34 Comments

• 1. Ken  |  March 6th, 2008 at 10:46 am

  I’m willing to bet that $5M reward is just a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of Drug Rehab alone in the US.

  That Mr. Chavez backed the thug is no supprise to me.

  I’m also willing to bet that within the next 4 to 6 comments, one or more of our Liberal friends will either make a drug related crack on President Bush or make some other snarky remark.

• 2. Joe  |  March 6th, 2008 at 11:24 am

  Mark — Anyone really want to wonder which side we should be on in this conflict?

  I don’t think anyone is questioning which “side” we would be supporting. It is only you righties that want to say that Dems are always backing Chavez.
  The question here is do we start bombing right away or do we try to negotiate and end to this stand off? That is where you say bomb them and take out Chavez, we say negotiate a truce before a conflict actually starts.
  But of course….. you hate talking with enemies.

  Ken — I’m also willing to bet that within the next 4 to 6 comments, one or more of our Liberal friends will either make a drug related crack on President Bush or make some other snarky remark.

  Is there anything that can be said that you wouldn’t consider “snarky”?
  I guess I would be willing to bet that in the next 4-6 comments some of our rightie friends will advocate invading Venezuela.

• 3. plainjane  |  March 6th, 2008 at 11:28 am

  Ken | March 6th, 2008 at 10:46 am

  By your comments, people like you are so poisoned by right wing Limbaugh/Hannity hate radio you don’t even make any sense anymore.

  What Democrat would not want to see these pieces of filth off the streets? Our DEA agents risk their lives every day to stop the pure greed of the heroin and cocaine trade from reaching our shores. This is a police action.

  Where we take issue is with making excuses and using fear to use our military for Republican neocon nation building.

• 4. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche  |  March 6th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

  Terrific. Another dent in the side of supply. What’s being done about demand?

  snark…snark…..snark…

  Didn’t want to disappoint Ken you know.

• 5. Just Another Taxpayer  |  March 6th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

  Love to pay whoever did the killing for us. But where are we going to find the money? But what is the problem with our economy?According to Bush, its OPEC. He said so.
  I suppose a better way to frame the problem is to ask these questions: How many terrorists have to be killed to save your house from forclosure?
  How many to keep the economy from falling into recession?
  Look forward to your responses, if you’ve got the guts to give any.

• 6. congressive  |  March 6th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

  You conveniently stopped your quote one sentence short:

  “This is the largest narcotics trafficking indictment ever filed in U.S. history, and fuels our hope to reduce narco violence in Colombia and stem the tide of illegal drugs entering our country.”

  “I should remind everyone that this indictment does not mean that these defendants have been convicted of a crime. They are innocent until and unless proven guilty in a court of law. “

  Who needs due process? Accuse, kill, then convict. To paraphrase the Untouchables, “that’s the Judeo-Christian way.”

  Kill ‘em all. Let God sort ‘em out.

• 7. CuriousGeorge  |  March 6th, 2008 at 5:05 pm

  Foreclosure will take care of itself, without the government, Just Another Dipwad. Why are so many homes in foreclosure? Why don’t you ask Congress, the Donkaroaches in particular, who demanded that home loans be made available to those who clearly couldn’t afford them.

  Yes, yes, we all know that Hillbama will put a moratorium on foreclosures, riiiight. Another example of government involving itself in something they should leave alone. Government solves nothing…

• 8. congressive  |  March 6th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

  Donkaroaches…demanded that home loans be made available to those who clearly couldn’t afford them.

  Really? Really? Wow.

  Just.Wow.

• 9. congressive  |  March 6th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

  Hillbama will put a moratorium on foreclosures

  REALLY?

• 10. Joe  |  March 6th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

  keefer, you never fail to amaze with the crap that spews out of you.
  Of course…….. it is the BORROWERS fault on these. And well… the “Donckaroaches” fault as well but that goes without saying.

  You are a clown.

  (Did I spell everything correctly you grammar-nazi?)

• 11. Eric T  |  March 6th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

  Good to see!

