Comments on: Obama’s Problem With the Democratic Vote http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/ Where Defeat Is Not An Option Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:29:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Lee http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-61024 Lee Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:47:05 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-61024 BLOOMBERG ENDORSES OBAMA ??? Obama spent over 20 years, deeply involved in Chicago's Trintity church, which gave anti-semitic Louis Farakan a life time achievement award. During that time Obama never stood up against Farakan's anti-semitism, and he only quit the church when it threatened his political ambitions. In addition, if you read the blogs, it's obvious that many of Obama's most devoted supporters are extremely anti-Israel. Actions always speak louder than words, or endorsements ... especially if the actions (or inactions) span a period of over 20 years. Even with all the efforts to package and sell Obama to the American people, the facts speak for themselves. Obama does not have the character, integrity and judgement to be President of the United States of America. BLOOMBERG ENDORSES OBAMA ???
Obama spent over 20 years, deeply involved in Chicago’s Trintity church, which gave anti-semitic Louis Farakan a life time achievement award. During that time Obama never stood up against Farakan’s anti-semitism, and he only quit the church when it threatened his political ambitions. In addition, if you read the blogs, it’s obvious that many of Obama’s most devoted supporters are extremely anti-Israel. Actions always speak louder than words, or endorsements … especially if the actions (or inactions) span a period of over 20 years. Even with all the efforts to package and sell Obama to the American people, the facts speak for themselves. Obama does not have the character, integrity and judgement to be President of the United States of America.

]]> By: GOP4ME http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-51199 GOP4ME Sat, 24 May 2008 16:53:03 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-51199 Jake, As a Christian Conservative I am deeply offended by your sophomoric Liberalism. As for your faith? I could not care less... I suppose one just need to ask. Which side of the aisle is calling for divestiture from Israel? Hint - It isn't ours... Jake,

As a Christian Conservative I am deeply offended by your sophomoric Liberalism.

As for your faith? I could not care less…

I suppose one just need to ask. Which side of the aisle is calling for divestiture from Israel?

Hint - It isn’t ours…

]]> By: jake http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47510 jake Sat, 10 May 2008 01:54:29 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47510 As a jew and liberal i am really offended by that mark. You are a bigot. Most jews are democrats because of church state issues and with no proof whats so ever you spew hate more than anyone on this site. Read what you write. As a jew and liberal i am really offended by that mark. You are a bigot. Most jews are democrats because of church state issues and with no proof whats so ever you spew hate more than anyone on this site. Read what you write.

]]> By: extramedium http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47459 extramedium Fri, 09 May 2008 18:27:42 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47459 Mark, There is certainly a lot to debate in what you've just said and I disagree with just about all of it, but first - what statements or actions from liberals do you hold to be antisemitic? In three statements from you, I still cannot determine how it is that you believe liberals are anti-semitic. Is it some sort of common knowledge that I'm not aware of, or something that need not be explicitly said? You've made a very serious allegation and so I must press - how is it that liberals are antisemitic? Yes I've been visiting your blog for some time and I'm well aware of your belief that liberalism equates to every form of evil - past, present and future - but please answer this simple question. Mark,

There is certainly a lot to debate in what you’ve just said and I disagree with just about all of it, but first - what statements or actions from liberals do you hold to be antisemitic? In three statements from you, I still cannot determine how it is that you believe liberals are anti-semitic. Is it some sort of common knowledge that I’m not aware of, or something that need not be explicitly said?

You’ve made a very serious allegation and so I must press - how is it that liberals are antisemitic? Yes I’ve been visiting your blog for some time and I’m well aware of your belief that liberalism equates to every form of evil - past, present and future - but please answer this simple question.

]]> By: Mark Noonan http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47421 Mark Noonan Fri, 09 May 2008 16:18:48 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47421 extra, Come now, you've been coming here long enough to know that I hold the left to be all that - communist, socialist, fascist, Nazi...its all of a piece; all part of a anti-God, anti-human, totalitarian mindset which has various manifestations, but all connected and, at bottom, all the same. I've been saying this for years. Its not a matter of my saying "liberals are Nazis", but a matter of my saying "liberals and Nazis develope their worldview from the same basic - and flawed - principles". The fundamental lie is that mankind is perfectable - that we can create the Kingdom of God here on earth. Once you fall into that trap, whether you wind up Nazi or communist is immaterial - either of them are just as bad as the other. You can fight tooth and nail against the Nazis, if you are a liberal, and while you think your fighting for good against evil, you're really just fighting for a different variety of the same evil - perhaps softer and more kindly, but just as evil in its long term effects (check out the way socialism, for instance, has destroyed Europe...no wars and no gas chambers, but Europe is dying today as much as it would have died 60 years ago had Hitler won). Your denial of the clear and unmistakable anti-Semitism on the left stems, I'll bet, from your conviction that liberal/left thought is anethema to anti-Semitic thought...that liberal can't be anti-Semite because anti-Semitism is a manifestation of the right, which the liberal battles against. Of course, what anti-Semitism really amounts to is a manifestation of wickedness - an evil desire to deny the fundamental brotherhood of mankind as decreed by God; all human beings can fall into wickedness, and that means that if a liberal is wicked, he can be an anti-Semite (or a racist, or a bank robber, or any one of a thousand different bad things). The worst thing for you liberals is that since your worldview is built on a lie - and must therefor be sustained by lies - you more easily fall into the trap of wickedness in the defense of your false worldview. The unexamined life really isn't worth living, extra, and the first step towards the cure of liberalism is to get liberals to actually examine what they've done. extra,

Come now, you’ve been coming here long enough to know that I hold the left to be all that - communist, socialist, fascist, Nazi…its all of a piece; all part of a anti-God, anti-human, totalitarian mindset which has various manifestations, but all connected and, at bottom, all the same. I’ve been saying this for years.

