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The Contrast Between Democrats and Republicans

June 27th, 2008 at 05:19am Mark Noonan

Excellently illustrated recently in a debate between Donna Brazile (who is actually a very smart woman, but she’s got little to work with these days) and Bill Bennett on CNN’s Situation Room, as noted by Catholics in the Public Square:

WOLF BLITZER: If you had been at that news conference, Bill, and you had a chance to ask one question, today, what would you have asked, if you were a reporter?

BILL BENNETT: I think when he brought up Chicago I would have said “why are you to the left of NARAL, Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein when it comes to abortion? Are you really there?” Not that it’s the only issue in the campaign, but I gotta question the guy’s moral judgment, who doesn’t see a problem with killing a baby after it’s been born after eight months.

DONNA BRAZILE: But he’s had an opportunity in several debates to talk about his position on abortion –

BENNETT: What is the answer to that question?

BRAZILE: Bill, look –

BENNETT: What is the answer?!

BRAZILE: You want to have a conversation about narrow issues –

BENNETT: That is not: that is fundamental!

BRAZILE: It is a fundamental issue, but the American people want to talk about gas prices

More accurately, the American people are concerned with gas prices; it is Democrats who want to talk about it, because Obama and his Democrats have no actual plan for energy, but do feel they can score cheap points off the issue, as well as keep people off the subject of Obama’s manifest incapacity to be President of the United States. That aside, this also shows the very smallness of modern Democrats. Leave foreign affairs to the UN; use the military as a social services agency and please lets talk about gas prices as if the price of a gallon of gas is the largest issue in the whole, wide world. Truth is, it only modestly annoys me once per week when I fill up the tank - but even then I can pat myself on the back for not purchasing an SUV, as so many liberals do (one of the larger problems I noted in getting around Santa Monica, CA is the massive number of SUVs clogging the roads in that oh, so liberal city). Most of the time, the price of gas doesn’t come up - what with worries over the old man’s health, the purchase of a new dog and, you know, that life thingy that we’re supposed to be doing instead of worrying about gas prices.

Meanwhile, a very large number of my fellow human beings will be murdered this year, mostly because some people have been suckered into thinking that its no big deal to kill the unborn. Somehow, the death of a human being looms a little larger in the grand scheme of things than the difference between $3.25 and $4.25 a gallon…

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  • 1. Danish Artist  |  June 27th, 2008 at 6:18 am

    Where’s Nancy Pelosi’s plan for a “common sense” legislation on oil & gas? A 2006 promise that has not seen the light of day.

    “Yes we can” slogan of Obama’s campaign has turned into “No we can’t” when it comes to drilling for our own oil, wind, solar, hydro or nuclear energy supplies. Well, the Democrats have to look out for their special interests. PLUS, why solve it now? To the libs, its the perfect weapon for the election. Do nothing, blame Bush and the non-liberals. I mean it’s more important to obtain the White House than avg. Joe’s problem of affordable energy.

    The only choice that libs want to give the American people is whether or not to burden a woman with the responsibility of a child.

    Choice on abortion… “YES WE CAN”.

    Choice on taxing the rich… “YES WE CAN”.

    Choice on windfall profits tax… “YES WE CAN”.

    Choice on schools…. “NO WE CAN’T”.

    Choice on oil supply… “NO WE CAN’T”

    Choice between nuclear and coal energy generation… “NO WE CAN’T”.

    Choice of health care… “NO WE CAN’T”.

    Obama is just another “change” candidate like Clinton ‘92…. and like Clinton ‘92, he will be a huge disappointment and failure.

    But you lemmings will continue with “Change we can believe in”, “Yes, we can” and any other slogan he (or his handlers) dream up.

    Will political slogans lower the price of gas, lower food prices, lower the cost of health care etc. etc.

    Hardly, but you useful idiots will think so.

  • 2. The New Conservative  |  June 27th, 2008 at 6:36 am

    That’s would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. So to Donna Brazile Gas prices are more of a priority than Abortion. I’m pretty sure that going to offend people on both sides of the Aisle.

    http://www.thenewconservatives.blogspot.com/

  • 3. OhioOrrin  |  June 27th, 2008 at 7:30 am

    Bennett - “…killing a baby after it’s been born after eight months.”

    re-read that statement.

    makes no sense.

  • 4. Just Say No - To Obama  |  June 27th, 2008 at 7:42 am

    Deleted - off topic.

