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]]> By: annette benning http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-60503 annette benning Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:36:38 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-60503 <strong>annette benning</strong> Thanks for the nice read, keep up the interesting posts.. annette benning

Thanks for the nice read, keep up the interesting posts..

]]> By: Sean http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-42619 Sean Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:03:49 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-42619 If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama If you haven't done so yet, please write a message to each of your state's superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com It takes a moment, but what's a few minutes now worth to get Obama in office?! Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It's that easy... Clinton Supporters It takes a moment, but what's a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?! Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It's that easy... we'll make it REALLY easy and include a list of names, addresses, and affiliations of superdelegates from each state including your state. If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama

If you haven’t done so yet, please write a message to each of your state’s superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com

It takes a moment, but what’s a few minutes now worth to get Obama in office?!

Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway
them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It’s that easy…

Clinton Supporters

It takes a moment, but what’s a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?!

Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway
them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It’s that easy…

we’ll make it REALLY easy and include a list of names, addresses, and affiliations of superdelegates from each state including your state.

]]> By: Michael http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37856 Michael Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:59:04 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37856 The nastiness in the Democrat party is getting worse. The personal attacks between Obama an Clinton get meaner every day. Clinton backers threaten House Speaker Pelosi and she angrily strikes back. We have some party hacks yelling for a resolution of the nomination soon and others, especially on the Clinton side, wanting to drag it out until the convention. Hillary recently said, "that's what credential fights are for" meaning she intends to not only hang in there but to try to take the nomination away from Obama. Of course his backers will fight that viciously. So the much-feared train wreck is still on schedule. Just yesterday, Howlin' Howie Dean said he wants super delegates to "end" this by July 1 and worries about the damage it is doing to the party. Florida and Michigan, as of now, will not have revotes so their delegates will not be seated at the convention unless Hillary wins the credential fight. Time magazine is calling for dumping both candidates and going with Al Gore (talk about desperate), who I suspect won't consider it because he likes his new rock star reputation. Positions are hardening and there seems to be no resolution in sight. As previously noted many Democrats say if their candidate isn't chosen they will either vote for McCain or stay home. No matter which candidate "wins" the nomination, the party will lose a golden opportunity and fracture into factions. If Obama is denied, the Dems could lose the black vote for decades. Some Dems are talking about offering Hillary a consolation prize, Harry Reid's majority leader job, and if she takes it she will be waiting for Obama if he gets elected. And she won't be looking for unity or healing - just revenge and helping Obama to fail. There really seems to be no way out of this for the Democrats and they brought it on themselves with their rejection of Michigan and Florida votes and their stupid super delegate idea. Right now there seems to be no way the "people" will have any voice in who will get their nomination - it will be people like old party hacks who select the nominee. This is what democracy looks like to Democrats? Actually I think not. I think they are starting to see the disaster they brought down on themselves and some are now demanding things get fixed. But for this election, its too late. The nastiness in the Democrat party is getting worse. The personal attacks between Obama an Clinton get meaner every day. Clinton backers threaten House Speaker Pelosi and she angrily strikes back. We have some party hacks yelling for a resolution of the nomination soon and others, especially on the Clinton side, wanting to drag it out until the convention. Hillary recently said, “that’s what credential fights are for” meaning she intends to not only hang in there but to try to take the nomination away from Obama. Of course his backers will fight that viciously. So the much-feared train wreck is still on schedule. Just yesterday, Howlin’ Howie Dean said he wants super delegates to “end” this by July 1 and worries about the damage it is doing to the party. Florida and Michigan, as of now, will not have revotes so their delegates will not be seated at the convention unless Hillary wins the credential fight. Time magazine is calling for dumping both candidates and going with Al Gore (talk about desperate), who I suspect won’t consider it because he likes his new rock star reputation. Positions are hardening and there seems to be no resolution in sight. As previously noted many Democrats say if their candidate isn’t chosen they will either vote for McCain or stay home. No matter which candidate “wins” the nomination, the party will lose a golden opportunity and fracture into factions. If Obama is denied, the Dems could lose the black vote for decades. Some Dems are talking about offering Hillary a consolation prize, Harry Reid’s majority leader job, and if she takes it she will be waiting for Obama if he gets elected. And she won’t be looking for unity or healing - just revenge and helping Obama to fail. There really seems to be no way out of this for the Democrats and they brought it on themselves with their rejection of Michigan and Florida votes and their stupid super delegate idea. Right now there seems to be no way the “people” will have any voice in who will get their nomination - it will be people like old party hacks who select the nominee. This is what democracy looks like to Democrats? Actually I think not. I think they are starting to see the disaster they brought down on themselves and some are now demanding things get fixed. But for this election, its too late.

