Barack Obama: Hypocrite
March 19th, 2008 at 07:22am Mark Noonan
The more we learn, the less we like:
Barack Obama had been a presidential candidate for more than a year before he outright repudiated his long-time pastor for racially charged, anti-U.S. sermons. But when talk show host Don Imus was in hot water 11 months ago for racially insensitive comments, Obama was the first candidate to call for his firing.
When asked about the different responses to his pastor and to Imus, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor questioned the premise of the comparison and defended Obama’s response in each case.
“He spoke out both times, so it’s entirely consistent,” he told FOXNews.com Tuesday.
Obama’s people must think we’re all idiots - or, knowing that for now only the lefties matter (ie, for the nomination) they realise that idiocy will go over well with their core supporters, and they figure the rest of us will forget this stuff by September. “Spoke out both times” doesn’t cut it, Vietor…he called for Imus to be fired for a poorly crafted joke…Wright goes on endless, racist, anti-American rants and Obama de-facto says he’s just a bit out there from time to time…
hyp·o·crite - noun - 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
Or, failing that, just a picture of Obama will do…
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Corruption, Democrats
99 Comments Add your own
1. OhioOrrin | March 19th, 2008 at 7:28 am
ear bama’s got to dissavow every word he never heard! (nuck, nuck, nuck…)
ooo, I know - he slept thru all the sermons!
wait, can’t say that cause Hillary will say “not even I sleep thru all the sermons”.
2. Christian Wright | March 19th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Yesterday, McCain was asked about this Wright controversy and he defended Obama.
McCain said that just because someone supports you, it does not mean you support everything that supporter said.
For all his failings, McCain is a good man and a class act. You guys should learn from him.
3. js | March 19th, 2008 at 7:49 am
Noone in thier right minds would elect a racist into the office of the POTUS. I doubt you would find McCain endorsing that idea.
Then again, McCain didnt tithe at the Trinity Church for two decades either, and didnt get married in a racist church. He probably doesnt send his children to learn about white power at that same church either.
I guess who Obama is, and not who supports him, is just far more important, eh?
4. Diane Tomlinson | March 19th, 2008 at 7:52 am
This might upset you a little but I have no idea how you of all people can call Barack Obama a hypocrite. Let’s make this about religion and politics not personal, okay. I imagine you are a nice guy Noonan you probably bar b q a mean steak and can carry on a good convo, but let’s put that aside and see just how hypocritical the right wing can be.
Do I need to point to how many people in right wing or should I say white wing Baptist churches there are who abuse kids and try to cover it up? Should I go on to the number of moral failures that teach in Christian school and get away with abuse because the schools have “forgiven” the molester? How about the Universal Catholic Church or do we even need to go into the known half century of blaming victims for their own victimization?
But when a black preacher calls white America the American my blue eyed brown haired butt belonged to for 28 years in the whiter than white suburbs of Des Moines Iowa to task for their inherited injustices against blacks suddenly all that goes out of the window. And do you know why because the uttering of the slur that all of you want to call Barack Obama means he has ascended the moral high ground and means that you forfeit your right to civilized discourse.
How dare you accuse Barack Obama of hypocrisy when men like Donohue roam Terra with their 15th Century notions of religion trumping all things in society. Hell is paved with men like him and will be repaved with a billion more who sit in pews on Sunday or go to mass and then come out of that sacred building only to think and speak and act ill toward their fellow man.
The hypocrisy Noonan is being so vain as to think that somehow you and those who think and act like deserve salvation. As if because you utter some words and decide to find contempt in people because they don’t have sex in the way your religious leaders say they should then well they are damned and you are elect? What a cop out! I’ve even read where some Christians are so deluded that they think their own kin who have killed themselves are going to be saved! Talk about hypocrites because they have loved someone who has committed the ultimate sin does not absolve them. There is not one shred of evidence a Living Man can offer me that would allow for a reasonable debate about the matter because until you see what happens to the suicides here in Hell there can be no point of reference. But let me tell you one thing brother, Hell is very, very cruel to your kind and I’ll be saving a place for you.
This is just politics and there are far more serious matters than this but to call someone out as a hypocrite because you have nothing else you can do except make polarizing racial slurs well I think you’ve lost already because you and the sheeple haven’t the number to fight an agent of real change.
How about them apples!
5. js | March 19th, 2008 at 8:18 am
WHy do you take so many words to say so little Diane?
Its pretty simple. If you just turn the Trinity Church around, and replace the word black, with white, the Church would be the subject of law suits for discrimination and hate speech. At the minimum, using white power as a religious platform would bring sufficient indignation against the church so as to distinctly identify its activities as such.
The truth is that black supremacy is not Christian, it is not found in the Bible, and it is not something that goes on for 20 years right under your nose, and you dont know about it. Its like being a full fledged member of the KKK and paying thier dues, and claiming that you have no idea that you belonged to a racist organization. How do you tell you children, after they have attended this Church for thier entire lives, that the message they teach there is wrong? Equality, not superiority, is what we find in Jesus.
6. Barack Obama: Hypocrite&hellip | March 19th, 2008 at 8:20 am
[…] Continue Reading […]
7. bongoman | March 19th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Well said Diane.
The irony in all of this is that amidst the denigration and the criticism, Obama appears way more Christian than any of his attackers.
8. bongoman | March 19th, 2008 at 8:23 am
js, did you listen to what Obama said today? Actually listen to the content?
9. js | March 19th, 2008 at 8:39 am
He didnt write it bongman.
He didnt erase his past either. He attended that church for over 20 years. Two Decades.
The truth is, you probably listened to the speech. You probably read the speech. You also heard only what they wanted you to hear.
I can guarantee you, it was not the whole truth.
10. js | March 19th, 2008 at 8:43 am
take this for example
indians are discriminated in this nation far worse than blacks, when has this trinity church, or obama for that matter, show thier history defending indians?
wake up people, words without the truth are hollow, they dont have real meaning, and can be used to manipulate the minds of those who are weak, like obama does
11. hermie | March 19th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Obama didn’t take Wright’s racist words on…he justified them…and compared Wright to his white grandmother, who would definitely be called a racist today.
Before you say that well, that was in the past and Obama was just making a comparison of the past to the present…Wright and his church are continuing to make these kinds of statements today…not 1950, 1960 or even 1970. It’s an established philosophy which Obama apparently cannot hear or comprehend, and has no problem of indoctrinating his children with these bitter and hateful words.
12. DM | March 19th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Sorry bongoman, his actions speak so loud I cannot hear the words he says. Why would you listen to a person tell you one thing when his actions blatantly tell you something else. Clearly this IS hypocrisy.
DT, discussing others shortcomings or failings does not make Obama a better person or right. Are you defending his actions and the teachings of his pastor? Says a lot about you.