  I have seen many people throw their life down the toilet because cocaine use. I Watched friends go to prison, and woman do some of the most vile things imaginable on the quest for some more “toot”. It is real sad to see a young kid destroy their life with that stuff.

  When they talk about Free Trade deals with Columbia, You can’t help but think of smugglers getting creative and stuffing the coke into food, coffee cans, sewing it into upholstry or whatever products they are shipping. It seems like that stuff is not flooding the streets as it once did. I think its best that way too.

  If they were going to legalize it and sell it at Walgreens, CVS, Rite Aid. It would be different. It would at least be safe.

  But them dealers cut it with Ajax, soap, whatever they got and it makes people sick. Up here where I live, a herion dealer was cutting his stuff with something that killed about 50 people, not too long ago.

• 12. Kahn  |  March 6th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

  Wait a second. I did NOT see liberal posters at B4B attacking Chavez when he slammed us at the UN. I see lefty Hollywood types like Belefonte, Penn, Glover, viviting him ALL the damn time. I don’t see you critcizing THEM. I see Joe Kennedy teaming with Chavez in a propaganda ploy - and see no-one criticizing HIM.

  During the elections Venezuala just had, I didn’t see you attacking Chavez.

  WHEN did you all start not liking him? When you realized there is an election in seven months?

• 13. Kahn  |  March 6th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

  Which one of you lefty rocket scientists bombed the Army recruiting station this morning?

  Or you going to claim it was Rush Limbaugh also?

• 14. congressive  |  March 6th, 2008 at 6:44 pm

  Hey Mark,

  I must say it shows a tremendous amount of restraint to NOT mention this part of the story:

  “Writing two days before his death, [FARC foreign minister] Reyes tells his comrades that “the gringos,” working through Ecuador’s government, are interested “in talking to us on various issues.”

  “They say the new president of their country will be (Barack) Obama,” he writes, saying Obama rejects both the Bush administration’s free trade agreement with Colombia and the current military aid program.

  A vote for Barack is therefore a vote for the terrorists. You’re welcome.

  I do wonder who, exactly, are these “gringos” he was talking to, who seemed to know for sure that Obama was next up to the plate…

  Hey, there’s another cool five million of American taxpayer dollars being awarded to another Columbian soldier, as Reyes is on the list, too.

• 15. congressive  |  March 6th, 2008 at 6:52 pm

  During the elections Venezuala just had, I didn’t see you attacking Chavez.

  Why criticize this? (It’s Fox News, so it’s safe to click…)

  Until Chavez overturns those election results, or issues some kind of “signing statement”, it looks like democracy to me.

• 16. A Concerned Colombian  |  March 6th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

  Just a quick note: As far as I know, Pedro Antonio Marin a.k.a. “Sureshot” hasn’t been killed. It is rumored that he is sick and hiding in Venezuela (hence, all the troops Chavez moved to the border. It is rumored their purpose is not a possible attack on Colombia but, rather, to defend “Sureshot,” the maximum leader of the FARC.

  The narco-terrorist rebel leader killed in the raid was Raul Reyes (who, as another poster noted, is also on the list).

• 17. Ricorun  |  March 6th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

  Kahn: During the elections Venezuala just had, I didn’t see you attacking Chavez.

  Well, I did. Actually, I’ve been pretty hard on the guy. Not in a knee-jerk way perhaps, but knee-jerks aren’t required in his case. It’s pretty obvious what he’s up to. But anyway, does that mean you’ll exclude me from future references to “you liberals”? Lol!

  Concerned Colombian, could you fill us in on the views of the other neighboring states to this development, as well as the view of the OAS? It seems to me that US involvement at this point (particularly if it was direct involvement) would be counter-productive on many levels. Would you agree with that? If not, why?

