Clintonite Kossacks Getting a Taste of Kossack Love
March 15th, 2008 at 08:24pm Mark Noonan
Too bad it took them this long to figure out that Daily Kos is nothing but a hate-mongering website:
On Friday, it got to be too much for Alegre, a diarist on the flagship liberal blog DailyKos, who frequently writes in support of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“I’ve put up with the abuse and anger because I’ve always believed in what our online community has tried to accomplish in this world,” Alegre wrote Friday evening. “No more.”
Objecting to the tone of attacks against Mrs. Clinton and her supporters on the blog, the diarist called for a “writers strike.”
“This is a strike - a walkout over unfair writing conditions at DailyKos. It does not mean that if conditions get better I won’t ‘work’’ at DailyKos again,” Alegre wrote, promising to come back only “if we ever get to the point where we’re engaging each other in discussion rather than facing off in shouting matches.”The blogosphere has never been known for its polite, gentle discourse, and while fiercely partisan, being a Democrat does not make one immune from attacks from the lefty blogs (see Lieberman, Joseph I.). But now, the major internal divisions within the Democratic Party seem to be splitting liberal bloggers. So what happens when the unity enforcement mechanism becomes disjointed?
Alegre’s post attracted a strong reaction, both negative and positive. The comment board was shut down about 5.5 hours after it was posted, with 1258 comments.
Once upon a time a Kossack suggested that I be strung up from a lamp post with a meathook - my crime? Not being a lefty. How anyone could voluntarily subject themselves daily to the nauseating hatred at Daily Kos (as well as at Democratic Underground and other lefty hate sites) is beyond me - I don’t understand it, and don’t want to understand it. I just wish the people who go to such places would wise up and realise that hatred is a poison which mostly works against those who hate.
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25 Comments
1. phnx | March 15th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
The current dispute at KOS sounds like the Palestinians two warring factions, Hamas and the PLO. They are too busy killing each other to present a united and effective political force. They are only point of agreement is their hatred.
2. Diana Powe | March 15th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Who was this person at Daily Kos who wanted you strung up? That was a vile thing to say, in truth. However, was this Markos Moulitsas or any of the people listed as contributing editors or featured writers or are you basing this specious claim on someone that has no more status around Daily Kos than I do here at Blogs For Victo(r)y? Do you, Mark Noonan, personally and completely agree with absolutely every aspect of every blog comment that generally agrees with your conservative point of view here? If so, you’ve got some hatred problems of your own.
3. phnx | March 15th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Diana your feeble attempt at diversion is laughable. Unlike KOS, B4V tolerates dissenting political opinions. Your posts prove the point. KOS, far from tolerating dissenting opinions from conservatives or republicans, is strictly a leftist domain. A full scale war between Obama and Clinton supporters has been raging there for quite some time…and its only gotten worse. Like it or not, its a reflection of what is happening across the country as your party divides into warring camps, based on the identity politics that have been the meat and potatos of the democrats. You reap what you sew. You party is now reaping a bitter harvest.
4. Michael | March 15th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Snakes start biting each other in the snake pit? What’s next, Huffpo?
5. Pain | March 15th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
1. phnx | March 15th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
The current dispute at KOS sounds like the Palestinians two warring factions, Hamas and the PLO.
We think you mean Hamas [Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiyya] and Fatah [Harakat al-Tahrir al-Watani al-Filastini ] with Fatah being the largest bloc within the PLO but not the entirety of the PLO.
6. bongoman | March 15th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Go hang out at LGF - you’ll see far worse incitements to violence over there towards those they disagree with.
7. Diana Powe | March 15th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Deleted - complains about comment policy.
8. Obama08 | March 16th, 2008 at 2:47 am
Deleted - complains about comment policy.
9. NebraskaMilitia | March 16th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Looks like the KozKids are ready to abort the Clinton crime syndicate in favor of Barack (middle name deleted) Obama. The leftist’s have supported the Clintons through numerous scandals and scams. They knew the Clinton’s were trailer trash politicians but, continued to defend them anyways.
