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Open Thread: Wednesday Morning

May 28th, 2008 at 09:09am Mark Noonan

The Defense of Marriage amendment to the California constitution is favored by 54% of California voters.

Given the trouble many people in the world have getting food each day, the Pope’s recent statement is appropriate:

“The Lord and Creator of all things became a ‘grain of wheat’ to be sown in our land, in the furrows of our history”, said the Pope. “He became bread in order to be …. shared; … He became our food in order to give us life, His own divine life”.

“The Eucharist is a school of charity and solidarity”, he went on. “Those who nourish themselves on the bread of Christ cannot remain indifferent before people who, even in our own time, are without daily bread. Many parents have great difficulty in feeding themselves and their children. It is an ever more serious problem which the international community struggles to resolve. The Church not only prays to ‘give us this day our daily bread’ but, following the example of her Lord, seeks in all ways ‘to multiply the five loaves and the two fish’, through countless initiatives of human promotion and participation so that no-one may lack what they need to live”.

“May the Feast of Corpus Christi be an occasion to increase this authentic concern for our brothers and sisters, especially the poor”, said Benedict XVI and he concluded by calling upon the Virgin Mary “from whom the Son of God drew flesh and blood”, to intercede to this end.

I like Food for the Poor and Missionaries of the Poor…but feel free to help out in any way you can.

McCain ahead of Obama in money on hand? So says McCain advisor Carly Fiorina The Hill.

Sales of new homes rose in April. This suprised the experts. It doesn’t surprise anyone who knows that when prices go down, you can move more product. Apparantly the “experts” figure we’re all dumb and only buy when prices are on the rise…

Dicuss these issues and any others you’d like.

Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Democrats, Economy, Foreign Affairs, Life Issues, Religion, Republicans, Social Issues, Welfare


74 Comments

  • 1. Danish Artist  |  May 28th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    THE U.N.’S CLIMATE FRAUD

    Billions of dollars are being wasted by the United Nations in order to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Academics and watchdog groups are now uncovering that the UN’s main offset fund is being abused by chemical, wind, gas and hydro companies that are claiming emissions reduction credit for projects that do not actually reduce any emissions. The result? Billions of your tax dollars down the drain to pay industries in developing countries that are not going what they are supposed to get paid to do: reduce emissions.

    This is all centered on the UN’s clean development mechanism (CDM), which was established by the Kyoto protocol. It allows rich countries to meet their emissions targets by funding clean energy projects in developing nations. But two researchers at Stanford University have examined more than 3,000 of these projects. While $10 billion has already been granted to these projects from the UN’s CDM funds, the research concluded that the majority should not be considered for assistance. According to one professor, it is looking like between one third and two thirds of all these projects do not actually cut emissions.

    Just for a moment, let’s get specific. These credits are earned by promising to reduce emissions in addition to those that would have taken place without the project. But researchers are saying that it is impossible to prove this “additionality” and therefore impossible to verify. In another case, nearly three quarters of all of these CDM projects were already completed by the time they received the UN money. So clearly, the money was not needed in order to finance the project, because it is already finished. However, these companies are still getting the extra income after the fact because it can never be proved that a developer or factory would not have done the project if they were not promised the offset income.

    So companies in richer nations are paying for these “clean” projects in “developing nations,” which are subsidized by this UN fund. These companies are paying this money in order to comply with the Kyoto protocol. And now we find out that perhaps two thirds of these “clean” projects are nothing but a complete joke. That sounds about right.

    The Liberal or UN Climate Scheme - anyway you say it, it is designed to defraud hard working people from their money.

  • 2. Magnum Serpentine  |  May 28th, 2008 at 9:31 am

    This is what Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan has to say about george and the george’s war in Iraq: (From MSNBC)

    “in a new memoir that the Iraq war was sold to the American people with a sophisticated “political propaganda campaign” led by President Bush and aimed at “manipulating sources of public opinion” and “downplaying the major reason for going to war.”

    “…He describes Bush as demonstrating a “lack of inquisitiveness,” says the White House operated in “permanent campaign” mode, and admits to having been deceived by some in the president’s inner circle about the leak of a CIA operative’s name.”

    “McClellan stops short of saying that Bush purposely lied about his reasons for invading Iraq, writing that he and his subordinates were not “employing out-and-out deception” to make their case for war in 2002.

    But in a chapter titled “Selling the War,” he alleges that the administration repeatedly shaded the truth and that Bush “managed the crisis in a way that almost guaranteed that the use of force would become the only feasible option.”

    “Over that summer of 2002,” he writes, “top Bush aides had outlined a strategy for carefully orchestrating the coming campaign to aggressively sell the war. . . . In the permanent campaign era, it was all about manipulating sources of public opinion to the president’s advantage.”

    McClellan, once a staunch defender of the war from the podium, comes to a stark conclusion, writing, “What I do know is that war should only be waged when necessary, and the Iraq war was not necessary.”

    Thats from MSNBC.

    Interesting… Very interesting.

  • 3. Pain  |  May 28th, 2008 at 10:03 am

    You have bad data my friend . . .

    . . . here is some help.

