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• 1. Just Another Taxpayer  |  June 4th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

  Doesn’t seem like anyone here has any. Could it be that Olmert and Bush are boht as about irrelevant to that issue as you can get?

• 2. Rich  |  June 4th, 2008 at 5:09 pm

  Just another taxpayer- What do you think about Obama’s speech about eliminating Iran as a threat? He has said as president he will use any means necessary to stop them from getting a nuclear bomb. Just a few weeks ago he said Iran was a small threat. So what has changed? Also, will you call Obama a bloodthirsty chickenhawk (no military experience) if as president he uses military force to stop iran? Why would he need to use military force? I thought his mind control speechifying would make Iran’s mullahs sing kumbaya?

• 3. Just Another Taxpayer  |  June 4th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

  I had to say soemthing, Rich. For that I apologize. I wasn’t speaking to this post as much as observing the absence of any response to posts whcih in 2004 would’ve garnered dozens of responses by now.
  As far as Obama goes, he’s just another politician. It’s nice that anyone can be a pol here but like any leader these days, he tells people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear. We are going through some structural corrections right now globally which will leave us in the dust.
  Easy money, cheap food, magical appreciation of stocks and real estate , reckless abuse of what little influence we have
  left in the world has finally come home to roost.
  The world will simply move on without us. Events in the mid east are simply beyond our control. Rovian democracy as the Chinese and Russians demonstrated is not necessary for prosperity. Our enemies have cash and plenty of it. We go begging to the Saudis for oil when 15 of their citizens committed the despicable acts of 9/11, and can’t the Iraqis to give us a single drop after we’ve sacrificed 4000 of our people, and half a trillion dollars. This is the world Bush has made.
  We need to look to ourselves if we’re going to undue the damage Bush has done. No ones calling for us to do that. No one.
  Have a nice day.

• 4. Kahn  |  June 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

  BHO Speech - November 5 2010:

  I know that some people say that my policies led to the deaths of almost half of the people of Israel. But Say Enough Concern with the Dead! We are concerned with the living! And I say… more than half of Israelis are ALIVE!

• 5. Some Assembly Required  |  June 4th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

  “BHO Speech - November 5 2010:” - Kahn

  At least you admit he will be president come November. As for the rest of it, not even worth a comment.

  JAT, your spot on. The super power known as the US is crumbling. I think it can be saved, but it needs to be reshaped in order to do so. We need to start thinking about our own country first before we even dare to meddle in the affairs of the rest of the world at this point in time. Healthcare, Infrastructure, social security, education and technology are key. Specifically technology and science, where the last 8 years we have turned to ‘the bible’ the rest of the world (including our enemies) have been innovating and producing new technologies. The power no longer falls in the hands of the nation with the biggest stick, but the smartest people.

  From where we stand right now, Iran are pretty much laughing at us. Why? Because they know full well any conventional war we threaten against them will not happen because it will economically destroy the US. A nuclear attack is unthinkable because of the global consequences. Not to mention we would then be fighting a Three front war in an already unstable region of the world. Furthermore, attacking Iran could very well unite the entire Islamic world against Us. I don’t know about you, but over 1/3 of the worlds population is not an enemy which you want to underestimate because they live in the desert.

  How would you avoid something like this if they continue to develop nuclear weapons? Heres a thought, how about talking to them and coming to some sort of compromise. Who suggested that?

• 6. Kahn  |  June 4th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

  Science fiction SAR.

  He’s on record saying he’ll slash the defece budget. Stop new weapons development. And pull out of the mid-east.

  It’s what the left wants. Why lie about it. He’s honest about it, why can’t you all be?

  watch him speak for himself
  http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_053008/home.guest.html

• 7. Kahn  |  June 4th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

  If I was running Israel - I’d seriously consider delivering an ultimatum to Iraq if Obama wins. I’d do it quickly, before Obama could take office.

  Since he’s removing all the sticks, Obamas only carrot is to stab Israel in the back.

