19 Comments

• 1. congressive  |  March 10th, 2008 at 1:29 am

  Profits over people, that’s the conservative way. Shoot up two people with one vial of medication, and voila! Double the profit margin. THEN they can charge you for getting tested to see if you’ve been exposed. THEN you’re soon going to be even more profitable patients when Hep C and AIDS kick in.

  Don’t you just love our for-profit medical system? Thanks Bush for packing the FDA and other watchdog offices with profit-friendly cronies.

  What a country!

• 2. Bigfoot  |  March 10th, 2008 at 8:43 am

  I get an error when I click on the Battleborn Politics link.

  Don’t you just love our for-profit medical system?

  OK, let’s give up on the entire system, because the clinics in one city screwed up (to use a PG-rated term).

  Or we could instead go to socialized medicine, and have people waiting for something like 6 months to get an operation, or go to the hospital instead of a quick doctor’s office visit, because they don’t have to worry about paying for it.

  “Profit before people”? Sounds more like idiocy to me. Any doctor or nurse worth his/her salt knows that doing things the wrong way can bring malpractice suits, civil and criminal penalties, and a loss of business from patients deciding to go elsewhere. If they are truly motivated by profit, and have an ounce of brainpower, it would mean that they are motivated to do their job well.

• 3. phnx  |  March 10th, 2008 at 9:55 am

  “Don?t you just love our for-profit medical system? Thanks Bush for packing the FDA and other watchdog offices with profit-friendly cronies.” Congressive

  This comment shows a complete lack of understanding of the mandate of the FDA, as well as the usual leftists BDS comment on something you know nothing about.

  Finally would you care to provide some proof that the Bush administration has packed the FDA with “profit loving cronies”?

• 4. Sunny  |  March 10th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

  phnx, I don’t know that the Bush administration has packed the FDA with “profit loving cronies”, (don’t know that they didn’t either) but I do know that when that wonderful prescription drug bill was passed by the Bush administration/congress it certainly did take care of the pharmaceutical industry by forbidding the government from buying drugs from foreign countries or negating for lower prices. The pharmaceutical companies wrote the bill - but I wouldn’t necessarily call that cronyism, would you?

• 5. phnx  |  March 10th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

  “I don’t know that the Bush administration has packed the FDA with “profit loving cronies”, (don’t know that they didn’t either)” sunny

  But given your BDS you are willing to believe that they did aren’t you.

  “The pharmaceutical companies wrote the bill.” Sunny

  Citation of credible proof please, and not just some alegation from some leftists web site. Otherwise this is just another unsubstantiated charge based purely on BDS

• 6. Kahn  |  March 10th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

  Las Vegas, FYI you idiot liberal posters, is STRONGLY Democrat. In fact, it is THE Democrat area in Nevada.

  So attack conservatives all you want. Las Vegas is Harry Reid territory.

  And frankly, this is just shoddy work independent of party. You look ludicrous trying to tie it to “conservatives”. Get a life, it’s not ALL about politics.

• 7. southerner  |  March 10th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

  Kahn,

  Once again you seem to have completely missed the point. Oversight of medical practices such as these is not a matter for local agencies, it is a federal matter - that’s why we have organizations like the FDA. Perhaps you should go back to commenting about things you know more about, such as your belief that the Book of Revelation is not in the ‘Catholic’ Bible (whatever that is).

  PS - The Bush administration has systematically culled the regulatory budget of agencies such as the FDA over the past 7 years:

  Report: FDA so underfunded, consumers are put at risk

  The result is stories like this or the recent disgusting revelations about the meat processing plant in California which resulted in the biggest meat callback in this nation’s history. But of course conservative dogma says that the ‘market’ will solve every problem and we don’t need regulation. The dogma says that so it must be so, right? So keep up the ‘permanent tax cuts’ (for our nation’s wealthiest citizens) and bedamned to any level of decent public services. Hey, rich people can buy bottled Perrier so why should we even bother to check that the water supply is safe? You see what happens when you allow ideology to trump common sense in government? Yes, market-oriented conservatism and non-regulation of the medical industry is just peachy, tell that to the parent of a thalidimide baby if you ever meet one. And maybe start to run before you finish the sentence.

