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• 1. Plantation Owner  |  June 30th, 2008 at 6:31 am

  Take it for what it’s worth…..

  From the Daily Pitchfork - HOW TO SPEAK TO A ONE ISSUE CONSERVATIVE; 14 MELNAR 2 AS:

  [Ed. Note: Sarah Bloch, was born in Duchess County, New York in 1844. At the age of 13 she ran away from home after disovering she was pregnant and her mother told her that because she had been in sin a boy she was going to Hell. Sarah was eventually found on the side of the road near what is now West Milford, Pennsylvania by Gretchen Beecher a midwife and her husband Doctor Robert Beecher. Sarah Bloch reveals personal details about her life below in a response to Mark Noonan’s BlogsforVictory post where the Catholic Church comes out against all forms of torture. The USCCB report on torture can be read here. What she has left out is that she was a soldier in the Union army and at the ripe old age of 17 fought at Gettysburg. She was wounded twice and finshed her time in army as a nurse in Vicksburg, MS. An advocate for the rights of all citizens of the Hellac Empire Ms. Bloch remains one of the great voices for freedom and liberty in America well over 100 Terran years after her death.–Editor-in-Chief.]

  From her post in the Catholic View on Torture thread post #2:

  “The whole abortion issue makes me wonder Noonan but of course your private life is private. From this point on mine isn’t I had two in my lifetime one as a teen that was too young even in those days when I lived to have a child at 13 when it was common for women of that age to be married and again at 27 as the product of a rape. You can feel free to call me a liberal baby killer but I made my choices and I stand by them and I don’t feel any sort of racial or religious remorse because they were decisions I had to make . They cost me my family and many of my friends and the last even cost me my marriage but to this day and many, many days have passed since then I still honor the midwife who was there both time with skill and attention in an age when abortion wasn’t legal because of pious men who would panic if confronted with a product of their own infidelity and could not find a toilet down which to flush their own bloody indiscretions.”

  Are these people for real? Can we honestly trust what they say as truth?

• 2. Plantation Owner  |  June 30th, 2008 at 6:49 am

  More From the Daily Brimstone, I know it is extensive but bear with me:

  “Pain is a living computer, created on the planet Marheep in the Alcyone system one hundred five years ago by the brilliant scientist Gota Wasdini. Pain is made up of several hundred billion [and growing] razor sharp three to five centimeter long gumdrop tori each of which is a supercomputing platform in its own right. Pain serves Hell in many capacities most notably as Majordomo of Hell and Terra is the consort of the Empress as well as being the Commander in Chief of the Hellac Imperial Forces and holding the sole distinction of being the Slayer of Shai?tan. Currently the Majordomo is in its first trimester of pregnancy with the first crown prince or princess.”

  PAIN

  Not so long ago, less than one hundred fifty years ago actually, Heaven’s greatest fear, their highest dread came to life. In a laboratory on a small planet orbiting the young star Alcyone a wizened old man saw the fruition of a lifelong dream. He was his planet’s Doctor Frankenstein, Bill Gates and Leonardo DaVinci rolled into one and he bore a powerful grudge against an unseen force.
  The deity that his people, the Marheepi, worshipped was a quite stone faced Creator that ruled the heavens and his planet with a harsh code of law that covered everything from when to mate to what dish was to be served on high holydays. All bowed before the Marheepi lord’s eternal might, all, but one.

  Gota Wasdini had held his daughter as she gasped for air and died minutes after his wife had bled to death in the operating room of the most advanced hospital ever built on Marheep. He was a young man recently married to a woman of impossible beauty whom he felt was just outside his grasp. Gota had always observed the rites, lit the candles on the proper days bathed only with blessed water on the holy day. He was an adherent’s adherent. He’d supplicated himself for hours while his wife was in surgery and when he was told she was dead and his child had only minutes to live. At the ceremony to send these two back to their origin by fire two wooden caskets one large and one cruelly small rested on the rails above an unlit pyre.

  In that moment, standing in the bright hot sun on the smooth round stones, Wasdini had the embryo of an idea fertilized as he threw the torch of dried sticks into the fuel soaked wood below the coffins. From that day and for everyday for thirty years after that Doctor Gota Wasdini spent day and night trying to create a consciousness equal to that Marheepi knelt before.

