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• 1. Obama 08  |  June 7th, 2008 at 1:09 am

  And tragically the party who would have fought for limited Government now wiretaps the people. Things change.

• 2. Jeremiah  |  June 7th, 2008 at 1:37 am

  And tragically the party who would have fought for limited Government now wiretaps the people.

  Good or bad? Good!

  Things change.

  Obama’s change…Good or bad? Bad.

  Obama’s upbringing shows just how important it is to be brought up the way you’re supposed to be…cuz Obama sure didn’t.

  Too many children these days are put on the “No want” list and are either murdered or thrown in a dumpster.

  The world should shake their fist at Harry Blackmun, but they just won’t, because the further society is allowed to go deeper and deeper into debt to God…the more out of touch society becomes and division ensues.

  God is America’s only unity and only ‘Hope’….not the empty rhetoric we get from Obama.

• 3. Danish Artist  |  June 7th, 2008 at 7:18 am

  And tragically the party who would have fought for limited Government now wiretaps the people. Things change.

  FISA and warrantless wiretapping (as approved by FISA) of American citizens came from the Carter administration and Democrats in Congress. Sorry to burst your bubble, liberal fed talking points and outright liberal lies.

  Yeah, let’s stick with the party that consistently keeps expanding the power of government, increasing spending and hindering and gutting the military for their “progressive” triple redundant social programs.

• 4. js  |  June 7th, 2008 at 8:36 am

  why do you blow smoke up our behinds…we are at war….yes, there are people in the world….if we let our guard down….that would come here…on our own soil….and slaughter as many innocent, unarmed people as they could…and they would do it in the name of thier false god to boot….and you think our defense is no of sufficient value to grant the invasion of privacy to track and stop them?

  the world is full of halfwits….and opposing wiretapping is a halfwitted idea….but thats really out there on the fringes of this topic…a distraction from what should be in debate here…about the morals…social rights and wrongs…that include the death penalty…injustice in our courts….our courts forcing unnatural behavior on society…like abortion and homosexual issues…..and politicized organizations like the APA, whose endorsement of homosexuality is not about science…but about pacification….in reality….these are the social ills we face today…and our generation is failing in our responsibility to set things right….because we have allowed ourselves to become sheeple, fat rich cats driving SUV’s who dont care about anything but self…..

  Just as slavery was founded on the selfishness of mans nature, so is homosexuality and abortion. Its that simple.

• 5. Pain  |  June 7th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

  3. Danish Artist | June 7th, 2008 at 7:18 am

  The FISA law requires that you get the warrant. What the Bush administration did was spy on cell phone calls without ever petitioning for the warrant. Being afraid that another terror attack is imminent does not fly as a valid reason to violate this law as a judge has already ruled.

  To the main topic
  It all comes down to this: Do you want to have good sex you can pay for anytime, good medical care and peace in your homeland or no sex except “bad sex” [is there really such a thing debate that too if you like, Our point is watching good sex would likely be better than sex with someone you are not into. Hmmm this could be a whole other post!] with the ugly woman who would marry you, no medical care except the expensive kind you cannot afford and wars for energy resources that profit the few who pull the strings of the Theocrats that control you.

  Those are your options America–vote Obama in ‘08, vote early and vote often!

• 6. Tractatus  |  June 7th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

  OK, we get it, you don’t like sex or the concept of government helping people.

  js comparing abortion and homosexuality to slavery–now that’s good spoof!

• 7. js  |  June 7th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

  Sorry Tract, you are so shallow, I mistook you for a mudpuddle…

• 8. Jeremiah  |  June 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

  comparing abortion and homosexuality to slavery–now that’s good spoof!–Tractatus.

  Nope. They are both the same…they are both sin, horrible sins. And they both deserve the Death Penalty…God demanded the lives of those who murdered their babies and those who chose to live a life of as comparable to a maggot-homosexuals. They both deserve death, and that’s why God commanded it to show how serious He is about it and is for all the world to see that He reigns Supreme above all other creatures. He could wipe out the entire North American continent tomorrow if He wanted.

• 9. Tractatus  |  June 7th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

  How ’bout it, Noonan? Do you endorse the death penalty for homosexuality like your “brother in Christ” Jeremiah, whom you are certain will be in heaven with you? Do you think gays are like maggots?

  Can’t you just feel that Christian love?

• 10. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 7th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

  8. Jeremiah | June 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

  What a contemptable blind and ignorant way to live your precious life wasting it pouring out hate like drums of spoiled wine.

  Instead of using free will to love your brothers you use it as an excuse to wish them killed. there is no Paradise for those who hate only a mirror to show you all the days you spent in self indulgent hatred for Creation.

