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• 1. Aaron  |  March 11th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

  Obama is a Christian, and has been going to the same church for decades. Unlike Hillary Clinton, Obama didn’t just try on Christian clothes for political expediency - he was a Christian long before he ever went near politics.

  You folks on the Right are supposed to like that short of thing - no? You can have all of the policy disputes you want with Obama - that’s all fair. But whatever your ideological differences with him, his Christian faith is unquestionably genuine.

• 2. Barack Obama Chronicles &&hellip  |  March 11th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

  [...] Blogs For Victory created an interesting post today on The Insidious Plot of Hillary Clinton? [...]

• 3. Michael  |  March 11th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

  This insidious plot to which you refer is normal operating procedures for the Clintons. This is how they drag people down into the gutter where they know how to fight dirty and where people like Obama prefer to avoid. But unanswered charges and claims, even those just hinted at, like “at least I think he is (a Christian), and all the racial and sexist slurs have their collective effect at hacking away at Obama. It makes him look weak. If he tries to answer the vicious attacks, the Clintons cry foul or come back with a worse charge or rumor. Hillary’s strategy has Obama confused about how to rise above it and get back on his successful message of hope and change. He better figure it out soon or when it comes time to divide up the delegates and pick a nominee, Obama will lose.

• 4. FmrMarine  |  March 11th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

  For once believe a democrat,
  ferraro is 100% on the money.
  The “media” would have crucified a white lightweight, empty suit like earbama long ago.

  aron
  >>>>>Obama is a Christian, and has been going to the same church for decades. Unlike Hillary Clinton, Obama didn’t just try on Christian clothes for political expediency - he was a Christian long before he ever went near politics.<<<<

  Actually it is more of a racist cult, than a “church” whose “minister” has close ties with the nation of islam and, louis fartacan.

  Trinity United Church of Christ
  About Us
  We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.
  Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:
  1. Commitment to God
  2. Commitment to the Black Community
  3. Commitment to the Black Family
  4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
  5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
  6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
  7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
  8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
  9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
  10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
  11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
  12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

• 5. Freedom1  |  March 11th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

  Revisiting Obama’s Church - Investor’s Business Daily

  Campaign 2008: Trying to reassure voters confused over his faith, Barack Obama says he’s Christian, and that Americans would feel right at home at his Chicago church. We seriously doubt that last part.

  Obama says he’s tired of answering questions about his religion. At a rally in rural Ohio, he was asked again about rumors that he’s a Muslim, which have only obscured from public view his real faith, which is no less troubling. [...] …it’s where he goes to church that should give American voters pause.

  Obama embraced more than Christ when he answered the altar call two decades ago at the Trinity United Church of Christ in Southside Chicago. The 8,000-member church describes itself as “unashamedly black” and holds classes in “African-centered Bible study.” He also pledged to honor something called the “Black Value System,” a cultlike code of nonbiblical ethics written by blacks for blacks. It preaches a radically exclusive theology that contradicts the tenets of Christianity.

  Black members are encouraged to pursue education and skills exclusively to advance their community, and allocate their money exclusively to support “black institutions” and black leaders who “embrace the Black Value System.”

  In short, it preaches from the gospel of blackness and black power. There’s little room for white Christians at Obama’s church. It attacks the pursuit of “middleclassness” (code for whiteness), arguing that middleclassness is a conspiracy by white leaders to keep talented African-Americans “captives.” Trinity warns them not to be seduced by it, even though millions of blacks have benefited from homeownership and crime-free suburban living.

  Obama, meanwhile, has been getting in touch with his African roots. He recently visited relatives in Kenya for the first time, and dropped the nickname Barry for the more African-sounding Barack.

  “I believe in the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change,” he recently asserted. He said his faith has also led him to question the idolatry of the free market. This reflects Trinity church doctrine that no African-American can really rise to the top echelons of a “racist, competitive” white society on merit.