  • 4. Digdeep  |  May 28th, 2008 at 10:05 am

    McCelellan, … and the Iraq war was not necessary.” 2. Magnum Serpentine | May 28th, 2008 at 9:31 am

    Sounds like Scott, a member in the decision and propoganda process is feeling the guilt of 4000 lost lives, thousands of serious injuries, families devastated and loss of American prestige.

    Rats like McClellan turning on his fellow rats is to be expected.

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  • 6. Tractatus  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:20 am

    the Iraq war was sold to the American people with a sophisticated “political propaganda campaign” led by President Bush and aimed at “manipulating sources of public opinion” and “downplaying the major reason for going to war.”

    But that can’t be–Mark Noonan has already decreed that the Iraq war was sold in a purely honest and noble way, and Mark Noonan would certainly know better than ol’ Scotty.

  • 7. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:20 am

    So clearly none of the GOP advocates, neocons or Theocons saw the Scott McClellan book coming, eh? Well what did you expect after throwing him under the bus to protect Karl Rove from indictment for being a part of the Plame outing?

    Yet I am sure there will be those here who still will swear she wasn’t a covert operative. Please! Is it January 2009 yet?

  • 8. Pain  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:23 am

    It is rather fun to watch this.
    Poor Dana Perino.
    A nice big old dish of schadenfreude with sprinkles.
    This is almost as good as Fitzmas would have been.
    Almost.

  • 9. OhioOrrin  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:49 am

    back to greenhouse gasses (GHG) -

    I read an online condensed version of the 07 of the UN Food & Agri Cmte Rpt which stated that the GLOBAL CATTLE/PIG HERDS emit more GHG than….drum roll…

    …ALL FORMS OF GLOBAL TRANSPORT COMBINED!

    Extrapolating from this it could be argued that GLOBAL ANIMAL LIFE emits more GHG than mankind! AND THERE’S MORE ANIMAL LIFE THAN PEOPLE.

    This explains why the glaciers retreated many times before man was around (created or otherwise).

    THE ANIMALS FARTED THE GLACIERS AWAY!

    and don’t get me started on the ammonia in animal urine being the prime contaminate of groundwater.

    KILL THE ANIMALS BEFORE THEY KILL EARTH!

  • 10. Some Assembly Required  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:59 am

    OhioOrrin, I’m curious, did the article mention if how the cattle are herded was part of this problem? These emissions go through the roof when isolating and concentrating the population of cattle/pigs in a small area instead of allowing them to graze. Not to mention it promotes the spread of diseases such as Mad Cow or that minor incident in California a few months ago…

    So if your suggesting we hold beef manufacturers to more rigorous standards and curb this warehouse farming technique I agree completely.

  • 11. Some Assembly Required  |  May 28th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    A little Wednesday humor here

  • 12. jayhay  |  May 28th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    McClellan also said this:

    “If anything, the national press corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq.

    The collapse of the administration’s rationales for war, which became apparent months after our invasion, should never have come as such a surprise. . . . In this case, the “liberal media” didn’t live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served.”

  • 13. Street Riot  |  May 28th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    One of McClellan’s best quotes was. . . . “In this case, the “liberal media” didn’t live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served.”

    I think this statement exposes the “liberal media myth” for what it is; a conservative scare tactic. Today’s media is controlled by a few for profit corporations; the days of the Walter Conkrites and Dan Rathers exposing government corruption are long gone.

  • 14. CanadianObserver  |  May 28th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    13. Street Riot | May 28th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    One of McClellan’s best quotes was. . . . “In this case, the “liberal media” didn’t live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served.
    ———————————
    Helen Thomas, the one White House press corps member with integrity, who had the gumption to repeatedly ask the hard questions, was mercilessly attacked for doing so.

    I could never understand why.

  • 15. Some Assembly Required  |  May 28th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    I wonder how McCain’s stance on moving the war forward will hold up after this? Or even making Bush’s tax cuts permanent. When someone fairly high in the Bush administration says, “I’ve had enough this administration is a failure”. Should be interesting.

    No thread on Scotty though. Guess they have to wait for the talking points to be passed around. I’m thinking something along the lines of Scotty was a closet liberal leftwing loon. Or, it’s false because We’re ‘winning’ this war we’ve already ‘won’.

  • 16. OhioOrrin  |  May 28th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    SAR - the rpt did not specifiy as 2 herded or free-range that I recall.

    if cattle or pigs fart the same whether in a group or alone, then the total farts would remain constant per hundred head regardless.

    here I sit all broken hearted…

  • 17. Some Assembly Required  |  May 28th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    “if cattle or pigs fart the same whether in a group or alone, then the total farts would remain constant per hundred head regardless.”

    That made me chuckle which in turn made me forget myself and release some GHG here in the office. God help us all. I think the temperature just went up too.