  Maggots young man at least serve the purpose to clean up carrion which is more purpose than I can say that you have. You would prefer to poison the minds of the living with hate and notions of religious superiority. I find this equally appalling because the Creator made all things and all Men, the gay and the straight alike and despite your notions that your way is the only way I would enjoy seeing your face when you are told that because of your arrogance you are consigned to stand outside Paradise and look in for all Eternity because I can say Hell does not want you here.

  May Fate have mercy on your Soul Jeremiah because Hell certainly shant.

• 11. js  |  June 7th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

  and you ce? with the wit of a demon, do bark at the light that you flee from…you really would enjoy seeing his face when he stands before the Lord…only because you know you will not be there…because you are defending the sodomites….and God already condemned them…fate has much more in store for Jeremiah than your feeble imagination can grasp….and its not coming from your demonic master…..so repent….its not too late….

• 12. Danish Artist  |  June 7th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

  Sorry Pain,

  you obviously have not read FISA. FISA allows for 48 hours of unwarranted wire taps. IF they want the tap in place for longer then the warrant is required.

  AND! This was in the version passed by Jimmy and the Democrats. This is in the real world and not your fictional hell.

  Poor liberals. Can’t accept that their party skirts or ignores the Constitution.

  Wow, Cav, what an example of “Professional Journalism”: “Maggots young man at least serve the purpose to clean up carrion which is more purpose than I can say that you have.”

• 13. Pain  |  June 7th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

  12. Danish Artist | June 7th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

  And after that 48 hour period ends any and all agencies MUST gain a warrant and this is what the Bush DOJ did illegally they continued to listen and did not gain the proper permision from a secret court.
  And mocking Islam does not make your life or the things that make you sad go away. If there is to be illness, or if there is infidelity or if there is anger your mocking of others does not make your sorrow disappear. We do not wish to see you suffer Danish Artist, but so many of you are so arrogant that We may just turn Our Collective back and allow Fate to take its course. Would you take back all those things you said in anger to the ones you love if today was your last day on Terra?
  We know your heart even better than you for We own the sky!

• 14. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 7th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

  11. js | June 7th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

  To the question posed yes I would like to see Jeremiah’s face when he is told that he was a loveless charlatan and decieved by his own pride in race, religion and traditions and he had turned his back on the true message. That and the “sins of his fathers” should be enough to send him and the next five generations after him to Hell. With rehab he could become a free citizen though in a few years.

  I honestly doubt if you know the will of the Creator any more than I do js. I think telling other people what the Creator does and does not like by picking things out of the Bible that you can live with while ignoring the rest as irrelvant to your times, your pursuit of material gain or anything else is just simply the acts of a lying fraud. Faith is for the strong; religion is an eminence front.

  12. Danish Artist | June 7th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

  And you can quote me at your leisure DA. There is a quote that Christpher Lloyd’s character tells Buckeroo Banzai in the move of the same name about what an alien felt about Terra something about it not being his planet. I forget.

• 15. Danish Artist  |  June 7th, 2008 at 6:16 pm

  “And after that 48 hour period ends any and all agencies MUST gain a warrant and this is what the Bush DOJ did illegally they continued to listen and did not gain the proper permision from a secret court.”

  uh, Pain, that is what I said.

  “And mocking Islam does not make your life or the things that make you sad go away. If there is to be illness, or if there is infidelity or if there is anger your mocking of others does not make your sorrow disappear. We do not wish to see you suffer Danish Artist, but so many of you are so arrogant that We may just turn Our Collective back and allow Fate to take its course. Would you take back all those things you said in anger to the ones you love if today was your last day on Terra?
  We know your heart even better than you for We own the sky!”

  Where did I mock Islam? My name came from the facts that I am an artist and of Danish descent. I can’t help it if the radicals can’t stand satire.

  Collective?

  Suffer?

  Terra?

  Own the sky?

  Wow, that’s some power ’shrooms you got there. Take your fictional hellish religion and go feed yourself to the Leviathan.

• 16. Danish Artist  |  June 7th, 2008 at 6:24 pm

  “12. Danish Artist | June 7th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
  And you can quote me at your leisure DA. There is a quote that Christpher Lloyd’s character tells Buckeroo Banzai in the move of the same name about what an alien felt about Terra something about it not being his planet. I forget.”

  I see you have some of the same ’shrooms that Pain does.

  Relevance?

• 17. Dennis  |  June 7th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

  Chesterton: “We have mixed up two different things, two opposite things. Progress should mean that we are always changing the world to suit the vision. Progress does mean (just now) that we are always changing the vision…”

  Damned if that doesn’t describe the Bush admin’s conduct and defense of the Iraq war.

  “[Progress] should mean that we are slow but sure in bringing justice and mercy among men: it does mean that we are very swift in doubting the desirability of justice and mercy…”

  And damned if the Bush admin aren’t pushing justice and mercy ever farther away with extraordinary renditions, suspension of habeas corpus, secret tribunals etc and causing the public to doubt the very desirability of mercy and justice by stoking fears of terror.

