June 5th, 2008 at 08:25pm Matt Margolis
This video, compiled by the RNC says it all … and it’s all said by Democrats about Obama..
Videos like this need to be shown throughout this campaign.
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54 Comments
1. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 12:10 am
That’s gotta sting.
2. Danish Artist | June 6th, 2008 at 6:36 am
How many liberals have changed their rhetoric concerning Obama’s inexperience?
Unfortunately, liberal politicians think American is stupid and have very short term memories. In some cases, it’s true. We have seen it here.
With the exception of a few pieces of legislation that he managed to get his name attached to, what has he done?
Why did he vote 130 times “present” on legislation in Illinois???
What is his “threat assessment” of Iran today on this hour???
Obama - “leadership” we cannot afford.
3. Obama 08 | June 6th, 2008 at 7:03 am
You know the Democrats have decided not to take money from lobbyists from now on right? Not that you would report it.
4. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Obama,
That’s probably a good move coming off the heels of Obamas buddy Rezko going to prison. Not that you would mention that.
5. Obama 08 | June 6th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Yes, he took money from one Rezko who is now going to jail for corruption. He did not use this money. Now the party is moving to not take money from special interests or lobbyists.
Your turn.
6. Obama 08 | June 6th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Guess you’re not interested
7. SEW | June 6th, 2008 at 10:16 am
“Guess you’re not interested”
Rotate your tinfoil and you can spin your nonsense by yourself.
8. David B. Schmidt | June 6th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Obama stated that he would not. Very magnanimous once you filled your coffers (maxed out) from them already. Now the DNC and the DNCC are another matter–they will gladly accept whatever because they are coming up short.
9. jayhay | June 6th, 2008 at 11:00 am
20 years from now when your children ask you about Obama, if you were there when history was being made, you can tell them, “Yes, I was there, standing on the shore, thumbing my nose as the great ship of history set sail…”
10. jayhay | June 6th, 2008 at 11:33 am
And that video is like the Spurs discussing the Lakers weaknesses… kinda weak.
You guys really don’t get what you’re facing going to November. Obama has taken down the DLC leadership of the party by simply playing smarter. He’ll do the same with the RNC. You’re going to watch McCain’s leaden, 20th Century political spears fly while Obama just out-plays you. I mean, look at McCain’s website, the four main tabs are “Decision Center”, “General Election”, “Obama & Iraq”, and, wait for it, “Golf Gear”. Man, that’s just sad.
This season will be the young entrepreneur taking on the aging CEO. I know where my vote will be.
11. Kahn | June 6th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Obama 08 - so, that includes unions…. right?
And environmental organizations like Green Peace and the Sierra Club….. right?
And the Soros funded groups will be shunned also…. right?
And of course they’ll offer to pay for all the free positive coverage they get from Hollywood and the Press which are totally in the tank for them…..right?
12. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Entrepreneur????
Obama is an entrepreneur? How?
Please enlighten us.
The DNC wont take any lobbyist money, but they will take money from the “Friends of New Orleans”, which WAS money earmarked for Katrina victims.
Guess they don’t care that much about them anymore.
13. Pain | June 6th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Having more money than the RNC helps.
Anything they can do, the DNC can do better.
Oooh! McCain’s campaign people lobbying for those who trade with IRAN????? The ARCH ENEMY???? How cool is that????
14. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
So now having money donated to you is entrepreneurship!!!
That’s could only be the liberal definition of entrepreneurism. Priceless!
Pain,
Why is the DNC taking money away from Katrina victims to pay for their party?
15. Pain | June 6th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
14. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
We have no idea really because they are a charity and can maybe?
Why are your guys taking their trailers?
Why is Charlie Black still a part of the McCain campaign when the GOP candidate said he was going to get all the lobbyists out of his camp?
We know this is a hefty collection of questions for someone who gets their news from Rush!
16. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
The following is just too rich for words:
In Denver, a charity created for Hurricane Katrina relief called “Friends of New Orleans” is paying for a party and concert at the DNC Convention. If I donated to this organization, I think I’d be a little upset if my charitable donations were going to fund a party for Democrat party big-wigs.
17. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
When someone is pushing the agenda of a particular concern, they’re called lobbyists. When they are emplyed by campaigns, they are called staffers. See how that works.
Good question though Pain, that’s how you learn.
18. Robin Naismith Green | June 6th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
14. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
I guess you can start slinging insults now neocon because the truth of the matter is that you are stupid for believing in the tripe Limbaugh feeds you guys every day.
From the New Orleans Times Picayune dated 6 June 2008 . . .
“Friends of New Orleans already planned fundraising events at both the Democratic convention, and the GOP convention being held a week later in St. Paul, Minn., Friends of New Orleans Executive Director Emily Byram said. She said the group is delighted to participate in the giant delegate party to put the national spotlight on recovery needs.