Allegre you are getting a taste of your own exilir of hate. Drink up…you now must support the one whose middle name we can not speak.
10. Marty13 | March 16th, 2008 at 10:49 am
7. Diana Powe | March 15th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Deleted - complains about comment policy.
8. Obama08 | March 16th, 2008 at 2:47 am
Deleted - complains about comment policy.
This is Mark’s idea of a joke right??? No irony here?
11. Marty13 | March 16th, 2008 at 10:53 am
“Once upon a time a Kossack suggested that I be strung up from a lamp post with a meathook - my crime? Not being a lefty.”
Why does this statement have such a Tawana Braley-feel to it?
12. FmrMarine | March 16th, 2008 at 11:42 am
This is easy
liberalism = marxism =athiesim=hate.
Sit back and watch the party of crime, and hate self destruct.
13. Michael | March 16th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
All we are saying,
Is give peace a chance.
Hahahaha
14. LiberalNitemare | March 16th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
The liberal math works out this way.
If you dont support Barack Hussien Obama you are a rascist.
If you dont support Hillary Clinton you are a misogynist.
Kinda makes me wonder why Cynthia McKinney didnt do better.
15. Pain | March 16th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
neoconservatism=bloodlust=racism=Christianity as political ideology=hate
We, Ourselves, think you are away now FmrMarine.
16. Almiranta | March 16th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Diana, you need to get a better dictionary. A “specious claim” is one that is not true. Mark’s reference WAS true—someone DID make that comment. If you are trying to shift the onus of such a comment away from the overall Lib commentary and claim it was a rogue Lib who slipped in and planted an unusually vile suggestion, then say so.
But it is in line with so much of the vitriol we routinely see from the rabid Left.
I have often commented that it has seemed that the far Left, the radical Left, seems to court, encourage and validate certain personality characteristics that are, shall I say, far less acceptable in other areas of life—anger and paranoia being among the top few. We see that daily here, as you radical Lefties charge in here, uninvited, to dump your loads of vitriol.
We have seen it on other blogs, on other sites, as some of them seem to be constructed specifically for the purpose of encouraging this type of othewise unacceptable behavior. It is funny to see that some of those on the most notorious of these sites, the Daily Kos, are now turning that nastiness on each other.
I can certainly see that if you were to routinely express such unpleasant aspects of yourselves in your daily life you would be very isolated and lonely in a short time, so maybe this blog and others like it provide you with a place where you can deposit the less attractive and acceptable aspects of yourselves without having to pay much of a price in your personal lives.
But you are wrong in your assumptions and your claims, regarding conservatives. You can stick to your fantasies, you can vent all you want to, you can continue to give us unasked-for and unpleasant glimpses into your own psyches, but you are wrong. And all the whining and bitching and moaning and complaining and attacking and insulting you can come up with will not change the fact that YOU ARE WRONG.
I read the conservative posts here, and I can say with absolute certainty that the posts I see here, or at least 99.999% of them, are simply expressions of sincerely held philosophical and political viewpoints—not expressions of hate, examples of hypocrisy, or any of the other nasty things you love to accuse us of. Or expressions of frustration at having to put up with the various droppings of those who insist on polluting this site.
So either talk issues, just issues, real issues, or go away. There are sites which want you and your bile. We don’t.
17. FmrMarine | March 16th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
>>>neoconservatism=bloodlust=racism=Christianity as political ideology=hate<<<
Total BS
go back and learn history if you are capable.
18. Pain | March 16th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
We feel that is an accurate account Fmr Marine and it is neither BS nor unlearned.
We can account for the slaughter that the Christian religion has brought forth on Terra by a study and recitation of history. Much of that was based on racial identity and now neoconservatives have allied with vehement Christian advocates of “family values” which is code for a racial privilege ethic rooted in the hatred of Liberal causes such as access to safe abortions, marriage extended to gays and lesbians and the end to the sensless war in Iraq.
We see no error in this line of thinking.