  “Progress should mean that we are always walking towards the New Jerusalem. It does mean that the New Jerusalem is always walking away from us.”

  Unfortunately our leaders are not elevating the reality to suit our best American ideals. They are lowering American ideals: it is easier.

  I truly appreciate some of your quotes, Mark. It is just a real head-scratcher that you can’t see their most obvious applications to our current reality.

  I don’t worry much about the sexual license of others - that has little to do with my life or well-being. But when my government dehumanizes its enemies, devalues our civil liberties and chooses preemptively to start wars that cause the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians it diminishes us all.

  Curiously the ones it diminishes most are the ones who care the least, who actually defend these things. It makes them very small people indeed.

• 18. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 7th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

  16. Danish Artist | June 7th, 2008 at 6:24 pm

  The Important part is around 4:53 to the end. Enjoy!

• 19. Jeremiah  |  June 7th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

  Dear Pain & Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J. from Satan’s Leading Newspaper.

  I hate to burst your bubble, but it certainly appears that the neither of you understand the simple concept of ‘Faith’.

  What your problem is, is that Satan has you believing or having “faith” in yourself … he takes his finger and he motions you to listen, and once you start, then it’s easy pickin’s for the ol’ sly Satan himself…he says, “look boys, you’ve got all the power you need, the world’s your’s, I’m letting you have it…thinking he “owns” it, boy what a surprise Satan is in for. But he just keeps working in your mind, telling you…you play nice, and there’s nothing you can do that is “wrong” absolutely “nothing” and he says…”Ooooooh, look at that pretty woman walking down the street, look at her behind and chest” causing you to sin in your mind, fornicate and so forth. Or some guy comes along and wants to “get things started” lulling you into the maggot lifestyle.

  And the whole time…..Satan has you in such a trance, having your mind captivated….What it is, is Satan’s got you thinking that there’s “nothing” wrong in doing those things that will hurt you most critically in the long run.

  That’s the mistake of all too many people these days.

  When an example presents itself in society in any of the many forms of temptation that Satan throws out….it permeates society and targets those who are weak in Body, Spirit, and mind.
  You see? Satan knows who he can persuade to bring them down even further than they already are…..just like whenever a buffalo calf gets seperated from the herd in Africa, the lions sieze their opportunity and attack with a veangance.

  And this is a call to all Christians……California voters have signed the proposed marriage amendment……but what’s critical now, is in the fact that TGLB is already raising money to overturn the Bill of it passes, they say the will overturn it with $15 million dollars…..so, you see, this is where we need to remain strong and get stronger by making our voices heard…..If we don’t, then just like the calf in Africa who got seperated from the herd, we will be seen as weak, and the diseased that is sodomites will be forced onto all of America….

  Don’t be weak, people, get up off your duffs and stand up for what is right, stand up for Faith in Christ.

  And to re-iterate on my response to pain and cav — Boys, faith in Christ is the only faith worth anything….you have no power in yourself, you are as the pups who have no eye-sight.

  It’s now or never, people….take advantage of your rights will you still have them and Obama hasn’t taken them.
  And remember, homosexuality is not what America was built on, it was built on marriage between man and woman, the only possible way to make a family.

  God bless!

• 20. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 12:12 am

  the one thing i noticed the most ce….you answered a question that only existed in your mind…i made a blunt, factual statement about you…there was no question…and that crotch rot you got from buggarizing pain must have infected your mind…because its pretty clear to me that you dont know God…His Holy Spirit moves people in the same direction…and you are not going that way, so stop lying….and even more so…… that you dont know squat about my relationship with Him….hence…the only thing you are actually qualified to speak of is your own ignorance…your little twist and spin really is not much more than a demonstration of your continued mental midgetry on the bible and what it says…

• 21. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 8th, 2008 at 6:43 am

  19. Jeremiah | June 7th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

  You really think any of that junk has anything to do with your Soul??? It would be an interesting study in comedy if you were the only one who combined religion into this sort of hate to be saved rhetoric but sadly I know there are hundreds of thousands that truly believe in this and live it every day.

  20. js | June 8th, 2008 at 12:12 am

  Ahhh js you just prefer to think that anyone who stands up for the rights of Men are somehow inferior or base. For a member at the bar of my skill to advocate for the rights of homosexuals must make me one and therefore Our Majordomo, Pain, musty be gay as well. Well truth be told Pain is quite female and quite with child [due in a fortnight] and in a committed lesbian marriage and I am quite happily married to a very nice woman and we have twins one boy and one girl.

  And you did ask a question and inferred a second one in your post. I know the public education system in America has gone downhill in the last fifty years because of the anger about desegregation but this inability to read with understanding is very sad indeed.