• 18. A Concerned Colombian  |  March 6th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

  Right now it is very heated and all countries await the results of the OAS inquiry. Though the FARC is in the US and EU’s list of terrorist groups, it does have its supporters. The most notable of these is Chavez who, despite claiming he doesn’t support illegal groups, offered a moment of silence for the narco-terrorist Reyes who was killed in the raid. Chavez has also been linked to the FARC in numerous documents found on the slain rebel’s computers. Ecuadorian President, Rafael Correa, received strong backing from Chavez during the elections and, so, strongly support Chavez. Though he denies backing the FARC, documents have surfaced also linking his government to the terrorist group. Nicaragua is the latest country to sever ties with Colombia, though it comes as no surprise. When the Nicaraguan President was elected, the FARC sent him a cordial congratulatory note. Nicaragua is also currently embroiled in a territorial dispute with Colombia over marine territory and so is taking advantage of this conflict to weaken Colombia.

  Most of the Latin American countries have reprimanded Colombia for violating the sovereignty of Ecuador, though they have yet to condemn Venezuela and Ecuador for offering sanctuary to a terrorist group. This may be because the investigation regarding the documents is still in its very early stages and besides allegations, the veracity of the documents hasn’t yet been established nor have they all been studied (four computers plus flash drives were found. Members of Interpol will arrive in Colombia next week to help with the extraction of data). At a later date, when all proof comes to light, there might be (and I hope there will be) pan-latin American condemnation of Ecuador and Venezuela.

  Another reason there hasn’t been that widespread condemnation yet would be that most countries in Latin America simply might not see the FARC as a terrorist group. With repeated murders, extortions, kidnappings, rapes, setting up mine fields, recruiting of minors, why any country wouldn’t consider FARC a terrorist is beyond me.

  I’m currently waiting for the OAS to conduct it’s investigation. It’ll look into Colombia crossing the border while Colombia will try to push for a focus on Ecuador’s support for the FARC. OAS current stance is simply that a country’s sovereignty is inviolable and that it’ll investigate both sides and provide its report on March 17.

  What sickens me is the circus Correa and Chavez are running, meeting with leaders of Latin American countries and trying to get them on their side. They never mention, though, how the camp found in Ecuador was a permanent one, not make-shift. How the Colombian government has repeatedly asked Ecuador not to let the guerrilla set up camp in their territory but received little or no response. Neither do they condemn the FARC themselves and act as if this was an attack against Ecuador, rather than a well-known terrorist group who has many members on Interpol’s wanted list. Many have speculated all this noise is to detract attention from the proof that might surface of Ecuador and Venezuela’s ties with the FARC. In other words, they know they’re fvcked.

  Currently, I don’t believe it would be beneficial to the situation for the U.S. to get any more involved than the appropriate comments it has already made. With Chavez’s strong anti-American sentiments and his impulsiveness, should the U.S mention anything about military backing, it could be the drop that spills the cup. Right now, it’s best to let it cool over, let the OAS take care of it as well as the UN and see what happens (hopefully sanctions against Venezuela and Ecuador). However, should Chavez, for any reason, attack Colombia and start a war, then yes, I would be all for the U.S. backing Colombia militarily. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Chavez is a danger to the stability of the region, Latin America and, if given enough time, will be to the world.

• 19. Tony Ghost  |  March 6th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

  I’m so tired of being the world’s cop.

  Enough already. We’ve got our own problems. I say, let them shoot it out down there. Let it get real nasty. We then go in and mop up.

  It’ll be like a kid in a candy factory.

  Yeah baby, all the good weed, all the best coke, and the coffee!

  Mo money, mo money, mo money.

• 20. Almiranta  |  March 6th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

  What you all are missing is the fact that FARC CAN’T be in Ecuador, because you see it is a Colombian terror group and we all know, from reading the Lefty cant we keep getting dumped on us here, that no terrorist from one country can be in another country. It’s just not the way the rules are written.

  Just look at Al Queda. We all KNOW they were in Afghanistan, therefore they simply could not have been in any other country, in any other guise. Rules are rules, and once you sign on to any terror group, you have to stay in your own country, and can only work with those who have the same ID badge and secret decoder ring.
  ……………………………………….

  I have friends in Peru who are worried sick about their families because of the FARC presence in Peru.. For years now they have been moving in, establishing permanent camps, and ‘recruiting’ people. I say ‘recruiting’ because their tactics have included kidnapping children and forcing them to join, and killing anyone who refuses to join.