  • 18. OhioOrrin  |  May 28th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    meanwhile back at the pump…

    “Falling oil use catches up to high prices.
    U.S. demand for oil-based products continues to slump, sending prices down below $130 a barrel.”

    ya gotta luv this -

    “There is a very limited demand for fuel oil in the U.S.,” said Stephen Schork, editor of energy industry newsletter The Schork Report. “Consumers are responding to high prices, which makes the rapid rise in crude oil of the last few weeks hard to sell.”

    catch that last part?

    then this -

    “As the U.S. economy has deteriorated in the past six months, many investors have engaged in speculative trading of commodities such as oil to serve as a hedge against a generally weakened dollar. Banks’ predictions of rising prices only gives credence to oil traders that their investment will deliver a strong return.”

    what many investors have…speculated? not 401K people I’d bet.

    the SEC should require registered traders of any commodity to PHYSICALLY POSSESS the commodity at some point in the logistics train.

  • 19. Rana Quijotesca  |  May 28th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Ohio-

    Unfortunately, that’s not the way that commodity trading works. It hasn’t worked that way since it’s inception in the late 1800’s. One line I like from the time was, “People buying what they don’t need to sell it to people that don’t want it.”

    Any thoughts on the recent rejection of two endorsements of Evangelical Preachers by the McCain campaign?

    Also–I’d just like to throw this out there: Support for the political state of Israel does not equal support for the Jewish people as a whole.

    Many evangelical Christians don’t like the Jews as a people, but support the state of Israel as a way to induce the Second Coming (hell… I’ve met a few personally–ever hear of the Tate Preacher?)

  • 20. OhioOrrin  |  May 28th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    rana - “unfortunately” is correct.

    oil speculators, sorry - traders don’t explore, discover, drill, extract, store, transport, refine, nor retail.

    they are therefore nothing more than ticks on a milkcow.

    and we’re doing nothing to de-tick the cow.

    as 2 ministers, don’t care - here’s why:

    as a indie centrist from a purple state (there’s more registered indies in my congressional district than dems AND gop combined) I already decided to vote checks n balance.

    ex - here in ohio, we have a dem gov & a gop legislature. the solutions must therefore be found in the center & the extremists are forced 2 the back bench.

    same at the fed level. dem congress = vote gop 4 prez to establish checks n balance. same reason I voted 4 clinton in ‘96 w a gop congress.

    I agree w the founding fathers about cks n balance & that we the people SUFFER our govt.

    Imagine that rana - a constitutionally grounded reason to vote pattern rather than party.

  • 21. Brett Michaels  |  May 28th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Phnx claims to be a medical device inventor that saves lives on a daily basis…mostly babies…

    Yo phnx…care to post a link to your website or hell…just your patent #
    Maybe you are too busy sailing on your yacht.
    ROLFMAO

    I love the internet..you can pretend who you want to be.

  • 22. Street Riot  |  May 28th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Helen Thomas, …was mercilessly attacked for doing so. 14. CanadianObserver | May 28th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    That is nothing compared to what will happen to Scotty. By the end of the week this Austin Texas neocon will be Swift-boated before our eyes into a liberal mouth piece from Massachusetts. The Cons will probably also throw in a few un-Americans, un-patriotics and appeaser for good measure.

  • 23. Pain  |  May 28th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    22. Street Riot | May 28th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Too late it’s already started at the Free Republic

  • 24. majoriot  |  May 28th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    Hmmm, other polls seem to differ ( not that that is anything new)

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hZmLBrL36NObNyMR0ghXN7vB5hYwD90UOE5O1

  • 25. Steve  |  May 28th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    “That is nothing compared to what will happen to Scotty. By the end of the week this Austin Texas neocon will be Swift-boated before our eyes into a liberal mouth piece from Massachusetts. The Cons will probably also throw in a few un-Americans, un-patriotics and appeaser for good measure.”

    You got that right lol! I’ve already seen them call his mother a whore! I wonder if Bush said he has doubts about whether his own presidency was flawed if they would throw him to the wolves too. I do love when they eat their own. You’d think eventually they’d be full though, with so many dissenters condeming them. Thank God Powell didnt speak up so he could maintain his reputation and not be denegrated by these fair weather friends.

  • 26. CanadianObserver  |  May 28th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    So with more and more evidence piling up collaborating the fact that Bush and his administration was a train wreck from the get go, it appears that those who insisted that no other President in the history of the United States could beat George W. will now have to admit they were a more than a little wrong.

    Of course, we all know that they will never admit to being hoodwinked. It’s better to kill all the messengers and keep the lie alive.

  • 27. David B. Schmidt  |  May 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    What McClellan said in his press briefing on March 22, 2004 when asked about Richard Clarke’s book blasting the Bush Administration for 9/11 and CIA intelligence failures:

    MR. McCLELLAN: Well, why, all of a sudden, if he (Richard Clarke) had all these grave concerns, did he not raise these sooner? This is one-and-a-half years after he left the administration. And now, all of a sudden, he’s raising these grave concerns that he claims he had. And I think you have to look at some of the facts. One, he is bringing this up in the heat of a presidential campaign. He has written a book and he certainly wants to go out there and promote that book.

    Don’t think it had anything at all with the release of his book then?

    H/T: MM

    BTW, VP Cheney’s office had nothing to do with the outing of Plame. Try to get your facts straight for once. Richard Armitage took full credit and was not a Bush supporter.