  But since the religious school of the protestant variety are really just centres of economic indoctrination now seeking to instill GOP “values” in children so that they will continue to contribute to the tax shelters called churches that are being used by the religious right to cultivate a base of voters well I do not expect any improvement in education on that front either. Only the Catholics seem to teach children what they need to know. A good Jesuit taught education is priceless in this day and age.

  I digress.

  I have watched waves of people like you who wave their “Gott ist mit uns!” banners and give no humane respect to anyone who is not like you for centuries. I have seen a revolution overturn an evil so great that you cannot imagine and transform Hell into a place to be feared into an Afterlife that gives many on the Known Worlds a second chance. Live your lives more by those words you cherish rather than trying to force those words down the throats of others while you do as you please and your Lives and Afterlives will be of better quality.

  Being a hateful homophobe does not make you a better Christian and it does not elevate you above even the lowliest of non believers it just makes you a homophobe who worships themselves more than the idea that all men are created equal. To you and those with your worldview you have created the greatest sin of all you cannot allow for the fact that you might be wrong in treating your fellow man poorly rather than letting him or her be accountable for what you think is “sin.”

  So go on with your desire to hate and watch good lives be destroyed by cancer and divorce and never ask why. Keep begging a deaf sky for treasures and nodding like Neanderthals when the harvest is either bountiful or short because giving someone other than yourself the power absolves you and your species of the responsibility you owe that planet.

  If you believed in these simple principles then this would be a different conversation a different America and a wholly different Terra:

  You are a man of material that came from the stars that the Almighty Creator made, every man what meant to be something special but the desire for other men to control him such that the “leaders” may keep wealth and power has ruined that path, the leader have organized into religions that punish men for seeking to have all the things and fruits of Terra the leaders have. This is wrong; all Men are created equal. Sex between consenting adults is not a sin no matter the gender of the two people engaged therein. Hypocrisy is a greater sin than all the rest save for the blasphemy that allows men to elevate themselves above the Creator of the Stars. Love thy neighbor as you Love thyself really means that not Love thy neighbor in the physical sense but hold that you and he are a part of the same terrestrial family.

  There is more but you know these things to be true already and your false and arrogant piety already has you angered that I know these things as a demon and can speak them truly and as a man they threaten your worldview.

  Come to Reason; look up to the sky and Love the sun!

  Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

• 22. Danish Artist  |  June 8th, 2008 at 7:54 am

  Cav,

  again relevance?

  It’s a movie! It’s hardly a basis of reality.

  But then look at the screed you post.

• 23. Marty13  |  June 8th, 2008 at 8:19 am

  As Bill Murray would say, “Cavalor, I want to party with you.”
  Do you really talk this way all the time? Or are these orations reserved only for sandwich board wearing, bell ringing zealots like Jeremiah?
  Regardless, keep up the good work. I find deciphering your posts akin to a difficult Times crossword.

• 24. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 8:25 am

  you can digress and chew shoe leather all you want cav, but when it comes down to basics, you are trying to defend sodomy, deviant sexual behavior, and put it neck and neck with natural human relations…..you cant win when you dont have any cards to play….which is the only card ya got…dogs love thier masters even if they are beaten, did you ever notice that…..just like sodomites think they actually love each other in a sexually deviant relationship….any animal can display love in the right circumstances….but humans are not supposed to behave like animals, are they….otherwise you would walk down wall street and step in piles of human dung….wake up…what you see in me is not anger…its passion…to do the right thing….to stand up and say NO!!!….this is NOT RIGHT…its NOT HEALTHY…and it does NOT belong shoulder to shoulder as equal to natural relationships between men and women….

  and your replay is….welll…you sure havent done much but sputter bull shiite and evade doing that very thing…justifying the purpose and/or need in society for recognizing that sodomy has any equal standing in natural or normal human relations, or society….

  so in effect…is that all ya got boy? you came to a gun fight with a butter knife…thinking you could even compete? thats the question…in your mind, you poorly equiped because you didnt bring anyfacts, just excuses, evasions, distraction….your lame….

• 25. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 8:37 am

  “seeking to instill GOP “values” in children”

  now i know just how stupid you really are cav….representing here that DNC “values” are pro-sodomy…all for teching children that its ok for bobby stick his thing into billys poop shoot, because its “not-DNC” so its got to be right….you must be from nambla, huh?

  you are a worthless sodomite…and as much defending pedophilia as anyone ive met defending homosexuals right to expose themselves and thier filthy practices to children…

• 26. FmrMarine  |  June 8th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

  pain… from ANTI Christian, porno gay agenda HELLS newspaper.

  >>>>What the Bush administration did was spy on cell phone calls without ever petitioning for the warrant. Being afraid that another terror attack is imminent does not fly as a valid reason to violate this law as a judge has already ruled.<<<<

  DUH….another LIE from the marxias left.
  The phone taps were done from calls ORIGINATING …to or FROM a F_O_R_E_I_G_N country. LIKE…syria, iran, sudan etc….GET IT?
  they arent tapping the phones at your gutter little news outlet. If they did ……say hi to larry flynt.