Byram said initial reports indicating that her group was providing financing for the delegate party are not true. The event for the 56 state and territorial delegations will be picked by convention organizers, according to a statement from the Democratic National Committee and Host Committee.
During both party conventions, Friends of New Orleans, with the help of corporate sponsors, including the National Restaurant Association, will hold New Orleans-themed fund-raisers for its promotional activities and for groups providing recovery support to the city, Byram said. She declined to provide the names of other sponsors until they agree to release their names.”
That’s no funding from Friends of New Orleans and the group will be hosting at BOTH conventions. You make this too easy. I feel so good about this I think I’ll donate 100 bucks to Friends of New Orleans!
19. Pain | June 6th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
17. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
So his connections to Shinging Path and Mobutu Sese Seko and the Myanmar junta do not bother you at all and such connections to organizations when they happen to be by Obama staffers will not bother you either?
20. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Good for you. They can then be called entrepreneurs.
BTW, I thought your sensitivity precluded you from frequenting this site. What happened?
21. Tractatus | June 6th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
When someone is pushing the agenda of a particular concern, they’re called lobbyists. When they are emplyed by campaigns, they are called staffers.
And when a lobbyist is part of a campaign that pledged to be lobbyist-free, that is called hypocrisy.
22. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Re: Friends of New Orleans
“The host committee originally said in a news release that Friends of New Orleans would be hosting the party. That is incorrect,…”
I guess they created their own bad press.
23. Robin Naismith Green | June 6th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
The Denver Post where Rush got his lie has retracted their original story and corrected it.
That link above is where you go when you click the link in the Rush Limbaugh.com transcript.
neocon whatever you do for a living I hope it doesn’t need any level of clarity or accuracy. But if it takes gullibility that might make you CEO.
24. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Tractatus,
When did McCain pledge to not hire former lobbyists?
25. Pain | June 6th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
22. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
No neocon you are just an idiot it happens all the time to you Right Wingers. We forgive you.
[Ha! the reCaptcha was "Bilbo University" maybe that's where neocon got his degree in intolerance! Okay, We have enjoyed this enough. ]
26. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
No honey,
I got that onformation from the following link. Rush isn’t even mentioned, but you have now mentioned him twice. Do you want him? Is Robin hot for some Rush?
http://origin.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_9482712
27. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Why are all of you so angry? Name calling, insults.
Is this anyway for open minded, tolerant liberals to act. I do find it amusing how quick you all are to personally attack someone. It’s a clear indicator of weak arguments.
28. Robin Naismith Green | June 6th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
24. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Do you really want to go here?
29. Danish Artist | June 6th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Entrepreneur????
Obama is an entrepreneur? How?
Snake Oil Salesman!
Fertilizer Spreader!
Manure Hauler!
Take your pick!
Could not resist!
30. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
So let’s summarize:
Robin is hot for Rush.
Tractatus doesn’t understand the meaning of the word hypocrisy.
And Pain thinks that being an entrepreneur is when you have money donated to you.
Anthing else?
31. Robin Naismith Green | June 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
27. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
No in this case facts were used to prove your declaration incorrect and THEN a liberal insulted you. When you guys do it you have no refutation or facts to argue with so you BEGIN with insults. That’s a big difference.
Hey I like a husky guy but his politics and the need for Viagra in LARGE DOSES is a big of a turn off and since I have my own money why would I need a busted fifty seven year old when I could get two 28s that have all their parts working?
32. Danish Artist | June 6th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Pain,
“Oooh! McCain’s campaign people lobbying for those who trade with IRAN????? The ARCH ENEMY???? How cool is that????”
But according to the Obamassiah, Iran is not the enemy, not a threat, or maybe a tiny one or what iteration is he on now?
Robin, you do understand how weblinks work?
Obviously not.
Wow, these so called “professional journalists” from the daily pitchfork aren’t too bright.
33. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
What’s your point Robin? McCain never said that he would not hire any former lobbyists. And incidentally, this is one of the first times ever that liberals have been concerned with lobbyists. If you had any hostorical refernce, you would understand that statement.
I loved the following line:
“And that’s why I said at the beginning I wouldn’t take PAC money and I wouldn’t take money from federal lobbyists.” - Obama
It helps when your main money man is in prison.
34. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Robin,
So your a slut too? wow.
35. Pain | June 6th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
32. Danish Artist | June 6th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
But according to you lot Iran is the arch enemy. Which is it? Are they a threat for bashing Liberals and not when you need to cover up slimy campaign staffers? Will Mccain supporters flip flop this much in step with their candidates policies? It really is a long way to the conventions is it not?