• 8. Some Assembly Required  |  June 4th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

  Kahn, he’ll ’slow new weapon development’ not STOP it. He’ll ’stop pumping billions into iraq’ NOT pull out of the middle east. He’ll ‘discontinue the starwars program’. NOT slash the defense budget. He will cut it back, but then thats all on what you consider to be defense/national security related. For example, re-allocating that funding for crumbling infrastructure, Alternative energy, foreclosure relief could be considered national security issues and critical to the defense of the US. All this from Rush Limbaugh’s site… the master fear mongerer himself. I wonder, did you listen to him before or after Rush told you what he said? I’m guessing after.

  The smartest thing the US can do right now is not develop new weapons, but alternative renewable energies. It’s really that simple, the rest will come after that.

• 9. Kahn  |  June 4th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

  Correction: Issue an ultimatum to Iran, not Iraq…

  “Starwars”???? How ’80’s. Are you referring to the systems that are actually being deployed in this century? I won’t bother describing them to you. I’m sure you don’t care.

  19% of the budget goes to defense. 70% goes to entitlements including Social Security, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, blah, blah, blah. But cutting defense during a global war makes sense to liberals I guess.

  Say it louder. Scream it from the rooftops. OK?

  But just because I used Rush’s site to link to an acknowledged Obama recording changes nothing. It does demonstrate how we have to fight to find out what Obamas actual positions are. Are you claiming it’s fake? Are you? If not. Then STFU and apologize. Really.

• 10. js  |  June 4th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

  isnt it funny how barak hussein will do just about everything people want done while he is runninng for office….but missed voting on real issues 42 percent of the time while nobody was looking?…obama is a wannabe rockstar…and a lying fool

• 11. js  |  June 4th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

  “From where we stand right now, Iran are pretty much laughing at us. Why? Because they know full well any conventional war we threaten against them will not happen because it will economically destroy the US”

  and thats the view from a man whose typical position is thought to be almost impossible…bent over completely with his head stuck up his…welll……you get the idea….its a wonder how these jerk liberals come up with such brilliant strategy analysis, eh?

• 12. Some Assembly Required  |  June 4th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

  Starwars, referring to weaponising space. I believe that is the project name.

  Kahn, your wrong about linking to Rush’s site not changing anything. It’s not the content of Obama’s video, its the spin and misrepresentation of it that I hold issue with. You make it seem as if the sky will fall when Obama becomes president. As if what we are doing right now has made us safer and stabalised the middle east. Hate to break it to you my friend, but the reality of the state of the world we live in today disagrees with you and this current administration.

  js, Those who can’t do it themselves will always tell you it cannot be done.

• 13. Mark Noonan  |  June 4th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

  SAR,

  Uh, no - it is the Strategic Defense Initiative - it was called “star wars” by Reagan’s critics in the 1980’s as they went about trying to kill of the final straw that broke the USSR’s back…’cause they wanted us to use strong diplomacy to work out a livable arrangement with the Soviets…

  Sound familiar?

• 14. Mark Noonan  |  June 4th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

  Kahn,

  It would be in Israel’s interest to try conclusions with Iran before an Obama Administration came in to give the store away in the middle east…

• 15. Some Assembly Required  |  June 4th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

  Mark, the Strategic Defense Initiative or as I inappropriately called it ’star wars’ was the final straw that broke the USSR’s back… Your kidding right? I mean the Beatles had about as much to do with the USSR collapsing as the SDI did. Sheesh.

  A livable arrangement with the soviets may not have been such a bad thing considering the complete mess we are in right now. But everything in hindsight hey.

  Regardless, Obama is against SDI or ’star wars’ and does not want to fund it. Makes sense to me, why have them up there when we have them on submarines… Unless of course there are aliens we need to protect ourselves from.

• 16. Kahn  |  June 4th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  SAR, that is a link to a video posted by Obamas people. When the MSM puts his real views on line, I’ll linkt to them. This is not some handheld camera shot. It’s Obama speaking clearly and directly into the camera. Watch the thing and listen to him. Ignore Rush. What spin could there be except yourdenying reality?

  You did know he’s and isolationist, naive, leftist… didn’t you?

  The fact that Rush liked to this video is absolutely irrelevent. It was Obama in his own words recording a video explaining his actual positions to friends.