  • 28. Street Riot  |  May 28th, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    According to McClellan the Iraq war was never about WMD or America being at risk. Now we have it confirmed by an insider it was a sad attempt to democratize a country on the cheap.

    To think, all those Limbaugh and Hannity shows devoted to attacking ordinary citizens as un-American and unpatriotic for attacking the neocons war policy. What the neocons did to the Wilsons was almost McCarthy like. This will be one of the saddest chapters in American history.

  • 29. Timmy J. Rooter  |  May 28th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Imagine, and administration that actually supported regime change and doing everything possible to bring about a democracy to stabilize a volatile region.

    “This Act makes clear that it is the sense of the Congress that the United States should support those elements of the Iraqi opposition that advocate a very different future for Iraq than the bitter reality of internal repression and external aggression that the current regime in Baghdad now offers. . . . On October 21, 1998, I signed into law the Omnibus Consolidated and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act, 1999, which made $8 million available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition. . . My Administration, as required by that statue, has also begun to implement a program to compile information regarding allegations of genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes by Iraq’s current leaders as a step towards bringing to justice those directly responsible for such acts.” Bill Clinton

    You’d swear it was US policy or something.

  • 30. Street Riot  |  May 28th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act, 1999, which made $8 million available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition 29. Timmy J. Rooter | May 28th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    It took 29 post before there was a blame it on Clinton post.

    Wow $8 million to collect crimes against humanity information. Now that is democracy on the cheap. Hell the Bushies can’t account for billions in Iraq.

    Turns out it is not all bad for Scotty. Rove paid him a complement; called him a left wing blogger.

    Do you think if McCain is elected he will continue to look for those WMDs? wink wink

  • 31. Dennis  |  May 28th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    Deleted - cheap shot.

  • 32. John Ryan  |  May 28th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    when the Supreme Court legalized interracial marriages 72% of Americans were opposed to interracial marriage.

  • 33. neocon  |  May 28th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    My hats off to the liberals. I am not aware of any other subset of people that are capable of regurgitating the same propaganda, and talking points for over five years.

    They are much better trained than I gave them credit for.

  • 34. neocon  |  May 28th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    I can no more disown Scotty than I can my typical white grandmother.

    Unless he says something stupid next week, of course, then I will throw him under the bus, depsite a 20 year relationship.

    I tell you it’s difficult when you come from a family that helped liberate Auschwitz and you’re traveling around the 57 states. And I didn’t even ask the world community how much I could for eat for lunch today. But I do have my thermostat at 72…..don’t tell anyone.

  • 35. neocon  |  May 28th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    And obviously our resident liberals are interested in reading some inside accounts of the WH.

    I recommend the following:

    “Taking Heat: The President, the Press, and My Years in the White House.” Ari Fleischer

    But somehow I think this book wont suit their fancy.

  • 36. jerry  |  May 28th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Is the Holy Father going to meet with Ahmadinijad (sp?). If he does is that appeasement?

  • 37. Jeremiah  |  May 28th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    What I don’t understand is why the people in California were’nt completely and utterly outraged at the time the Supreme Court made their decision…It looks like people would have bombarded the doors to that place and when those judges came down from their High and Mighty Throne of “judgement” they would have demanded some answers…

    These liberal activist judges just can’t keep going without giving an account for their misguided opinions being put into effect.

  • 38. CanadianObserver  |  May 28th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    33. neocon | May 28th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    All the ugliness that constitutes the current administration is being unearthed, neocon, and as hard as it might be for loyal supporters such as yourself to accept the truth, in the end, you’ll have no choice.

  • 39. Tom Thumb  |  May 28th, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    New topic:

    McCain’s economic advisor and former Senator Phil Gramm has ties to the subprime mortgage crisis. He was a lobbyist for UBS, which worked to deregulate the housing market, which in turn led to the current real estate fiasco.

    We now have documented evidence linking Gramm not only to the subprime crisis, but to the massive increase in oil futures trading, and thus the rapid increase in the price of gasoline. Thus, perhaps MAIN economic advisor is linked in no uncertain terms to BOTH causes of the current economic situation in the U.S.

    I submit that, in a reasonable world, this would sink McCain’s campaign.

    If Phil Gramm is the guy he listens to, now we know WHY he’s clueless regarding economics.

  • 40. Pain  |  May 28th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    37. Jeremiah | May 28th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    The fourth vote in favor of same sex marriage came by a generally conservative leaning member, Chief Jusrtice Ron George, appointed by a republican governor, Pete Wilson in 1991.

    The problem is not that the people are outraged it is that your sort of “stone them because the Bible says so” idea of Christianity had been passed by in Time.

  • 41. Jeremiah  |  May 28th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    The problem is not that the people are outraged it is that your sort of “stone them because the Bible says so” idea of Christianity had been passed by in Time.–Pain.

    No, that’s not what I said…You’re not paying attention.

    Why? I say Why…Aren’t the people outraged over the Supreme Court’s blatantly incompetent decision to defy the WILL OF THE PEOPLE??

    With the MAJORITY against it….why didn’t they go in when the judges made the decision and drag them out of that Court and throw them out of that Courthouse and say, ‘Now we’re not going to stand for your tyrannical rule any more.’