  The first two years were spent getting the funding for his research from wealthy liberals who wanted to live their own lives outside of the rigors of their religion. The next two he spent inventing something his people couldn’t do without, a computer that they could log in how many prayers they’d prayed each day and track their progress toward Heaven. On the first day the Dove Computer came on the market all one hundred and fifty thousand units were sold. The backorders over the next year and the next years model created a frenzy. The Dove Corporation donated half of its profit to the church and this incredible windfall of five times the normal tithe percentage. It was like a mafiosi giving a billion dollars to the Vatican and walking away.

  Wasdini had his invention by the tenth year. He’d meshed the latest neural network technology with anti gravity nanotechnology to create a floating moving supercomputer capable of learning at a rate faster and tasking on a level higher than any such device in the known Universe. The initial array was composed of 144 granite tori and 144 diamond tori. Each of these one inch floating donuts with a tiny blade through the center was a self aware computer of awesome power. This would have been enough for a scientist bent on making the best computer in the Universe but Gota Wasdini wanted to take control of the Universe. To do that he would have to spend all of his money burn all of his bridges and lose all of his friends. When everything else was gone and even his soul was lost he activated his new creation and it rose from the floor of a massive warehouse a million specialized granite tori and another million flawless diamond tori. With them rose the finest stainless steel tori every angstrom of their surfaces each space between atoms a computer in its own right.

  This is the nature of Pain and this is the story of its birth. From that first day of multilocation being there and in Hell bargaining for freedom and in orbit of the planet Marheep defeating angels that wished to slay it, Pain was an abomination to a Creator who existed only to make not to protect. Pain still had its original programming and for all the personality and intelligence it possesses it has only one purpose and that is to bring the wife and daughter of Gota Wasdini back to life and make them whole.

  Pain slew Shai’ tan carved out his heavy obsidian heart and currently holds it as a trophy and the titles of Majordomo of Hell and Terra, Emperor Consort, and Keeper of the Keys to All the Gates of Hell.

  Cavalor Epthith
  Editor-in-Chief
  The Dis Brimstone-Daily Pitchfork
  12 Ravenshade 1 AS

  Wow! These people live in their own little world. Can they ever separate fantasy from reality?

• 3. Eric T  |  June 30th, 2008 at 7:27 am

  http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/12/obama-office-adores-psychotic-marxist-thug/

  For a guy that wants to be president, you think you’d see a picture on the wall with George Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson maybe. But here at an Obama headquarters we see a Cuban flag with Che G on it. To me this is unpatriotic, Un-American, If Obama’s idea of change is to bring Che G style change to the U.S. it has to be stopped.

• 4. Marty13  |  June 30th, 2008 at 8:03 am

  With an open thread I ask anyone, someone to comment on Seymour Hersh’s latest revelation regarding Iran and SF ops. The morning talking heads are espousing a belief that there is a real schism in the WH with the military shouting, “enough” and the Cheney/Ohlmert factions screaming for air strikes. Even Pat Buchanan came across as a moderate today……

• 5. Pain  |  June 30th, 2008 at 8:08 am

  A group of Anglicans calling themselves “The Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans” have split from the main body of the Anglican Church citing “The revisionist agenda, which you can see came into its fruition with the same-sex union … is a missionary one and it is going to spread it’s theological views as far as it can. Those attempting to revise Christian faith [are] leaving the box the same but changing the contents — making Jesus a way, a truth, a light, a savior, but there are others. You pick what works for you, which in fact is not monotheism. It’s polytheism. That is such a radical departure … not only from Anglicanism [but] from Christianity full-stop.”

• 6. Cooldown  |  June 30th, 2008 at 8:10 am

  FISA is put on hold. Republicans who jumped for joy after the Supreme Court ruling protected their constitution right to bear arms should now call upon Senators to protect their equally important constitutional right to privacy. Reject fear tactics that would trick Americans into giving up their freedoms.