  If you claim it is fake. BS. Questioning where I linked is cowardly. This is your guy. You’re all for him without even knowing who the hell he is. So? This is who he is.

• 17. js  |  June 4th, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  the only way you will find peace in israel is if islam denounces the koran

• 18. Kahn  |  June 4th, 2008 at 11:29 pm

  For the sake or argument then. Here is the ORIGINAL link.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE

  And the ORIGINAL poster??????

  BarackObamadotcom

  The Obama campaign itself posted this! Jeeeezzzz. Republicans actually pay attention to what Obama actually says and Democrats do not! How ludicrous? How can we debate you when you are proud and defensive of your ignorance? Arrogance and ignorance are a dangerous mix my dear Democrats. Count on us to point that out in the coming months.

  “Star Wars”, a press anti-Reagan propaganda phrase from the early ’80’s is so NOT what is going on. But whatever. Be proud of your ignorance of military affairs.

• 19. JustAnotherTaxpayer  |  June 4th, 2008 at 11:35 pm

  Mr. Noonan,

  Breaking the back of the USR is not the same thing as breaking the back of the Russians. Europeans look to Russia for oil, Iran looks to them for nukes, and the Europeans look to America to hear Warren Buffet say they’re pretty slim pickens for an investor like him in this country right now. And those religous liberals who consider themselves the heirs of Reagans legacy will do exactly what to change this state of affairs.
  Reagan like Bush, will not be judged kindly by those of his countrymen left to clean up the mess he left behind.
  The morning in America is over. The morning for Russia, China, and India has just begun.

• 20. Kahn  |  June 5th, 2008 at 12:19 am

  JAT, what was the mess left behind by Reagan? A recovered economy after Carter? A USSR in its last death throws? A liberated Eastern Europe?

  Yah, that all sucks.

• 21. Kahn  |  June 5th, 2008 at 12:21 am

  Oh and JAT. But of course you knew that. Why talk about NOW whgen we can talk about the ’80’s? Why examine Obamas own naive view of the world when we can rewrite history?

  Coward.

• 22. Dennis  |  June 5th, 2008 at 1:52 am

  Khan: “Starwars”???? How ’80’s. Are you referring to the systems that are actually being deployed in this century? I won’t bother describing them to you…”

  Okay, here’s a March, 2008 appraisal of that very program from Lt. General Robert G. Gard, Jr., Senior Military Fellow at the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation, and John Isaacs, Executive Director, Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation:

  “It is evident that the ground-based mid-course system does not meet the conditions for deployment specified in the National Missile Defense Act of 1999. It has not demonstrated that it is effective in accomplishing its mission or that it is capable of defending the territory of the United States. Phillip Coyle, Director of Operational Test and Evaluation during the Clinton administration, has called ground-based mid-course “a scarecrow, not a defense,” and Richard Garwin has said the system is “totally useless.”

  “According to the Congressional Research Service, more than $120 billion has been invested in missile defense since President Reagan’s speech 25 years ago, much of it on the system to protect the United States. Given the fact that delivery of a nuclear weapon against the United States is far more likely by means other than an ICBM, which leaves a return address, the opportunity costs are very high in military terms alone, not to mention other higher priority national security and domestic programs. The further deployment of elements of the ground-based mid-course system should be suspended until research and development can demonstrate that the problem of discrimination can be solved successfully.”

  http://www.armscontrolcenter.org/policy/missiledefense/articles/star_wars_turns_25/

• 23. Some Assembly Required  |  June 5th, 2008 at 8:55 am

  Kahn, when did I say or impy the video was fake? I specifically said it was not the video I hold issue with, but how you misrepresent what he says in it and spin it as if he were the arvenger of death. I see no problem with what he suggests. The country needs a sharp left turn at this point in history. I only hope we don’t stay left but end somewhere in the middle once the dust settles in the next decade or so.

• 24. Kahn  |  June 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

  If it wasn’t fake - what possible legitimate problem could you have with it? It was posted by the Obama campaign itself. Don’t hide from yoyr positions.

  Here is a story about Democrat Utopia called Hartford. You must be so proud.

  http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20080606/D9148S3G0.html

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