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		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-55369</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tractatus</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41525</link>
		<dc:creator>Tractatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;its the same reason that rap started to win awards and become entirely mainstreamed; the rap industry started shouting “racism”, and the entertainment industry crumbled under the accusation. Now they’ve got this talentless and destructive genre and they can’t get rid of it&lt;/i&gt;

I know you have no qualms about spouting off from a position of sheer ignorance, Noonan, but man...this is about as ridiculous a statement as I've ever seen about the success of rap music. So the only reason rap music became accepted and has won awards is because people shouted "racism?" Really? Do you have even one tiny shred of proof for that statement? You don't think that maybe, just maybe, it got accepted on its artistry? (Silly me, trying to make an argument about artistry to somebody with no sense of what that is, but at least it should generate a funny response.)

By the way, is there non-gangsta rap? Is there positive rap? Do you know when gangsta rap started? Are you even aware that it was around  before a record company ever put out a gangsta album?

Christ, man. What's next, screaming about how Elvis shaking his hips is destroying the moral fabric of society as we know it? You're like a cartoon.

Also, I reiterate my call for FmrMarine to be in charge of the GOP's minority outreach. Man, that would be hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>its the same reason that rap started to win awards and become entirely mainstreamed; the rap industry started shouting “racism”, and the entertainment industry crumbled under the accusation. Now they’ve got this talentless and destructive genre and they can’t get rid of it</i></p>
<p>I know you have no qualms about spouting off from a position of sheer ignorance, Noonan, but man&#8230;this is about as ridiculous a statement as I&#8217;ve ever seen about the success of rap music. So the only reason rap music became accepted and has won awards is because people shouted &#8220;racism?&#8221; Really? Do you have even one tiny shred of proof for that statement? You don&#8217;t think that maybe, just maybe, it got accepted on its artistry? (Silly me, trying to make an argument about artistry to somebody with no sense of what that is, but at least it should generate a funny response.)</p>
<p>By the way, is there non-gangsta rap? Is there positive rap? Do you know when gangsta rap started? Are you even aware that it was around  before a record company ever put out a gangsta album?</p>
<p>Christ, man. What&#8217;s next, screaming about how Elvis shaking his hips is destroying the moral fabric of society as we know it? You&#8217;re like a cartoon.</p>
<p>Also, I reiterate my call for FmrMarine to be in charge of the GOP&#8217;s minority outreach. Man, that would be hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Tomlinson</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41367</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Tomlinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41367</guid>
		<description>25. FmrMarine  &#124;  April 10th, 2008 at 7:42 pm



•	I agree,
•	
How about ending white girls having abortions?
•	How about ending white on white murder, rape, robbery?
How about whites getting off crystal meth and PUBLIC assistance?
How about whitess loosing the trailer park/country club mentality?
How about white working for a living by picking their own crops and roofing their own homes?
How about white “leaders” leading in stead of rabble rousing?
How about listening to the likes of Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, Dana Priest, Les Thurow, Kevin Phillips and James Carville etc
in stead of the race baiters
like Dobson, Perkins, Parsley and Hagee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25. FmrMarine  |  April 10th, 2008 at 7:42 pm</p>
<p>•	I agree,<br />
•<br />
How about ending white girls having abortions?<br />
•	How about ending white on white murder, rape, robbery?<br />
How about whites getting off crystal meth and PUBLIC assistance?<br />
How about whitess loosing the trailer park/country club mentality?<br />
How about white working for a living by picking their own crops and roofing their own homes?<br />
How about white “leaders” leading in stead of rabble rousing?<br />
How about listening to the likes of Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, Dana Priest, Les Thurow, Kevin Phillips and James Carville etc<br />
in stead of the race baiters<br />
like Dobson, Perkins, Parsley and Hagee</p>
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		<title>By: Some Assembly Required</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41365</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Assembly Required</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41365</guid>
		<description>"its the same reason that rap started to win awards and become entirely mainstreamed; the rap industry started shouting “racism”, and the entertainment industry crumbled under the accusation."

I have to ask, do you know anything about the origins of rap music or are you just spit balling your own personal bias? Like all other forms of music, rap adapted on the music of previous generations. Most of it can be traced back to kids in the streets just free styling and battling one another. It just took off from there. Kind of like the Hardcore punk scene for rich white kids during Regan's presidency. It has nothing to do with racism but was / is a generations way of expressing themselves. I believe NWA even came up with a song called 'express yourself'. How about there song 'F@$k the Police'. Ever wonder why then would write such a song or is it simply racism as well? 