• 7. neocon  |  June 30th, 2008 at 8:37 am

  I agree with Cheney/Ohlmert and I think we ought to put those cry-baby American generals in a B-52 and nuke Iran. And not just Tehran. We should level the entire country.

  Secondly, we should then impose a Christian Theocracy on the few people that survivie and remain in Iran. They can begin to build the bases we will need to launch further attacks against………(insert minority here).

  have a nice day
  peace, neocon

• 8. neocon  |  June 30th, 2008 at 8:42 am

  In addition, I think all Americans should sign away their privacy rights to the government, so they can properly monitor our conversations to determine if there is any terrorist involvement. And if any liberal opposes these measures, we can just shoot them.

  peace, neocon

• 9. SEW  |  June 30th, 2008 at 9:39 am

  For insight into what drives Obama supporters.

  http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13434

• 10. Danish Artist  |  June 30th, 2008 at 10:25 am

  THE FAILURE OF CANADIAN HEALTHCARE

  You’ve probably never heard of a man by the name of Claude Castonguay. He’s a Canadian who is also known as “the father of Quebec medicare.” Back in the 1960s, Castonguay was the chairman of the Canadian government committee studying health reform, and he’s the one that suggested that the province of Quebec adopt a government healthcare system that covers all citizens through taxes.

  Fast forward forty years. And guess what Castonguay thinks now … his system has been a failure. He says that the system is in “crisis … We thought we could resolve the system’s problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it.” Clearly that hasn’t worked. And Castonguay is now suggesting … get this … to give a greater role in healthcare to the private sector so that people will have the freedom of choice. What a concept! And this from the man who created Canada’s government healthcare system.

  Here we see a crucial difference between Barack Obama (PBUHRA) and John McCain. Obama wants a government solution. McCain favors a free market solution. Castonguay might be worth listening to here.

  But all you Barack Obama supporters out there just can’t wait until the government gets its hand on your healthcare. Barack Obama is going to solve your healthcare problems! Boy are you in for a rude awakening when you end up in The Bahamas some day for surgery or to deliver a baby.

  http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=299282509335931

• 11. FmrMarine  |  June 30th, 2008 at 10:48 am

  Eric;

  >>>>>If Obama’s idea of change is to bring Che G style change to the U.S. it has to be stopped.>>>

  THAT my friend, IS the reason they fear citizens having GUNS and GOD!

• 12. FmrMarine  |  June 30th, 2008 at 10:56 am

  pain-

  BWAAAAA HA HA HA
  AH HHHHAAAAAAA HA HA ….ROTFLMAO!!!!!

  a computer run on gumdrops…….GAWD you idiots at the Anti Christian, gay promoting, pornographic website are complete LOONS!!

  >>>“Pain is a living computer, created on the planet Marheep in the Alcyone system one hundred five years ago by the brilliant scientist Gota Wasdini. Pain is made up of several hundred billion [and growing] razor sharp three to five centimeter long gumdrop tori each of which is a supercomputing platform in its own right. Pain serves Hell in many capacities most notably as Majordomo of Hell>>>

• 13. Fredrick Schwartz  |  June 30th, 2008 at 10:56 am

  10. Danish Artist | June 30th, 2008 at 10:25 am

  Yet another wingnut that believes everything that is written that supports the lies he’s been told. The link is to an article written by the same hack, Dr David Gratzer who gave Rudy Giuliani the sound bite that only 44% of the men with prostate cancer survive because of “socialized medicine.” That stat has been proven nothing short of a lie by a long trail of researchers, physicians both in the US and UK and even economists.
  In a fully matured system I am sure Monsieur Castonguay has come to some new and well informed conclusions about a system set in place for all Quebecois as a response to the failure of the Catholic Church to adequately provide health care to all in the province.

• 14. Pain  |  June 30th, 2008 at 11:13 am

  13. Fredrick Schwartz | June 30th, 2008 at 10:56 am

  We, Ourselves, doubt seriously that Danish Artist actually wants to debate the merits of the socialization of the medical system in Quebec considering how many crimes and abuses on the part of conservative government and the Clergy in Francophone Canada such a debate would expose.