36. Robin Naismith Green | June 6th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
33. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Oh so since some other person historically did something then now it’s okay that Mccain’s staff is rotten with lobbyists? You see this is the kind of hypocrisy that pisses off moderates and Independent voters. When you are busted or some connected guy gets indicted you can’t just own up to it you have to throw him under the bus and point fingers that some Democrat did the same thing at some point in history.
C’mon neocon McCain can’t go to the bathroom without passing someone from Akin Gump or McGuire Woods [they are a big lobbying firms if you didn't know that]. His campaign can’t get near the DNC bucks or what Obama is raising without lobbyists and MAKING PROMISES TO LOBBYISTS this is the point.
Two words on the Rezko thing: Bob Kjellander.
Slut? So sleeping with two guys at the same time makes you a slut? Who knew?
37. Some Assembly Required | June 6th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
27. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Please reference the thread ‘VP Speculations’
34. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
I like sluts… it’s the ‘cum dumpsters’ that you really have to watch out for. Anyone that can suck a cork out of a wine bottle really frightens me. Though you may like it, maybe you can return all that penis enlargement gear you have kicking around.
38. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Robin,
I don’t care if McCain has former lobbyists on his campaign.
All you have to do is look at McCain’s Senate record to know that he is financially conservative.
Too bad we can’t say the same for Obama.
And sleeping with two guys makes you a whore. Unless they’re your uncles, which I am assuming is the case with you. Just FYI.
39. Robin Naismith Green | June 6th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
This thread has really gone to Hell! LOL.
40. Danish Artist | June 6th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Obama vs this Democrat might have a chance:
Let’s hear it for Jefferson family values
Friday, June 06, 2008
James Gill
Congressman “Dollar” Bill Jefferson, D-New Orleans, must be one proud patriarch.
To judge from the federal indictments that continue to rain down, his kinfolk were filled with a desire to be just like him.
They could not, of course, hope to emulate the scale of his alleged scams and shakedowns, which, as befits a politician in such exalted office, played out across two continents.
But there were no flies on the local team either, according to the feds. While Dollar Bill awaits trial in Northern Virginia, the New Orleans feds have indicted Dollar Bill’s sister, New Orleans Assessor Betty Jefferson, his brother Mose and his niece Angela Coleman.
Year in, year out, those three pocketed huge amounts of public money supposedly appropriated to help the needy, according to the indictment. No doubt they now yearn for the days when Dollar Bill’s old sidekick Eddie Jordan was U.S. attorney.
When President Bush appointed Jim Letten to replace Jordan, the family might have been wise to draw in its horns or at least to make some show of charitable endeavor. But its organizations just kept raking in the dough without so much as putting out a sign or publishing a phone number. The city’s myriad dispossessed can have had no idea all that money was sloshing around for their supposed benefit.
Stealing public money, it turns out, is pretty straightforward, provided you have friends and relatives in Baton Rouge and Washington. And you certainly have them if your patriarch is Dollar Bill, who was a state senator until his election to Congress 18 years ago.
Jefferson family organizations were major beneficiaries of slush funds in the gift of individual state legislators, who included Dollar Bill’s protégée Renee Gill Pratt and his daughter Jalila. Between them they steered some $5 million to organizations controlled by Aunt Betty, Uncle Mose and Cousin Angela.
The purported New Orleans charities also proved quite adept at extracting money from the feds, and, although nobody knows what if any influences were brought to bear, it is a fair bet that Dollar Bill did not object.
If securing grants was more or less a breeze, stealing the money required no great ingenuity either. According to the feds, the family members would establish bank accounts with themselves as the only authorized signatories and divert the proceeds to their own accounts while submitting fraudulent reports to the state and federal governments.
Letten said at a press conference Wednesday that some of the government money may have actually been used for legitimate charitable purposes, but it cannot have amounted to much, given the astonishing greed that seems to be a Jefferson family curse.
Betty Jefferson and her daughter Coleman, for instance, were given control of $178,000 from the state in 2001/2002 “to train, counsel and focus on the broad problems of black males between the ages of 9 through 21.” By the time they, and brother Mose, had done skimming, only $1,971 remained in the kitty. The problems of black males no doubt remained as broad as ever.
By 2003/2004 it was the plight of pregnant teenagers that touched the hearts of the Jefferson family, which received $99,350 from the federal Department of Education to alleviate their plight. The Jeffersons stole more than $60,000 of that grant, according to the indictment.
There are so many examples of embezzlement under cover of good works that the indictment runs to 46 pages. The Jefferson family established the supposed non-profits that are the focus of the indictment in the early 1990s, and must have developed a sense of invulnerability, although this does not appear to have been a sophisticated conspiracy. The thefts were so brazen that they were bound to come to light once the feds moved in.
Betty Jefferson, Mose Jefferson and Angela Coleman made out checks to several unnamed relatives as conduits for the embezzled money, according to the indictment, although it is not clear whether those relatives were knowingly complicit. Meanwhile, Dollar Bill, according to the Virginia feds, stashed his illicit loot in shell corporations controlled by his wife and daughters, who have, however, not been indicted.