• 8. Kahn  |  March 10th, 2008 at 6:11 pm

  The FDA does not regulate individual doctors and clinics. Perhaps you should go back to commenting about things you know more about.

• 9. southerner  |  March 10th, 2008 at 6:31 pm

  Kahn,

  I didn’t say the FDA had a say over this particular issue, I said it’s a matter for federal agencies. Could that be why a little organization known as the FBI is investigating this case? (Any ideas what the F in FBI stands for Kahn?). And do you also think that the meat processing plant in California was also a local matter and not one for the USDA and FDA? And finally, the matter in Nevada is being investiaged as a statewide investigation, it involves three clinics in northern Nevada and only one in Las Vegas. The governor of Nevada is republican, so why aren’t you blaming him?

• 10. Kahn  |  March 10th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

  southerner, in Virginia where I live the state regulates doctors, They are licensed by the state. In fact, a friend of mine heads the team of investigators who look into malpractice. The state regulates these places - not the Federal government.

• 11. southerner  |  March 10th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

  Good for you and Virginia Kahn, however the doctors in these clinics were admnistering federally funded programs, that makes it ultimately a responsibility of the federal government and is why the feds are investigating. We got in to this little conflab due to you ridiculously pointing out that since Las Vegas was “strongly democratic” the democrats were somehow to blame. You obviously didn’t realilze that this is a STATEWIDE problem and that it is being investigated by federal authorities for abuses that go far beyond the local level, thus a lack of federal regulation can be fairly stated to be relevant here. The fact that some democrats may choose live in the area served by ONE of the FOUR clinics is not relevant, but yet you saw fit to post about it and crow about the liberal posters on this blog therefore being idiots. I think it’s pretty obvious who the idiot is here Kahn (clue, it might be the person who routinely posts about the Bible and Religion, etc and then makes the claim that the Book of Revelation isn’t in the Bible).

• 12. FmrMarine  |  March 10th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

  penis;

  >>>>>the Bush administration has packed the FDA with “profit loving cronies”?<<<<

  IMAGINE that, a profit…WOW…….how………terrible!

  You marxist lunatics who post here need to move to france or russia.
  CRIMINALS break the LAW for monetary gain…imagine that. It isnt about “profits” it is about illegal acts for monetary gain…what idiots.

• 13. Kahn  |  March 10th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

  southerner,

  First off, take a chill pill - your posts drip with hatred and it’s not healthy. Eventually, even other liberals will think your just a bitter a**hole.

  Every doctor who gets paid by Medicaid or Medicare or the military medical insurance falls under those rules. Every doctor problem is not a Federal problem. And every legal action is not entwined in your bitter politics.

  AND, guess what - these actions were and are illegal and ARE being investigated by the proper authorities. Do you think Republicans can PREVENT criminal acts? If so, why didn’t your party PREVENT the ENRON frauds uncovered by the Republican administration?

  But as to how Virginia does it. If your state doesn’t regulate its own doctors in a similar way, then no-one is doing it at all.

  I reject your hatred.

• 14. Mark Noonan  |  March 10th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

  Geesh, talk about waaaaaay the heck off topic…

• 15. southerner  |  March 11th, 2008 at 12:14 am

  Deleted - off topic; really, everything doesn’t have to be cast in a “GOP vs Democrat” light, southerner…you’re getting obssessive and mighty boring…

• 16. southerner  |  March 11th, 2008 at 12:46 am

  Deleted - off topic, complains about comment policy.

• 17. southerner  |  March 11th, 2008 at 12:52 am

  Deleted - off topic,mendacious.

• 18. southerner  |  March 11th, 2008 at 12:57 am

  Mark, in post 16 I did not complain about the comments policy, I complained about the fact that you deleted my comment for being off-topic when it so clearly was on topic. Why don’t you man-up and admit you made a mistake and re-instate my original comment? Otherwise just answer my question regarding why you haven’t deleted all the other comments above mine that don’t even befin to approach the topic. Is this what you’re reduced to now, outright censorship? Would you be pleased if I was to post this series of posts in another forum? I have em all in the cache, so once again I will ask you to be reasonable and either re-instate my comment or otherwise explain in what sense it was off-topic. And please do not tell me that this is a complaint about your comments policy, I have no idea what your comments policy even is. This is just a question of not wielding your power to censor or delete arbitrarily.

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