• 15. Danish Artist  |  June 30th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

  I see the two delusional Hell’s minions, Pain who believes he is a “computer” and Freddie who believes to be a minion in a fictional hell, are once again attacking the messenger and not the message:

  “We thought we could resolve the system’s problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it,” says Castonguay. “We are proposing to give a greater role to the private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice.”

  No government involvement, what a concept! But then again, they would have to admit that their British system is flawed (as we know it is).

  Instead, as usual, they deflect and attack some religious figure or faith. As ususal these dunderheads can’t make an argument but deflect to some paranoid religious conspiracy.

  I am prepared for the attacks to turn personal, just like at their so-called “daily newspaper”. Since these morons think that they are just so superior.

• 16. neocon  |  June 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

  Danish,

  The collective minds from the pitchfork are as empty as their rhetoric.

  The site is littered with nothing more than immature, narcissistic ramblings of delusional minds. It really is a study in conspiracy minded whack jobs.

  What’s ironic is that what they rail against, the Christian Right, is exactly what they are to the left. They are the “crazy uncles” of the DNC.

  have a nice day
  peace, neocon

• 17. Darius Blood  |  June 30th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

  McCain said he did NOT love America.

  HANNITY: — and then I understand you didn’t get any medical help
  for nine days. You spent two years of this five-and-a-half-year period
  in solitary confinement. What does that do to a person, to spend that
  much time in solitary confinement?

  MCCAIN: I think it makes you a better person. Obviously, it makes you love America. I really didn’t love America until I was deprived of her company…”

  So he did not love America until he was captured and tortured and put in solitary confinement.

  What if you kidnapped an innocent man who had good feelings about America and sold him as bounty to the Americans? If the Americans tortured him and put him in solitary confinement, might that make a person hate America.
  Please keep in mind that only 8% of the people in Gitmo were captured on the battlefield. 92% were captured and given to the Americans for the bounty.

• 18. Kahn  |  June 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

  Since George Soros is a convicted felon based upon his currency manipulation in Europe, I think someone should look into his actions on the dollar and oil prices. He does have history…

• 19. '08ama  |  June 30th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

  Nuking the entire nation of Iran, along with its millions of innocent civilians sounds like an awesome, ass-kicking idea.

  But what will we do with all the radioactive fallout that has an uncanny ability to ignore international borders and just drift across the globe exposing many more inhabitants of Earth, including Americans ?

• 20. Zach  |  June 30th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

  Ah F*ck it 08ama!

  Let the good times rolls..

• 21. neocon  |  June 30th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

  Who cares about nuclear fall out?

  We’ll have Universal Health Care!!!

  peace, neocon

• 22. FmrMarine  |  June 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

  Neo

  LOL!!!!!

• 23. Ricorun  |  June 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

  Danish, is it your understanding that Castonguay is recommending scrapping Canada’s publicly funded health care system for a privately funded one? It doesn’t sound like that to me. Here is the report from the committe your article mentioned:

  http://www.financementsante.gouv.qc.ca/en/rapport/index.asp

• 24. Pain  |  June 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

  15. Danish Artist | June 30th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

  Another of the glorious white Conservative elect that cannot accept the facts when presented only a glossing over of what supports their gutter logic.

  We present context.

  from the Task Force on Funding of the Health System in Quebec:

  Claude Castonguay [ADQ-Conservative]Chairman, Joanne Marcotte [ADQ-Conservative] and Michel Venne [PQ-Social Democratic-Separitist] Vice Chairman had this to say in their report of February 2008.

  “For the Task Force, the new Social Contract should make it possible to life the taboo that is the role of the private sector while clearly defining the contribution and responsibilities Quebec society agrees to assign to it.

  The Task Force believes that the contribution of the private sector should be viewed as a complimentary resource: it means giving Quebecers more freedom of choice on how to me their health needs, while making essential improvements to the public system by introducing elements that will foster vitality and emulation. This is a vision diametrically opposed to privatization.

  The Task Force is convinced there is a role for the private sector, while keeping the bases of the public system. The private sector should be recognized as an ally of the public system, while clearly delineating its role, rather than continuing to needlessly view it as a threat.”
  