Still, as Dollar Bill surveys his extended family, he must be impressed with the spirit of emulation that has gripped at least some of them. The only member of his family currently in prison is his brother-in-law, the crooked state judge Alan Green, but you have to wonder how long that will last.
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And to think, the “leader” of the “most ethical congress” wanted to appoint Dollar Bill Jefferson head of a committee!!!!
When are the libs going to stop defending their corrupt politicians and force them to resign???
Oh wait, then Obama would be out of the running!
41. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Here’s a fun read:
Obama’s Leadership PAC (The Hope Fund) accepted donations from 56 PACs in 2004-2006, according to the Globe. In 2006, Harper’s itemized corporate and legal (law firms) interests, PACs and lobbyists who had financed Obama’s campaigns and Leadership PAC.
http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2008/03/31/obamas-disingenuous-pac-statement.htm
42. Danish Artist | June 6th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Robin:
“This thread has really gone to Hell! LOL.”
Well, Hell’s minions from the daily newspaper keeps coming here and deflecting the topic all over the place. Who would have thought it?
“mcCain has former lobbyists working at his campaign.”
The operative word is “former”. You know as in FORMER KKK Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd.
FORMER Impeached President Bill Clinton
FORMER disbarred attorney Bill Clinton
FORMER Press Secretary Scott McClellan.
All these FORMER individuals who liberals have forgiven and sing their truthful praises.
Former lobbyists working for liberals - forgiven? YES!
Former lobbyists working for non-liberal types? - forgiven? NO!!!!!
Liberals are such delusional hypocrites.
43. Robin Naismith Green | June 6th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
40. Danish Artist | June 6th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
They sure look like crooks to me. Let the Justice system sort them out and if they’re guilty send them to prison. How hard is this?
44. Pain | June 6th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
42. Danish Artist | June 6th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
You are supposed to be the party of “values” though. Greed is still one of your sins is it not? Violence is wrong too so supporting the violent to get money is immoral right?
Maybe the republican slogan should be “It’s the hypocrisy stupid!”
45. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
SAR,
You should know me by now. I was mocking all of you in my #27 post. Didn’t it sound familiar?
46. Pain | June 6th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
45. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
We actually did laugh at that it was funny. No one’s feelings have been hurt so far. Well except for Tony Rezko’s!
47. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Pain,
any chance you can actually address Danish’s post? I mean it does seem a little hypocritical on the Dems part, right?
48. Pain | June 6th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
47. neocon | June 6th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
We agree with Robin they should be tried and if found guilty sentenced. As for Congressman Jefferson We have called for his resignation from the first sign of impropriety. There is no room for corruption the real kind as in this case in any political party.
49. Some Assembly Required | June 6th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Yeah, I just couldn’t resist.
OT: This is exactly why we need to change the way we are currently conducting business. Unless you plan on invading Russia and Saudi Arabia along with the usual suspects. We need a major push for alternative energies and we need it now. The Alberta tar sands are fading fast and new oil projects in the grand banks are not expected to get online until 2010 at the earliest. Even if they come online with ANWAR, were only prolonging the inevitable.
50. Tractatus | June 6th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Suddenly personal attacks are indicative of a dearth of factual arguments to make. Geez, neocon, does Noonan know you’re stealing his projection strategy like that? Did you at least say “excuse me” first?
51. Danish Artist | June 6th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Robin and Pain:
Never saw those callings for Jefferson’s resignation, just the usual lib talking points.
Sorry, you are going to have to do better than that you “professional journalists”.
I guess the crime did not happen in hell yet.
52. phnx | June 6th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
SAR:
Reports of our economic demise have been greatly exagerated.
http://www.oilcrisis.com/shale/
2 TRILLION barrels oil right here in the the good ole US of A.
53. Rich | June 6th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Pain- What is this”we” shit? Do you have a turd in your pocket?
54. Some Assembly Required | June 7th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Phnx, This is no secret. It was first looked at for commercial use in the 1920’s. It is not economically viable, environmentally friendly in any way shape or form and only a select few companies have the supposed technology to do so. Not to mention Shell has been looking into it for sometime now and still have not found a truly viable way to go about it and not waste enough shale to cover Manhattan on a daily basis.
And then this…
http://emd.aapg.org/technical_areas/oil_shale.cfm
To make this even remotely viable for commercial use, the price of Gas would have to reach $5 - 6 a gallon. Even if that happens, any shale that is not located close to the surface is still not 100% guaranteed to produce results especially in the form of 2 Trillion Barrels.
Heres a hint, a quick google search will provide credible websites. Anything that looks like it was created with ‘expage’ is more then likely a scam.