13. SEW | March 19th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Clearly Obama’s useful idiots are still useful.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/03/19/obamas_speech
14. Aaron | March 19th, 2008 at 9:31 am
hmmmm. I have yet to hear W disavow remarks from his pal Pat Robertson saying 9/11 was God’s revenge on the US.
Why is Pat Robertson even allowed on TV?
15. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 9:51 am
This blog is a friggin’ train wreck.
js: Every other sentence out of you on every post now is “he attended the church of 20 years”.
So what?
DM: “his actions speak so loud I can not hear his words”. Maybe try instead of closing your mind because there is a ‘D’ after his name.
16. js | March 19th, 2008 at 9:56 am
so now you resort to making up lies joe?
thats why the train wrecked, because people like you just never grew up…..
i really have no use for you, or any of the other 3 stooges
17. Baxter Greene | March 19th, 2008 at 10:00 am
It is almost hilarious to watch liberals bend over
backwards to defend a man who spent 20 years supporting racism and bigotry coming from the pulpit
and nodded his head in support when fact less conspiracies like the government infected the black
community with aids and we were responsible for 9/11.
Obama states that he was not present when comments like these were made and then admits in
his speech that he has been there during the “it’s all
whitey’s fault” words of wisdom from the messenger
of hope.
It is joke to try this moral equivalence between the
bigotry coming from Obama’s reverend and the Catholic/Baptist church’s.
No one sitting in the pews of the Catholic church knew or supported their priest and any crimes against children.The priests who helped them move
around were either prosecuted or run out.The church has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in restitution.
If a baptist or any other church hurled bigoted or anti-American remarks from the pulpit,the congregation can make the choice if they want to stay and support such idiocy.
Your candidate of “Hope”,and “Change” made his decision to stay and support such bigotry.
Please liberal,show me a church who’s leader gets
his inspiration from theology such as this:
In a set of “talking points” on the church’s Web site, Wright proclaims himself an exponent of “black liberation theology.” He cites James Cone, a distinguished professor at New York’s Union Theological Seminary, whom he credits for having “systematized” this strain of Christianity.
Here is a quote from Cone, explaining black liberation theology (hat tip: Spengler, a pseudonymous columnist for the Asia Times):
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
Could Obama really have been unaware for all these years that his spiritual mentor follows a racially adversarial theology, one that demands of God that he be “for us and against white people” and that he participate “in the destruction of the white enemy”? It doesn’t exactly sound like the sort of change we can believe in.
Wall St. Journal March 18,2008
James Toranto
Absolutely un-believable to watch liberals get all upset if someone says Merry Christmas or displays
Gasp!!
a manger scene in a park or school or the word God
on money or in the Pledge of Allegiance and then
defend racism right in front of their faces.
Liberals have no problem with War,Racism,and violence as long as it fits their ideology and advances
them politically.
18. SEW | March 19th, 2008 at 10:16 am
js, Go easy on Joe. He would also stick up for McCain if McCain’s spiritual advisor and pastor had been David Duke for 20 years.
So what? ??????
19. Canadian Observer | March 19th, 2008 at 10:29 am
10. js | March 19th, 2008 at 8:43 am
take this for example
indians are discriminated in this nation far worse than blacks, when has this trinity church, or obama for that matter, show thier history defending indians?
——————————————-
As horrific and indefensible the treatment of Native Americans was, js, they, as human beings, were not considered to be property of their white masters who were brought to the U.S. in chains and forced into generations of slavery.
You are caught up in a frenzy of hatred that now seems to have enveloped those Americans who have conveniently forgotten their terrible legacy.
If you want to progress as a respected country, you need to put aside your predjudices and embrace a new future with the possibility of having an individual with great vision take over the reins from a failed and fallow administration.
20. Diane Tomlinson | March 19th, 2008 at 10:33 am
I see it this way.
If anyone here tells the truth about catholic pederasty the comment gets deleted because Mark’s feelings are hurt. If you say that 9/11 and all the deaths and destruction were blowback for poor American foreign policy since Nixon you get deleted because 9/11 is such a weepy open sore on the American backside. If you say anything about the racism of white Americans that started with slavery and continues in places like Jena, LA you get deleted because it just gets on Leo’s nerves.
When will this ever end? Well I’ll tell ya it ends when a man like Barack Obama can go before a podium and speak his mind about an issue that makes black Americans angry and white Americans uncomfortable and that is the divide of race. There is a divide because for so long it was law that whites were superior and had to be treated as such by not only blacks but everyone else including white women like me. But having lost the status as Master of All they survey Obama tapped into the frustration that I hear in every one of SEW’s posts and those of js and those of Baxter Greene, Freedom 1 and Mark and Leo. It really kinda sucks to be white these days and in America because all you can do is eat that crap sandwich of just being a middle class white guy or gal and nothing more powerful than anyone else or go hungry and throw away the lifestyles you all love by speaking out about how you really feel your race is superior in intellect, culture and advancement.
But you know your ancestors threw away your right to do that when they saw Birth of Nation and joined the Klan and kept their women barefoot and pregnant in the early years of the 20th Century. You knew before you were born that this day would come when your brothers turned hoses and set angry dogs on black children marching for their parent’s inalienable civil rights in Birmingham. And when the second tower collapsed it was like living a nightmare you’d had at Antietam and at Vicksburg and at Gettysburg all over again. And after the Middle Passage cost 10 000 000 black Souls and the slaughter of the Native Americans and the brutal treatment of women of your own race and the servitude of children in your factories until it became intolerable in the 20th Century I find myself forced to ask the same question that Reverend Jeremiah Wright said, “And now you’re indignant?”
For the benefit of Baxter Greene, I’ll quote Dr Cornel West another strong black voice who advises Barack Obama on matters spiritual, from his well received book, Democracy Matters: Winning the Fight Against Imperialism, “When conservative Christians argue today for state sponsored religious schools, when they throw their tacit or more overt support behind antiabortion zealots or homophobic crusaders who preach hatred (a few have even killed in the name of their belief), they are being Constantinian Christians. [They] fail to appreciate their violation of Christian love and justice because Constantinian Christianity in America places such a strong emphasis on personal conversion, individual piety, and philanthropic service and has lost its fervor for the suspicion of worldly authorities and for doing justice in the service of the most vulnerable among us, which are central to the faith. These energies are rendered marginal to their Christian identity.”
21. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 10:40 am
HA HA HA… damn you are funny. “Stooges”. Whew. You are a funny one.
lies js? You brought up the 20 years comment in post #5 and post #9. And this thread is still young.
In the “chickens coming home to roost” thread, the fact that he has been a member of the church for 20 years was in the main post by Mark.
In that thread, you people brought it up in posts
#17
#25 (twice)
#37
#49
#60
#66
#69
#70 (twice)
#88
#95
#120
#139
#152
#162
So yes. You people are friggin’ obsessed with this issue.
