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New York Times Wants Democrat Race Over. And I Mean Like, Yesterday.

April 23rd, 2008 at 03:40am Mark Noonan

In liberal-land, they are getting scared spitless over this lengthening Democratic contest:

The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it.

Voters are getting tired of it; it is demeaning the political process; and it does not work. It is past time for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to acknowledge that the negativity, for which she is mostly responsible, does nothing but harm to her, her opponent, her party and the 2008 election.

If nothing else, self interest should push her in that direction. Mrs. Clinton did not get the big win in Pennsylvania that she needed to challenge the calculus of the Democratic race. It is true that Senator Barack Obama outspent her 2-to-1. But Mrs. Clinton and her advisers should mainly blame themselves, because, as the political operatives say, they went heavily negative and ended up squandering a good part of what was once a 20-point lead.

On the eve of this crucial primary, Mrs. Clinton became the first Democratic candidate to wave the bloody shirt of 9/11. A Clinton television ad — torn right from Karl Rove’s playbook — evoked the 1929 stock market crash, Pearl Harbor, the Cuban missile crisis, the cold war and the 9/11 attacks, complete with video of Osama bin Laden. “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen,” the narrator intoned…

…It is getting to be time for the superdelegates to do what the Democrats had in mind when they created superdelegates: settle a bloody race that cannot be won at the ballot box. Mrs. Clinton once had a big lead among the party elders, but has been steadily losing it, in large part because of her negative campaign. If she is ever to have a hope of persuading these most loyal of Democrats to come back to her side, let alone win over the larger body of voters, she has to call off the dogs.

They want her out, Obama nominated and the whole, bloody mess of the primaries over and (hopefully) forgotten. The Times is right, I think, about the voters getting tired of it - more than one Democratic friend of mine has opined that the continual bickering between Hillary and Obama is turning them off on the whole process. This is, of course, anecdotal evidence, but I’ll bet that people around the country are saying much the same - outside of the real dyed-in-the-wool partisans for each candidate, most are probably ready for this thing to be over…and the longer it goes on, the more disinclined to vote Democrat they may end up being.

We Republicans are, of course, delighted with the whole process - Hillary we always felt we could beat but Obama worried us early on…but in the stress of the campaign, his glaring weaknesses as a candidate have come out, and we’re confident that against either one of them we’ll give a good account of ourselves. Once again we stand amazed that the battle is between two such clearly unfit candidates - and even more flabbergasted to think that one of the two dunces might be sworn in next January. But, each day has its task, and today’s task is to enjoy the show, and help McCain build up his organization for the fall.

Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Democrats, Republicans


60 Comments

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  • 2. Freedom1  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 4:23 am

    Bwahahaha!

  • 3. OperationChaos  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 5:12 am

    55-45, a pretty comfortable margin, considering who outspent whom by 3to1.

    Well, Joe, you were wrong–she won without OC…

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  • 6. hermie  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 7:56 am

    The NYT, which was one of the Clintons’ most vocal defenders in the MSM, are upset that their new favorite, Obama, was beaten.

    Now that Obama has decided to run away from future debates, it looks like he is depending upon the superdelegates’ fear of upsetting one of their core constituencies to propel him to the nomination. After all, those bitter, racist, gun-toting, holy-roller, rural votes aren’t necessary for the ‘hope and change’ candidate.

  • 7. js  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 8:01 am

    what really amazes me is the dizzy eye bimbo’s they interview that are infatuated with obama…then i saw him acting out “the rock” on the wrestling show….leads me to conclude that american voters are very immature to fall for obama’s lip service…and exactly how dangerous obama really is for exploiting the idol syndrome…

  • 8. Joe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 8:30 am

    You are correct. She won without the cross-over Repubs that were just trying to throw a wrench in the nominating process.
    I would have liked to have seen this much closer than 10.

    I really can’t wait for this to be over either. Regardless of who the nominee is, I’ll be happy voting for either Obama or Clinton (although I’d rather Obama). I just want the general to get going. So I don’t think the NY Times is alone in that feeling.

  • 9. sam  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 10:20 am

    once again, who cares about the primaries….after all, both parties are strikingly similar on most issues…to the rest of the world, america is just a two headed monster….

  • 10. Kahn  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 10:22 am

    OK, well because Michigan and Florida were counted out, this is messed up.