19. FmrMarine | March 16th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
>>>Liberal causes such as access to safe abortions, marriage extended to gays and lesbians and the end to the sensless war in Iraq.<<<
AHH
Finally the TRUTH slips out.
How are things at nambla & GLT
20. OhioOrrin | March 16th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I was banned from kos when I noted that Lt Kerry comitted perjury when he knowingly gave false sworn testimony before congress during the “winter soldier” investigation.
I wrote that I would NOT vote 4 anybody who slanders vets & will not retract, correct, nor apologise.
Then I was banned & came 2 B4V where free discourse is encouraged.
21. Diane Tomlinson | March 16th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
That’s not a slip FM those are Progressive political beliefs.
NAMBLA illegal and beyond the pale and it’s GLBT btw. I’m an L!
22. Almiranta | March 16th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Pain claims:
“neoconservatism=bloodlust=racism=Christianity as political ideology=hate”
Oooh, ick, what a nasty peek into a nasty mentality! I’ve come to the conclusion that the moniker “Pain” is very accurate, representing the agony of having to live inside that kind of brain. Hey, seeing you from the outside ain’t no picnic, either.
No one knows what “neoconservatism” is, or is supposed to be. It started as a name for people like me, who were newly disenchanted with the liberal movement, having finally realized that the emperor had no clothes. It’s since been used to describe various approaches to conservatism, such as being more accepting of increased spending and/or larger government. One would think that if radical Libs had the slightest interest in fairness, that last characteristic would make then LIKE “neocons” but in fact, typical of such fantatical cultists, they have glommed onto a word without any idea of what it really means, and adopted it as a perjorative.
“bloodlust” Oh, get real. This hysterical melodrama is simply silly. If you had any pride at all, you would not be so eager to strut your ignorance.
But then you wouldn’t be a radical Lefty, either.
“racism”—as in declaring that some races just can’t make it without the help of the more advanced or competent races, and must therefore be given special treatment and lowered standards? As in damning white people in the 21st century for what a very few white people did in the 18th and 19th centuries, with the help of black people? As in the habit of attributing various characteristics to groups of people based solely on the color of their skin? You mean like the Democrat Party does every day?
“Christianity as political ideology”–as in saying “God damn America” is in the Bible? As in using the guise of religion to preach hate and divisiveness and anti-Americanism?
“hate”—as in the only definition for everything that comes out of that sad and painful “brain” of yours?
Pain, I am sorry for you. To have to live in that psyche must be a sentence of sheer hell. But please don’t subject us to your hate-filled delusions.
Somewhere, there is a place for you. Somewhere on the far far Left, where they seek out such as you to send out as intellectual cannon fodder, you will find people who will praise your mental droppings and tell you you are fine.
But not here. Here you are held to standards of truth, reasonableness, and accuracy.
…………………
Diane, to describe the radical Left as PROgressive is Orwellian in the extreme. It is a frantic effort to REgress to the bad old days of Socialism, in all its gritty misery.
While NAMBLA is promoting an illegal act, it itself is not illegal, and in fact has the support of the ACLU, that beloved bastion of “Progressive” thought.
I’ve known many Ls who were simply L and not using it as part of some self-indulgent socio-political rampage. I’ve always been intruigued by the determination of some to link sexual orientation to radical politics. I’m also fascinated by the determination of the politically radical homosexual element to hijack a word (”marriage”) so important, culturally and historically and religiously, to so many, to redefine it. That reeks of such hatred and resentment, it is really creepy. And it clearly has nothing whatsoever to do with rights or dignity or any of that, as the legal rights are available without the pretense that a word means something it doesn’t.
And by the way, abortions are NEVER “safe” for 50% of those involved. In fact, they are inevitably fatal. And for the 50% who survive, physically, there is still a lot of danger of emotional, psychological, and spiritual damage. Killing kids does have a downside, in spite of the efforts of the radical Left to make it seem normal.
23. phil | March 16th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Deleted - mindless insults.
24. Pain | March 16th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Deleted - of topic.
25. Ford | March 17th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
I know this is a bit OT - but if you have some actual empirical evidence to back this up - I’d be interested in learning more.