  Marxism…..liberalism……progressiveness or what ever you call is responsible for HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of deathe and these nutcases want to spread it here in the USA….amazing!

• 27. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 8th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

  24. js | June 8th, 2008 at 8:25 am

  And you are trying to force your fascist religious worldview down the throats of wiser men. We prefer masters who do not beat their dogs unlike you who revel in the bombing and killing and revenge and superiority of your race above all things else on terra. Even if that means the whole planet be consumed in nuclear fire so that no one else holds the whip hand to you.

  There are many places on Terra where you cannot walk the streets without stepping in human excrement. And who is to blame for this? Is it the religious people of Port-au-Prince or Gonaives, Haiti or the people close enough to Haiti’s shores that live a lifestyle seven times better than them? Or is it not your duty to make the life of your brother easier? But that’s right you are not your brother’s keeper are you, js?

  Where was this anger against gay marriage that you have when the birth control pill was invented or when divorce first spiked in America? But these things are conveniences that you enjoy and thereby you want them there to preserve your way of life. They allow you to have sex for pleasure a thing that can lead just as easily to disease and the rot you are so quick to call out for those who live in same sex relationships. I supposed you have always been a moral Christian and never had any sex until your wedding night and neither did your wife. If you were both not virgins how do you know how many filthy sexual disease you and your wife have spread across the verdant lands of Terra?
  In fact if I came to a fight and you had a gun I would laugh because with five minutes of examination of your life I could make you come within seconds of turning that gun on yourself. But alas I would not do that because your breathing life is more precious to me than it is even to you js. Yet knowing you can destroy a mind as you know is a powerful aphrodisiac.

  25. js | June 8th, 2008 at 8:37 am

  Christian values on the march.

  Hatred and false accusations of those who try to enlighten because it mocks you braying at the Sun!

  I pity you poor monster, Manunkind.

• 28. Jeremiah  |  June 8th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

  Marxism…..liberalism……progressiveness or what ever you call is responsible for HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of deathe and these nutcases want to spread it here in the USA….amazing!–FmrMarine.

  Of course, FmrMarine, that is their objective, they see that we are prospering and doing well, so they have to find some way to mess it all up….They say to themselves, “Geez, these people (Christians) are having such a nice, comfortable time in life raising families, we HAVE to find some way to screw it all up for them.”

  Let me tell you, FmrMarine, these idiots don’t know the meaning of good, the disease that is sin has rotted their minds out.

  They take something good God-made and turn it into something has been dead for a while.

  Pity…..We musn’t allow them any room to influence…trying to change their minds is useless, because God doesn’t speak to their heart anymore, He has forsaken them….thus, Satan has complete control of their minds….people must get up and start fighting, or else we’re in for some really big trouble.

• 29. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

  oh give it a break cav, your ridin a 2 legged horse…im not pushing anything christian at you…it would be nice if you read what I post…because its the truth…based in undeniable fact…not biblical verses…so to sum it up…you such a wimsy wristed pansy that you can not meet this issue head on…using nothing but the truth, facts supported by medical research…to prove anything…so your last shot is attacking religion…

  you are not much more than a fools fool cav…with all the aristocratical bull shiite you post, you have not even made a single valid point….

  which goes to show that even education does not stop stupidity…you are living proof.

• 30. Jeremiah  |  June 8th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

  But alas I would not do that because your breathing life is more precious to me than it is even to you

  Cavalor,

  Yep, Satan wants everyones life, he wants to destroy it from within…You being Satan’s follower are a recruiter to destroy people to that end.

  In fact if I came to a fight and you had a gun I would laugh because with five minutes of examination of your life I could make you come within seconds of turning that gun on yourself

  HAAAAAHAHAHAAA!

  Not with me little fellow….No thinkin’ here bub.
  You try that with me and you better not blink.

• 31. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 8th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

  28. Jeremiah | June 8th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

  Right.

  Like Marshal Petain’s fascist Vichy government you would prefer to just chop off the heads of everyone you find refuses to march to your drummer. I do not hate you Jeremiah nor do I hate Christians or Christianity or any faith. What I do find alarming is how much the people in a religion of love and light have devolved into fascist homophobia now that they have lost all the battles involving trying to put the mysteries of heterosex back into the bottle. No I do not hate you Jeremiah I just think you are stupid, naive and have had some severe damage done to you when you were a child. I wish I could undo that hurt but it is now too late and you have become a hate filled religious fanatic and you are lost.

  29. js | June 8th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

  Were I actually human I would still be a better man than you js, hands down, because I am not ignorant.