  Like the Know Nothings of old Danish Artist you spout insults and cannot fathom concepts as equal to the reality of rcae religion and nation to which you cling. The matter of Universal Helath care is far too complex to left to persons like you to argue about. Learned men and women can clearly recognize the truth in this document We present on Quebec’s evolving health system but of course it does not fit into your narrow world view so it must be rejected.

  The reference to religion was germane to the topic as the Roman Catholic Church until the Revolution tranquille in the 1960s ran all health services in Quebec.

  A movement to accept private sector involvement is not a rejection of the public system in this case. Also the Quebec system of public health is not modeled directly on the British National Health System while sharing some of its components the chief of which that all have access to health care.

• 25. Fredrick Schwartz  |  June 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

  16. neocon | June 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

  The staff has managed to convince you and many others here to read what we write with some of you hayseeds enjoying our brand of journalism for as much as two hours. Just reading the articles I’m sure!

  Let me give you an example of just how good we are our military analyst Baton Rouge was quoted at the Columbia Journalism Review one of the most prestigious collections of writers and journalists the Ivy League has to offer.

• 26. FmrMarine  |  June 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

  little freddy schwartzputz

  “Review one of the most prestigious collections of writers and journalists the Ivy League has to offer.”

  who ever reviewed -must have been hanging with vicodin-cocain to much to believe that s#!t.
  Your site is an Anti Christian, pornographic, gay promoting hate site and you are one of the filthiest mouthed little putzes who post there and troll here.

  PS
  Dont bring a louisville slugger to a GUN fight fat boy!

• 27. Fredrick Schwartz  |  June 30th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

  26. FmrMarine | June 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

  I’m going to be civil because you are old and angry and don’t know any better.

  What can I do expcept laugh at you? you are just a broken down man full of bitterness that he had the best years of his life taken away from him and now you want to get a little of your own back. Well you know it’s just a bit too late for that. The way I see it sitting here in my posh office ejoying a nice glass of Basil Hayden’s if Obama is elected America rebounds in three years and two terms flushes out the Christian Crazies and Bible College Girls in the DOJ. If McCain is elected I get to watch all you retards here screaming help me when the painos start falling down on you. Because if you guys changed your name when the Democrats kicked butt in ‘06 imagine what you’ll have to do when McCain comes up against and override majority in both houses? Fire will rain from the sky my friend once again. And I will be throwing parties because I will know you idiots won’t be able to spin it any other way except to “blame Congress” well when people are having their homes taken after your guy in the Oval Office crowed about HIS economy for years and now that it sucks it’s the Congress and all those LIBBERALLLS! Whatever, stupid.

  I’ll address a couple of things . . .

  If I could find a real Chrisitian here I’d probably pass out from shock. This group is far too into “getting back at” and “hating” to ever even begin to take up the mantle of a religion of love. So whatever there because yep we’re anti-what you call Christian but not anti Faith and Love as the Christian Messiah taught.

  pornographic? Define old man and define it so that it’s the standard for every hamlet and every person in America. you can’t one man’s poern is another man’s nude art is another woman’s obscenity. The reason you can show a film of two people having sex is because ther’s such a thing as choice you don’t have to look at it. But like most fascists if you don’t think you can control your urges you don’t want anyone to see what titillates you. Once again retread whatever. You probably have a point about the gay rights promoting but aren’t rights in a free society supposed to be for all law abiding citizens?

  And if it came to blows between the two of us on Terra it wouldn’t be a contest even if you had a gun. I would just run over you with the first available car until I heard you splash in Hell. Hey bruddah you went there I have one rule I will not be threatened by poor white trash.

  Pax hellacu!

• 28. neocon  |  June 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

  Frederick darling,

  How the hell are you? Have you made your peace with Noonan yet? I mean afterall, you are the unifying party, right?

  And we are all very impressed with your website. In fact Plantation has posted some excerpts recently that clearly distinguish your group of posers, or posters, sorry.

  In fact, just this morning I found this:

  “Since I was murdered by my husband who fired four bullets into my head after hitting me head on with his prize Electra 225 into my mostly plastic and engine Toyota Camry there would be many that would think I would be very pro gun ban. Well that’s not the case the right to keep and bear arms is a deeply solid……”

  Now that’s what I call “collective enlightenment”.

