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• 1. OhioOrrin  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 1:53 pm

  …providing evidence that the embryo or fetus is “whole, separate, unique and living.”

  like the thousands & thouosands of embryos adjudicated as private property & destroyed in fertility clinics every year?

  one cannot have it both ways.

• 2. Fernando  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 1:56 pm

  Good to know some people still have the decency to defend life.

  Other than that, I think you misspelt “cojones” in your last line.

  P.S.: Go McCain!!

• 3. jayhay  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 2:16 pm

  The funny thing is, you guys keep electing people that pander to your anti-choice views, but they never do squat about it. You been used at the polls for years, and you just sit back and take it. They will never do more than talk about this issue of yours, and you’ll keep lapping it up and voting for them. You never, ever hold them accountable…

• 4. SEW  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 2:34 pm

  heyjay, we don’t vote Democrat.

• 5. Sarah Bloch  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 pm

  Now that is really something. How about putting something similar with a picture of a starving Darfurian child over your thermostat? Maybe the same thing needs to be on the back of every SUV and in a heads up display every time you start it? Or each time you choose beef steak over fish or free range chicken? That large house with all the carpet how about a wall panel that shows the actual suffering of “the troops” who are fighting so you can sit in comfort by your own explanations?

  I agree that life is precious but I also think that personal medical freedom and the liberty to women that that offers is a bit more important than the religious values of anyone. In a secular nation your religious values have no business near my body.

  That post is the truth only if you are a hypocrite that would have a changez d’ avis the instant his or her lifestyle was threatened by a mistress getting pregnant or the next door neighbor’s 15 year old daughter.

• 6. Pain  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 3:24 pm

  5. Sarah Bloch | July 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 pm

  South Dakota again? All you really need to know about the GOP mentality on sex, religion and women’s rights in South Dakota can be found, here.

• 7. Danish Artist  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  The blockheads form the daily brimstone as usual turn this into an anti-religious argument.

  Abortion is not a religious issue. It is a life issue. You may as well say:

  “I agree that life is precious but I also think that personal medical freedom and the liberty to women that that offers is a bit more important than the life inside me. In a secular nation your religious values have no business near my body.”

  Of course religious organizations may lead the charge to protect all life, but abortion is not solely a religious issue. But I’m sure you, brimstone idiots will continue to make it and everything else a religious issue.

  It is time to bring the abortion argument into the 21st century. And Sarah, do not bring up your fictional history of your double abortion, fighting at Gettysburg, etc. etc.

  Sarah Bloch, was born in Duchess County, New York in 1844. At the age of 13 she ran away from home after disovering she was pregnant and her mother told her that because she had been in sin a boy she was going to Hell. Sarah was eventually found on the side of the road near what is now West Milford, Pennsylvania by Gretchen Beecher a midwife and her husband Doctor Robert Beecher. Sarah Bloch reveals personal details about her life below in a response to Mark Noonan’s BlogsforVictory post where the Catholic Church comes out against all forms of torture. The USCCB report on torture can be read here. What she has left out is that she was a soldier in the Union army and at the ripe old age of 17 fought at Gettysburg. She was wounded twice and finshed her time in army as a nurse in Vicksburg, MS. An advocate for the rights of all citizens of the Hellac Empire Ms. Bloch remains one of the great voices for freedom and liberty in America well over 100 Terran years after her death.–Editor-in-Chief.]

  From her post in the Catholic View on Torture thread post #2:

  “The whole abortion issue makes me wonder Noonan but of course your private life is private. From this point on mine isn’t I had two in my lifetime one as a teen that was too young even in those days when I lived to have a child at 13 when it was common for women of that age to be married and again at 27 as the product of a rape. You can feel free to call me a liberal baby killer but I made my choices and I stand by them and I don’t feel any sort of racial or religious remorse because they were decisions I had to make . They cost me my family and many of my friends and the last even cost me my marriage but to this day and many, many days have passed since then I still honor the midwife who was there both time with skill and attention in an age when abortion wasn’t legal because of pious men who would panic if confronted with a product of their own infidelity and could not find a toilet down which to flush their own bloody indiscretions.”

  Pain it is time you upgrade your operating system, try Vista.

• 8. Magnum Serpentine  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 4:44 pm

  Hopefully when a Democratic is in the office of President, this judicial activism will end. The South Dakota decision is pure judicial activism.

• 9. Pain  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm

  7. Danish Artist | July 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  Not only is it a religious issue it is what separates Constantinian Christians [ politicized conservative Catholics, Pentecostals, Fundamentalists, Southern Baptists and American Calvinists], who are authoritarians who think it is their duty to rule from a self conceived moral pedestal, from people who hold a broader view of Faith and Spirituality. Some may be Deists, others Wiccans others may even worship the Fates but all are ethical beings that have not had their minds mercilessly clouded with an indoctrination that obsesses about the acts and results of sex when both were put in the Universe for the pleasurable benefit and expansion of all sentient creatures.

  Mock Us all you wish but you will never live long enough to see a woman’s right to choose to terminate a preganancy made illegal because it is a right that will never be taken away. While the Right Wing has this as their chief issue you might as well do as you are doing and make millions by beating your heads against a brick wall.

• 10. Ricorun  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 5:00 pm

  DA, in separate comments: Abortion is not a religious issue. It is a life issue. And then…

  It is time to bring the abortion argument into the 21st century.

  I agree. You start.