    Hillary leads in the popular vote. Obama leads in delegates. Since neither side has the delegates required - it actually is still an open race.

    They should go to the convention. The super-delegates should refuse to vote on the first ballot. Then, when it fails, they should seat Florida and Michigan and vote again - with all the pledges removed (the election gets you a vote on the first ballot only, after that the regular delegates can vote their conscience). Then let the chips fall where they may.

  • 11. Kahn  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 10:25 am

    thanks sam. You hate America filled posts are always welcome. Just where are you from again? Don’t they have decent schools there? Why do you need to go to school here?

    Or is all they teach in your country wife beating and how to talk children into being suicide bombers?

  • 12. OhioOrrin  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 10:51 am

    interesting that the NYT describes the process of citizens voting as “vacuous”.

    accordingly I give the old grey lady one purple finger extended in the air.

    guess which finger…

  • 13. SEW  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Interesting take by Stephen Green at Vodkapundit.

    “And the Democratic primaries? Look. The Republican candidates were such a sorry lot, to my tastes anyway, that I couldn?t be bothered to show up for the Colorado caucuses. Even now, you hear more grumbles than praise for John McCain from the reddest of red state voters.

    But Republicans settled on McCain, and quickly ? because that?s what the Republican primary process is designed to do: Pick a damn candidate already.

    The Democrats? process is designed to give everyone ?a voice.? Not a win, not a candidate, but ?a voice.? Unless, of course, the unelected and unaccountable ?superdelegates? capriciously choose to strip the people of their voice. In which case, you know, too bad. What the Democratic primaries don?t do ? what they seemed designed to put off doing ? choosing a nominee for the office of the President of the United States of America.

    And for that, every pundit drawing a paycheck can be thankful. I raise my glass to Obama, to Clinton, to Howard Dean, to the DNC, and to every ?bevoiced? Democrat across this great land of ours.

    May they long be confused, and may the nation (or at least my paycheck) long prosper for it.”

  • 14. sam  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 11:04 am

    um, they have decent schools everywhere in the world….just because you go to school in the states doesnt mean that there arent decent schools anywhere else..great logical thinking there mr. kahn, im sure your education has not let you down in life…hahaha…loser.

  • 15. js  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 11:05 am

    what a load of hot air that is, the DNC is so full of infighting, its a wonder they actually have only 2 candidates left…

  • 16. sam  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 11:06 am

    and so what my posts are anti american, is it a crime to be anti american?? last time i checked, it wasnt………

    i would be more scared if i was supporting a country blindly no matter good or bad……wait a minute…thats most everyone on this blog…

  • 17. sam  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 11:12 am

    once again, does it really even matter who gets the democratic nomination??

    I think this country is ready for a change, whether its clinton, or obama, i think a democrat will be in office on jan 20 09 because the historical trends point that way and the country is just simply ready for a change.

  • 18. Diana Powe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 11:29 am

    Mark’s instincts to be childish sometimes just can’t be resisted, as evidenced by the ungrammatical use of Democrat instead of Democratic in the ungrammatical title of his post, or is that just because the most unpopular President in the 70-year history of the Gallup Poll (and former hero of this blog’s name) sometimes says it that way?

  • 19. InDaVa  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 11:53 am

    “They should go to the convention. The super-delegates should refuse to vote on the first ballot. Then, when it fails, they should seat Florida and Michigan and vote again - with all the pledges removed (the election gets you a vote on the first ballot only, after that the regular delegates can vote their conscience). Then let the chips fall where they may.”

    That’s a dream scenario for the Republicans but I doubt it’s gonna happen. I’m not fed up yet, this is the process. I do wish the Dems had a nominee already though. I guess we’ll have to wait and see how it pans out.

  • 20. SEW  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    Democratic, like in don’t count the vote in Florida and Michigan? Got It.

  • 21. Some Assembly Required  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Hilary was the only one on the ballet in Michigan, would that be democratic? Split the vote between the two. Split the delegates. Then give the nom. to the candidate with the majority of pledged delegates before the convention (Obama) regardless if it’s even one more. Sadly I can see Hilary ruining the dem party for her shot at making Bill the ‘First Husband’

  • 22. InDaVa  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    I posted this in another thread but it applies to the debate here…

    “However,the Dems had it coming though. The DNC insisted on punishing FL & MI and yet let other states move their primaries at will. Sorry, but the DNC got exactly what it asked for. Chaos. The DNC sure wasn’t complaining when Dems crossed over and drove the Reagan/Ford battle to the convention. Maybe they weren’t encouraging it on National radio, but Dems crossover all the time. Democrats could stop it if they wanted to. Why they don’t is beyond me.”