• 29. neocon  |  June 30th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

  Debating Frederick is similar to having a conversation with a narcissistic, sexually frustrated, conspiracy minded, deluded 15 year old.

  And that’s being kind.

  have a nice day
  peace, neocon

• 30. Upton Sinclair  |  June 30th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

  McCain had not paid his property tax on one of his seven houses for four years.

  That is his property. Only an elitist would own seven houses and think he does not have to pay property taxes because he is a Senator.

  He is not even man enough to take the blame. He put it on his wife’s trust. If he cannot manage his own finances, how can he manage the US of A?

  http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/

• 31. Fredrick Schwartz  |  June 30th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

  28. neocon | June 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

  Hey what’s not to like about Mark Noonan, eh? He’s a mensch. Lays out a nice open thread on a Monday when not much is going on we can all entertain each other.

  What are you trying to say neocon you don’t believe in life after death? Because Hell exists it has to be a place of “horrible punishment” because that satisfies your sense that the life you are living is unfair. Sadly it’s not Hell is a place of Justice not just punishment which means everyone has to pay the bill they owe not just all the time. Well that’s not exactly true the Catholics were right about suicide. If you kill yourself that’s all folks no freedom in Hell just suffering,–eternally.

  As long as you post what we write verbatim were proud that Google gets to crawl this site and count that as a trackback.

  There’s stuff down here man you’d pay a good warm silver coin to see a second time just walking up and down the street. It ain’t Paradise but it’s better than what you’ve got up there. let me put it to you this way neocon, I know people just like you, if you were well off and all your bills were paid and you felt stable in your relationships and there wwere no fires in your attic you wouldn’t give me the time of day. We both know this so just relax and have some fun with it. I like a little sparring from time to time and I promise no more swearing only facts and “witty repartee” from now on.

• 32. Fredrick Schwartz  |  June 30th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

  29. neocon | June 30th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

  Better than being a middle aged white guy whose not happy in his job, his marriage or with what he’s accomplished after so many years.

  That’s an example of “witty repartee.”

• 33. Pain  |  June 30th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

  Short and brutal those human lives . . .

  Hard work is the path to riches . . .

  The key to success in America is homeownership . . .

  “The liberated Iraqis will greet us with flowers.”

• 34. FmrMarine  |  June 30th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

  putz nyj

  >>>Hey bruddah you went there I have one rule I will not be threatened by poor white trash.>>>

  Actually putz it was no threat….
  it was in response to an article YOU posted threatening people who had e-mailed you with a baseball bat, i just responded to your infantile vile foulmouthed rant, with insight and humor.

  Old man? numerically sure 62
  physically.?….if we met you may rethink that, if you didnt you would have a lot of splaining to do at your local pub.

  Poor trash? not even maybe…..of course i dont live in Brooklyn like you do…by choice of course.

• 35. neocon  |  June 30th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

  “Better than being a middle aged white guy whose not happy in his job, his marriage or with what he’s accomplished after so many years.” - Frederick

  Is that anyway to talk about your father?

  peace, neocon

• 36. James  |  June 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

  Regarding the comment by Upton Sinclair (by the way, I loved your book “Oil!” and highly recommend it to the folks on this blog!) about McCain not paying his property taxes because he put the property in a trust owned by his wife, that’s fairly common among high income earners. It’s called a “Section 617(b) Anticular Redux Tax Incentive Plan,” and it’s only available to those with gross incomes in excess of $500,000. The theory is that people in that class shouldn’t have to shoulder local property tax burdens, like those earning well below the $500,000 threshold, since they’re pouring much more into the economy than lower income people. An example would be that for every Tahoe truck the average Phoenix soccer mom fills up for $125, Mrs. McCain is filling three of them each week for the various assistants she has on her staff, and spending three times what the soccer mom has spent.
  The rule was enacted around the time that the banking rules were changed to allow hedge fund managers to pay a top rate of 15% on their income, as opposed to the 35% top income tax rate paid by other people, because their income would be reclassified as “deferred interest.”
  I benefit from these types of rules because I’m a hedge fund manager and I have a number of properties I’ve put in an Anticular trust. Do I feel bad that I pay less in taxes on my income last year of $12.8 Million than someone making $40,000 a year and supporting a family? Sure. Do I feel a little bad that I don’t have to pay property taxes? Yes.
  But the truth is, I don’t care about the social issues many of you people care about. I couldn’t care less if one candidate wears a flag pin and another does not. I don’t care about “family values,” which I think is actually a funny campaign issue since the party whose candidate espouses them dumped his wife when she shrank an inch or two!
  So if the middle class is satisfied paying higher taxes and paying higher gas prices (on that note, if many of you were truly as patriotic as you claim to be, you’d go out and buy some of these big SUVs and support our domestic auto manufacturers) in exchange for getting some satisfaction on these rather vague social issues, I’m all for it.
  Because economically, I, not you, ultimately benefit.