    People are going to have to get a backbone and stand up for what they believe in, and stop these stupid judges! People are going to have to get over their fear of Liberals so called “constitutional law.”

    Liberal Judges are killing America!!!

  • 42. Jeremiah  |  May 28th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    One thing I noticed…at the very end of the article, it says that “Younger voters are more likely to be in favor of homosexual marriages.”

    That would be true, but I wonder why?

    Well, when we consider what has happened to our society over the last 5 or 6 decades we can see that the uprise in very anti-Christian groups such as the ACLU, AUFSoCaS, AAA, NAMBLA, GLBT, and other such anti-Semitic, anti-American, anti-God, anti-Constitution, anti-Defense, anti-Learning, anti-Good Ethics, anti-Morality, anti-Everything it’s not wonder children grow up so confused and brainwashed.

    The primary focus of these groups is to destroy the family unit - Encouraging Sodomy, encouraging fornication, encouraging adultery, encouraging indecent sex acts, encouraging & protecting pedophilia, encouraging & protecting bestiality.

    They’re EVIL!!!!!EVIL!!!!!!!EVIL!!!!!!…..EVIL!!!!!!!

    Their ideologies are straight from Hell!!! They invent EVIL!!!They are Satanic minded. They are reprobates, and they are Arrogant and Boastful of their EVIL mindedness. They have no heart! They have no sense! They are full of Envy and Deceit. They are full of malice for mankind.

    How?…..HOW? Because God’s people REFUSE to serve Him.

    ‘There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one. Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit. The poison of vipers is on their lips. Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness. Their feet are swift to shed blood; ruin and misery mark their ways, and the way of peace they do not know. There is no fear of God before their eyes.’

    The law cannot save one person…

    Therefore, the WHOLE WORLD WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!

  • 43. flimflamman  |  May 28th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    Deleted - insults and, oddly enough, blasphemy.

  • 44. Jeremiah  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    …I mean, for the Love of America, when will people very wake up and realize where they’re heading this country?

    Look at those poor those poor people in China….Man, my heart goes out to those poor folk, and many people here in the States and around the world succumbing to tragedy every day. I turned on the news today, and there before my eyes, as is they case most of the time I turn the news on was a train wreck in Chicago, Illinois, and shootings, and tornadoes, and robbings, people dying from cancer, young folks in their teens and twenties dying daily from drug overdoses and drug abuse, sexually transmitted diseases going rampant because our STATE run school systems say “Ah! It’s ok, go ahead…if it feels good do it.” On and on the list goes…

    And here we are, we’ve been blessed abundantly beyond measure…

    The Lord is trying to tell America and the world something, folks…And I believe with all of my heart that Jesus is returning soon.

    Are you ready? Don’t wait…Accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior today!!! Today is the day, not tomorrow, or next week, or next year….no…Today is the day!

  • 45. phnx  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    Brett,

    For some reason you have directed considerable unwarranted hostility at me. To what do I owe the honor? Are you suffering from Delayed Post Traumatic Stress? I have no interest in posting personal information so that I might be harassed by individuals such as you. However I will send Mark sufficient information to permit him to vouch for my credentials.

    In the meantime, I wish you the very best of success in your chosen field, be that the military or civilian life. However, I have noted a distinctly negative undertone to all of your posts, regardless of whom they are directed. Years from now, when you look back on your life’s work, I hope that you are as proud of your contributions to humanity as I am of mine. In the event that you are not, don’t blame you failure on racism, as I suspect you might, blame it on your attitude.

  • 46. neocon  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    CO,

    There’s nothing in that book that isn’t already known. It’s just more of the same pomp and circumstance liberals like to beat their chests about and claim outrage until the media lights are turned off. And then their highly effective House and Senate leaders will be sure to get something done…….not.

    You people are so transparent.

  • 47. Brett Michaels  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    Phnx,
    lol! I was merely amused at the fact when asked what have you done lately…the first thing that came to your mind was something materialistic.
    Not hostility at all…just amusement.
    Materialism seems to be pretty common among the people on here that claim to be conservatives. Reviewing the previous blog, they frequently bragged about their portfolio, how well their 401k, was doing, etc.
    Never once heard how well their marriages were doing.

    Always focusing on the materialistic items in life.

    PS: Im already successful. It was dream to follow my grandfather into the Marines and I did….life is good.

  • 48. Brett Michaels  |  May 28th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Jeremiah,
    THe reason California voters didnt storm the Supreme Court is the average person could care less if two homo’s want to have a civil union/marriage/whatever they want to call it.

    Instead they are more concerned about rising fuel costs and rising food costs. They are worried if their house is worth 50% less than it was 6 months ago.

    gays getting married? Non-issue. The only people worked up over it are people with too much time on their hands.

  • 49. Jeremiah  |  May 29th, 2008 at 12:00 am

    the average person could care less–Brett Michaels.

    And did you know, Mr. Michaels, that that, is the very reason America is suffering in general….that whenever people take the focus off the morality of their families and most importantly to Almighty God in favor of their material possessions…and is the reason that He turns His blessings away?

