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Open Thread: Super Tuesday A Conservative Supports John McCain, Fellow Conservative

Super Tuesday Results

February 5th, 2008 at 07:17pm Mark Noonan

Here we’ll list who won:

Huckabee wins West Virginia.

Obama wins Georgia; UPDATE - appears to be an amazingly crushing victory for Obama, too.

Romney: Massachusetts, North Dakota, Utah, Montana, Colorado, Minnesota

McCain: Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, New York, California, Missouri, Arizona, Oklahoma,

Huckabee: West Virginia, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee

Hillary: Oklahoma, Tennessee, Arkansas, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Arizona, California

Obama: Georgia, Alabama, Illinois, Delaware, Alaska, Idaho, Colorado, Missouri, Connecticut, Utah, Kansas, Minnesota, Delaware

UPDATE: New Jersey too close to call on the Democrat side - potentially very bad news for Hillary; if Obama wins this State, then there will start to be a strong argument that Hillary should back out and leave the field clear for Obama, especially if McCain wraps it up on the GOP side tonight.

UPDATE: Hillary’s win in Massachusetts with most of the political establishment going for Obama is quite a feather in her cap…

UPDATE: Bad news for McCain? Arizona not immediately called for him…

UPDATE, by Matt Margolis: Barack Obama just spoke… Man… he does a lot of talking without really saying anything. So many people fooled by his warm and fuzzy rhetoric.

UPDATE, by Matt Margolis: Hillary and McCain win in California.

UPDATE, by Mark Noonan: Delegate count;

Hillary: 656 (Ed. Note: Wonder if she’ll win ten more tonight?)

Obama: 559

McCain: 522

Romney: 223

Huckabee: 142

Turnout: Reports I’ve read indicate Democrats turned out 2 to 1 over GOPers in these primaries. Part of that is a function of where the voting took place - New York, New Jersey, Illinois, California, Massachusetts; all large population States with heavy Democratic registration, but still has to put the GOP on notice that the base needs to be energised - the best way to do this is with a dynamic “Contract with America” sort of campaign message for the fall.

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38 Comments

  • 1. liberalT  |  February 5th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    One thing is clear - the Bush administration has destroyed the ‘conservative’ revolution. Even the lead Republican is close to an independent. Lets hear it for Liberalism. Lets hear it for populism. Lets here it for Republican defeat in November

  • 2. Mark Noonan  |  February 5th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    liberalT,

    You might want to pay attention to what is happening rather than what Daily Kos tells you is happening - the argument in the GOP is who is the better conservative to lead the GOP to victory in November…

  • 3. LiberalMind  |  February 5th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    Ed. Note - for crying out loud, talk about how the Democrats and Republicans are doing tonight, on Super Tuesday…no more speeches more appropriate for November…

  • 4. liberalT  |  February 5th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    i stand by my statement. I am willing to put money on a Democratic win in November - how about you.

  • 5. Mark Noonan  |  February 5th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    LiberalT,

    That is like betting on who’s going to win the Superbowl at the start of pre-season. You’re guessing - you believe in your guess, and your guess might be right, but I’m too old a bunny to lay money on a guess. Come back to me in June and ask me if I’m willing to bet.

    Meanwhile, what about tonight…don’t you have anything to say, on your own, about what is happening tonight?

  • 6. Hitlery Osama  |  February 5th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    A McCain/Huckabee ticket is starting to look a lot more plausible.

  • 7. Jo  |  February 5th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Considering the polls JUST closed in AL, how can they gave it to Huckabee?

  • 8. liberalT  |  February 5th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    Deleted - insults the author. No need for that. Its a fun, political day for junkies to discuss prospects…you want to hate, then go comment at DailyKos.

  • 9. George  |  February 5th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Looking at the polls numbers, it seems the much anticapted “conservative backlash” is occuring……..but it’s against Romney.

    Wonderful irony.

  • 10. Jeremiah  |  February 5th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    I project…

    John McCain takes the GOP.

    Hillary Clinton takes the Liberal.

    I project November will be a GOP landslide, with McCain as our 44th President.

    –Jeremiah–

  • 11. sleepygene  |  February 5th, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Stick a fork in Mittens, he is done. A McCain nomination might lead Rush to run for the oxy. Dittoheads be on the lookout for a rotund man pestering cleaning ladies for pills.

  • 12. phnx  |  February 5th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    You would think that Arizona would be a landslide for McCain. But its interesting how poorly McCain is doing in his own state, especially among those who oppose amnesty for illegals. He may still win the state but barely.

    Do they know something that the rest of the country doesn’t?

  • 13. George  |  February 5th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    phnx,

    Obviously, it’s because Arizona is a border state, so illegal immigration is a huge issue. Romney has been polling better among people who view immigration as the number one issue, regardless of state.

  • 14. Kahn  |  February 5th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    sleepygene, good. Disproven allegations. Political character assassination of a commentator by a local prosecutor. Good. Thanks.