  • 23. Diana Powe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    SEW,

    As in “if you violate the party rules, then you opt out of the vote counting”. Have you got something against following the rules…oh, wait…you’re a supporter of the current Administration. Never mind, question answered.

  • 24. SEW  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Democratic, or political equality. The DNC’s duty is to sponsor the convention. Political equality [democratic], don’t count the vote in Florida and Michigan. Oh wait, recount the vote in 3 Florida counties.

    Democratic. A very confusing concept the Democrat Party has.

  • 25. Diana Powe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    The Democratic Party has rules which it enforced. You know, the rule of law, something that the Bush Administration doesn’t have much affection for. Yeah, I know, Republicans. Rules and laws are for chumps, right?

  • 26. OhioOrrin  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    true Diana, but the effect of enforcing the PARTY’S rules is to disenfranchize the vast majority of CITIZENS who had nothing to do w the violation.

    the PARTY could’ve held provisional primaries in both states & secured the ballots pending any decision resulting in the CITIZENS’ choice being expressed & discernable.

    the PARTY threw the baby out w the bathwater.

  • 27. Joe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    OhioOrrin,
    Then the people of MI and FL should have taken it up with their state party and told them not to move it because they want to be heard.

    They assumed that the national party would bluff and allow them to be seated because the assumption was that the nomination wouldn’t have really needed them. Bad assumption.

    Obama wasn’t on the MI ballot, so they didn’t have a chance to vote for him. Obama didn’t campaign in Florida so that wouldn’t be fair either.

    Bottom line is rules are there for a reason.

    With the proportional delegates, just seat them at 50-50. That is roughly what it will be anyway.

  • 28. Diana Powe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Joe is exactly right. The beef that the Democratic voters in Michigan and Florida have is with their state parties, not the national party. The rules were already well-established and known. The state parties thought they could break the rules and not get penalized. They were wrong.

    However, that might be a clue to the Democratic voters in those two states to replace their state party leaders.

  • 29. mitch  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    In my opinion Dems blew away their best shot at the WH when Edwards dropped out. Judging from how nasty this Obama and Hillary soap opera is he’s probably kicking himself in the teeth right now.

  • 30. hermie  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    The Dems didn’t care about FL and MI when they made their ruling because ‘EVERYBODY knew’ that Hillary was going to be the nominee.

    Then Obama (D-Rezko) showed up, at first planning to get enough votes to secure the VP slot. But the MSM got Obama fever (noticable by unexplained fainting at speeches, and thrills up your pants legs) and their one-time Saint Hillary was no longer welcome.

    But it was too late to change the rules back again, and the DNC has now found itself the proponent of voter disenfranchisement.

    The superdelegates, the elites in the party, must now find a way to keep from having the rabble turn against them. Reject Hillary who is already damaged goods and who is no longer the favorite of the Left; or accept that Obama is indeed an empty suit who will be creamed in debates and unable to hide his past.

    In either case, the Dems will lose the support of a large number of members of their core constituencies. Are they sexists or are they racists?

    In either case…pass the popcorn please.

  • 31. Kahn  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    sam,

    Why won’t you say where you’re from? And if the schools are so great EVERYWHERE, why not go to Goatherder U. instead of coming here?

    Hey, any Muslim countries pick up any Nobel prizes in economics, literature, or the sciences lately? Ever? How about all those big computer and drug patents coming out of the middle east huh?

    If you REALLY hate us that much, go home and pick up an AK47. That way some Marine can pop you for your beliefs. Its a sure way to Paradise, isn’t it?

  • 32. Joe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    hermie:
    The Dems didn’t care about FL and MI when they made their ruling because ‘EVERYBODY knew’ that Hillary was going to be the nominee.

    Wrong. Try again.

    Obama is indeed an empty suit who will be creamed in debates

    I really can’t wait for an Obama-McCain debate. I have no problem with McCain, but to see a young eloquent speaker versus a stiff guy that talks like an 80 year old will be something to see.