    Yeah, that’s a fact…He says, ‘Ok, you want to have it your way … I’ll let you have it your way’ and that’s when people start to suffer…but we haven’t seen half of what is to come … then, is when people will start to think. Let’s just hope it’s not too late…

  • 50. Matt Margolis  |  May 29th, 2008 at 12:22 am

    21. Brett Michaels | May 28th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Phnx claims to be a medical device inventor that saves lives on a daily basis…mostly babies…

    Yo phnx…care to post a link to your website or hell…just your patent #

    Maybe you are too busy sailing on your yacht.
    ROLFMAO

    I love the internet..you can pretend who you want to be.

    Brett, for your information, Phnx has contacted me directly with multiple links proving what he said was true.

  • 51. mike  |  May 29th, 2008 at 12:30 am

    Deleted - obscenity; commenter to be banned.

  • 52. Mark Noonan  |  May 29th, 2008 at 1:13 am

    From what I understand, McClellan says he was duped in the matter of Plame’s “outing”…but given that Plame wasn’t covert and, additionally, wasn’t “outed”, I find this to be a rather curious assertion.

    Be that as it may - President Bush will soon be able to go home to Texas, where he’ll have plenty of time to get the knives out of his back…and as for McClellan…well, I pray that what he wrote is what he sincerely believes is the truth…’cause if its not, then he might well gain the whole world, but he might lose something of greater import.

  • 53. Magnum Serpentine  |  May 29th, 2008 at 2:24 am

    george will be remembered as the worse president in the history of the United States. Whatever problems george has, he caused them himself.

    McClellan will be remembered as a hero for standing up against george.

  • 54. Gaijin  |  May 29th, 2008 at 2:26 am

    Jeremiah Springfield,

    “The Lord is trying to tell America and the world something, folks…And I believe with all of my heart that Jesus is returning soon.”

    Congrats! You are now the billionth person to say that who will die without ever seeing Jesus return! It will never happen man. I think you maybe functionally insane. You should seek help. I assure you your world view greatly differs from reality. Some of the others hear might not want to tell you this, but you do need help.

    Peace, Gaijin

  • 55. Jeremiah  |  May 29th, 2008 at 2:39 am

    Congrats! You are now the billionth person to say that who will die without ever seeing Jesus return! It will never happen man.–Gaijin.

    How tragically wrong…and wrong you are.

    All will see Him, friend, but not all will get their reward.

    ‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘Every knee will bow before me; and every tongue will confess to God.’

    So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.

    Let us therefore strive to do what is right and Holy before His sight, and though we may not gain it completely let us also strive to obtain righteousness, which means more than all the universe on display to God.

  • 56. Mark Noonan  |  May 29th, 2008 at 3:08 am

    Gaijin,

    I make no presumptions on knowing when Jesus will return, but return he will…personally, I hope to be long gone from this world when that event happens…but what will be, will be. Other than the knowledge he will return, the only other thing we actually know about it is that it will happen when least expected, in the general sense (whether or not any particular people will get an inkling of what is coming is beyond my power to judge).

    Meanwhile, for you to say that Jeremiah needs help over this betrays a rank anti-religious bigotry on your part - at least one in three of your fellow human beings agree with Jeremiah on this one. You can arrogantly presume that you are smarter than all of them, or you can - just perhaps - humble yourself a little bit and understand that there are many things you don’t know, and much you can learn - even from Jeremiah.

  • 57. Pain  |  May 29th, 2008 at 4:41 am

    52. Mark Noonan | May 29th, 2008 at 1:13 am
    From what I understand, McClellan says he was duped in the matter of Plame’s “outing”…but given that Plame wasn’t covert and, additionally, wasn’t “outed”, I find this to be a rather curious assertion.

    Mr Noonan you write about McClellan’s Soul and the nature of Ms Plame-Wilson’s status at Langley with both eyes closed do you not?

  • 58. Pain  |  May 29th, 2008 at 4:44 am

    44. Jeremiah | May 28th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    We, Ourselves have gleaned a small mote of Truth from what you say. There is a small chance that THE END IS NIGH!”

  • 59. neocon  |  May 29th, 2008 at 9:05 am

    “Mr Noonan you write about McClellan’s Soul and the nature of Ms Plame-Wilson’s status at Langley with both eyes closed do you not?” - Pain

    Pain,

    Do you support the indictment and prosecution of Richard Armitage?

  • 60. Danish Artist  |  May 29th, 2008 at 10:10 am

    At least they have “free” health care…….

    What is in store if liberal BHO has his way, no wonder he is against tax holiday on gasoline/diesel.

    Think Gas is High? Try Europe
    Wednesday, May. 28, 2008
    By BRUCE CRUMLEY/PARIS

    A truck driver makes a call during a blockade of the A40 road on May 27, 2008 in London. Hundreds of truckers protested at the increasing cost of fuel.

    American motorists are understandably grumbling over skyrocketing gas prices as the summer travel season approaches. But their pain hardly registers against the rage afoot in Europe these days. Fishermen, truck drivers and farmers are threatening to bring entire economic sectors to a halt with protests against crippling fuel costs. The wave of angry action is expected to spread further across Europe in coming days, despite efforts by political leaders to feel the pain and figure out how to alleviate it.

