With Friends Like These…


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…Hillary doesn’t need any enemies:

Stumping for Clinton, Steinem Says McCain’s P.O.W. Cred Is Overrated

…Steinem raised McCain’s Vietnam imprisonment as she sought to highlight an alleged gender-based media bias against Clinton.

“Suppose John McCain had been Joan McCain and Joan McCain had got captured, shot down and been a POW for eight years. [The media would ask], ‘What did you do wrong to get captured? What terrible things did you do while you were there as a captive for eight years?’” Steinem said, to laughter from the audience.

McCain was, in fact, a prisoner of war for around five-and-a-half years, during which time he was tortured repeatedly. Referring to his time in captivity, Steinem said with bewilderment, “I mean, hello? This is supposed to be a qualification to be president? I don’t think so.” (emphasis added)

Ah, liberals yukking it up – ’cause its funny, see? You know, McCain and the rest of them being tortured in the Hanoi Hilton…a real laugh riot, don’t you know?

The fall campaign might be a lot more fun than any of us expected…

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24 Responses to “With Friends Like These…”

  1. christian Wright says:

    Deleted – slanderous attack on an American hero.

  2. Freedom1 says:

    John McCain is an extraordinarily brave man. He went through a hell I cannot even begin to imagine, nor would I want to. It’s utterly disgusting to see this kind of attack against a man who fought for America and suffers for it to this day with a broken body. I deeply appreciate the gift he and so many other American soldiers fought to preserve for us, Americans…the precious gift of FREEDOM.

  3. Don’t get me wrong, but in a round about way she has a point. Just being tortured or just being in the military isn’t a qualification for president.

    Now are they signs of his dedication and metal as a person? Sure, and THAT is good to know about a candidate. In and of themselves they shouldn’t be why one votes for him.

    That’s like voting for someone because they’re black, or because they’re a woman. :D

  4. Arctic Fox says:

    I do think Hillary’s campaign team, and to some extend her herself are beginning to lose the plot somewhat.

    Whether you agree with someone or not, there’s NO excuse for mocking their misfortune (in this case Mr McCain’s capture) whatsoever. That goes for both sides. You can tell when a campaign has sunk into the gutter when it starts doing this.

    There are far more valid reasons for challenging any candidate, Mr McCain included, on their suitability for the office of President. This kind of thing is despicable, and I deplore it no matter who it comes from or who it is aimed at.

  5. Steve J. says:

    Well, exactly how does being a POW qualify one?

  6. Arctic Fox says:

    You’re missing the point, Steve. Mr McCain has a whole series of things he can be bought to task for, from blind following of fiscal policies (tax cuts particularly) to integrity in voting, as he has been demonstrated to have voted against bills he either introduced himself or co-authored.

    Being a P.O.W. doesn’t qualify one, but it doesn’t disqualify one either. And it shouldn’t be made fun of, or treated lightly. It’s a serious matter, not least for the individual concerned, and it demonstrates disrespect and downright rudeness to make jokes of it.

  7. Steve J. says:

    Arctic -

    I see your point but I don’t think Steinem was trying to belittle McCain.

  8. phnx says:

    Thank you Gloria S for more clearly defining the lunacy on the left. I can’t think of anyone who has ever claimed that McCain’s POW experience qualifies him to be President. However, McCain’s refusal to be repatriated because of his father’s position shows a strenght of character that neither Clinton nor Obama have ever demonstrated. Such derision will only serve to galvanize the base, as well as all those who have served and understand the sacrifices that McCain made for his country and his fellow POWs.

  9. Bull says:

    why is his POW experience even being talked about by others? he’s not campaigning on. john kerry’s only platform was that he served in vietnam and won 3 purple hearts.

    mccain was attacked here for zero good reason. and there is plenty of things you could attack him on, but this was not one of them.

  10. OhioOrrin says:

    Mac was active duty while Steinem was a playboy bunny.

    which qualifies as service to the country?

  11. plainjane says:

    I believe she meant no harm. Her biggest jab is at how men and women in similar situations are perceived. There is nothing wrong with that since she is a leader in the women’s rights movement. I would expect nothing less from her.

    “…..This is supposed to be a qualification to be president?” I take some issue with this statement. But it has to be in the context it is just one of many qualifications it takes to be President. By being a POW McCain knows full well the horrors of war; this history should be part of his present judgment. Although I am now not so sure since he readily compromised his morals to appease the conservatives and voted with them in an attempt to permit torture. Maybe if President Bush had witnessed these horrors of war as did Senators Kerry and McCain we wouldn’t be in this Iraq Civil war that has no end.