I’ll type slow so you can understand…
Has Obama ever make any comment that you would consider racist? Is his pastor running for office? Go thru all his sermons and lets find out how many are racist and how many are not. But nope… you clowns are jacked up in one or two sermons that you’ve heard.
This should be about policies and not guilt by association.
22. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 10:47 am
It really is strange to me how people advocate that racism is dead. I mean Just LAST YEAR there was a huge protest. Does anyone remember the Gena 6? If not heres a link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/03/AR2007080302098.html
23. Diane Tomlinson | March 19th, 2008 at 10:55 am
As a white woman Joe I know that it is the truth that if you tell fearful or ignorant white people a lie over and over again they’ll call it a new Gospel in a couple days.
24. Macker | March 19th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Two items of note regarding Obama’s speech:
1) He doesn’t say s**t about HOW he will address solving our race issues. And the onus is on Whitey to provide more handouts. I call bulls**t on that.
2) Second, there is absolutely no mention at all of either “God Bless America” or “God Bless You” to end his speech. I guess that means Barack Hussein Obama also wants God to damn America. Yep, he’s still playing the Race Card.
25. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Macker, you missed the memo… people are over the “Hussein” part of Barack’s name. That is so last week. The righties are onto his pastor now.
By the way… my middle name is Anthony. Does that mean that I support the mafia????
26. Macker | March 19th, 2008 at 11:10 am
I don’t give a rat’s a** what you think Joe, I’m not a member of the MSM and never will be.
Besides…whether you like it or not, since Obama’s father was a Muslim, he is considered as such by the Islamofascists, and an apostate at that.
27. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 11:12 am
If Obama is a Muslim, why is everyone so upset about his CATHOLIC church?
28. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 11:15 am
So he’s a Muslim who follows every word his Christian pastor of 20 YEARS tells him. I also heard he eats the heads off of bats…
29. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Sounds like Macker needs to get up to speed. Obama isn’t a Muslim and his middle name doesn’t matter.
Of course those two things are still very important and do matter if you are a simple-minded fool that is hiding under your bed from the big bad Islamofascist Muslim Extremist Terrorists.
30. js | March 19th, 2008 at 11:29 am
So is this the straw poll, that liberals can get sarcastic and rub Obama’s muslim past into his “Christian” present and overcome the truth? That the “Christian” presence Obama portrays in reality is just a cover for racist ideology?
Only the three stooges would try that moronic approach…….taint anyone else dumb enough to try……
31. Jeremiah | March 19th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Obama’s a liar…a hypocrite …. you can’t trust him … reckon these leftists will ever see it? Nah, cuz they’re insane I tell ya…insane, insane.
Reality to a leftist will always be what “they” deem it…ya can’t tell ‘em anything, there’s no use in even tryin’.
–Jeremiah–
32. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Jeremiah,
When you talk about the leftist inability to grasp ‘reality’ in a thread out hypocrisy I can’t help but laugh.
Your comments in the thread “The Race Chickens Come Home to Roost” leave you no room to argue about reality.
33. js | March 19th, 2008 at 11:54 am
32. Some Assembly Required
lol!! you funny child
you say obama is a muslim attending a christian church, and then tell us about reality
what a stooge!!
HAHAAA
your lame
34. Diane Tomlinson | March 19th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Jeremiah sounds like a 40 year old man that’s been locked in his mother’s basement for the last 25 years with a Bible a candle and a jar of vaseline.
A classic case of sexual and philosphical frustration turned psychotic.
[cocks head to the side and crosses big blue eyes]
Sad.
35. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Js… Do you understand sarcasm? I would have thought this would have given it away.. “I also heard he eats the heads off of bats…” but I guess not. Next time I’ll add (Sarcasm) after my posts when I’m using it.
36. Michael | March 19th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Ever heard of the Constitution? You should check it out sometime. I think Robertson is a deluded fool and don’t support anything he says. But thank goodness the Constitution keeps leftists from determining who is “allowed” free speech.
20 years of racist and hateful screed. Sitting and absorbing and never raising a concern. Then toss hat in ring, get caught by some videos of what is going on in that church and suddenly he develops a conscience. Toss pastor under bus. Pretend shock and outrage. Give passionate speech which skirts the main issue. Still no answer to the 20 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars of enabling money to an organization that pledges allegiance to blacks only and Africa. Maybe some of that has something to do with it. Of course from the Republican perspective we are just watching a horse race and the Obama horse is losing more every day he doesn’t fix this problem he has. This is part of the vetting process. He ain’t vetting too well. Next up…Rezko. Obama’s already done the two-step on that once and the worst parts of that relationship haven’t even come out yet at the trial. All you leftist apologists and excuse-makers can try to “explain” away Obama’s troubles but it isn’t working. This pleases Hillary and she doesn’t have to say a word. Keep explaining. Keep calling those who see through Obama’s scam names. Keep your perspective of condescension. It doesn’t matter. Obama has blown it and does not seem too interested in coming clean. The American voter will make him a household word like Michael Dukakis.
37. TiredofLibBullSh** | March 19th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
The USEFUL IDIOTS are bending over backwards to defend their guy that is being held to the “standards” they uphold for non-liberal types.
Amazing how these hypocrites can actually say these arguments with a straight face knowing that if the situation were reversed, their so-called “understanding”, “big deals” and “so whats” would not be included in their criticisms and attacks.
But we are talking about mindless USEFUL IDIOTS that Comrade Stalin, Chairman Mao and Herr Goebbels would have loved to have in their followers.
38. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Good grief.
Next up?Rezko. Obama’s already done the two-step on that once and the worst parts of that relationship haven?t even come out yet at the trial.
I’ve said this before… Thanks for proving the whole “innocent until proven guilty” theory.
Please tell me what Obama has been convicted of. If something comes out of this trial of Rezko that Obama did something illegal, then let the daggers fly. Until then, why do you and others on this site spout out that Obama is tied to this corrupt individual? Now… if nothing comes out of this saying that Obama did anything wrong, are you going to provide a full apology?
TiredofLib, you kill me everytime you use your USEFUL IDIOT comment. You are some kinda funny.
39. Baxter Greene | March 19th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Diane wants to whine about when liberals supposedly speak truth to power,or in the liberal sense,blame America for 9/11,their post’s get deleted.
Try speaking at some of the more prestigious college’s and watch liberals rush the stage and assault the people that they don’t agree with.Try speaking your opinion and watch the liberals throw pies at you or stand up in mass and start yelling like a bunch of idiots because,you know, they support free speech so much.
Try posting on some of the top liberal web sites like
the Kos, Huffington,and DD and if you are not in their Berkeley Bubble,you will be deleted in a heart beat.
Try going to a military recruitment station and watch the super intelligent liberals that value “free speech” and the “rights of others” chain themselves to the doors and physically restrain people who want to go in talk to a Soldier about serving their country,
while the “intelligent” liberals outside call them war
criminals,mass murderers,and child predators.