  • 5. js  |  June 27th, 2008 at 8:12 am

    really, think about that JSN, why isnt alchohol can caffine on that list?

    face it….they are all mood altering drugs…even these energy drinks jamed with vitamins are drugs….our society is pump by drug pushers that are both legal and illegal…..

  • 6. Mark Noonan  |  June 27th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    Ohio,

    The meaning would be along the lines of late term abortions and those aborted babies who are born alive - Obama is opposed to ending the former and protecting the latter.

  • 7. Magnum Serpentine  |  June 27th, 2008 at 10:40 am

    The citizens of this nation don’t give a hoot about Abortion. The citizens want to know what Obama will do about getting our gas prices down and what he will do to stabilize the economy.

    The Citizens already know what team McBush will do we are already seeing it. And Wolf Blitzer is a republic party member.

  • 8. neocon  |  June 27th, 2008 at 10:48 am

    Mags,

    Citizens of this nation don’t give a hoot about abortion? Really?

    So if we made abortion illegal, there’d be no opposition?

    And Blitzer is a republican?

    Wow. Things are looking up!

    peace, neocon

  • 9. Danish Artist  |  June 27th, 2008 at 11:22 am

    “The citizens of this nation don’t give a hoot about Abortion. The citizens want to know what Obama will do about getting our gas prices down and what he will do to stabilize the economy.”

    What will Obama do?

    Don’t tell me to go to his website. I want to know what you know. If you know in detail, or are you just regurgitating talking points again?

  • 10. Karl Engels  |  June 27th, 2008 at 11:39 am

    Obamas Tax Revolution

    The progressive tax system will finally come back into play under Obama. We will soak the rich and finally fulfill the fact that Democracy is the road to socialism.
    Let the ruling classes tremble at the Democratic revolution. The people have nothing to lose, but their chains. .Workers of the Unites States unite!

  • 11. Tractatus  |  June 27th, 2008 at 11:41 am

    So to Donna Brazile Gas prices are more of a priority than Abortion. I’m pretty sure that going to offend people on both sides of the Aisle.

    I’m pretty sure most people would agree, actually. I’m sorry your pet issue isn’t the biggest thing on people’s minds right now, but you’re going to have to accept it.

  • 12. Dennis  |  June 27th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Neocon - it’s not that “citizens of this nation don’t give a hoot about abortion” - it’s that they insist the government stay out of their private lives. Many people are opposed to abortion on general principles who would never consent to criminalizing an issue so personal and so fraught with complications and moral ambiguities.

    You can only justify calling abortion murder if you are also willing to call capital punishment and wars which kill the innocent murder. Capital punishment and wars take lives of fully-realized human beings who possess emotions, moral perceptions, aspirations, memories and have established social relationships with others.

    Zygotes and fetuses may be human but they are not yet capable of rational thought, they have no memories, no aspirations, no emotional attachments and no individual identity. They haven’t yet taken a place in society.

    If self-styled conservatives who take such a hard line on abortion were moral purists who were equally opposed to the taking of all life, they would at least have credibility. But the reality is that they are moral poseurs with a political axe to grind, and most Americans somehow grasp that. And that is why gas prices are of more concern to the broader public than abortion.

  • 13. Jay Gaultieri  |  June 27th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    Essentially this post was stating that high gas prices don’t matter because of abortion, a post aimed at the ten or so grumpy old men who constitute what’s left of the B4V audience. But the truth is most Americans tuned out the abortion issue long ago, and almost all Americans are concerned about the price of gas. The end.

  • 14. js  |  June 27th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    no it doesnt say that

    it points out that democrats are afraid of the abortion topic…and the guy changes the subject so he doesnt have to answer it…

    you really didnt connect the dots to well…

  • 15. js  |  June 27th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    and dennis…for real…pay attention

    you will not find one medical professional that will testify that a zygot and a fetus in a human womans body is not a living human being. period. no matter how you dice it…you cant change the fundamental facts…because its the truth

  • 16. Jeremiah  |  June 28th, 2008 at 12:02 am

    Capital punishment and wars take lives of fully-realized human beings who possess emotions, moral perceptions, aspirations, memories and have established social relationships with others.–Dennis.

    Yes. But the individuals in question must commit a crime before their life is taken. Capital punishment and wars are measures that are taken so that others may grasp the sense ‘Murder is wrong.’

    Do not murder, obey the law and you will not have to fear the Law Man.

    You see? The Law was created to keep peace.

    Where is the law concerning abortion as murder?

    We’re working on it.

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