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• 1. Presidential election 200&hellip  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 3:36 pm

  [...] For Victo(R)y in November February 2nd, 2008 Stefan Borst-Censullo wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptI don’t have to tell you how [...]

• 2. Jack DeMaris  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 4:34 pm

  You’re right on the money, Matt. I think anyone who supports the democrats’ “cut and run” Iraq policy should be deported for treason. It’s not so much that I think staying there for the next 100 years, as McCain is smartly advocating, will make us any stronger. It’s that the beneficial effects of the war are so overwhelming for the upper class, which I assume includes most of us posters, that it would be economic suicide to get out of Iraq.
  Economic theory is, as I’ve tried to explain in past posts, essentially a balance test, measuring assets against debits. The assets of the war in this case are the corollary benefits that flow from it, such as Republicans in office who keep our tax rates down and who, if you’ve invested in companies like Exxon, make you rich. The debits are, quite obviously, the lives that are lost in Iraq, roughly 3500 or so up to this point in time (although I would make the argument that only 300 or so died during “the war,” which should be defined as the period between the invasion and President Bush’s declaration of victory, at which point “the war” ended. Since then, all lives lost have been in a “post war” or “peace keeping” time period. Viewed thusly, this has been the most successful war in US history, as judged by “lives lost during wartime”). And I think everyone would agree that the 3500 lower class and minority lives lost do not outweigh the benefits that accrued to all of us (meaning those who make a decent amount of money and don’t have to sacrifice their kids).
  I think either Clinton or Obama would reverse the equation, and view American lives as being worth more than the money we’re all making off the war, and that, my friends (as John McCain would say) would be a true disaster.
  Hey, has anyone noticed what a hot wife John McCain has? I like the fact that, unlike these democratic candidates who are still on their first spouses, John’s the type of guy that when his first wife turned distasteful to him, he dumped her like a real man and got a hot babe to replace her. Good for him!

• 3. Barack Obama » Pled&hellip  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 4:38 pm

  [...] Prenons la parole wrote an interesting post today on Pledge For Victo(R)y in NovemberHere’s a quick excerptI don’t have to tell you how devastating it would be to our country if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama becomes president, so I’m asking… [...]

• 4. Brian G.  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 4:46 pm

  I won’t take this pledge. I’ve spent the early years of my life as a diehard Republican. I learned the value of moderation and openmindedness the hard way. Now, I refuse to be held down by a partisan pledge.

  I will vote for the candidate, Republican or Democrat, who I believe will better serve this country as a whole. I refuse to pledge my allegiance to a party that has so disappointed me in the last few months.

  Should a Republican turn out to be the better person for the job, then they’ll have my vote with no regrets on my part. The same goes for the Democrat.

  President Reagan once said that he “considered all proposals for government action with an open mind before voting ‘no’.”

  We all ought to do the same.

• 5. searp  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 4:48 pm

  Um, Matt, that page has something about stopping Hillary. What if we like Barack? I am confused.

• 6. Jeremiah  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 5:01 pm

  searp,

  There is a Stop Osama link in the upper right hand corner of your screen at the pledge site.

  –Jeremiah–

• 7. searp  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 5:10 pm

  Jeremiah, thanks, it was the big scary picture of Hillary that threw me off. Will revisit

• 8. Hillary Clinton » P&hellip  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 5:15 pm

  [...] neo-neocon wrote an interesting post today on Pledge For Victo(R)y in NovemberHere’s a quick excerptI don’t have to tell you how devastating it would be to our country if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama becomes president, so I’m asking… [...]

• 9. StopJohnLiberalMcCain  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 5:27 pm

  Pledge to support the man who would close Gitmo, move the terrorists to Kansas and give them govt. lawyers?

  No.

  Pledge to support McCain-Fiengold and its stranglehold on free speech?

  No.

  Pledge to support the man who bashed a hero like Rumsfeld at every turn as he was fighting the terrorists in Iraq?

  No.

  Pledge to support the buddy of Ted Kennedy and his wide open border friends?

  No.

  Pledge to support a man who has a former member of the Mexican president’s cabinet on his staff whispering open border crap into McLame’s old ass ears?

  No.

  Pledge to support the man who thought about running with Kerry in 2004?

  No.

  All who pledge support to McAmnesty do great harm to the Republic.

• 10. Jeremiah  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 5:32 pm

  Hillary & Obama belong to the cult of Liberalism, also known as - M.A.D - the Mutual Assured Destruction of America.

  –Jeremiah–

• 11. Casper  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 5:48 pm

  At this point I’m not ready to commit to a candidate. My choice would be Obama first, Romney second, McCain third, and Clinton last. IMO, the good news is that all four are better choices than we had the last two presidential elections.

• 12. LiberalMind  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 6:27 pm

  This country needs to get back to its progressive roots and elect a leader like Barack or Hillary.

  At stake is the supreme court which of late has been stacked with right-wing ideologues who want to turn back the clock on the liberal agenda that this nation truly supports.

  We do not need a small fringe inflicting more “conservative” policies that have so damaged this nation. The last eight years should be evidence enough that “conservatism” is a destructive institution that needs to be routed out of American politics.

  It will be in 2008 as it was repudiated in 1964.

  Modern day Republicans have masked their true agenda and concealed their ugly hand which has allowed a resurgence at the ballot box. It is short lived.

  The naked hand of imperialism, corporatism and elitism is on full display now, no longer hidden under the banner of “compassionate” conservatism. There is nothing compassionate about it.