    You know he makes $20 million a year, right? What an idiot he must be.

  • 15. Christian Wright  |  February 5th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    Deleted - insults the heroism of John McCain.

  • 16. Huckaboom 2.0  |  February 5th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Huckabee has the best line of the night:

    “Some people say that it’s a two man race. They’re right - and we’re in it.”

    Don’t worry, Romney, maybe you can win it if you sink another $35 million dollars of your own money…….

  • 17. Kahn  |  February 5th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Trying to figure out these states. Some are winner take all. Some are not. Who’s winning by delegate count?

  • 18. George  |  February 5th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Kahn,

    According to the ticker on Fox News, McCain is far ahead with 300 delegates. Romney has 93 and Huckabee has 82.

  • 19. NeoClown  |  February 5th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Hillary’s got her mojo workin’.

  • 20. Capt.X-RAY  |  February 5th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Jeremiah,

    Back when the dems won the majority, you tucked your tail, and gave us this big sorry, whiny, poor poor me speech and said you would disappear.

    Remember?

    I can’t wait for a repeat performance.

  • 21. Jeremiah  |  February 5th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Capt.X-RAY,

    Yes. I remember. :)

    I wasn’t feelin’ good then. Almost kicked the bucket. So I wasn’t up to speed, and you wouldn’t be either if you were that sick.

    Anyway, you never know how these things are going to turn out. However, I predict that if indeed Hillary gets it, she will be ripped to shreds by whoever the GOP nominee is. I hope Huck can get his numbers on up there, but it looks like McCain has too much of the upper-hand, with 320 some delegates, and Huck at 141. Missouri is coming in.

    If the people want Hillary for President, and she gets it, you can bet on me fighting with every breath. .

    –Jeremiah–

  • 22. Kahn  |  February 5th, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    And what was you moniker back then “Capt. X-Ray”?

    By the way, glad to see the Congress has gotten us out of Iraq, stopped crazy spending, and let sunshine into the Capital Building. Not, Not, Not.

    Are you proud of your performance so far? How about6 the General Betayus SNAFU? Turns out he was telling the truth.

  • 23. NeoClown  |  February 6th, 2008 at 12:07 am

    Deleted - insult to the magnificent men and women of the United States armed forces.

  • 24. Jeremiah  |  February 6th, 2008 at 12:15 am

    I noticed on the top issues, the consensus shows that the people are more concerned about the economy and immigration, which are by and large Liberal issues.

    On neither side, life was not an issue.

    She’s not lookin’ good.

    –Jeremiah–

  • 25. Rich  |  February 6th, 2008 at 12:16 am

    Stick a fork in Romney. For being such an economic whiz he sure pissed away a lot of money.

  • 26. Magnum Serpentine  |  February 6th, 2008 at 12:38 am

    I hope John McCain realizes that there are far better people out there than huck for Vice President.

    huck should drop out of the race.

  • 27. Doug  |  February 6th, 2008 at 1:46 am

    A vote for Romney is a vote for McCain! Looks like a few thousand votes from Romney to Huckabee in some states like Missouri and Oklahoma and Huckabee would be a real threat to McCain.

    I still think if Romney gets out Huckabee has a decent shot at this. I also think if Huckabee gets out Romney still has no chance at this.

  • 28. Jeremiah  |  February 6th, 2008 at 1:49 am

    huck should drop out of the race.

    Magnum,

    You and I differ. I don’t see anyone who would make a finer President or VP than Mike Huckabee. As President he would work wonders for the little defenseless unborn children, and as VP he and McCain would work together for the Pro-Life movement.

    I couldn’t be more proud of my state than this year, for giving Mike all their vote.

    America needs to wake up and support Mike Huckabee, or whoever the Republican nominee might be. I am 100% social Conservative, and if there was ever a time in our Nation that is in a social crisis, it is now.

    People need to realize one thing, when they’re out their amongst the hoopin’ and hollerin’ crowds rooting for Hillary and Obama, that when Mr. Obama touts “change” and Hillary “America” - What does Obama mean when he says “change” he means “get out of Iraq” and open the gates to Jihad. And what does Hillary mean when she says “America”? She means Communist America.

    Not the America my ancestors and I grew up in. No, they were better than what Hillary and Obama wants it to be. Our Forefathers made America what it is, and what it ought to be. Unfortunately, America is not what she used to be, and they would be rolling over in their graves turning their faces away from the wretch that she’s become. What happened? The cold, creepy fingers of Liberalism came in and got its fingers on the new generation. Infesting our colleges with its death grip.

    God help this Nation, I hate to see it when I’m an old man. OTOH, if the Democrats get control, I may not make it that long!!!

    –Jeremiah–

  • 29. kjstrouble  |  February 6th, 2008 at 1:49 am

    The nomination is now McCain’s to lose. I hope that he does not do so, but anything is possible. Also, it looks like McCain owes Rudy a thankyou for setting up the Northeast winner take all states. Huckabee has a reason to stay, he won in the south, resoundingly. Romney, as long as he wants to keep spending his money, he can stay in, but he does not look good. Look for him to come to the same conclusion tomorrow after he gets done crunching the numbers.

