Fmr Marine, Maoism and Stalinism were communist ideologies not liberal and they were extremely warped versions of Marxism. Nazism was facist again not liberal (spare me the ‘it’s the national socialist party’crap, the policies were that of a facist party)

The 2 middle fingers were used by English archers rather than 1 to insult the French who cut off both middle fingers of any captured archers so that they couldn’t use their bows again. Thats where sticking up the v’s comes from rather than the middle finger.

CO, you have no clue. Liberals are trying to set up the socialist/communist theory of government, the same classless society. Individualism has no role in that form of government. Everything is for the “common good”. You should have listened to the previous speeches of Kennedy, Clinton and others talking down the individual and praising everything for the common good.

“We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.” Hillary Clinton 1993

Krushchev said “Comrades, We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all.”

Hmmmmmmm…..sounds pretty similar….coincidence?

Modern Liberals have embraced the ideas of Marx, Stalin, Lenin and Mao - maybe not using genocide, but socialist none the less. It is only a question of enforcement and finance. How will libs pay for everything that they want other than confiscating it from the public?

Classical liberals are close to the Federalists.

Sorry, CO but your modern liberals are not for the individual and all legislation The Great Society and other social programs have hurt society as a whole.

liberal principles? Marxism? Government control? Redistribution of wealth? Taxation? Socialized medicine?

17. FmrMarine | May 8th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

There is nothing ‘liberal’ about any of those isms, FmrMarine. You should know that.

Liberals do not endorse genocide nor do they support the removal of individual liberties. Again, FmrMarine, you should know that.
If not, then you have no conception at all of the basic tenets of liberal principles.

Should the Mormon group in Texas have been able to continue their practices?

Should some African witch doctor be able to slit the throat of a goat in public?

Should Rastafarians be exempt from drug laws?

Thank God Obama gets it, while McCain just panders to useful idiots.

>>>>It continually amazes me, and saddens me, that there are people that can’t seek to attain the ideals expressed here without their belief in the supernatural.<<<<

“It continually amazes me, and saddens me, that there are people that can’t seek to attain the ideals expressed here without their belief in the GOVERNMENT.——–There all fixed.

You can not, and will not, attain your ideals without recognizing that your fellow human is the way to it. You have your heads in the sky, abstaining from reality and rational thought.

Can you do nothing as a mere human being? Are you too weak to stand on your own?

>>>>Throughout history, Liberal ideals have advanced mankind; whereas, ultra-conservatism, wrapped in religious dogma, has led to periods of strife and lapses into darkness, not particularly beneficial to the human race.<<<<

Do you mean the estimated 150,000,000 deaths related to “liberal ideas” as in marxism, stalinism, nazi-ism, mayo-ism.
AND
the 50,000,000 murdered babies in the US?

real good ideas Satan loves them.