Diane needs to clean up her own backyard before
she starts to whine about somebody else’s.
The fact that mistakes have been made and the history of racism is not the question or the problem
here.These issues have and are being addressed in this country in far superior ways than anywhere else
in the world.That is why people of all genders and races or killing themselves to get to this country.
If liberals are going to excuse racism and bigotry because of past mistakes,than everyone of every
race has the right to judge people based on the color
of their skin, religion,or gender.Wrongs have been done to everyone at some time or another in our history.
With this stupid liberal logic I guess our Jewish brothers and sisters will be able to enact all kinds of
racist programs,establishments,and doctrines.
Diane wants to use West to establish some kind of
moral equivalence to why liberals excuse racism when it benefits them.
She might as well quote Farrakhan and Sharpton too.
Dr. King would never have agreed or supported the
bigotry and idiotic propaganda that Wright puts forth
and Obama will not cut ties with.
Referring to America as the KKK of America is wrong and divisive.
Stating “not God Bless America,God Dam# America” is wrong and divisive.
Saying “the government gives them drugs,” and
claiming that the government “put aids into the
black community” with no evidence to back any of
this up is wrong and divisive.
Saying we brought on 9/11 because we have supported Israel against terrorist groups like Hamas
and we used the bomb to end WWll is wrong and
divisive.
When your theology is “God which participates in the destruction of the White Enemy” you are wrong
and divisive.
When you tell your congregation that”white folks greed runs a world in need.”you are wrong and
divisive.
This bigotry and propaganda does not open up dialog in race relations,it stirs hate and resentment.
You liberals can defend it and Obama’s support for
it all you want,and continue to show the world how hypocritical and blinded by your ideology you are.
To judge people and condemn them because of the
color of their skin or gender is wrong period.
You don’t get a pass or the right to be a bigot and
spread hatred because of sins in the past.
Any honest and ethical person knows this.
40. Diane Tomlinson | March 19th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Wow Baxter has a white man ever done anything for which in your view he could be held responsible? Must be nice to be brimmin’ wit so much piety!
Why I think I’ve been converted Baxter please marry me and keep me pregnant for the bulk of the next twenty years so I can close the gap beyween us and the brown races!
41. SteaM | March 19th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Mark,
Your hatred of Senator Barack Obama is getting rather tiresome.
Would you mind disucssing his policies for a while? Your right wing buddies on here are getting pretty vicious with their attacks on him based on his church. And I don’t think that is appropriate.
42. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
” To judge people and condemn them because of the
color of their skin or gender is wrong period.
You don’t get a pass or the right to be a bigot and
spread hatred because of sins in the past.
Any honest and ethical person knows this.”
Yes, but any intelligent person also knows these are not just sins in the past. They are still going on in society. To try and take a moral stance that racism has been eliminated from the US is ridiculous.
You learn from your past, apologize for it if need be and work towards the future so you don’t make the same mistakes. Acknowledging that the past happened is not excusing it. If anything it’s owning up to it in an attempt to change the path your on.
I am a white man, i took no real offense with what wright said because I understand why he said it. However I also understand how people can take offense to his statements. I do not pretend to have any moral superiority over this issue. The simple fact that Obama did not throw a man he considers family ‘under the bus’ despite the controversy has never occured before in politics. If you do not think he is capable of bringing about change, guess what, he just did. By saying I do not agree with what the man said, but that does not mean I do not consider him a close friend shows his true character. This resonated with me personally where I have been in some sticky situations with friends who have said some wrong things to people. Did I turn and bail, no, I stood my ground and fought along side my friends. Not because I agreed with what they said, but because they were my friends and I knew it was a momentary lapse of reason or fustration. Obama did this in the political arena which takes a lot more than being able to take a couple punches.
So keep saying 20 years, yell it, scream it, keep playing in on tv. Eventually people will see the type of character it took to stare the media in the face and say NO, he’s my friend. This is who I am, I’m not hiding it, like me or hate me, that is for you to decide but I’m done walking on egg shells for your vote.
43. js | March 19th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
35. Some Assembly Required
Js… Do you understand sarcasm?
—————–
This must be your moment of utopia. You actually think…thats a concept you really dont show us often. Beyond that, does your stooge sized brain actually consider that I am way far beyond where you are at with this question?
I dont think so. Not with that question.
LoL. Just keep stooging though. Affirm the fact that you walk in the flesh, we appreciate it so much. thxnowbyseeyal8r
44. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I’m trying to decide what I find funnier… js’s “stooge” comments or TiredofLib’s “USEFUL IDIOT” comments.
Really js. Try an make a point once in a while.
SAR, that is what they don’t understand. Apparently, according to them, you can not be friends with nor can you have any family member where you disagree with something they say. That is just beyond their reasoning.
45. hermie | March 19th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Obama’s carefully protected veneer is peeling off.
As a State Senator, he remained loyal to the corrupt Chicago/Cook County Democrat machine. For a man who wants to be viewed as a ‘reformer’, where was Obama when Illinois needed sombody to fight the corruption?
Why, he was rubbing elbows with shady characters such as Tony Rezko, and supporting corrupt, incompetent pols such as Todd Stroger and Dorothy Tillman.
As a State Senator, where was Obama when the first signs of a financial disaster with the education pensions loomed? Was this ‘reformer’ taking the lead to change the system that would nearly bankrupt Illinois? Where was Obama?
Why he was taking campaign contributions from the teacher’s and other unions that didn’t want any reform.
As a US Senator, Obama promised by-partisanship, yet where was he when it came time to vote on SCOTUS nominee Alito?
Why, Obama was out in front of a filibuster attempt with nothing to support it but vague accusations of ‘not being sensitive enough’ to minorities; with no proof whatsoever except the ACLU talking points.
Most candidates can point to legislation they created and got passed, or to executive decisions they made to demonstrate major accomplishments, but where was Obama?
Why in the State Senate chambers… voting ‘Present’ or on ‘Oprah’ hawking his books.
46. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Js,
I’m just curious, if your so far beyond, why the need to call me a stooge or lame for something which you knew was sarcasm…
Why use my sarcasm in an attempt to prove i was disconnected with reality…
Why not just look down and snicker from your computer and deem it to foolish to comment…
Why not come back with some clever wit instead of personal insults…
Oh wait…
47. js | March 19th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
46. Some Assembly Required |
I’m just curious…..
————
Because its true.
SAR and Joe, 2 of the 3 stooges.
Reality doesnt change so you boys can act all grown up. Its true, you are naturals, and thats it in a nut shell. Some people people never grow up. You are living proof of that fact.
and dont try to lecture me on your failures, when you two make statements like
“If Obama is a Muslim, why is everyone so upset about his CATHOLIC church?”
and
“So he’s a Muslim who follows every word his Christian pastor of 20 YEARS tells him. I also heard he eats the heads off of bats…”
Its really beyond use debating real issues with you. Go back to Jr High, thats where you two belong, not here with adults.
48. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
“Because its true.”
Excellent response. I think I might have struck a nerve. Js, both statements were sarcastic ones poking fun at how ridiculous people are getting when trying to shed doubt about Obama.
You accuse us of being juvenile though I have not personally attacked you. You call us names which is reminiscent of a teenager who cannot win an argument. Any minute now I really am expecting a ‘your momma’ joke.
Hey Joe, Hi-5 for being a ‘Stooge’ man. I always thought Charlie Chaplin was the man.
49. Rich | March 19th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
“Go thru all his sermons and lets find out how many are racist and how many are not. But nope… you clowns are jacked up in one or two sermons that you’ve heard.”
Did that work for Don Imus?
50. What? | March 19th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
JS,
I see how it is. If someone points out the absurdity of your argument you simply take your ball and go home.
But I also see a bit of Mark in your comments. I like the “I am so smart I am not going to argue this with you stupid people anymore” tactic. Very classy.
I know what you do. You listen to Sean Hannity and copy down his arguments. You then come on here and repeat them. The only difference between you and Hannity is that you have to respond to critics. Suddenly the right-wing talk show hosts arguments are not as powerful as they seemed when you first heard them. You are forced to resort to dismissing your critics as looney.
51. Michael | March 19th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Nice try, but no banana. I am pointing out that any shady associations that come out of the Rezko trial are gonna be fuel to the fire for those who want Obama defeated - whether or not there is “proof” or “guilt.” He has been tight with this crook for a long time. Hmmmm…sounds familiar. Is it possible he avoided all illegal and crooked deals where hundreds of thousands of dollars changed hands? Sure. Will he be in hot water because of his closeness to Rezko? I’m betting he will and don’t put it beyond Hillary and Bill to highlight his “poor judgment” which by the way Obama already admitted vis-a-vis Rezko. One by one, Obama has had attack after attack. The shine is gone. He’s sporting some pretty good bruises from Michelle’s comments and now Wright. I think Hillary is holding off on Rezko until the other problems die down. So understand that I am accusing Obama of nothing re: Rezko, but he has plenty of enemies that will make a big deal out of it to damage him further. As I have stated before, I really wanted Obama to beat Hillary and beat her soundly, but all this stuff is lined up like a freight train and running at full speed toward his campaign. He has shown his lack of experience, his naive nature in the big time, and some pretty questionable judgment. I still hope he manages to pull it out of the fire and pounds Hillary. So understand your “innocent” statement doesn’t even play into this. This is politics and vile things get said. Hillary and Bill are experts at this and will accuse Obama of destroying the party while they actually do. They will accuse him of dishonesty while they still haven’t released their tax returns and he has. Obama is not ready for them. Like I said, next up Rezko.
52. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Rich: Did that work for Don Imus?
Umm… Don Imus said what he got canned for. Obama didn’t say anything. The Rev did.
Slight difference.
53. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Michael, obviously you think awfully highly of the Clintons (js, that was sarcasm).
You go on and on about him and Rezko, but then you throw in “So understand that I am accusing Obama of nothing”. So you what? You bring this up to show that the Clintons will accuse him? Now THAT is bending over backwards.
Again, he hasn’t done anything wrong other than having a friendship with Rezko. People like you will bring up Rezko… of course not accusing Obama of anything, but let’s just lob that name out there and hope it sticks that Obama is as guilty as anything Rezko is accused of.
It is just like Macker above with the “Hussein” comment. You know… not that we’re saying that Obama is a muslim or anything, just saying that he has a muslim name that sounds an awful lot like that bad guy from Iraq, where we are in a war.
So it was a great way of tying him to illegal activities of Rezko without actually accusing him of anything.
How about McCain and those lobbyists in his campaign? Not that I’m saying anything was illegal, just asking how those lobbyists are doing.
54. SteaM | March 19th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
How does it feel when I say McSAME?
Anyone care to tell me what your reaction is when I use that name?
55. Jeremiah | March 19th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
When you talk about the leftist inability to grasp ‘reality’ in a thread out hypocrisy I can’t help but laugh.
HAHAHA!
SAR, buddy, you’re opinions have no meaning whatsoever as far as I’m concerned…useless as a pile of dog excrement. You’re a waste of band-width, as I would squash every comment.
So who needs you advice here, eh? You aren’t going to solve anything, so why do you even bother to waste Blogs for Victory’s time?
Just an annoyance.
–Jeremiah–
56. Macker | March 19th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
[shrugs shoulders]
There. Good enough for ya?
57. hermie | March 19th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Joe…You and the Obamaniacs are the ones claiming that Obama is going to ‘change’ things…That he is above the usual politics.
Yet he is just as close to lobbyists and special interests as any other Chicago politician. He is doing one thing and saying another…just like any other ambitious politician.
You can’t defend him, so you are trying to divert it as ‘everyone else does it’. You bring up something about McCain, but can’t get anyone to follow along.
Your candidate is just another pol.
58. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Jeremiah,
Obviously my opinions would mean nothing to you whatsoever if you were disconnected with reality. So thank you for proving my point.
Seriously though, does what I said really bother you that much? Do my opinions maybe cause you to doubt yourself? Are you afraid if I keep posting here maybe you’ll have to start questioning what people feed you?
59. Michael | March 19th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Ok, Joe, you’ve convinced me that it is a waste of my time trying to explain anything to you. So in the future I will not bother.
60. ANTI-LIB | March 19th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER.
That just about sums it all up.
Baraaawwwk is tightly linked to Wright. There is no doubt in my mind that he believes the way Wright does. Barack has said nothing that leads me, a voter, to believe he doesnt agree with the platform that Wright stands on.
I would sing a differnt tune if Wright was just some guy who Barack happened to know and maybe he donated to Barack’s campaign. But that isnt the case. Wright and Barack are tight. Way too tight for comfort IMO.
61. Joe | March 19th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Anti: Baraaawwwk is tightly linked to Wright. There is no doubt in my mind that he believes the way Wright does. Barack has said nothing that leads me, a voter, to believe he doesnt agree with the platform that Wright stands on.
- So you want him to prove a negative? What did Obama ever say or do that leads you to believe he DOES believe the way Wright does? The only way to prove that you don’t agree with him is to say you don’t agree with him. Didn’t he just do that? Meanwhile, Obama has never said anything that even resembles Wright’s comments.
Michael… good. Now take your ball and go home.
62. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
“I would sing a differnt tune if Wright was just some guy who Barack happened to know and maybe he donated to Barack’s campaign. But that isnt the case. Wright and Barack are tight….”
I think quite the opposite. If this was a man Obama had just met and said he disagreed with him but still considered him a friend I would be very skeptical. It is only because he has known the man for so long that gives him credibility here. He’s known the man for 20 years as opposed to everyone else making conclusions on what, 20 second youtube clips show. Would you be willing to disavow a family member because they said something you didn’t agree with?