]]> By: Freedom1 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37629 Freedom1 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:03:24 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37629 Speaking of FARC terrorists... <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN26296862" rel="nofollow">Colombia Seizes 66 Pounds of Uranium from FARC</a> - Reuters Speaking of FARC terrorists…

Colombia Seizes 66 Pounds of Uranium from FARC - Reuters

]]> By: Freedom1 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37608 Freedom1 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:55:37 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37608 Joe, You have a bad memory. Or you are lying. I never said that Obama supported or gave money to FARC. I linked to an <i>Investor's Business Daily</i> column which stated that Columbians found a FARC computer with Barack Obama's name in it and some mysterious FARC/"gringo" contacts. <i>"So no… don’t tell me those things were not said. I can most certainly dig them up if you need me to."</i> - Joe Find it. You need to re-read it because you obviously didn't understand it the first time. Joe: <i>"Now you guys are trying to say that he believes in polygamy because Freedom1 found some right-wing blog that believes his father was one."</i> How dense are you, Joe?? Obama's father was a Muslim and polygamy is allowed in Islam. Islam allows a man to marry up to 4 wives. How do you think Obama got so many step-brothers and sisters and a step-grandmother? Magic? Buy a clue Joe. __________________________________ About Obama's "church": <b>"Black Liberation Is Marxist Liberation"</b> By Anthony B. Bradley <blockquote>One of the pillars of Obama's home church, Trinity United Church of Christ, is "economic parity." On the website, Trinity claims that God is not pleased with "America's economic mal-distribution." Among all of controversial comments by Jeremiah Wright the idea of massive wealth redistribution is the most alarming. The code language "economic parity" and references to "mal-distribution" is nothing more than channeling the twisted economic views of <b>Karl Marx.</b> Black liberation theologians have explicitly stated a preference for <b>Marxism</b> as an ethical framework for the black church because Marxist thought is predicated on a system of oppressor class (whites) versus victim class (blacks).</blockquote> Anthony B. Bradley is a research fellow at the Acton Institute, and assistant professor of theology at Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis. His PhD dissertation is titled, "Victimology in Black Liberation Theology." http://archives.subscribermail.com/msg/762bf98a7dd84386a6e7f53c33025f7a.htm Joe,

You have a bad memory. Or you are lying. I never said that Obama supported or gave money to FARC. I linked to an Investor’s Business Daily column which stated that Columbians found a FARC computer with Barack Obama’s name in it and some mysterious FARC/”gringo” contacts.

“So no… don’t tell me those things were not said. I can most certainly dig them up if you need me to.” - Joe

Find it. You need to re-read it because you obviously didn’t understand it the first time.

Joe: “Now you guys are trying to say that he believes in polygamy because Freedom1 found some right-wing blog that believes his father was one.”

How dense are you, Joe?? Obama’s father was a Muslim and polygamy is allowed in Islam. Islam allows a man to marry up to 4 wives. How do you think Obama got so many step-brothers and sisters and a step-grandmother? Magic? Buy a clue Joe.

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About Obama’s “church”:

“Black Liberation Is Marxist Liberation”

By Anthony B. Bradley

One of the pillars of Obama’s home church, Trinity United Church of Christ, is “economic parity.” On the website, Trinity claims that God is not pleased with “America’s economic mal-distribution.” Among all of controversial comments by Jeremiah Wright the idea of massive wealth redistribution is the most alarming. The code language “economic parity” and references to “mal-distribution” is nothing more than channeling the twisted economic views of Karl Marx. Black liberation theologians have explicitly stated a preference for Marxism as an ethical framework for the black church because Marxist thought is predicated on a system of oppressor class (whites) versus victim class (blacks).

Anthony B. Bradley is a research fellow at the Acton Institute, and assistant professor of theology at Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis. His PhD dissertation is titled, “Victimology in Black Liberation Theology.”

http://archives.subscribermail.com/msg/762bf98a7dd84386a6e7f53c33025f7a.htm

]]> By: SteaM http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37582 SteaM Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:37:19 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37582 kimberly4victory, Making my case for why i used the word "hate" even though she never actually literally said she hated anyone would take a while. I don't think mark or matt would appreciate me doing that. But in short... she assumes, generalizes, and says that things are true when they are indeed not true only to try to smear someone she hates. kimberly4victory,

Making my case for why i used the word “hate” even though she never actually literally said she hated anyone would take a while. I don’t think mark or matt would appreciate me doing that.

But in short… she assumes, generalizes, and says that things are true when they are indeed not true only to try to smear someone she hates.

]]> By: Some Assembly Required http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37580 Some Assembly Required Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:33:59 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37580 Steam, I'm a little confused on this myself. Where some have already pledged themselves to either Hillary or Obama. These Delegates can change their minds if they so choose. As far as I can tell (don't quote me) The remaining super delegates will vote during the first two days of the convention leading to the leader being announced and celebrated on the last day of the convention. I also do not have time to cite links for this today. Steam,

I’m a little confused on this myself. Where some have already pledged themselves to either Hillary or Obama. These Delegates can change their minds if they so choose. As far as I can tell (don’t quote me) The remaining super delegates will vote during the first two days of the convention leading to the leader being announced and celebrated on the last day of the convention. I also do not have time to cite links for this today.

]]> By: kimberly4victory http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37577 kimberly4victory Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:26:03 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37577 SteaM: I re-read Almiranta's post two times and not once did she say she hated someone. So what are you talking about? I think it's terrible there will be no re-votes in Michigan and Florida. I'd be very upset if I lived in either of those two states. Don't the super delegates vote at the convention? Not sure either ... SteaM: I re-read Almiranta’s post two times and not once did she say she hated someone. So what are you talking about?

I think it’s terrible there will be no re-votes in Michigan and Florida. I’d be very upset if I lived in either of those two states.

Don’t the super delegates vote at the convention? Not sure either …

]]> By: SteaM http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37574 SteaM Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:18:01 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/03/26/divided-democrats-in-a-quagmire/#comment-37574 Sorry if I am picking your brain because I don't have time to go look up this info... but exactly when do these super delegates actually vote? Sorry if I am picking your brain because I don’t have time to go look up this info… but exactly when do these super delegates actually vote?

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