  • 33. Joe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    Kahn,
    really… as much as I love to see a Republican’s blood boil, sam really isn’t worth it.
    I enjoy reading your posts and debating you here. sam isn’t worth you blowing a gasket over. :)

  • 34. sam  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    Kahn,

    why don’t you pick up something and go fight for what you advocate. being an online tough guy is easy isn’t it?

    i don’t come on this site and post personal attacks against you do I? you are the one that started this BS. instead of responding to a post of mine, you ask me where I am from….when I tell you, you start going off on your racist remarks…hahaha…shows your true colors, and the true colors of the majority of republicans, thats why the world hates you.

    and also, last I checked, the marines were getting popped, and not doing much popping…they will soon tuck tail and run, thats what your country is good at afterall…hahaha…losers.

  • 35. Kahn  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    joe - I’m trying to goad him into going home so one of my brother Marines can end his argument.

    Oh and Sam - better check the body counts. Marines had a 28 to 1 kill ratio against your brother Jihadists. In Fallujah, their new scopes were so effective that they had to investigate to see if all the head shots were executions. They were not, just good shooting.

    Speaking of being an anonymous blog, why then won’t you say where your from? Coward.

  • 36. SEW  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    RNC and DNC

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/04/delegates_to_dean_make_us_1.html

  • 37. OhioOrrin  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    no Joe, I disagree.

    I’m not talking about enforcing rules, I’m talking about leadership - specifically NATIONAL PARTY LEADERSHIP.

    we both know the NATIONAL PARTY LEADERS could’ve decided otherwise for the sake of the CITIZENS of both states regardless of the actions of the state party.

    This discussion should’ve been about LEADERS, not LAWYERS who can’t see past a rule book.

  • 38. Diana Powe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    OhioOrrin,

    I completely see your point. However, the question comes down to why anyone should lead by saying, “Well, it’s okay. Rules don’t really matter.” We’ve had that from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue for the last seven years.

  • 39. Joe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    So why have any rules at all if they aren’t going to be enforced Orrin?

    The National party told the state party not to move. The state party said too bad, we are doing it anyway. The national party said no. The state party said too bad, we are doing it.

    It’s not like this was done behind closed doors. This was in the news. It could have been stopped.

    Look… I’m not happy those 2 states are not being seated because it is causing problems with the party. But rules are rules. You don’t disregard them when it suits you. If we do that, then we would be………. the current Administration.

  • 40. Kahn  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    By the way, Mideastern Muslim is NOT a race. Both the Jews and the Arabs share the blood of Abraham.

    So while race is not cool to hate, practices and beliefs are. A religious discipline that allows for the intentional murder of innocents to make a political point is bad. The extremist Muslim movements (both Sunni and Shia) are full of these acts.

    They behead prisoners who have committed no crime. They kill innocent men, women, and children intentionally. They get mentally retarded boys and girls to wear bomb vests and kill themselves. They treat their women and little girls like crap ( I guess the Burkas hide the bruises). Their “science” wants to reorient world time to Mecca, but has produced no discernable invention or important discovery in centuries.

    Muslim nations, except for some very rich people who make money from oil, are some of the poorest and most backward nations on Earth. Think about it. Afghanistan? A hell hole. Iraq? Somalia? Dafur? Egypt? Syria? Stop when I name a place you’d like to live.

    In many ways, it’s similar to the list of US cities long controlled by Democrats… Not in ALL way, but in many.

  • 41. Diana Powe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    I guess a rant about the intrinsic evil of all Muslims is right on topic with what the New York Times allegedly thinks about the Democratic presidential primary. But, hey, “rules” and “policies” are for chumps and losers, correct, Mr. Yoo?

  • 42. OhioOrrin  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    joe n diana - u act like someone came down from the mount with stone tablets inscribed w these 15 (dropped one), oops- make that 10 - TEN COMMANDMENTS.

    the CITIZENS of Fl & Mich needed leadership…but they got administrators instead.

    democracy is underpinned by the psychology of voter confidence in the system, regardless of man-made & then modified rules.

    and inspiring confidence is one difference between leaders & administrators.

    I’m done w this. if u don’t understand my meaning, there’s nothing more I can write.

