Primaries Tonight
February 9th, 2008 at 10:10pm Matt Margolis
I’m tired… feel free to discuss the primary results tonight…
UPDATE, by Mark Noonan: I’m not quite so tired, but I managed to sleep on the plane a little.
Huckabee had a good night, and the rumor-mill out there is a worry that Huckabee might be able to pull off a win in Texas. I’m not so sure about that - in Louisiana, Huckabee fell short of the necessary votes to immediately secure Louisiana’s delegates, and they’ll now be awarded at a State convention, where they are almost certain to go to McCain. Meanwhile, Huckabee’s crushing victory in Kansas is offset, in delegates, by McCain’s slight win in Washington, and its still mathematically nearly impossible for Huckabee to derail McCain. Blogs for Victory advises Huckabee to pack it in - we’ve got an election to win, not an ego to feed.
Meanhile, Barack Obama scored huge today, and that means he’s probably tied - if not slightly ahead - of Hillary in the delegate count. Word is that in upcoming primaries, however, Hillary should do fairly well…which means that there won’t be a Democratic nominee until at least the end of March, and my feeling is that its becoming very hard for the Democrats to avoid an open convention.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Democrats, Republicans
15 Comments
1. sleepygene | February 9th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Clean sweep by Barry and it looks like Huck is a thorn in the side of St. John of Phoenix.
2. Arctic Fox | February 10th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Huckabee has taken Kansas for certain, and it’s looking like he might have got all the others too. With Obama beating Clinton across the board tonight, it makes things extremely interesting.
If Clinton decides to quit and run for VP on Obama’s ticket, that leaves the Republican party looking more splintered then the Democrats.
3. Doug | February 10th, 2008 at 2:09 am
In Washington, McCain hasn’t got any delegates. All the precinct delegates are unpledged. Who knows what will happen when they go to county, then the state caucus. McCain didn’t get 74% of the delegates and like Louisiana, if Romney supporters keep voting for Huckabee they can deny McCain the necessary delegates to avoid a brokered convention.
If it’s close, don’t expect these state caucus goers to coalesce around McCain so quickly. A brokered convention could guarantee them a McCain/Romney ticket or even a Huckabee/Romney or Romney/Huckabee ticket.
4. Doug | February 10th, 2008 at 2:11 am
btw, Karl Rove was wrong with his math. It only takes 61% of the remaining delegates to derail McCain. McCain still needs about 40% of the remaining delegates or else it’s a brokered convention.
5. Mark Noonan | February 10th, 2008 at 2:38 am
Doug,
That is actually exactly what my father is thinking might happen - I’m 99% confident, however, that McCain will be the nominee, and he’ll have it wrapped up long before the GOP convention opens.
6. Christian Wright | February 10th, 2008 at 4:01 am
The people voting for Huckabee will not vote for McCain in the general election unless Clinton prevails.
I think Obama will win the nomination and McCain will take a distant second. Well maybe not so distant. We still have not eliminated all those Diebold and ESS machines. You know, the hacked ones that don’t leave a paper trail.
7. neocon | February 10th, 2008 at 7:24 am
>>>We still have not eliminated all those Diebold and ESS machines. You know, the hacked ones that don’t leave a paper trail. - CW<<<
Oh those ones. Just a little ignorant Orwellian world you occupy there Christian.
8. Marty13 | February 10th, 2008 at 7:45 am
neo, your responses never address issues. Strictly from your posts, you could be a case study on the Nat’l Geo’s, the Dog Whisperer. You could be that cute but entirely unlikable lil’ dog that bites anyone who approaches him. I can see Ceasar Milan taking you for walks and redirecting you every time you display your needless vitriol.
Regarding Diebold though, are you saying it’s just another urban legend?
9. phnx | February 10th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Arctic Fox, You must be experiencing a brain freeze:
1. Hillary would never accept a number 2 spot. why should she? She would be giving up her high profile, high power senate seat for political obscurity and irrelevance.
2. Obama would be crazy to risk his life and have Hillary as his number 2, given the numerous suspicious deaths of FOB (Friends of Bill).
More likely Richardson will be Obama’s running mate. That will be necessary to win over the Hispanic vote…that and promising to grant citizenship and party membership to all 20 million illegals.
10. neocon | February 10th, 2008 at 8:21 am
Marty,
You’re new here, obviously with little to say other than perpetuating liberal propaganda. Therefore my only response to you and other like you is to mock and ridicule. If you can bring nothing more to the table than tired old debunked talking points, you deserve nothing more.
I relish a good debate, sadly, you offer none of the sort.
11. neocon | February 10th, 2008 at 8:24 am
>>>Regarding Diebold though, are you saying it’s just another urban legend? - marty<<<
And this is a good example of your lack of intelligence. Why are the diebold machines only an issue when Republicans win? We never heard one instance of voter malfeasance in 2006. And can you explain the problems in LA of the sudden switch of voter affiliation many experienced when they went to the polls.
And tell me your thoughts on Norman Hsu.
12. phnx | February 10th, 2008 at 8:36 am
Mark,
Huckleberry would love to be VP, but it will never happen. His liberal credentials are as questionable as McCain’s.
Romney would be a better choice, but I doubt he wants it, and I doubt McCain wants him. He’s looking past this election to the next one.
The VP slot will have to be a young conservative to attract the base, as well as offset the age issue. Rick Santorum would be a good choice, but his public statements about McCain make it unlikely.
Mark Sanford, Gov. of south Carolina is a possible choice, with good conservative credentials, who also appeals to libertarians.
Another likely candidate is Ken Blackwell from Ohio, who lost a close race for Gov. of Ohio, which will be a pivitol state in November.
13. Ricorun | February 10th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Matt: Blogs for Victory advises Huckabee to pack it in - we’ve got an election to win, not an ego to feed.
Yeah, dammit. We don’t want no stinkin’ democracy getting in the way of an election!
Seriously though, it seems to me that Huckabee getting out would do more to feed another ego — McCain’s. One of McCain’s least endearing traits is that he tends towards arrogance. And that’s not a good thing. The McCain camp can’t be too pleased with how things played out yesterday. I mean heck, he was competing against what amounted to air at this point and he still couldn’t win. Okay, with 87% of precincts in WA reporting he’s the projected “winner” — with a whopping 26% of the vote. And that was a caucus for crying out loud. That’s gotta hurt. Clearly he still has some ’splainin to do. And Huckabee still on the ticket can provide the measure. If he can’t beat Huckabee, then I think he needs to be very concerned.
14. sleepygene | February 10th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Has the Washington GOP tallied 100% of the caucas goers yesterday? Why does it take so long. It seems they don’t want to tally them all up because Huck might actually win. Either way Huck has a core that will not peal off to McCain because he is the presumptive nominee.
15. sleepygene | February 10th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
I guess the Washington GOP just called it for McCain with a pathetic 26%. That is all.