    Today the President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, was greeted in Baghdad as if he were a liberator. How is that working for you neocons out there? Idiots! Blow back sucks.

  12. plainjane says:

    Mac was active duty while Steinem was a playboy bunny.which qualifies as service to the country?10. OhioOrrin | March 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 am

    Both, many a vet had a copy of Playboy stashed somewhere to remind them of what they were missing back home.

  13. js says:

    There were plenty of women that served in Viet Nam. Matter of fact, the Cong had a special POW camp for women named Qui Nhon.

    Not the Hill though, she was busy doing the same thing Bush was doing, going to schools and learning about politic’s. You dont see any service record for the reserves for her though, she absolutely did not serve her country during that war, or any other war as far as that goes.

  14. OhioOrrin says:

    plainjane – ok, I gotta admit I like that.

  15. MorrisMajor says:

    plainjane,
    are you insulting our little brown freedom loving children in Iraq, how dare you you rotten liberal traitor. Iraq is all about freedom, or wmd’s or al qaeda or I just forgot

  16. Almiranta says:

    jane is such an example of the Lemming Left, I am pretty sure she has a nice red star pinned on her lapel for her dedication to The Cause.

    MCain stood up to torture, refused to be released ahead of his men, and in general acted with honor and dignity in a horrible and extremely dangerous situation.

    Experiences like these tend to form character and let others know what to expect, character-wise.

    Remember, JFK (the real one, not Kerry) got a lot of mileage out the wreck of PT-109. It got wrecked because he was reckless, but he eventually acted in a heroic manner, and much was made of it during his campaigns.

    Much was made of Kerry’s alleged acts of heroism. Do you really think Kerry and his crew decided to risk opening up that can of worms because they thought honorable military service was a negative? No, they used a highly edited and sanitized (and fictionalized) version of his Viet Nam service specifically to tout his qualifications to be president.

    A man who actually DID serve honorably, and well, was excoriated by the most rabid mouthbreathers of the radical Left, actually accused of being AWOL and of being a draft dodger and much worse, because the Left thought they could hang their vile and vicious attacks on the hook that his service was not in combat duty.

    So the Left has its own history, honorable and the exact opposite, of using military experience as a criterion for qualification to be president. Now they are again trying to add conditions—now it has to be the exact form and style of miltary service THEY have deemed acceptable.

    Of course, they are in the awkward postion of attacking two honorable men, Bush and Cheney, for nearly a decade, based on the fact that one was not eligible for the draft due to his marital status, fatherhood status, and student status, and the other served in a branch the Left suddenly deemed unacceptable. The Left created the vile term “chickenhawk” and used it, relentlessly.

    And now both of their potential candidates qualify for that very term. So of course they have to try to manipulate definitions, terms, and characteristics of military service to hide the very things in their own candidates that they have identified as disqualifications in others.

    It is just dirty, nasty, evil, and disgusting, the Politics of Personal Destruction raising its ugly head again, as we expected given the history of Leftist politicking.

    (Waiting for a knee-jerk reaction from jane about “swiftboating”–the poor dear still doesn’t understand that the true meaning is “bringing out facts to counter lies”.)

  17. Piggy says:

    Deleted – off topic.

  18. Michael says:

    If Steinem’s comments were so innocent and well-intentioned, why did the Hildebeast refute them?

  19. Darva Conger says:

    Deleted – off topic.

  20. GOP4ME says:

    I love how the leftists abhor politics of personal destruction only when it is a demoncrat being attacked.

    Attack a GOP’er? Who cares…

    You imbeciles take hypocrisy to unimaginable levels…

  21. Joe says:

    you people are too funny…. “Hildebeast”, “Demoncrats”.

    Let’s add that to “Hitlery”, “Earbama”, “Reidtard” and “Piglosi”.

    You people are a laugh riot! This is like a 4th grade playground.

  22. sleepygene says:

    Deleted – off topic.

  23. sleepygene says:

    Deleted – off topic.

  24. Marty13 says:

    My late grandfather spent 3 plus years as a guest of the Imperial Japanese Army. From this, he took away an undimished and lifelong hatred of all things oriental and even more so, all things Douglas McArthur. Unfortunately, in his last years he returned to the camps in his mind and he essentially lived out his last years plotting to finally escape.
    Though this captivity clearly shaped his life, it in no way provided him with any special qualifications to be the CiC. As an aside, I would love to have had the chance to ask him what he thinks about our current waterboard approving administration.