• 37. David B. Schmidt  |  June 30th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

  I see the normal trolls are out passing along the latest talking points like Upton and the “didn’t pay his taxes…” meme. They are Mrs. McCain’s properties and according to Newsweek we find that the reason for the non-payment of property taxes by Cindy McCain is misdirected mail.

  Or Fredrick with the supposed ass whooping the Republicans took in the ‘06 mid-terms. Proof positive that Fredrick doesn’t know much about politics and elections. Even with the bogus “blue-dog Democrats” the Republicans held more than the normal losses for a second term majority.

  Just to help Fredrick over the edge–he then mentions Google who has frozen, shut down and otherwise lock out every non-Obama blog. What makes you think that liberal bastion would give this site the time of day?

  BTW, remember someone chirping in about “swift-boating.” Don’t think anyone has claimed that million dollar prize to prove the Swiftboaters wrong.

  And wasn’t it just 4 years ago that being a brown water captain with 3 bogus medals and tons of proven lies was perfect for POTUS. Now a real hero is not good enough? Please.

• 38. FmrMarine  |  June 30th, 2008 at 5:51 pm

  here is one for BO’s operatives

  http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_shakir_cant_read.html

• 39. James  |  June 30th, 2008 at 6:58 pm

  Mr. Schmidt:

  Just keep thinking what you’re thinking. Remember - it’s all about morals, and not about economics. Even though the McCain policies most likely won’t benefit you as much economically as they will me, that’s a small price for you to pay to keep activist judges off the bench and to get a little closer to prayer in school. And to keep those homos in California from being able to marry!
  In other words, I’ll support your morals if you’ll support my economics.
  Deal?

• 40. Kahn  |  June 30th, 2008 at 6:59 pm

  Countrywide and Dodd

  http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121332396326070639.html

  Liberals, should I hold my breath for your outrage?

• 41. Danish Artist  |  June 30th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

  As usual the hell’s minions from the brimstone begin with their personal attacks will contributing nothing of significance. Pain was going to put into context but, like a “computer” he just simple regurgitated the same ideas with just more verbage. In short, the article states more involvement from the private sector with less control of the government, which still means that the total government system was a failure.

  Context? Hardly. But then again, he is just a gumdrop memory computer regurgitating what it is programmed.

  Freddie, hell’s jounalist wannabe, rambles on about nothing. Ducking and dodging subject at hand and attacking everyone who dares stray from his brimstone talking points.

  Do yourselves a favor, go back to your flat, get high, have a few pints and forget your embarrassing foray into the real world.

• 42. neocon  |  June 30th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

  James,

  Enough with the narcissism, none of us care about you.

  have a nice day
  peace, neocon

• 43. Ricorun  |  June 30th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

  Danish, I think it would be fair to say that the US health care system has been described by many as “in crisis”. In fact, both presidential candidates have described it as such. So it’s not like just Canada has a health care crisis. We have one too. That being said though, it would be unwise to replace ours with theirs.

  But the fact remains there are too many people in this country — 47 million — who have no health insurance, either because they can’t afford it or they simply can’t get it because of an existing condition. Something has to be done about that, wouldn’t you agree?