  Conservatism is an ugly thing, a monster that devours the middle class, destroys the common good and saps our national strength for the sole benefit of a few.

  Stand against this and stand for America, the liberal and free nation.

• 13. JD  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 6:49 pm

  Can’t do that if McCain or Romney get the nod to represent the GOP. I don’t like either one of them, especially after Wednesday night’s circus.

• 14. Canadian Observer  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 6:54 pm

  2. Jack DeMaris | February 2nd, 2008 at 4:34 pm

  Thanks, Jack. Humorous and at the same time, so sadly true.

• 15. Almiranta  |  February 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 pm

  Nope. If the GOP nominates McCain I will support individual candidates for the House and Senate because we will need a strong conservative presence more than ever to try to rein in McCain’s overweening vanity, his pandering to popularity by sucking up to the opposition just to get his name on some bills without regard for their constitutionality or intelligence, his vile and explosive temper, and his appalling judgment.

  Funny how the Canadian Observer falls in line with DeMaris’s racism and classism. Oh, and his ignorance, and/or willingess to simply lie to make a radical Left point. Because we all know that the military of the first decade of the 21st century is the most well-educated in history, with the highest number of college graduates. It is a favorite canard of the tried-and-true Lefty that the military is where the poor and disadvantaged are sent to fight and die for the elites, but it is bull, it always has been, and Jack surely knows this. He writes like someone capable of reading and processing information, so he can’t plead stupidity. I have a strong feeling he knows perfectly well he lies, but like most Lefties he feels he is justified because he is furthering the Cause.

  The Liberal “Mind” strikes again, delving into her evidently bottomless pit of goofiness, insanity, untruths, and the other stuff of radical Leftism.

  Note that she is still referring to the most regressive of poltiical theories as PROgressive. Unfortunately for her, she simply does not have the capacity to fully grasp the Socialist polemic, which leads to nonsensical regurgitations such as “..concealed their ugly hand which has allowed a resurgence at the ballot box…” ????????????????????????????

  I can just see her, standing on her little soap box, earnestly waving her little red flag, so proud of the red star on her beret, declaiming “Conservatism is an ugly thing, a monster that devours the middle class, destroys the common good and saps our national strength for the sole benefit of a few.”

  Sorry, mindless. Wrong century, wrong continent, wrong country. You are obviously reading from the little red book, but you are soooooo far behind. But I love ya…you, and those of your ilk, will do more to drive rational Democrats to the right than any campaign speech, any platform, ever could.

  “Cause you are one scary little Red zealot.
  …………………………..

  Anyone notice how this site is now getting the pros to declaim, quoting extensively from the Socialist screeds? You guys must be doing something right, Matt and Mark, to attract the attention you are getting from a level just above the Ranty Rhodes wannabes.

• 16. Bill Glover  |  February 3rd, 2008 at 10:38 am

  I’ll support the nominee but if it’s McCain I won’t like it. He is Socialism Lite as someone else mentioned and I think if he wins he’ll immediately forget anything he told us to try to win over conservatives and keep working with the likes of Ted Kennedy. I’m sick at his mention of Ronald Reagan. I remember and have read much about Ronald Reagan and, as they say, McCain “ain’t no Ronald Reagan”.

• 17. Bruce  |  February 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm

  I have a pledge: I will not vote for McCain.

  I will join you and vote for any other Republican candidate (aside from Paul.)

  So when you hit the levers on Tuesday remember that if you select McCain you are choosing to eliminate my support.

  I won’t vote for the so-called Republican candidate endorsed by the LAT and the NYT.

  I recommend Romney. But I could hold my nose for any other candidate. However I will not vote for McCain (or Paul.)

  I am sorry if that is a problem for you but if it is really a problem and you just MUST win in November then you can choose some one I can support. Like Romney.

• 18. plainjane  |  February 3rd, 2008 at 1:31 pm

  “I pledge my support for Hillary….” Republican spokesman Ann Coulter

• 19. coulterfan  |  February 3rd, 2008 at 2:09 pm

  >>Do you want Hillary or Obama nominating the next one or two Supreme Court justices? Do you want Hillary or Obama as commander-in-chief?

  OH YES I DO! Specifically, I want Obama to be our next President- he will be a great President who will make our entire nation proud again. Though Hillary would also be a good President, I fear there is too much irrational hatred of her on the right.

  Obviously, I am not alone. I was with 20,000 Obama supporters at the Target Center in Minneapolis yesterday. That same day he also had rallies in St. Louis and Boise- over 50,000 people saw him!!! Meanwhile, Romney was visiting some office complex in Edina, MN where “hundreds” of supporters saw him.

  It’s no wonder why the energy is on our side. Both Romney and McCain have promised more of the same- they and their supporters think the country is headed in the right direction and that, if anything, we need even MORE military engagements (100 more years in Iraq!), MORE tax cuts (bankrupting our nation- soon the Saudis and the Chinese will OWN our economy if the Republicans have their way), LESS regulation (who cares what’s in our food and our childrens’ toys?), etc. Fortunately, they are in the vast minority- more and more people are waking up every day!

  Obama will be a fantastic, unifying President! He has the ability to set aside the vicious partisanship of the Clinton and Bush eras and move our country forward instead of backwards. This is a defining moment in history, not unlike the civil rights movement, and you can either be a voice to change our country for the better, or a person who stubbornly clings to the past and the status quo.

  The choice is very clear- do you want more of the same economic and foreign policies, or do you want to be part of the future?