    Strikes and blockades staged over the past three weeks by French fishermen spread this week to Spanish ports; Italy, Portugal, and Greece expect more of the same on Friday as mariners seek to force national governments to offset marine diesel prices, which have shot up by 40% since January. Single boat owners and entire trawler fleets face a real threat of bankruptcy.

    Matters are no better on land. On Tuesday, hundreds of British truck drivers in London and Cardiff brought traffic to a crawl in a campaign to get their government to lower taxes on diesel fuel, which now costs over $11 per U.S. gallon (3.8 liters). Other businesses owners who rely heavily on gas use — including farmers, ambulance and taxi drivers, and private bus companies — have joined the protest movement or are preparing to do so.

    Those labor protests reflect the hit millions of Europeans are taking at the gas pump. As American drivers groan over prices nearing $4 a gallon, the French are paying $8.67 for a gallon of super, compared to $7.10 in January, 2007. A gallon of diesel in French gas stations averages $8.54, up from $5.35 just a year ago. And in the U.K. diesel costs $11.50 per gallon, compared to around $3.90 in the U.S. Across the European Union, the average cost of a gallon of gas runs to about $8.70 — more than twice what Americans are shelling out to fill up. And Europe’s dizzying fuel costs would be even worse if it weren’t for the considerable appreciation of the euro and the British pound against the dollar over the past year, which has partially offset the price escalation in dollar-traded oil.

    One big reason for the difference is that European governments put a much higher tax burden on fuel than the U.S. does. State and federal taxes currently make up just 11% of the pump price in the U.S., according to the Energy Information Administration; in France and the U.K., taxes account for an average of around 70%.

    Given the growing chorus of angry protests, it isn’t surprising that leaders across Europe have begun scurrying for ways to provide some relief at the pump. But their margin for maneuver is limited. On Tuesday, for example, French President Nicolas Sarkozy proposed suspending most value-added tax (VAT) on gas, a measure he said would mean as much as $267 million in savings per quarter to those hit hardest by fuel price increases. VAT rates on gasoline across Europe range from 15% to over 20%, so it’s little wonder that Sarkozy’s proposal was backed by leaders in Italy and Spain as a painless way to lower prices.

    But as Sarkozy himself acknowledged, no nation among the European Union’s 27 member states can make such a move without the unanimous approval of the others. Meanwhile, some observers warn that suspending VAT, like the proposed “gas holiday” for U.S. drivers, would deprive governments of sorely needed tax revenues and encourage producers to soak up most of the temporary cost cut. “Changing taxation on fuels in order to combat increasing prices would send a wrong message to producing countries,” said E.U. energy spokesman Ferran Terradellas. “This would show them they could increase prices and that the citizens would have to pay.”

    Others suggest that such short-term efforts to reduce fuel costs send the wrong message anyway to drivers who need to cut consumption. Polls show that 70% of gas-rattled British voters are now unwilling to pay higher taxes to combat climate change. That hasn’t stopped some European leaders from taking the bitter pill approach, arguing that today’s pain over surging gas prices should be used to encourage longer-term environmental gain. “We don’t need one-shot measures,” Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet, the French secretary of state for the environment, told parliament following Sarkozy’s proposal, “but rather to free ourselves from oil.” True enough. But that’s cold comfort for truck drivers, fishermen, and summer vacationers who can’t afford to fill up in the meantime.
    ————————

    Europe does not have the oil reserves we do. This is all the more reason we should be exploiting our own sources in the short term and still look long term for alternatives. The alternatives will not help in the short run, since no infrastructure has been built nor a viable cost effective alternative has been found.

    Hint: we still need oil for other products - lubricants, asphalt, plastics, etc. etc.

    The liberals need to stop listening and catering to their special interests. Wait, I thought only non-liberals did that.

  • 61. Pain  |  May 29th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    59. neocon | May 29th, 2008 at 9:05 am

    Yes indeed We do!

  • 62. Pain  |  May 29th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    60. Danish Artist | May 29th, 2008 at 10:10 am

    This has very little to do with drilling for oil. If you could drill your way out of high oil prices Danish Artist there would be no need for a commodities market. 70% of the price of gasoline in the UK is taxes much of that tax is paid to NHS. I am sure that most uninsured Americans would be willing to pay more for gasoline to get free health care.

    The trucking strikes are union versus government issues more so than purely issues of pump costs. Savvy French truckers know this is the best way to get the government to the table and We personally like Sarkozy’s idea of dropping the VAT.

    The average Briton makes 5 dollars an hour more than the average American, gets free health care and drives 40% fewer miles per year with cars that have an average 2.25 times better gas mileage. Do the math, the SUV lifestyle of living in the exurbs and working in the city causes more of this high oil than lack to drilling it is a consumption supply issue not a production supply issue.

  • 63. Danish Artist  |  May 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Pain,

    At the rate we are going, we will be paying that much in gasoline/diesel due to the shortsightedness of liberals and their special interests. Who have artificially shortened supply as effectively as OPEC. Yes, you cannot dismiss the price of oil in the price of fuel. We have both problems now, shortage of oil and shortage of refining - thanks to the same shortsightedness of liberals and their special interests.