"Now they’ve got this talentless and destructive genre and they can’t get rid of it…"

Rappers, who come up with their own material, despite your preconceptions are very smart individuals. They read more then the average 'white' kid IMO. Not just books either, dictionary's and thesaurus's to get a bigger vocabulary. They are essentially poets of the ghetto. Sad part is all you see in it is ghetto.

"to phase out gangsta rap would be to open them up to charges of racism…"

Would they call Eminem racist? How about all those other 'white boys' that rap or grew up in poverty and use it as a means of escape or express themselves?

As I have said before I do not agree with or like what 'gangster culture' is doing to western civilization, but at least I understand why it came about and trust me sir, it's not racism when you point out your oppression. That being said, I also do not like what 'Paris culture' has done either. One promotes violence, the other promotes stupidity... Put them together and you have a very violent, very dumb culture. I guess this is partly why the US went into Iraq and then elected Bush for a second term....  I know, I know BDS.

One last thing, when asked, the majority of rappers out there would more then likely say their inspiration comes from Tupac and are you sitting down for this... Led Zeppelin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;its the same reason that rap started to win awards and become entirely mainstreamed; the rap industry started shouting “racism”, and the entertainment industry crumbled under the accusation.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to ask, do you know anything about the origins of rap music or are you just spit balling your own personal bias? Like all other forms of music, rap adapted on the music of previous generations. Most of it can be traced back to kids in the streets just free styling and battling one another. It just took off from there. Kind of like the Hardcore punk scene for rich white kids during Regan&#8217;s presidency. It has nothing to do with racism but was / is a generations way of expressing themselves. I believe NWA even came up with a song called &#8216;express yourself&#8217;. How about there song &#8216;F@$k the Police&#8217;. Ever wonder why then would write such a song or is it simply racism as well? </p>
<p>&#8220;Now they’ve got this talentless and destructive genre and they can’t get rid of it…&#8221;</p>
<p>Rappers, who come up with their own material, despite your preconceptions are very smart individuals. They read more then the average &#8216;white&#8217; kid IMO. Not just books either, dictionary&#8217;s and thesaurus&#8217;s to get a bigger vocabulary. They are essentially poets of the ghetto. Sad part is all you see in it is ghetto.</p>
<p>&#8220;to phase out gangsta rap would be to open them up to charges of racism…&#8221;</p>
<p>Would they call Eminem racist? How about all those other &#8216;white boys&#8217; that rap or grew up in poverty and use it as a means of escape or express themselves?</p>
<p>As I have said before I do not agree with or like what &#8216;gangster culture&#8217; is doing to western civilization, but at least I understand why it came about and trust me sir, it&#8217;s not racism when you point out your oppression. That being said, I also do not like what &#8216;Paris culture&#8217; has done either. One promotes violence, the other promotes stupidity&#8230; Put them together and you have a very violent, very dumb culture. I guess this is partly why the US went into Iraq and then elected Bush for a second term&#8230;.  I know, I know BDS.</p>
<p>One last thing, when asked, the majority of rappers out there would more then likely say their inspiration comes from Tupac and are you sitting down for this&#8230; Led Zeppelin</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Noonan</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41340</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Noonan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAR,

Why doesn't it fade out?  Because the entertainment industry is caught in a bind - to phase out gangsta rap would be to open them up to charges of racism...its the same reason that rap started to win awards and become entirely mainstreamed; the rap industry started shouting "racism", and the entertainment industry crumbled under the accusation.  Now they've got this talentless and destructive genre and they can't get rid of it...unless, of course, we take the money out of it...the power to tax is, indeed, the power to destroy and nothing would please me more than to use liberal means to destroy varied aspects of liberalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAR,</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t it fade out?  Because the entertainment industry is caught in a bind - to phase out gangsta rap would be to open them up to charges of racism&#8230;its the same reason that rap started to win awards and become entirely mainstreamed; the rap industry started shouting &#8220;racism&#8221;, and the entertainment industry crumbled under the accusation.  Now they&#8217;ve got this talentless and destructive genre and they can&#8217;t get rid of it&#8230;unless, of course, we take the money out of it&#8230;the power to tax is, indeed, the power to destroy and nothing would please me more than to use liberal means to destroy varied aspects of liberalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Noonan</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41338</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Noonan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane,

I'm familiar - and his argument is bogus.  Its the perfect "have cake, eat it, too" mentality - he wants there to be free will and everyone to take responsibility for their own actions, but he doesn't want to take responsibility for his - which, amongst other things, has been the making of massive profits off the glorification of sex, drugs and rock 'n roll.  Simmons is an interesting character, but he needs to learn a basic truth - he doesn't live in a vacuum, and he's not the center of the universe.  