    On the dem side - there is not enough of a lead in delegates for either Clinton or Obama to have any reason to get out now. Proportionality has really worked against Clinton tonight.

  • 30. bongoman  |  February 6th, 2008 at 1:54 am

    Jeremiah, would you support amending the Constitution to allow America to become more of a theocracy? What exactly do you think of separation of church and state?

  • 31. Doug  |  February 6th, 2008 at 2:07 am

    “What exactly do you think of separation of church and state?”

    That it is a made-up phrase whose purpose is to make people think the first amendment means something that it doesn’t.

    “would you support amending the Constitution to allow America to become more of a theocracy?”

    I wouldn’t, however, there may come a time that it will need amended to keep America from becoming a gutter.

  • 32. Jeremiah  |  February 6th, 2008 at 2:22 am

    would you support amending the Constitution to allow America to become more of a theocracy?

    I most definitely would amend the Constitution - First and particularly for Life, and then for our schools, that would allow children to be able to pray whever they want to…and when science class rolls around, that Christian students be allowed to rebutt the Atheist side of the debate…and that teachers be required to teach not just the atheist point of view, but the Christian point of view too. However, I’d just sooner do away with the atheist falsehood.
    So this would require two amendments.

    1. A Human-Life amendment.
    2. A school policy and curriculum amenment.

    The turning point to a better America, one the Founders cherished.

    What exactly do you think of separation of church and state?

    ‘A house divided against itself cannot stand.’

    What does that mean? It means that without Leaders who are united as God-fearing men and women, that America will ultimately be destroyed - Why? America can’t expect God’s blessing physically or financially, when they fail to serve Him.

    –Jeremiah–

  • 33. ShanghaiRay  |  February 6th, 2008 at 2:37 am

    Looks like we are going to land up with two a-holes tonite. One Repub and one Dem. What a crying shame too. I think Romney’s Mormonism got in the way and people just didn’t like it. McCain is a worthless piece of excrement if I ever saw one and Hillary isn’t much better or could even be worse. However, I really think it’s boils down to dealing with the devil you know instead of the one you don’t I don’t trust McCain or Obama one iota, each for different reasons. In the past 20+ years I’ve never voted for a Dem but this fall if it’s between M and C….I’ll definitely be voting C and if O lands up with the Dem nominiation against M I just might land up killing myself. We all know the Clintons are self-serving scum but at least they don’t pretend to be otherwise..whereas McCain is a sniveling liar and collaborator in more than one way…I can’t even stand the sight of his discrepid face and worn out rhetoric.

  • 34. Mark Noonan  |  February 6th, 2008 at 2:44 am

    Ray,

    Take a break - have a beer; think carefully. November is a long way from now…and, remember, if Hillary gets in, she’s in for 8.

  • 35. keefer  |  February 6th, 2008 at 5:57 am

    Dittoheads be on the lookout for a rotund man pestering cleaning ladies for pills.

    He could probably do better buying from you, stupidjean.

    On the Donkaroach side, Hitlery’s and Earbama’s speeches tonight were loaded with cliche, but judging the intellect of their turnout, that’s all they need. Both were clearly running against Bush, and offering platitudes and promises they can’t keep. Eat it up, lemmings, and don’t cry when your pay stubs have larger deductions come next year.

    Tally-ho, mates; I’ll be a-watchin’ from afar…

  • 36. Choose.Life.Not.War  |  February 6th, 2008 at 7:58 am

    Deleted - off topic

  • 37. coulterfan  |  February 6th, 2008 at 8:50 am

    >>Barack Obama just spoke… Man… he does a lot of talking without really saying anything. So many people fooled by his warm and fuzzy rhetoric

    Just because the man can speak coherent and eloquent American English, you fault him for that?

    Hmmm. . . . who else was criticized by his political opponents (of both parties) for his lofty rhetoric? Such as:

    “It is the American sound. It is hopeful, big-hearted, idealistic, daring, decent, and fair. That’s our heritage; that is our song. We sing it still.”

    Who was that other leader who inspired with soaring idealism and was derided as being an “empty suit”. . . none other than Ronald Reagan!

    Again, look at Obama’s web site and you will find MUCH MORE detail than on either GOP’s web site (Ed. Note: but we did that, yesterday, and found out there’s nothing there in regard to details…are you a paid shill for the Obama campaign?). Further, the reason ALL AMERICANS (including Republicans) are inspired by Obama is his strong belief in America, his shameless optimism, and that he is a self-made man. . . in short, the American dream.

    How do you think it’s going to play in November to have an optimistic ‘”Yes, we can” solve the nation’s problems’ candidate versus the “The jobs are not coming back”, “more wars” pessisism of McCain?!?!?

  • 38. Joe  |  February 6th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    ok… I know this is off topic…(Ed. Note: You’re right)


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