    And if BHO has his way, we may be paying for healthcare that way too. So, at the rate we are going, we will be paying more than Europe for that fuel.

    I sorry you have problems with subtlety.

  • 64. Brett Michaels  |  May 29th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    DA,

    Shortage in refinery capacity?!
    http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_wiup_dcu_nus_w.htm

    Im sorry you have problems with facts.

  • 65. FmrMarine  |  May 29th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    BM = ANGRY racist negro.

    Comes to a conservative site, CLAIMING to be a republican, conservative, Marine and turns out to be an al sharpton kool aid drinking rat…WAY to funny.

  • 66. Pain  |  May 29th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    65. FmrMarine | May 29th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Tell Us what you really think FM

  • 67. FmrMarine  |  May 29th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    BM =

    Try this
    http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/wcrrius2w.htm

    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_the_us_lack_sufficient_oil_refining.html
    Current causes of rising oil prices
    Shortages related to increased consumption (China and India’s increased energy needs and industrialization of third world)
    Shortage related to lack of capacity to produce more (Saudi Arabia basic production rates at max, Russia’s production rates falling, Nigeria’s unofficial civil war, Iraq’s civil war and insurgency against US occupation expressed by pipe line breakage)
    Inflation of oil prices related to collapse of dollar’s value (Fed interest rates, tie of the local currency of the Gulf States and that of Saudi Arabia to the value of the US dollar, inflated costs of drilling new wells, inflated costs of new drilling platforms)
    Speculation on the future price of oil (affected by Iranian naval small boats percieved to be interfering with shipping in the Gulf region, US’s percieved military threats from Iranian irregulars, pipeline severance in Iraq and Nigeria and Columbia and Bolivia, Saudi Arabian storage of future production in ground rather than in holding tanks)

  • 68. FmrMarine  |  May 29th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    pain from “hells leading newspaper”

    What more is there to say?

    I usually tactfully do.

  • 69. Danish Artist  |  May 29th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    No BM,

    LOL!! Refineries operating at 85%+ is considered operating at capacity!

    I know, because I worked for a refinery that was hit by Katrina, which was down for almost 1 year. There were two refineries in that town.

    Refineries are not capable of running at rates higher than that since there are upsets, down time, refit and turnarounds. There is a theoretical maximum capacity based on continuous operation for 365 days and no down time. That is how the final capacity is measured.

    So, your fantasies do not match realities.

    When was the last time a refinery was built in this country?

    Again, where is the “common sense” legislation for oil*gas from the Democrats?

  • 70. FmrMarine  |  May 29th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    BM
    see if this works

    http://picasaweb.google.com/rockwells10/NamPics

  • 71. FmrMarine  |  May 29th, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    Mark

    In the pics of the village near the Rock Pile, the clouds in the background were explosions from a B-52 strike 1.5 - 2 miles away.

    These were posted at BM’s request, to attest to my authenticity of being a Marine.
    beat those NUG!

  • 72. phnx  |  May 29th, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    Seems like Brett questions everyone’s bonifides, and yet no one has questioned his.

    So Brett, how about proving to us that you are a Marine, and have some combat experience.

    We already know that you are not a conservative, since you have yet to espouse any conservative opinions.

    “I love the internet..you can pretend who you want to be.” BM

  • 73. Jeremiah  |  May 30th, 2008 at 12:07 am

    I turned on the news this evening, and I almost jumped clear to the ceiling … I thought a mountain lion had done attacked somebody, or at least that we what it sounded like…What in the world is all this screaming about???

    There, on National TV was a priest villifying Hillary Clinton, and he actually said the D word while he was preaching….

    From what I understand, the sermon was aired on NBC as a direct attack on Hillary without any villification of BHO…which is understandable.

    The Liberal news media, which comprises most of the networds these days, wants BHO to win so badly…Why? Well, for what other reason, than to push candidacy in support of the homosexual agenda, Murder of infants, and hate campaigning against President Bush…just like the book that Mr. McClellan just wrote, the Liberals are pushing it just so they can advance their hate campaign…As Mr. Morris so aptly stated - ‘all it is is empty rhetoric’. And I already knew that, as most people with a level-head do know how liberals truly are.

  • 74. reurvituiff  |  July 19th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

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    Oh what I wouldn t give to have been a fly on the wall during this luncheon. Here is Heidi Montag having lunch with Meghan McCain, who is none other than the daughter of Republican Presidential Candidate John McCain. And yes, Heidi is boring as usual with her straight blonde locks that never change. Meghan of course does not have the most inspiring hairstyle, but when your dad is running for President of the United States, fading into the background is much more requisite than standing out amongst the crowd. Heidi dressed as conservative as even she could I suppose, and styled her hair in the same boring style with the flat iron and the side part. One would think that if you are somewhat of a starlet and are going to be seen with the daughter of a Presidential candidate you might make more of an effort. However, maybe Heidi doesn t even understand the whole Presidential thing who knows! Shake it up Heidi! Her hairstyle is getting as about as boring as her storyline.
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