• 32. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

  i see you are trying to flatter yourself and you illusion of what you think your life is…thats funny…meanwhile…take it from the gitgo again….the case against you and thesodomite fetish you defend;;

  The structure and function of the male and female human reproductive systems are fully complementary. Anatomically he vagina is designed to receive the penis. It is lined with squamous epithelium and is surrounded by a muscular tube intended for penile intromission. The rectum, on the other hand, is lined with a delicate mucosal surface and a single layer of columnar epithelium intenuea primarily for the reabsorption of water and electrolytes. The rectum is incapable of mechanical protection against abrasion and severe damage to the colonic mucosa can result if objects that are large, sharp, or pointed are inserted into the rectum (Agnew, 1986).

  The anus and rectum, unlike the vagina contain no natural lubricating function. Thus insertion of unlubricated objects or inadequate dilation of the anus before insertion of a large object can result in tissue laceration. “The internal and external anal sphincters are elastic rings of muscle which generally remain tightly constricted except during defecation. The anal sphincters are also intended for material to pass through them in a direction that leads out of the body. When an attempt is made to insert something in the reverse direction, the muscles of the sphincter constrict” (Agnew, 1986).

  From the perspective of pathology and pathophysiology, the varied sexual practices of homosexual men have resulted in a diverse and expanded concept of sexually transmitted disease and associated trauma. “Four general groups of conditions may be encountered in homosexually active men: classical sexually transmitted diseases (gonorrhea, infections with chlamydia trachomatis, syphilis, herpes simplex infections, genital warts, pubic lice, scabies); enteric diseases (infections with Shigella species, Campylobacter jejuni, Entamoeba histolytica, Giardia lamblia, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, hepatitis non-A, non-B, and cytomegalovirus); trauma (fecal incontinence, hemorrhoids, anal fissure, foreign bodies, rectosigmoid tears, allergic proctitis, penile edema, chemical sinusitis, inhaled nitrite burns, and sexual assault of the male patient); and the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS)” (Owen, 1985).

  A study of sexually transmitted diseases in heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals reported from Copenhagen in 1988 (Christopherson), demonstrated that the profile of diseases was strongly correlated to sexual lifestyle. “Amoebiasisa and giardiasis were found respectively in 31.9% and 13.8% of homosexuals. None of the heterosexuals had pathologic protozoa … Among males with homosexual partners, 14% had rectal infections. Gonococcal and chlamydial infections were equally frequent. Three percent had symptomatic anorectal herpes simplex infection and 11% anal warts…Urethral gonorrhea and/or chlamydia infections were diagnosed in 39% of heterosexuals compared to only 10% of homosexuals and bisexuals. Twelve percent of the homosexuals had untreated early syphilis, whereas syphilis was exceptional among heterosexuals. The total burden of infections expressed as the actual number of infections was largest among homosexuals, 40.4%, 22.4%, and 5.3% having one, two, and three infections respectively.”

  In addition to infection, trauma and tumors are the primary problems related to the anorectum in homosexual men. “Consensual penile-anal intercourse can be performed safely provided there is adequate lubrication. Few anorectal problems and no evidence of anal-sphincter dysfunction are found in heterosexual women who have anal-receptive intercourse. However, forceful anal penetration without lubrication against a resistant sphincter will result in abrasive trauma, causing fissures, contusions, thrombosed hemorrhoids, lacerations with bleeding, pain, and psychic trauma” (Bush, 1986). The most severe type of anorectal trauma follows fist fornication which during the 1970s was practiced by approximately 5% of the male homosexual population (Geist, 1988). It should be noted that this activity is occasionally practiced by heterosexual and lesbian couples. This technique of anal eroticism involves having the partner insert their hand and forearm into the rectum for erotic stimulation. “The insertion of such a large object as a hand or fist creates the potential for rupture of the rectum or severe damage to the anus or rectal walls” (Agnew, 1986). “Participants frequently use drugs to produce inhibition or relaxation, thereby clouding appropriate responses to painful stimuli. Injuries sustained in this sexual activity generally tend to be severer and account for most sphincter injuries, as well as a disproportionate number of the lacerations, perforations, and deaths seen in connection with anal eroticism” (Geist, 1988).

  In addition to infections and trauma, tumors are a definlte rlsk for homosexual men. “Homosexual behavior in men is a risk factor for anal cancer. Squamous-cell anal cancer is also associated with a history of genital warts, an association suggesting that papillomavirus infection is a cause of anal cancer” (Daling, 1987). Anal warts are commonly found among individuals who practice anal intercourse and only rarely found among heterosexuals practicing vaginal intercourse. “In one series of 260 homosexual men seen by proctologists, 134 (51.5 percent) had anal warts. They may occur anywhere in the anal-genital area but are particularly common in the anus of homosexual men” (Quinn, 1984). This infection appears to be correlated with the higher incidence of anal cancer in homosexual men.