  Fujimori had the—manly parts—to stand up to terrorists, and although he was a crook, he did nearly wipe out terrorism in Peru. (Though I remember a lot of Lefty whining about the killing of the terrorists who took over the Japanese Embassy in Lima in 1996—they were sooooo YOUNG, they never had a TRIAL…. boo hoo…) I remember saying Peru would have been better off to just pay him whatever he was skimming, just to keep him on the job.

  Now Peru has Alan Garcia, an empty suit who tells the people what they want to hear but couldn’t stand up to a gang of Cub Scouts. Kind of like what a lot of America is trying to elect here……..

  I really wish we could physically split the country, so the Lefties could actually LIVE in the wacky world they keep saying they want, without putting the rest of us in danger. I wish we could have separate airlines, so they could fly with praying mullahs and we wouldn’t have to. I wish they could have their own country, with 90% taxes on those pesky “rich” and where they could treat terrorists, if they agreed to call them such hateful names and if they could figure out how to actually accuse someone of wrongdoing without being guilty of HATE, like jaywalkers.

  I don’t care what they do as long as they don’t increase the dangers to the reasonable people of the country.

• 21. Tony Ghost  |  March 6th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

  Almy,

  Just look at Al Queda. We all KNOW they were in Afghanistan, therefore they simply could not have been in any other country, in any other guise. Rules are rules, and once you sign on to any terror group, you have to stay in your own country, and can only work with those who have the same ID badge and secret decoder ring.

  I get it, your implying that A.Q. was in Iraq, laying out their plans to terrorize the world.

  You know the unknown knowns?

  May I borrow your crystal ball?

  Oh, and please, spare some of the bandwidth, kay?

• 22. Kahn  |  March 6th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

  Rico - sorry. When I speak in the plural, obviously there are exceptions.

  Note “Congressive’s” reply to me.

  Congressive - Not even criticizing him now? Of course he lost the election - we know that. You accept the election? Great. Very magnanamous. BUT - how about the attacks on America? The leftist hollywood types? The socialism?

  Sure, he’s bad now. Whatever. Keep saying it until we all believe it. He’s the bad guy through November anyways.

  By the way, I see liberal “war opposers” now oppose war by using I.E.D.’s against U.S. military facilities in New York. Great. It was just a small I.E.D. though. The shrapnel probably wouldn’t have even hurt that much as it entered someones skull.

• 23. Kahn  |  March 6th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

  A soft and friendly, carbon neutral, organic, explosive designed to destroy, harm, and kill with the maximum artistic taste. Very chic.

  Hopefully it won’t cause too much emotional distress in the people who work there? Maybe NPR can do a story on that? You know, leftist violence puts that last one straw in the basket that causes some poor combat veteran soldier to dislove into severe PTSD? That WOULD be a good story. They’ve done several on it already - but the domestic angle would be fresh.

  So, this is leftist terrorism…. right? Like the environmentalists in the NorthWest who burn down houses? Thats also leftist terrorism, isn’t it? Good thing we weren’t listening in on their phone calls.

• 24. Freedom1  |  March 7th, 2008 at 12:41 am

  Kahn,
  Yeah, the bombing of the NYC Times Square military recruiting station appears to be leftist “anti-war” terrorism.

  “Anti-war” people who use war to protest war. Ironic in the extreme.

• 25. phnx  |  March 7th, 2008 at 12:56 am

  What leftists, no defense of the eco-terrorists or the bicylce bomber?

  The question is who are they more likely to vote for, Hillary or Obama?

• 26. Mark Noonan  |  March 7th, 2008 at 2:18 am

  Concerned Colombia,

  I agree that for now the US should keep a low profile - there is a large amount of latent anti-Americanism (justified, in some cases) in Latin America and there’s no sense in making this a coflict with the norteamericanos - the issue is Ecuador and Venezuela backing terrorist/criminal groups which have plagued Colombia for far too long. We should keep the issue right there because that is where Chavez is on weak ground (and I think he knows it, thus his attempts to whip up anti-Americanism in response to this crisis).

  But I am glad that our President forthrightly stated that we back the people and government of Colombia and I feel confident that if Chavez resorts to war, you in Colombia will find America firmly on your side.