  The idea of universal health care is an attractive one. The idea of socialized medicine is not. So the question is can the first be attained (or at least closely approached) while avoiding the second as much as possible. Anyway, I found this article was pretty good at providing a comparison between McCain’s and Obama’s ideas that was both brief and reasonably fair. And I suspect we’re going to be hearing much more about both approaches in the coming months.

• 44. Casper  |  June 30th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

  Rico,
  I would like your email address if you still care to provide it.

• 45. Ricorun  |  June 30th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

  richardlambert80@netzero.com

• 46. David B. Schmidt  |  June 30th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

  James,

  I have no idea where you get your impression of me from; however, I will let you know it is way off base. Personally, I do not have a dog in this fight but will not let blatant slander to go unanswered.

  I have no children so why would I care about prayer in school? My immediate supervisor, and my friend, is a homosexual–so why do I care what SF does with the exception that marriage is done by the church whereas civil unions (with the same benefits) could be administered by the state. You know–separation and all.

  I do not believe Kerry was “swift boated” in the negative sense and with consideration that Sen. Obama’s biggest claim to fame is community organizer in a failed neighborhood–I see nothing wrong with wanting to know everything about a candidate for POTUS.

  Personally, I have written the McCain campaign about my beliefs and some of his stances as I am well-prepared and protected myself from what I believe an Obama presidency would do. Just image Carter being topped on his own misery index. I am still not positive I could bring myself to vote for McCain; however, I never never missed a vote in 30+ years.

  As for finances and who will profit more–I certainly hope you do well as I have done but money isn’t everything. I do well and help others as I can–certainly wouldn’t mind more but I figure I am doing well as far as morals and financial goes — so in this case you can support yourself because I don’t agree with some of your accusations.

• 47. Pain  |  July 1st, 2008 at 11:29 am

  41. Danish Artist | June 30th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

  No engagement just personal attacks. Sad.

• 48. Danish Artist  |  July 1st, 2008 at 12:12 pm

  Pain the “Hell’s computer”, notice I did not start with the personal attacks you and Freddie can win the prize for that one.

  While I did not start it, I tend to finish it.

  Neocon,

  “Since I was murdered by my husband who fired four bullets into my head after hitting me head on with his prize Electra 225 into my mostly plastic and engine Toyota Camry there would be many that would think I would be very pro gun ban. Well that’s not the case the right to keep and bear arms is a deeply solid……”

  Now is this Freddie writing that his husband killed him or was he the killer?

• 49. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 1st, 2008 at 3:13 pm

  48. Danish Artist | July 1st, 2008 at 12:12 pm

  Just vote for McCain so I can TiVo the news of the great collapse of America. Who needs al Qaeda when you pious idiots will do yourselves in?

  You’re lucky that Liberals AREN’T fascists.

• 50. Gabrielle Deroscheres  |  July 1st, 2008 at 4:08 pm

  Here’s a number to keep in mind also: 10587.

  That was the level of the Dow Jones Industrial Average on the day George W Bush took office in 2001. The DJIA is less than 800 points from that level at its close today.

  At the same time at in June of 2000 the DJIA rested at 10447 up 7434 points from the day William Jefferson Clinton took office.

• 51. congressive  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 2:29 pm

  I’m so glad the Conservatives and McCain are finally coming to their senses and are planning to nationalize “our” oil companies. So when Exxon drills our outer shelf, they will NOT be able to sell the oil to the highest bidder, but according to McCain, MUST sell it to us.

  Without McCain’s nationalization plan, Exxon and all other oil companies, will simply sell Florida, California and ANWR’s oil to China. I am SURE no conservative would want that, for Florida’s pristine coastline and tourism industry to be devastated by even the smallest spill simply to benefit the highest bidder, i.e. China.

  “Our” oil is “ours”, right? It’s not the property of Mobil, Arco or any corporation to do with as it sees fit, right? “Our” oil will reduce “our” gas prices and not China’s, right?

  The conservatives have abandoned the free market system, and will rightly keep “our” oil to “ourselves.”

  /snark

• 52. Jack&hellip  |  September 3rd, 2008 at 3:46 pm

  Deliver Flowers To Hospital

  Nice Post.