63. hermie | March 19th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Obama has allowed Wright to join his political campaigns, and he chose to remain silent about Wright’s racist words.
Obama first denied ever hearing them, then ever so slowly he begins to admit that he heard things that he didn’t agree with…all the time excusing Wright’s words as being typical in black churches and the black community at large.
Let’s say that Wright didn’t say anything as racist as Obama’s grandmother until 2001…a stretch to be sure. Obama would not challenge Wright’s statements, but instead, he remained silent and gave Wright an even more prominence in Obama’s public life.
64. Jeremiah | March 19th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Do my opinions maybe cause you to doubt yourself? Are you afraid if I keep posting here maybe you’ll have to start questioning what people feed you?
SAR,
No, not the case at all. It does, however, concern me the influence that you place on others whom you are in contact with, spreading your knuckelhead opinions to them and misleading them in the same blindward ways that you take, along with Diane T, Joe, SteaM and the rest of the pinhead liberals supporting a defending the radical Left agenda that is leading America into the gutter of the world.
Is there any use in me saying anything to you? Of course not! The reason I say anything at all is to censor or get you removed from the site so your misleading opinions will have no influence that real ideas can be discussed and thought upon that will benefit society. Ways to defeat the ACLU and other demon-possessed, hate-America groups like the “Seperation of Church and State” organization, the American Atheists orgaization, the NAMBLA, the NOW, on and on …. ways that we can put the pressure on these groups and just keep putting the weight on until they are crushed. It’s really sad and scary what these organizations are doing to America, and angering.
So, No, I don’t question my beliefs for one second, and never will because I know that if I do it would be the most fatal mistake for not only the American people but for my eternal soul–Very scary. And it’s tragic that so many have fallen and questioned their beliefs in submission to your sick ideology of Leftism.
God help America to overcome the evil that is Liberalism!
–Jeremiah–
65. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Jeremiah,
It my right to express my beliefs and opinions, just as it is your right to disagree with them. Can you please tell me how what I have stated is misleading in anyway? My opinions do not fit into your tight worldview so I must a evil libertarian and censored and or banned from this site. Unlike you sir I am open to all sides of an argument as long as religion stays out of it. I hold no stalk in arguing religion. Who are you to tell me what to God to worship or church to go to and vice versa.
I am glad to see that you seem to hold ‘real ideas’ that will ‘benefit society’ like the ‘demon-possessed’ and ‘hate-America’ groups in higher regard than the Economy, Healthcare, Iraq, etc… It tells me a lot about your character.
You can call it tragic to question ones beliefs all you want, just remember, blind faith caused the murder of 5 million jews during the second world war.
66. Jeremiah | March 19th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
You can call it tragic to question ones beliefs all you want, just remember, blind faith caused the murder of 5 million jews during the second world war.
SAR,
Ooooh my, ya see, it’s that kind of clap-trap!!! It’s most definitely tragic what you believe. Where did you get such a skewed sense of “morality.”
The 12 million Jews that Hitler Murdered had nothing to do with “faith” … it was the evil intent of his heart that caused their death … the same way Ms. Sanger’s agenda, which the Left has upheld since her death was the cause of 50,000,000 innocent unborn childrens death. Mercilessly slaughtered.
Anyone who murders doesn’t believe or have faith, they believe in themselves as their ideology of hateful eugenics. If one doesn’t believe in God or Jesus Christ then there’s only one who can have control–Satan.
I wouldn’t want to be in either of their shoes right now.
–Jeremiah–
67. Some Assembly Required | March 19th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
So the millions of Jews that died in the holocaust had nothing to do with the fact that they were Jewish? Hitler was evil yes, but he killed Jewish people simply because they were Jewish.
Let me get this straight, your comparing the holocaust to abortion now… Do you have any shame sir?
68. js | March 19th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
And the third stooge is…….What?
So three stooges. Clear enough.
The reality is that this hypocricy on Obama’s part is so cut and dried that there is no need for a debate about its legitimacy. Thats why you have mellon heads running around acting (oh, it probably wasnt an act, but Ill give you three the benefit of the doubt) all sarcastic and making like immorality is morality and wrong is right and the what not. So confused they are that they cant see the truth right in front of thier noses. So diminished is thier common sense that they dont realize that the arguement they are making has no basis in reality, a debate that was lost before they began.
Twenty years is long enough to know if your preacher is racist. Obama has “NO” excuse. It isnt something to argue about. Left to dwell in ignorance and prejudice, people tend to lose sight of the truth, just like Obama did. Just like SAR, Joe and What? did. Just like any 3 stooges would. You cant blame them for thier ignorance, but certainly, you dont want they raising your kids, or leading the USA into the future…..
69. Canadian Observer | March 19th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
It does, however, concern me the influence that you place on others whom you are in contact with, spreading your knuckelhead opinions to them and misleading them in the same blindward ways that you take, along with Diane T, Joe, SteaM and the rest of the pinhead liberals supporting a defending the radical Left agenda that is leading America into the gutter of the world.
64. Jeremiah | March 19th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Since America has accelerate its descent into the gutter of the world during the Bush years, Jeremiah, you will need to add some neocon names to your list. The steady decline of the American Empire during the past 7 years is due not to liberal ideals, Jeremiah, but plainly due to the pathetic policies of the current administration.
Of course, that’s not to say liberals are entirely blameless in all of this as they did stand idly by and let GWB and his associates have their way with the country.
70. ANTI-LIB | March 19th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I grew up with a father as a pastor. I can tell you this. What is preached in the pulpit is also preached at home and amongst friends.
Some of you are flippn naive to think that the nasty words spewed from Wright’s mouth were just a rant for that day.
Those are words coming from his heart. They are coming from his soul. They are who he is.
There is NO WAY that Barack had a deep relationship with this man and NEVER hears those filthy things come from his mouth. He hears it and he sits by and probably nods his head in agreement.
Barack knows what kind of person he is and he CHOOSES to associate with him on a very personal basis. Again, Birds of a feather flock together.
If that doesn’t raise red flags for everyone….then Id have to say that those not seeing the red flags are already knee deep in the same belief system.
The Liberal Hypocracy (on all issues) is disgusting and shameful.
71. Jeremiah | March 19th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Let me get this straight, your comparing the holocaust to abortion now? Do you have any shame sir?
SAR,
As I’ve said before, we should paint huge swastika signs at every Planned Parenthood clinic in America and put them on a poll at least a hundred feet tall so everyone can see this is what America has come to.
If you can’t see the cruelty and shame that Abortion has defamed America, then there’s something wrong with you and you need to seek professional help ASAP!!
–Jeremiah–
72. Dennis | March 19th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Diane Tomlinson, post 20 - Thank you, that was majestic. Reading it here on this blog was like watching fire come out of the seat in an outhouse.
