized the fact that GOP turnout exceeded Dem turnout by 190,000, you must also point out this:
The Dems contest DID NOT count, there were NOT ALLOWED to campaign or spend money in the state. Yet over 1.6 million Dems voted in a primary which awarded no delegates.
So, are you suggesting that if the same rules had applied to the GOP primary (that they had not campaigned, had not spent any money in the state, and the delegates were not seated) that the turnout would have still exceeded the Dem turnout (over 1.6 million)?
Remember that FL was ‘make or break’ for the GOP candidates and they spent TONS of money and time in the state. But their turnout BARELY exceeded the Dem turnout despite the aformentioned reasons there was NO democratic contest.
40. Brian | January 30th, 2008 at 7:17 am
Correction: Only Romney spent TONS of money in the state.
41. Rana Quijotesca | January 30th, 2008 at 7:38 am
A note about Alcee Hastings…
He was acquitted by a jury, and then impeached by a political body… Not quite as black and white as you imply…
42. navydad | January 30th, 2008 at 9:31 am
That’s weak Rana….really.
Rico,
That isn’t puke! It’s LiberalT’s continual regurgitation of leftist talking points topped off with a dose of BDS.
We should increase the voting age to 45, this way the uninformed/uneducated would be forced to research each candidate’s past performances, or in the Clintons’ case, the lack thereof.
43. StopJohnLiberalMcCain | January 30th, 2008 at 10:48 am
• “McCain “bashed the war in Iraq”?
Of all the charges you could lob against McCain, that one would be furthest from the truth. McCain was the surge’s staunchest supporter (next to Bush).
Really, it doesn’t take a genious (sic) to figure out that the surge’s success is what revitalized McCain’s campaign.”
Funny how you groveling McCain backers forget how he bashed Rumsfeld over the head day after day about his conduct of the war and finally forced him to quit.
McCain was always on Rumsfeld’s ass about too few troops, too little armor. He seems to forget it was Rumsfeld’s plan that crushed the Saddam regime in mere weeks. He slammed Rumsfeld as bad as any of Dems did and now you reward this traitor with the nomination?
Recall how he blasted the leadership who were doing their best at Walter Reed for our brave wounded heros? Some water stains? A little Comet scrubber needed here and there. Hell, you would have thought our troops were in the Dante’s Inferno to hear the horror stories. It was all blown up hype. But then McCain just threw their asses under the bus so he could score points against Rumsfeld. Hell yes JohnLiberalMcCain bashed the war in Iraq, he bashed it all the way until the surge was announced. Before that he was trashing the conduct of the war night and day as bad as any DemCommie.
Wake up!
44. phnx | January 30th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Rana,
While technically accurate you are completely wrong. I was living in so. Fl at the time. He was clearly guilty and the evidence showed it. This was a decision by blacks to acquit in the face of overwhelming evidence against him, because of the color of his skin.
I will never forget one quote in the newspaper from one of his constituents:
“Alcee may be a crook…but he’s OUR crook.”