  • 43. Diana Powe  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    OhioOrrin,

    Well, I certainly don’t think you’re crazy for thinking the way that you do. Certainly, there should be some room for negotiating, one would think.

  • 44. sam  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Kahn,

    yep the marines are doing an amazing job, thats why 5 years later and they are still fighting “insurgents”..hahahaha…keep it up old man, im sure you thought vietnam was a success as well until you pulled out like a bunch of mercenaries.

  • 45. OperationChaos  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    In my opinion Dems blew away their best shot at the WH when Edwards dropped out.

    Maybe you should step away from the bong.

    Diane, could you cite some of those rules you claim the Bush administration broke? You’re lowering yourself to baseless talking points, just like your fellow cows, plainjane and sunny.

    What is it with you people in the democrat party? You have so much hatred. I’m sure glad I’m not a member of the democrat party. Or of the democrat national committee. The democrat party is loaded with stupid cows…

  • 46. Some Assembly Required  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    “What is it with you people in the democrat party? You have so much hatred. I’m sure glad I’m not a member of the democrat party. Or of the democrat national committee. The democrat party is loaded with stupid cows…”

    Hilarious… Projection, what’s that?

  • 47. Kahn  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Anbar is looking good. I was wrong on the kill ratio, it’s 39 to 1.

    Insugent wars take a long time if you choose to not harm innocent civilians. Most Muslim nations are so brutal it might be shorter. In several Muslim areas, they’d kill all the men, rape all the women, and sell the children as slaves. Such an elightened religion.

    Whens the last time Iran won a war by the way?

  • 48. phnx  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    “your troops will lose their will to fight, just like they did in Vietnam.” sam

    Your recount of history is seriously flawed moron. The US departure from Vietnam had nothing to do with the military’s will. It was due to political will at home, manipulated by leftists peaceniks.

    The vaccum created by the departure of the US military resulted in the eventual death of millions in Cambodia under Pol Pot, as well as thousands in Vietnam.

    Peace is not simply the absence of war. But that doesn’t matter to leftists like you does it?

  • 49. FmrMarine  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    sami

    >>>>on that day, i will throw a party at my house, and ill invite you, you idiot.<<<

    What if only islaminists came to your party and blew your allafied family to paradise…..IM up for that!

  • 50. Kahn  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    sam,

    Thanks for that. Liberal posters - sam is proof of what we’ve been telling YOU about your refusal to support our troops.

    Sam - you live here, but you still refer to us a “you”. You’re a cancer. Go back to France. Or actually go to Iran. It’s a Muslim paradise.

    ajab kungoshade junevari hasti to!

  • 51. sam  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    FmrMarine,

    you really show your softer side, advocating the killing of my family, and me.

    Don’t worry, payback is a bitch, all those crimes your mercenaries committed on behalf of your country will come to pass, and you will pay for them. I just wish you were a current marine, i would love to send you over there to get shot and killed. hahahahahahaha…old white man, get a life loser.

  • 52. FmrMarine  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    sammi

    >>>>because Iran hasn’t won a war, that makes your country tougher right?<<<

    Let me get this straight………..iran fought an EIGHT YEAR WAR with Iraq, and couldnt win.

    WE kicked Iraq’s ass the first time in 100 HOURS,
    and the second time in say 20 DAYS.
    Tell all about your arab islamic bravado!!!
    You surrender monkies bow down and surrender to UNARMED journalists.

    Isreal kicked your A$$
    a french - iranian it figures.

  • 53. sam  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    Deleted - slanders the United States military, slanders the United States, repeats known lies. Commenter to be banned. Enough is enough, already.

  • 54. FmrMarine  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    sami

    >>>Don’t worry, payback is a bitch, <<<

    YES it is.

    When mecca will be turned into melted glass, and iran will be occupied by the Isrealies suck it up raghead it will happen.

    It seems the Marines are doing more shooting and killing than getting shot, i would gladly serve in Iraq, and send as many of your filthy relatives to meet the thief, pedophile, murderer, mohaMAD as possible, as my “brothers” are doing as we speak.
    Our casualties are caused by islamic COWARDS like your self, who blow up innocents in stead of fighting like men!

    Why dont YOU join the glorious jihad?
    Oh yeah thats right you only wand to anamously murder women and children.

  • 55. Jeremiah  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    ‘They that take the sword shall perish by the sword.’