• 27. Ken  |  March 7th, 2008 at 2:57 am

  Hi Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche,
  I ran your comments to the Snarkotics lab. the
  found large doses of amusing humor…

  …

  Jane,
  I don’t listen to talk radio. I haven’t listened to Limbaugh or Hannity for a long time. Also, I
  believe you when you say Democrats don’t want that filth on the streets.

  Joe,
  whatever…

  anyway…

  It would seem that Mr. Chavez has ties with terrorist, drug lords and in general, scum.
  While I do not see that as a justification to
  invade Venezuela or send an aircraft carrier
  to sit of of Venezuela’s coast, I would like to
  see some serious sanctions against Venezuela.
  FARC has caused a lot of pain and suffering in
  Central and South America and anyone or
  any nation that supports FARC is just as guilty.

• 28. CuriousGeorge  |  March 7th, 2008 at 8:04 am

  Rico, as a “moderate,” you don’t count when you criticize Hugo. It is expected of you. But the troll pukes are hypocrites; they toe the party line. Maybe it’s the cheap heating oil…

• 29. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche  |  March 7th, 2008 at 8:15 am

  Kahn,
  “Yeah, the bombing of the NYC Times Square military recruiting station appears to be leftist “anti-war” terrorism.
  “Anti-war” people who use war to protest war. Ironic in the extreme.”

  So if this is obviously “left wing” terrorism then we can assume that those anthrax laden letters sent to Democratic (thats the proper name you right-wing lemmings) congressmen was right-wing terrorism?

  but, but, but according to Mark and you guys, Righties are the happiest, peaceful, God luvin’ and fearin’ people on the planet……. I’M SHOCKED!!.

  Oh yea, let’s also not forget those peace loving right wingers who were killing family planning doctors a few years ago. Killing people to prove that killing people is wrong……..hmmmmmmm interestingly ironic.

• 30. Kahn  |  March 7th, 2008 at 9:13 am

  Well, actually yes Nietzsche - they never did figure out who did the anthrax stuff, did they? There were no claims I’m aware of associated with them, were there? The major suspect MAY have done it as a protest against bio weapons. Or as a money plot. Hard to say, as he was never charged.

  But if you think that the possibility that someone MAY have done something several years ago justifies OBVIOUSLY leftist ecoterrorism and anti-war terrorism NOW, then I guess it’s hard to argue with you.

  Not that your’re corect, it’s just hard to argue with a crazy person.

  But hey, throw bombs at troops while you say you support them. There’s no inconsistency there at all.

• 31. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche  |  March 7th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

  Wow Kahn-

  That was so slick we could almost skate on that smarmy response.
  First off numbnuts, whoa whoa whao!!! slow down, you have absolutly no proof what so ever that the bomb thrower in Times Square was a left winger in the first place. May he’s a disgruntled veteran who’s rabidly right-wing and now hates the military for any variety of reasons. Maybe it’s just a person looking to stir trouble for the sheer joy of anarchy with no political afiliation at all. You don’t know, but you’ll take any opportunity at all to throw your own “bombs” at the Left wing in this nation. Rather self serving I’d say.
  As for glossing over the murder of doctors by Right Wing extremists, for shame Kahn. Just shows your moral compass is certainly broken, but then again we already know that based on you long history of comments here.

• 32. Kahn  |  March 7th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

  Nietzsche - you are absolutely correct. Someone attacking an Army recruiting station might NOT be a leftist terrorist.

  It may have been an insomniac nun with a sour stomach. Or it might have been an angry coal miner. Heck, it might have been the same person who forged those anti-Bush documents for CBS a few years ago (wait, that might be a bad example).

  Until we catch that person, there’s no telling who it was or why he or she did it. And even after he or she is caught and after it comes out that he or she is an extreme anti-military leftist, well there will be no reason to believe that either as it could all be faked.

  No reason to think it was a leftist wacko at all. A disgruntled emplyee? Yep, that COULD have been it. My money is on the insomniac nun.

• 33. Kahn  |  March 7th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

  More outstanding support for the military:

  http://www.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8482917?source=email

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