Jeremiah, post 64 - Classic, a textbook example of the delusions of the evangelical right. As opposed to actual New Testament Christianity, I must add. For that we all should reserve respect, agree with it or not. The problem is the former too often drowns out the latter. It takes some discernment to tell them apart.
73. What? | March 19th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
js,
I see your tin foil hat is strapped on tight. Here is what you are proposing.
Barack Obama has managed to gain the support from a wide range of Americans from every ethic and racial category all the while being a racist.
Does this seem plausible to you? If so I have some magic beans to sell you.
What you should do now is admit to what you are doing. You don’t believe Obama is a racist. You are plaing Gotcha! You are ignoring all other evidence and focusing on a single event so you can claim “victory” over other on this site and make yourself feel good. This is pretty sad, js.
What makes this go from sad to pathetic is that you and others on here are simply concluding Wright remarks are racist. What is racist about pointing out the truth that there exists inequality in the United States amongst whites and blacks and whites still hold prejudices against blacks?
This is not the same as voicing a belief in one’s racial superiorty.
There is also the notion that if whites celebrated our race and congregated together we would be deemed racist.
This doesn’t take into account that our nation is one largely defined by whites. We celebrate our race by putting white men on our money and teaching history in our schools about whites. Our schools still teach books mostly written by white authors.
Simply put, by being the majority race we have been the major engine that shaped American society, culture, and history.
There is nothing particularly wrong with this but it does mean that when you start a club celebrating being white you are in fact seen to be starting a club to further the idea of your race’s superiority. I don’t think this is an unfair presumption and it is a presumption you can overcome.
Minorities, on the other hand, are assumed to have start clubs based on racial backgrounds out of a need to confront issues facing them in a society where they are the racial minority. By and large I think this is the motive behind most of these kinds of clubs. They are, in short, a way to create an identity.
Writing this I realize every conservative on here will dismiss this as the talk of a pointy-headed liberal who got too much education in one of our indocrination centers aka universities.
I cannot alter your mind but I can put the ideas before you so later you cannot claim ignorance.
74. CuriousGeorge | March 19th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
This blog is a friggin’ train wreck.
Yet you keep wasting your time here, Joe. Why not attend americablog.com, where you’ll be heralded as an intellectual? Here, you’re just another troll puke.
Sooooo, now Earbama’s associations include Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Sharpton, and Meeks. Gee, one must wonder about his association with Screwie Louie…
75. neocon | March 19th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
What,
I would never accuse you of receiving too much education. You are also doing a wonderful job of spinning the dilemma Obama and the Democrats now find themselves in after not scrutinizing Obama enough on his way to the nomination.
There is no question that Wrights declarative statements are anti-semitic and racist. There also isn’t any doubt that Obama has not done a good job of addressing the matter, hence his drop in popularity polls in the last week.
And it’s not the conservatives that Obama and Obamabots need to watch out for, it’s the Clintons. They’ll have a field day with this.
Good luck.
76. FmrMarine | March 19th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
osama obama, mac daddy
wayyyy to funny
Im going through popcorn and beer at a frightful rate,
This is going to get even funnier.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU
77. js | March 19th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
73. What?
poor what?
you just cant figure it out
your barking up a dead tree
thats not a coon up there, its your imagination
billy boy was in a situation, or should we say, several situations, long before he ran for president too
they did a very, very good job of hiding the truth from people
so far, obama has followed suit
he has done his darnedest to ignore them when they are spoken of, kind of like you
and now that they are becoming more of an issue, he tries to spin them, kind of like billy clinton
and you
so
in reality, argue as hard as you can, go What? go!! see the earbama lie? WHAT? believe it, because thats in your nature.
you are not alone though
there are millions of gullible people out there
MILLIONS
should I say “WHAT?”
78. bongoman | March 19th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
js, turns out Obama did write the speech himself. Can you imagine Bush or McCain being able to do that?
79. FmrMarine | March 19th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
bongo man
yeah; it’s all whitey’s, and EEEEEvill corporations fault.
He SHOULD have left some one with an ounce of common sense write it.
He sounded like queeg from the cain mutiny.
80. Mark Noonan | March 19th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Diane,
Actually, I’m far better with beef stew and an old Scottish recipe (long story) for spaghetti than I am with barbecue…
You cover a lot of ground there, but lets just tackle the important bit - no one deserves salvation. There is nothing any one of us can do to make right all the sins we’ve done and it is only by grace of God that we can attain salvation. So, given this, my hope is that you, I, Wright, Obama and Donohue are all one day under a glorious light in the life of the world to come, laughing at our earthbound differences.
Meanwhile, though, we must try to do the best we can - and in this area, Obama is falling short. And as his is a public figure who aspires to lead all of us, I have every right to question him on such things, and demand answers.
When Imus made his vulgar joke - which was probably the 10,000th vulgar joke to appear on his show - Obama had a choice to make…he could ignore Imus, call for Imus to be fired or otherwise sanctioned, or he could remember what he heard in Church the Sunday before and realise that here was a chance to heal divisions rather than pour salt into sociological wounds. Obama chose to dogpile on Imus - and given what he must have heard in his own church, this makes Obama a hypocrit…it also, by the way, makes him that oh, so typical political specimen: the man who will literally say or do anything to get ahead.
Does anyone really think that Imus is a racist? That Imus intended to cause racial offense? Anyone who does is a knave of the worst order. Obama could have said, “Imus made a vulgar joke, and he should apologise to those ladies; but let us also look at the increasing vulgarity throughout our society, and ask ourselves if we cannot correct this.” But Obama choose to play the race card - even though he was throwing stones in the most amazing of glass houses.
81. Mark Noonan | March 19th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Diana,
Oh, just saw your #20 - you get worse as you go along.
Quoting the racist Cornel West in defense of Obama’s defense of the racist Jeremiah Wright…that is pretty low.
82. js | March 19th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
78. bongoman | March 19th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
js, turns out Obama did write the speech himself
———————
sure
clinton always tried to take credit for everything too, its not obama, its his ego
should i say the word gullible again about this stuff?
wake up jr.
83. Baxter Greene | March 19th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
some assembly required,
“yes but any intelligent person knows that these are not just sins in the past.They are still going on in society.To try and take a moral stance that racism has been eliminated from the US is ridiculous.”
What is ridiculous is this statement.
Please show me where I made such a claim that there is no racism in the US.Any intelligent person would know how to read,something you can’t do apparently.
You and your liberal friends have not one credible reply for Obama’s support for a man
that he called his “mentor”,”his spiritual advisor”,and
also served on Obama’s advisory committee,but who also believes:
“If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. ”
Your weak attempts to excuse the bigotry and racism that Obama supported for 20 years with
the crime of slavery and segregation is pathetic.
You take great pains to express how terrible the separatist and racist ways that blacks have been treated in this country by excusing and defending the
the separatist and bigoted ways of Reverend Wright.