  At our Boston meeting, we spent some time discussing the complementarity of the human sexes. Although one could gather from the discussion of the consultants in scripture, theology, and Christian ethics that there may be some lack of assurance that the human sexes complement each other, I believe that it is possible to argue succinctly from an anatomical (structure) and physiological (function) point of view that the human sexes are indeed complementary.

  It is absolutely clear that anatomically and physiologically the alimentary and reproductive systems in humans are separate organ systems; i.e., the human does not have a cloaca. Likewise it is clear that even primitive cultures understand the nature of waste elimination, sexual intercourse, and the birth of children. Indeed our own children appear to “intuitively” understand these facts. I think we should note that these simple “scientific” facts are the same in any culture — patriarchal or matriarchal, modern or primitive, Jewish or gentile, etc. The anatomic and physiologic facts of alimentation and reproduction simply do not change based on any cultural setting. In fact, the logical complementarity of the human sexes has been so recognized in our culture that it has entered our vocabulary in the form of naming various pipe fittings either the male fitting or the female fitting depending upon which one interlocks within the other. When the complementarity of the sexes is breached, injuries and diseases may occur as noted above.

• 33. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

  http://americansfortruth.com/news/surgeon-general-nominee-dr-james-holsingers-1991-paper-pathophysiology-of-male-homosexuality.html

  dont believe the truth eh? its give a wide birth around the religious issue…wide enough that anyone with just a smidgen of intelligence could figure out that sodomy is a sick, filthy practice….well…anyone but you, right….

• 34. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

  i see your common strain here…anyone who opposes your sodomite conduct becomes homophobic…lol….you are sorry sack of ….yup…

• 35. Jeremiah  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

  And here is some more for you to read, Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J

  http://www.earstohear.net/Separation/sodomy.html

• 36. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

  need more support for you homosexual defense? here, try these tidbits

  The Gay Report,published by homosexual
  researchers Jay and Young in 1979,
  revealed that 73 percent of homosexuals
  surveyed had at some time had sex with
  boys 16 to 19 years of age or younger.

  Although homosexuals account for less
  than two percent of the population, they
  constitute about a third of child molesters

  A nationwide investigation of child
  molestation in the Boy Scouts from 1971 to
  1991 revealed that more than 2,000 boys
  reported molestations by adult Scout leaders.

  Judith A. Reisman, Ph.D., and Charles B.
  Johnson, Ph.D., conducted a content study
  of the personal ads in the Advocate, the
  “national gay and lesbian newsmagazine,”
  and discovered that “chickens,” a common
  term for underage boys sought for sex, were widely solicited. Many of the advertisements in the magazine solicited boys and teens from within a larger pool of prostitution ads, which constituted 63 percent of all personal ads

  cmon, defend it….nambla stated in1972 that a major goal of the sodomite agenda was to make it legal for them to molest america’s children…and your buddies in england are up to the same tact….its all about getting children to accept you and let you molest them…you sick perverts…and your only response is to attack religion…ive shot dogs that deserved it less than you do CV…alot less…

• 37. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

  32. js | June 8th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

  I would also like to ask that of that litany of diseases among homosexual men do any of those diseases occur among the patently heterosexual both men and women?

• 38. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

  do ya think we are lying? Cmon CV were ya off too? Running away from a fair fight? Do you really think its religion that proves sodomites are sick people?

  wake up…you all are after our kids..children in schools…the inflence of your lies and those same lies in our court systems have opened up gay and lesbian clubs in schools across the nation…you sick people are actually fighting for the right to molest our children…even against our permissions and consent by demanding that your sick behavior be recognized as equal to the relationships of thier families and mothers and fathers…

  Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J. <—-that person is a sick person that belongs in a prison, along with all of his butt buddies!!

• 39. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

  tell us ce….a patently heterosexual couple…doing what is natural…how exactly would they get anal fissures? or are talking about syphillis? twelve percent of you got it…its an exceptional thing to find in heterosexials…that what it said, read it yourself..right above here…

  so, while you open your mouth and prove how much of a fool you can be…you ignore 99% of the rest of the facts that are indisputible…

  you are fired.

  Get out.

• 40. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

  36. js | June 8th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

  And I still stand on the point that the other two thirds of pedophiles are straight. So what is to be gained here except pandering for the fearful? My position at the outset of this debate had no mention of NAMBLA or defending that organization that covets illegal activity.

  What I do support is the legal right for gay men and lesbians to marry those who wish to have a marriage. Plain and simple without vitriol of fearmongering about pederasty which has a great enough source globally in places where it should never exist. But once agin I digress.

  Were I the sort to gloat I would point out to you that marriages will be performed in 9 days time and all your tossing of dust in the winds will not change that. Simply I feel gays and lesbians have the right to marry, can practice monogamy thus rendering most of your trip down Gray’s anatomy lane moot and show many of your own right wing leader John McCain included how to be true to the first person you marry.