The people - whom he must care zero about - who consumed his product and took his persona at face value have paid their price for their choices.  Some are dead.  Some are in prison.  Some are drug addicted.  Some have only managed to barely get their lives back together after years of effort and hearache...the only person who hasn't paid the price for his actions is Simmons...and Jagger, and Richards,  and Roth...and scores of others throughout the entertainment industry who have made quite a lot of money off doing things in a very public way, and then trying to claim that what they did in public had no effect on the public for which they bear any responsibility.

We are all in this together, Diane - we are, indeed, our brother's keeper and it is our strict moral responsibility to help one another to a good life...or pay the price for not doing this or, worse, actually encouraging them to go wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m familiar - and his argument is bogus.  Its the perfect &#8220;have cake, eat it, too&#8221; mentality - he wants there to be free will and everyone to take responsibility for their own actions, but he doesn&#8217;t want to take responsibility for his - which, amongst other things, has been the making of massive profits off the glorification of sex, drugs and rock &#8216;n roll.  Simmons is an interesting character, but he needs to learn a basic truth - he doesn&#8217;t live in a vacuum, and he&#8217;s not the center of the universe.  </p>
<p>The people - whom he must care zero about - who consumed his product and took his persona at face value have paid their price for their choices.  Some are dead.  Some are in prison.  Some are drug addicted.  Some have only managed to barely get their lives back together after years of effort and hearache&#8230;the only person who hasn&#8217;t paid the price for his actions is Simmons&#8230;and Jagger, and Richards,  and Roth&#8230;and scores of others throughout the entertainment industry who have made quite a lot of money off doing things in a very public way, and then trying to claim that what they did in public had no effect on the public for which they bear any responsibility.</p>
<p>We are all in this together, Diane - we are, indeed, our brother&#8217;s keeper and it is our strict moral responsibility to help one another to a good life&#8230;or pay the price for not doing this or, worse, actually encouraging them to go wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Noonan</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41337</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Noonan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41337</guid>
		<description>Fool

Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fool</p>
<p>Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?</p>
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		<title>By: gaijin</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41333</link>
		<dc:creator>gaijin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremiah,

LOL, must have been aweful becoming one of the most popular bands of all time and becoming billionaires. I feel so sorry for those guys.

By the way, Lennon didn't say that "when they landed in America." He said it in London in 1966 two years after they made the leap across the pond.

I am all for your tax and censor idea, Mark. As long as I get to be the censor that is.

Peace, Gaijin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremiah,</p>
<p>LOL, must have been aweful becoming one of the most popular bands of all time and becoming billionaires. I feel so sorry for those guys.</p>
<p>By the way, Lennon didn&#8217;t say that &#8220;when they landed in America.&#8221; He said it in London in 1966 two years after they made the leap across the pond.</p>
<p>I am all for your tax and censor idea, Mark. As long as I get to be the censor that is.</p>
<p>Peace, Gaijin</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41327</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beatles said they were "More popular than Jesus" when they landed in America...

Well, turns out, for most of them, Ringo Starr, John Lenin, George Harrison, Paul McCartney...there lives haven't gone too smoothly ever since...As well as all the others who have indulged themselve in the sinful wants and desires of their hearts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beatles said they were &#8220;More popular than Jesus&#8221; when they landed in America&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, turns out, for most of them, Ringo Starr, John Lenin, George Harrison, Paul McCartney&#8230;there lives haven&#8217;t gone too smoothly ever since&#8230;As well as all the others who have indulged themselve in the sinful wants and desires of their hearts.</p>
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		<title>By: JPL</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/04/10/an-interesting-way-to-attack-social-disintegration/#comment-41325</link>
		<dc:creator>JPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa -- and this may be the 3rd sign of the Apocalypse -- but I agree 100% with Rana Quijotesca and Diane Tomlinson on this one. You might as well sue Occam, Kant, Rousseau, Karl Marx, Derrida, Foucault, Roosevelt, John Lennon, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Phil Donahue, Dr. Phil, Oprah -- or whoever else is to blame for the decline of Western civilization -- for the decline of Western civilization.

Bottom line -- please don't sue anyone for their ideas, no matter how misguided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa &#8212; and this may be the 3rd sign of the Apocalypse &#8212; but I agree 100% with Rana Quijotesca and Diane Tomlinson on this one. You might as well sue Occam, Kant, Rousseau, Karl Marx, Derrida, Foucault, Roosevelt, John Lennon, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Phil Donahue, Dr. Phil, Oprah &#8212; or whoever else is to blame for the decline of Western civilization &#8212; for the decline of Western civilization.</p>
<p>Bottom line &#8212; please don&#8217;t sue anyone for their ideas, no matter how misguided.</p>
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