    ‘You have taken the sword, but not in the spirit of wrong or revenge: you have taken the sword for your homes, for your wives and your little ones. You have taken the sword for truth, justice, and right, and to you the promise is, be of good cheer, for your foes have taken the sword in defiance of all that men hold dear, blasphemy of God: they shall perish by the sword.’
    ——————————

    The Islamist Jihadists days are numbered. When they shall plague mankind no-more.

  • 56. FmrMarine  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Mark;

    The American electorate are getting a taste of what the donk party is all about…and it AINT pretty.

    They sought to portray the gore debacle to be about Bush “stealing” the election.
    It wasnt.
    It was fuming anger, hate, and rage, that with ,all the lying, cheating, lawyering, and disenfranchising the Military votes, couldnt help THEM…STEAL it from a DAMN GOOD Christian man.

  • 57. tom  |  April 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    The Clinton campaign is a perfect example of how they would run this country.

    They do not care what others think and they do not care about wasting the money of others for thier shallow ambitions.

    She knows she is not going to win.

  • 58. SteaM  |  April 24th, 2008 at 1:08 am

    The American people have had more than just a “taste” of what the Republican party is all about and what does to our country when put in power.

    Therefore, they cannot win this election.

  • 59. Jeremiah  |  April 24th, 2008 at 1:30 am

    The American people have had more than just a “taste” of what the Republican party is all about and what does to our country when put in power.

    Therefore, they cannot win this election.

    SteaM,

    If the American people can’t see the Democratic party for what they are, then it’s because of the deceitful efforts of those like MoveOn.org and the likes of Daily Kos, working feverishly to spread and infect people with their bigotry and lies.

    At any rate, it would be hard to believe that the “American” people would ignore the threats against us by the radical Jihadists, and likewise the moral threat that faces our Nation through the policies of either of the two Liberal candidates currently running for President.

    So, we face more than just a few unpaid home mortgage loans…we face…in this election, the deciding line for the very survival of the American people, all 300,000,000+ of us.

    Let me just state it this way … It’s like playing with fire…and if you don’t want ‘o get burned…you better vote Republican.

    Actually….it’s way more serious than that.

  • 60. Mark Noonan  |  April 24th, 2008 at 2:05 am

    Marine,

    Indeed.

    SteaM,

    Taking off my Rabid Partisan Helmet and putting on my Serious Analyst Hat, I don’t see what you see.

    True enough, the political stars are all aligned for a Democratic victory in November - money, enthusiasm (supposed), unpopular incumbant President, unpopular war, shaky economy…in the normal course of events, I’d just be hoping to put on a good showing and preserve as much GOP power as I can at the Congressional and State legislative level (2010 is a-coming, ya dig?). In our little intra-GOP chats earlier this year, we looked out upon a rather bleak prospect…but we’re not looking at such any more.

    Obama has proven himself a miserably bad campaigner - he’s a great orator, but on the campaign trail he just doesn’t cut it, which is why he’s being ground down by Hillary, who is also not a very good campaigner, but who has the plain grit to press on even when things look hopeless. I still expect him to get the nomination - Democratic leadership would be terrified of not giving it to Obama, for fear that even 20% of black voters would go GOP…thus not only costing them the Presidential election, but 20 or so House seats, into the bargain, so dependent is the Democratic party on 90% of the black vote - but he fails at the give-and-take which is national electoral politics…he’s great in the set speech, but bad at everything else.

    Adding to this poor campaign performance in the long slog such as he’ll have from September to November is the fact that he’s an ultra-liberal politician in a center/right political nation - and while you on the left will downplay Wright and “bitter”, such things will resonate amongst the American electorate, and may prove as damaging overall to Obama as “global test” was to Kerry.

    Meanwhile, by happy coincidence more than anything else, teh GOP winds up with McCain - a man identified in the public mind with outspokeness, courage and, also, a bit of distance between himself and President Bush…the American people, mark my words, would rather win than lose in Iraq…and McCain promises to win, and carries none of the baggage President Bush has (quite unfairly - but politics isn’t fair) been saddled with.

    In short, the circumstances are building which make is plain that McCain can win - not that he definitely will, but to say here in late April of 2008 that the GOP will certainly lose is to be a person not paying attention to the broad shift in the political scene over the past month.


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