Its not a matter of my saying “liberals are Nazis”, but a matter of my saying “liberals and Nazis develope their worldview from the same basic - and flawed - principles”. The fundamental lie is that mankind is perfectable - that we can create the Kingdom of God here on earth. Once you fall into that trap, whether you wind up Nazi or communist is immaterial - either of them are just as bad as the other. You can fight tooth and nail against the Nazis, if you are a liberal, and while you think your fighting for good against evil, you’re really just fighting for a different variety of the same evil - perhaps softer and more kindly, but just as evil in its long term effects (check out the way socialism, for instance, has destroyed Europe…no wars and no gas chambers, but Europe is dying today as much as it would have died 60 years ago had Hitler won).

Your denial of the clear and unmistakable anti-Semitism on the left stems, I’ll bet, from your conviction that liberal/left thought is anethema to anti-Semitic thought…that liberal can’t be anti-Semite because anti-Semitism is a manifestation of the right, which the liberal battles against.

Of course, what anti-Semitism really amounts to is a manifestation of wickedness - an evil desire to deny the fundamental brotherhood of mankind as decreed by God; all human beings can fall into wickedness, and that means that if a liberal is wicked, he can be an anti-Semite (or a racist, or a bank robber, or any one of a thousand different bad things). The worst thing for you liberals is that since your worldview is built on a lie - and must therefor be sustained by lies - you more easily fall into the trap of wickedness in the defense of your false worldview.

The unexamined life really isn’t worth living, extra, and the first step towards the cure of liberalism is to get liberals to actually examine what they’ve done.

]]> By: OhioOrrin http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47416 OhioOrrin Fri, 09 May 2008 15:44:03 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47416 CO re #5 - no, if richardson is ON the ticket, then hill is NOT and she would carry the 40-60 white women. surveys show HALF of white women 40-60 will vote 4 McCain if ear bama is the nominee. I probably could've written my earlier comment alittle more clearly. CO re #5 - no, if richardson is ON the ticket, then hill is NOT and she would carry the 40-60 white women. surveys show HALF of white women 40-60 will vote 4 McCain if ear bama is the nominee.

I probably could’ve written my earlier comment alittle more clearly.

]]> By: grace http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47414 grace Fri, 09 May 2008 15:29:49 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47414 It is such a long time that the Jews have been monolithic. I do not understand it. When James Baker said "screw (or f) the jews, they don't vote for us anyway was our first clue. We must never be taken for granted. I have not had one Jewish E-mailer in anything but fear of Obama...now whether that translates into a McCain vote is something else. But if we do not vote for McCain, then it becomes a vote for Obama....Jews, wake up, this is really a turning point for us. It is such a long time that the Jews have been monolithic. I do not understand it. When James Baker said “screw (or f) the jews, they don’t vote for us anyway was our first clue. We must never be taken for granted. I have not had one Jewish E-mailer in anything but fear of Obama…now whether that translates into a McCain vote is something else. But if we do not vote for McCain, then it becomes a vote for Obama….Jews, wake up, this is really a turning point for us.

]]> By: Percy Beezer http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47409 Percy Beezer Fri, 09 May 2008 14:58:12 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47409 "liberals secretly love Hitler"? <a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2VkNDI2ZjljY2ViZjM5YzBmMTI1N2VkMDEyYjRkYWQ=" rel="nofollow">Nothing secret about it. </a> “liberals secretly love Hitler”?

Nothing secret about it.

]]> By: Zach http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47396 Zach Fri, 09 May 2008 13:08:40 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47396 "To get McCain elected - who’s a half-assed conservative to begin with?" Are you saying you'd prefer him to be more of a staunch conservative? “To get McCain elected - who’s a half-assed conservative to begin with?”

Are you saying you’d prefer him to be more of a staunch conservative?

]]> By: extramedium http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47373 extramedium Fri, 09 May 2008 07:06:21 +0000 http://blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/08/obamas-problem-with-the-democratic-vote/#comment-47373 Again - your vague assertion about anti-semitic statements from the left sounds like a hateful smear. I'm going to guess that you are referring to the popular conservative distortion that any criticism of Israeli policy equates to antisemitism. Or that anything other than unconditional support of Israeli policy is antisemitism. Perhaps that Jewish-American liberals are antisemites if they criticize expansion of settlements in the occupied territories. Or that questioning any sort of hawkish policy regarding Iran is inherently antisemitic. These would all be smears. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that liberals secretly love Hitler. I know that you are too smart to actually believe all these partisan lies and distortions, so that makes it extra shameful for you to propagate them. And for what? To get McCain elected - who's a half-assed conservative to begin with? Hardly worth sacrificing your credibility. Again - your vague assertion about anti-semitic statements from the left sounds like a hateful smear.

I’m going to guess that you are referring to the popular conservative distortion that any criticism of Israeli policy equates to antisemitism. Or that anything other than unconditional support of Israeli policy is antisemitism. Perhaps that Jewish-American liberals are antisemites if they criticize expansion of settlements in the occupied territories. Or that questioning any sort of hawkish policy regarding Iran is inherently antisemitic.

These would all be smears. Next thing you know, you’ll be telling me that liberals secretly love Hitler.

I know that you are too smart to actually believe all these partisan lies and distortions, so that makes it extra shameful for you to propagate them. And for what? To get McCain elected - who’s a half-assed conservative to begin with? Hardly worth sacrificing your credibility.

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