  Obama, in turn, calls the dashiki-wearing pastor of this militantly black church his “spiritual adviser” and mentor. “It was the best education I ever had,” he has said of his indoctrination by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. He sought Wright’s counsel before running for president. Wright married him and baptized his daughters. Obama borrowed the title of his memoir “Audacity of Hope” from a Wright sermon.

  (cont.)…

• 6. Freedom1  |  March 11th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

  IBD article continued…

  Their close relationship is especially disturbing. By any objective measure, Wright is an America-hating race-monger. He blames practically every ill on “white America,” including 9/11. Just this past November, he honored bigoted Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan with a “lifetime achievement” award presented in Wright’s name. Wright gushed in a cover profile of Farrakhan in his church’s magazine that his old pal Farrakhan — who has bashed whites as “blue-eyed devils” and Jews as “bloodsuckers” — should be a model for blacks because he “truly epitomized greatness.”

  In the ’80s, the two traveled to Libya together to pay homage to terrorist Muammar Qaddafi.

  Farrakhan last month endorsed Obama. While the Democratic front-runner distanced himself from Farrakhan, albeit belatedly and under media pressure, he still has not distanced himself from Wright.

  Obama says he respects his preacher and is “proud” of their friendship, as well as his church, which proclaims: “We are an African people, and remain true to our native land, the mother continent.” In a 2006 interview with BeliefNet.com, Obama called Wright “one of the greatest preachers in the country.”

  The Trinity Web site greets visitors with an image of the African continent and the sound of congo drums. Trinitarians, it explains, have a “nonnegotiable commitment to Africa.” What about America? It gets no mention.

  Do such beliefs translate into a political agenda tailored to African-Americans? Would fellow Trinitarian Obama, despite his agreeably race-neutral and nonthreatening public persona, govern and petition on behalf of one group and not necessarily for the greater good of this country?

  Obama recently promised a black newspaper in Michigan that Africa will be “my priority” as president. “I think that the U.S. has to see its long-term interest wrapped up in the success of Africa,” he said.

  Hillary Clinton calculates that Obama’s childhood brushes with Islam will make Americans nervous. But it’s his adult conversion to black nationalism and socialism that makes this otherwise attractive minority candidate unfortunately so unattractive.

• 7. Faceplant  |  March 11th, 2008 at 9:30 pm

  “Things were pretty quiet on the Obama front until Obama started to win, and then we here in the blogophere started to get deluged with all sorts of things about Obama related to his religion and ethnic background. Who was the person who went about digging all this stuff up?”

  Oh, I don’t know Marky.

  “STEVE DOOCY: Why didn’t anybody ever mention that that man right there was raised — spent the first decade of his life, raised by his Muslim father — as a Muslim and was educated in a madrassa?”

  “http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286″

  http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/28/kingston-caught-without-american-flag-lapel-pin/

  http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/08/steve-king-record/

  “(Fox News’ John) Gibson wanted to be sure the viewers understood the implications of the Madrassa/Obama connection but avoided taking responsibility of suggesting a terrorist link. Instead he explained how Americans would feel about the news.

  “Americans have a visceral reaction to the word madrassa. In our world a madrassa is where zealots train young Muslim kids to hate America, to hate the West, and to be killers. Saying Obama attended a madrassa is tying Obama’s name to terrorism.”

  To cover his own butt, Gibson admitted that Obama had openly written in his book that he had attended a Muslim school as a child in Indonesia. Gibson then embellished Obama’s words.

  “Obama himself has said in his own book that he attended a predominantly Muslim school as a youngster in Indonesia — translation: madrassa.”

  Gee, Marky? Where could these smears EVER have come from?

• 8. tom  |  March 11th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

  Hillary wants the job so badly, she and her ilk will throw out anything to see if it sticks.

  The Clintons are like Jason, just when you think they are dead and gone, they rise up and come at you with a pitch fork.