What unbelievable sanctimonious bull$hit
Reverend Wright was the leader of a church with a
an estimated 8,000 parishioners in This “America of KKK.”
Reverend Wright is a wealthy man and does not have to go to segregated bathrooms,fountains,and
to the back of the bus in this “God dam# America”
Obama and his wife are very wealthy,have a beautiful home, family and received an excellent
education in this “America of KKK.”
Obama is a US Senator,and probably will have the
Democratic nomination for President in this “God dam# America.”
They like many Americans be they White,Brown,Black,Beige or whatever race or gender
have achieved success and happiness through hard
work and ambition.
This is not because America is “just like al-qaeda”
or “where white folks greed runs a country of greed.”
It is because this is truly the land of Freedom and
opportunity.
It is why people from China,India,Mexico,Europe
Cuba,South America and many others immigrate
here by the millions.
Do we have problems with race,crime,economic
and socially?
He!! yes we do.
Is teaching separatism and bigotry and telling lies
about this country going to bring us together and solve these problems?
He!! no it won’t.It will divide us and stir hatred and
resentment.
You liberals are very much on the record of excusing this bigotry because of your ideology and
political ambition.You are going to have a real hard
time being taken seriously the next time you get
your panties up in a wad because someone has the
audacity to refer to someone as a “nappy headed hoe” or dares to talk about someone eating chicken
and watermelon(one of my favorite meals by the way).
To defend someone who supports :What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal.” is pathetic and sickening.Congradulations
liberals.
84. What? | March 19th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
js,
Are you Jed Clampet? Why are you talking like you just walked out of Appalacia?
Anyways, since you have failed to address anything I said I will assume you have no counter-argument.
Hi Neocon
As I said, there is no way I can make you look deeper into the issue than you want to. You want to believe Wright and Obama are racists. I can only present evidence to the contrary.
85. Dennis | March 20th, 2008 at 12:01 am
Deleted - complains about comment policy.
86. Dennis | March 20th, 2008 at 12:24 am
Mike Huckabee defends Obama:
After joking that he’s leasing a hot dog stand in Manhattan, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee on MSNBC’s Morning Joe early this morning defended Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., on the Rev. Wright front.
And, in fact, he defended Rev. Wright, too….
see http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/huckabee-defend.html
Huckabee: “And one other thing I think we’ve got to remember: As easy as it is for those of us who are white to look back and say, ‘That’s a terrible statement,’ I grew up in a very segregated South, and I think that you have to cut some slack. And I’m going to be probably the only conservative in America who’s going to say something like this, but I’m just telling you: We’ve got to cut some slack to people who grew up being called names, being told, ‘You have to sit in the balcony when you go to the movie. You have to go to the back door to go into the restaurant. And you can’t sit out there with everyone else. There’s a separate waiting room in the doctor’s office. Here’s where you sit on the bus.’
“And you know what? Sometimes people do have a chip on their shoulder and resentment. And you have to just say, I probably would too. I probably would too. In fact, I may have had a more, more of a chip on my shoulder had it been me.”
I wouldn’t want him for president, but kudos to Mike Huckabee for showing his genuine Christian creds.
87. Freedom1 | March 20th, 2008 at 12:42 am
It just gets worse…Reverend Wright and Hamas:
Then there’s July 8. In his “Pastor’s Pages” at Page 9, the Rev. Wright helpfully introduces an article on “Progressive Muslims” by one Omid Safi by telling us:
The quote marks are the Rev. Wright’s.
88. Uncommon | March 20th, 2008 at 12:52 am
Deleted - commenter to be banned.
89. JS | March 20th, 2008 at 9:21 am
When someone first becomes curious and wishes to begin learning about Islam, it is imperative that they first understand the degree to which lying is not only permitted, but actually fostered and even, at times, commanded in Islam. When a Christian wishes to teach others about Christianity, it is simply understood that honesty will be an essential aspect of that sharing. In Islam however, most westerners have a hard time relating to the fact that purposeful exaggerations, covering of the truth and occasionally – outright-deliberate lying is a core part of the religion of Islam. There are actually specific doctrines and traditions that foster a culture of dishonesty within Islam. Now, of course, there are some verses and traditions in Islam that discourage lying:
And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). -Surah 2:42 (Yusuf Ali)
But unfortunately, as we are about to see, for many Muslims, it is the exceptions to the rule that have actually become the rule itself.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch16_understanding_dishonesty.htm
90. Joe | March 20th, 2008 at 9:52 am
AWESOME! Now you clowns can try to say that Obama is part of Hamas too!!!!
Freedom, why do you quote things from right-wing blogs as absolute fact? I can quote from the National Enquirer that Bigfoot actually exists and he is having an demon child with the wolfman.
91. Michael | March 20th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Hamas, Black Panthers, Weathermen, Rev. Wright…
I feel another “important speech” coming on by Barack (middle name redacted) Obama. For the MSM and the lefties, it should be orgasmic. For others, not so much.
92. Michael | March 20th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
BTW, did you hear that Hillary is calling Obama “unamerican”? That’s gonna leave a mark.
93. MorrisMajor | March 20th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Funny, all these Wright types never seem to emigrate away to the motherland. Guess they know they have it pretty darn good here in bad old Amerikkka as opposed to some heavenly place like Somalia, Haiti or the Congo
94. spoon | March 21st, 2008 at 11:16 am
What’s Wright with Obama? Nothing!
Can’t spell hypOcrite without Obama!
He says “typical” white person . . . I say typical politician.
He claims to transcend race and then is forced to address the issue in an exercise of damage control.
I’ve seen enough, Obama simply denies, disclaims, disavows. Shameful.
95. make sure your site is la&hellip | April 19th, 2008 at 7:12 am
make sure your site is law compliant
Stop! This isn\’t meant to scare you, but rather inform you. Is your website law compliant. If it isn\’t, you are risking severe penalties. All it takes is one complaint, or one report, and you could be a bad mess. The good news is that you can fix…
96. visit here&hellip | May 28th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
visit here
Take a serious look, and see if your website is breaking the law without you even knowing it. As far as the law is concerned…ignorance is no excuse. Avoid trouble…just take a minute and look!
97. internet legal compliance&hellip | June 6th, 2008 at 1:55 am
internet legal compliance
make your website compliant with the law. It will save you from serious problems. The best part…you can do it in under 60 minutes.
98. meatholes soma&hellip | June 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
soma
soma prescription
99. add freight rate url&hellip | August 13th, 2008 at 5:04 am
add freight rate url
It sounds interesting but I am not sure that I agree with you completely.
Leave a Comment
Please report any inappropriate or abusive comments to abuse@blogsforvictory.com. Please include the blog entry title and the comment number.
Some HTML allowed:
<a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong>
Trackback this post | Subscribe to the comments via RSS Feed