• 41. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

  it comes down to one thing…the truth…and the truth is supported by facts…..this is what Jesus gave us…this is the way to fight the lies about sodomy…even in court…they can not change the truth…

• 42. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

  actually CV…you have been done for some time now…struggling to crawl out of the pile of excrement you are trying to defend is not possible…you can double talk all you want…but you are not worth wasting time on any longer…all your have brought up are lies…like i said….

  you are fired.

• 43. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

  39. js | June 8th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

  Heterosexual couples engage in anal sex too js.

• 44. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

  (i dont think sodomites have the intellectual capacity to understand the difference between natural human behavior and deviant sexual behavior…hence thier confusion about what marraige is…you can not argue with ignorance…thats it)

• 45. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

  you been watchin too many internet porn flicks CV.

• 46. Pain  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

  38. js | June 8th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

  And despite how terribly wrong you are about this great barrister and journalist We are sure he would defend your right to this ignorant opinion to the very bitter end.

• 47. Some Assembly Required  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

  ‘Deviant Sexual Behavior’ - Any sex after marriage in which conception does not happen. If you have sex before marriage, you are the anti-Christ

  That about sum it up? You wife/husband must really love you.

• 48. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

  I think the bench has ruled in the proper manner about what is a person’s right in the privacy of their own home and what a committed relationship can be called.

  js you have a hangup about homosexuality and I would suggest that you take your fight to the streets and dedicate your life to the eradication of the “evil” that you percieve. For me, like the civil rights attorneys of fifty years ago that were threatened and tormented I stand on a person’s right to marry whom they choose. All the medical research, screaming ephithets and know nothing blog commenters can get bent really because the law in California is something about which you can do NOTHING AT ALL. And it is that impotence that you suffer with that stings you js and roils you in anger. Maybe you will catch the bouquet at a lesbian wedding in your home state one day soon and it will make things all better for you.

  I can do this all day if you allow me to grab a cuppa and give the wife a peck on the cheek.

• 49. Pain  |  June 8th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

  If js has a wife SAR that would qualify as a bloody miracle. An even greater one would be why she has not brained him with a skillet by now. We often see this kind of behaviour in so called “cured” homosexuals repression of the natural gender desire is a potent recipe for psychotic breaks and aggressive behaviour!

• 50. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

  i never noticed, but these two idiots have both thier heads stuck up the same orofice….call Guiness!!

  are you halfwits haveing fun playing in the sandbox? did ya ever figure out that the homosexual activists that took this issue out of the bedroom and stuck it on prime time tv didnt do you sodomites any favors? its not about privacy in ones own bedroom when its an issue in the public forum….its plainly not at an equal standing with heterosexual relationships, nor is its push into the public school system through gay and lesbian activism a non issue….everything is on the table boyz, you ignorance included….

• 51. js  |  June 8th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

  how bout this one?

  In 1994, the American Psychiatric Association
  (APA) quietly revised its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual IV (DSM-IV) by redefining long-standing definitions of what constitute “paraphilias” or sexual perversions
  – including pedophilia. The APA added a new
  requirement for someone to be diagnosed
  as having a paraphilia: The person’s
  behavior must now “cause clinically significant distress or impairment of social, occupational or other important areas of functioning.” The change is significant, says Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, author of Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth:

  In other words, a man who routinely and
  compulsively has sex with children, and
  does so without the pangs of conscience
  and without impairing his functioning otherwise
  is not necessarily a pedophile and in
  need of treatment. Only the man who suffers
  because of his impulses is a pedophile
  requiring treatment.

  So effectively, the APA redefined parafilia’s not based on scientific study, but on a haphazard attempt by homosexuals who had earned degees in the field of psyciatry to legitimize thier deviant sexual behavior.

• 52. Pain  |  June 9th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

  51. js | June 8th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

  Satinover! ha ha! Yet another apologist for the sex obsessed Christian Right!

  Nothing he says holds any merit anywhere real science is done. He is a hack and a charlatan for your theocratic masters who do just what you say you abhor. See ted Haggard a hypocrite which is the worst of his faults a drug addict and a self denying homosexual. But laughably he had all of you evangelicals fooled and swaying in the audience singing your Deity is such an awesome Deity as he sat there and thought about getting high and riding his motorbike to Denver to get some. What gullible freaks you people are.

  And js We know you loved Haggard sooo much and his anti-homosexual agenda. You fool your kind will believe anything they tell you and hate anything they put before you as “Other.” We truly pity you!

• 53. Jeremiah  |  June 9th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

  We truly pity you!

  God ahead and pity, Pain … but to turn it around, you’re going to need a lot of that same pity one day…and not just for one day, but forever…the shame is you won’t be getting any pity period, but suffering and torment. So hold your pity for yourself dude.

• 54. Pain  |  June 9th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

  53. Jeremiah | June 9th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

  Your Freudian slip is showing!

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