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Yes, but he’s not making it mandatory. I support this. I think everyone has a right to healthcare. I really do not see a difference in shooting someone or and insurance company denying them healthcare because of a ‘pre-existing condition’. In fact, it’s probably worse. At least with someone shoots you they’ll only take what is on your person. Insurance companies take your money on a monthly basis and then do not cover you when push comes to shove. How is that not criminal?

“But you seem to think that if someone needs something that no one should profit from it. Your own words. ”

Not when it comes to healthcare they shouldn’t. So you think people should make money on other peoples illness and pain? People should profit from the deaths of others? Explains why you support the war in Iraq without question. What a shining example of a Christian you are.

“I thought you said weed did not cause hallucinations?”

All depends on what’s in the ‘weed’. It’s ok to be jealous of other people, I’m kind of flattered actually.

What’s the matter too much token’ in the evening?

I never said it was in Obama’s plan. You are supporting a guy who is not in favor of what you think will work. He wants Nationalized health care for everyone and not just children.

But you seem to think that if someone needs something that no one should profit from it. Your own words. If you can’t see the correlation then stop doing so many doobies.

“It was a good weekend. Glad you noticed. I did not play video games though. I was too busy being a ’sexual deviant’ with the girlfriend. Man, she is all kinds of freak and I love it!”

I thought you said weed did not cause hallucinations?

Obama is not entirely nationalizing heathcare. If he was he would do away with private insurance companies. Not gonna happen. His heath plan is NOT MANDATORY except for Children.

as for this nice little nugget of wisedom..

“Everyone at some point will need legal representation at some point, but I don’t see liberals calling to nationalize that industry as well.”

If you do not break the law, you will not need legal representation. Prison is the only way in which your personal well being is in question. This is assuming of course you have home/car/medical insurance to cover any ridiculous civil suits that may come your way. I also believe it’s written somewhere that ‘If you cannot afford an attorney one will be appointed to you’. Granted, it’ll probably be some reject intern, but everyone can’t afford OJ’s lawyer now can they.

“I see you had too much weed and video games this weekend.”

It was a good weekend. Glad you noticed. I did not play video games though. I was too busy being a ’sexual deviant’ with the girlfriend. Man, she is all kinds of freak and I love it!

Wow you actually were able to cut and paste that whole thing without giving credit to the source. [boortz.com]

That bit of plagiarism aside . . .

And can see why you would distrust the American government on health care considering they have cost you 4100+ lives and trillions of dollars wasted in Iraq and on the “War on terror.”

Something has to be done about health care in America because the Boomers are coming for their entitlement and the young people have to be heathy enough to work hard to keep them on the golf course!

I’m all about a National Health Service just like the British model.

That’s not what your boy Obama’s plan is!

He wants to nationalize the health industry. So, you are without a candidate who will regulate only.

“Healthcare cannot, and will not work as long as it is a profit industry. Everyone on the planet will get sick or need medical attention at some point.”

Everyone at some point will need legal representation at some point, but I don’t see liberals calling to nationalize that industry as well. Oh, maybe it’s because the trial lawyers make a fortune on frivolous medical lawsuits - another special interest of the democrats.

Forced government regulation will have a worse affect on insurance rates and coverages. When it gets too expensive, something is going to have to give and it will be coverage.

Ted kennedy and the Democrats gave us the HMO system debacle. Why should we entrust them more with a bigger chunk of the pie? They have already screwed with the system and failed miserably.

I see you had too much weed and video games this weekend.

Agreed, but the solution is not to eliminate employer based health insurance so the individual will be vulnerable. A smarter system would be to regulate the minimum amount of coverage required.

What McCain is proposing is a fairy tale plain and simple. What chance does an individual have against a muti-billion dollar insurance company? If you think pre-existing condition exemptions are a problem now, wait until this ’single payer’ system comes into play.

One of two things will end up happening, maybe even both. Insurance companies will refuse to cover more then what they do now. You will see the formation of Healthcare Unions to battle insurance companies.

Healthcare cannot, and will not work as long as it is a profit industry. Everyone on the planet will get sick or need medical attention at some point. To force them to pay for treatment to save their live if not only immoral but it is also unchristian.

Candidate No. 1.

“I have great faith in the government of the United States. The government has done a wonderful job of protecting the retirement of tens of millions of senior citizens through Social Security, the most successful public program in the history of governance. There are many other tremendous government successes we should be celebrating every day. On the health front we have Medicare, Medicaid and our incredible veteran’s hospitals. We also have the new prescription medicine program without which thousands would certainly die every year. The only way to insure that the citizens of this country have adequate health care is to make sure that the same government that brought us Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare brings us our everyday health care services. The private sector works fine for things and services that people don’t actually need. Essential services, however, must be provided by government. Profits are OK for non-essential goods and services. Nobody should make an obscene profit caring for the health of our nation. In the first 100 days after my election I will begin the process of nationalizing our health care and health insurance industries. To be sure, it will be expensive. But there are thousands of wealth people in this country who each year earn far more money than they actually need. These millionaires owe a debt to the working people of this country who have enriched them. Starting next January 20th, I’ll be the debt collector for the working class.”

Candidate No. 2

“I know that many of you are distressed over the cost of health care, the cost of health insurance and the difficulty some of your fellow citizens have in getting basic medical care. You have been told that the solution is more government. The reality is that the solution is less government. Since World War II our government has been involved in a systematic and deliberate effort to thwart any attempt Americans might make to become self reliant in terms of their own health care. Big-government politicians have created a tax structure whereby your employer can get a big tax write-off for providing you with insurance, but you get no tax break if you buy that insurance policy on your own. The goal here has been to compel you to rely on others for your health insurance rather than yourself. Lobbyists have cajoled state legislatures to add expensive “mandates” to insurance policies, often pricing those insurance policies out of your reach. If, after all, you and your spouse have no plans to procreate, why should you pay for maternity benefits? I understand the power of the competitive free marketplace. Our history is full of examples of explosions in innovation and customer service for many industries when the government gets out of the way. For one example you need look no further than the deregulation of the phone companies. As your president I intend to use the proven power of the free market to make health care more affordable and available to all Americans. No longer will our tax code punish you for assuming the responsibility for your own medical care. Under my reform plans you will be able to put aside thousands of dollars every year, tax free, to cover your basic medical needs. This will enable you to buy insurance policies; policies free of mandates; policies tailored to meet your specific needs. These policies will be substantially cheaper than those available to you today because of the large deductibles your medical savings accounts will allow. History shows when the government gets out of the way of the free marketplace the consumers are the eventual winners. This would include consumers of health care. I’m not interested in giving the government the power to control your health care. I’ll leave that desire to those who believe America is great because of government. My goal will be to get the government out of the way and unleash the power of the marketplace.”

OK … there you go. Two candidates; two messages. Care to cast a vote?

Well I know how SAR (weed and video games) and Casper (teacher union stooge) will vote.

SAR - when the cost of insurance is too high the company is willing to pay, it will switch coverage for a lesser plan. FACT! It happens all the time.

Casper - listening to those myths and talking points again I see. There is “insurance” available for those without. It’s called state run hospitals and health care and those are just so efficient. Let’s put is on a national scale. And, at the same time use the usual liberal tactic of the politics of fear they love so much.

Watching these lemmings, I’d rather watch paint dry.