  Although if you are who I think you are, my guess is… you won’t, because your opinion is far too nuanced to withstand the onslaught of fellow “conservatives” (as if that was a monolithic concept). Of course if I’m wrong, go for it.

• 11. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 5:11 pm

  7. Danish Artist | July 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  What no comment on your brother in salvation pro life Republican and stand up Christian guy Ted Klaudt who co sponsored the parental notification of a minor’s abortion bill and the child molestation bills in the SD legislature? No comment DA because he was convicted of molesting his two foster daughters. This is what the world sees when you guys open your mouths about “morality.” They see lying filth like Ted Klaudt who was active in his church and was a defender of the Culture of Life who molested two young girls while on the people’s payroll. But none of that matters right because whenever something like that happens they’ve “fallen” from the path? You never give it any thought that these sorts of people are drawn to you because you reject so much of what being a Human Being is in the hope that you might get to tell someone else what to do.

  Go right ahead call me anything you want but this is on topic because this is nothing but emotional pandering by the religion for profit wing of the GOP. A con game run by men who are perverts like Ted Klaudt who is now serving 44 years in prison and women who are secret whores. Why doesn’t your message of religion as a political foundation grab everyone in the USA by the cojones and make them nod in assent that your way is the true path? Simple, it’s the hypocrisy stupid!

• 12. neocon  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 5:41 pm

  Frederick darling,

  Once again you confuse issues, not a suprprise though. Religion is not a sole reflection of the men that practice it.

  You are quick to defend Islamic radicals inferring that their actions do not represent the faith of Islam. So how is Klaudt now the symbol of Christianity?

  Why are liberals so opposed to trying to raise the moral bar of society? On one hand, I believe women need that choice on many occassions, and on the other hand, society has a responsibility to try and discourage this abhorent practice. I don’t see the downside in that.

  I do find it amusing though that Freddy was all ready for the insults to come his way. With the exception of a few, this site is not like your pedestrian venture, Frederick. We actually find vulgarity to be quite juvenile.

  have a hellac day
  peace, neocon

• 13. js  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 6:12 pm

  reality states that abortion results in the murder of a living human being…..even if the courts refuse to believe it….that fact will never change

• 14. Danish Artist  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 7:30 pm

  Freddie,

  From Abortion to child molestation. Can’t seem to stay on topic. 1) He’s not my brother. 2) You’re wasting your time with your unending religious attacks and assume that I am some religious nut. But then again, you thump your “hell’s bible” day in and day out.

  By moving this issue into the 21st century is recognizing life for what it is.

  When liberals scream for the right of abortion stating that it is not life and at the same time scream the salmon spawning grounds or white owls nests are in trouble because of urban sprawl. I mean we are talking about caviar and breakfast. There is a problem. Liberals will fight for fish and owl embryos but not human embryos, when they are an inconvenience.

  Truly amazing that liberals still have a dark age view on abortion.

• 15. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 9:05 pm

  14. Danish Artist | July 2nd, 2008 at 7:30 pm

  Hey man Ted Klaudt was a pro life Republican politician and was one of the champions of several of the acts that have been tried by the right wing in South Dakota to make abortion illegal. There is one Planned Parenthood in the entire state and that to the anti-civil liberties crowd is one too many.

  I’ll make a deal with you if you’ll agree that any mother who is considering an abortion can have the child taken care of by the public dole until he or she turns 21 totally free at a Middle Class standard of living I’ll be delighted to become pro life. Until the wingnuts give the born the same respect as the unborn your side will never win this argument because there are sadly not enough “true believers” in the 304 MM Souls to get your Old testament rules made into laws in enough states to make it impossible for a woman to get an abortion somewhere. So good luck with that good fight. hey if you really wanted to slow down the number of abortions why not stand for actually teaching children how their bodies work? How and the right be against sex education and yet pro life? No unwanted pregnancies no abortions doesn’t that make sense?

  No DA it’s you that have a Dark Ages view on everything from economics, to race, to health care the whole shooting match is about what your religion dictates is the right thing to do. It’s a darn good thing no one has found a scroll that said, “go jump off a cliff and you will fly to Paradise.” Wait a minute . . .

• 16. neocon  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm

  Frederick (you know the rest),

  I gotta give you props. You clearly revealed new level of misunderstanding in post 15 that few are capable of.

  Your perception of the average Christian is so pathetically warped that it exposes a complete lack of interest in even wanting to know the truth. Also the GOP strongly supports sex ed in schools. In fact, it’s the GOP that would like to expand that curriculum to include abstinence. But the left wants to keep the course study restricted. Re: abortion, there are many conservative including myself that support choice in the event of rape, incest, or a “real” life threatening scenario, outside of that it is a practice that needs to be strongly discouraged.

  But back to your post, so are you saying that if each and every child was guaranteed financial support through their 18th birthday, you’d support criminalizing abortion?

  So that begs the question: To what degree do you hold the father responsible? Any?

  Or the mother? Any personable responsibility there?

  Have a hellac day
  peace, neocon

• 17. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 pm

  16. neocon | July 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm

  21 years of age not 18. And yes why not criminalize it, I mean really criminalize it as in it would be a murder for hire and let’s bring Sparky back for the breeders that kill America’s future and see what happens? No skin off my nose.

  I think there would be fewer abortions and a lot more young marriages. Isn’t that what this is all about anyway the coming balance of the races around 2040 if things stay exactly how they are right now? Since we’re on the topic can I ask you a question about the racial underpinnings of why you wingnuts hate Liberalism and in that I mean that progressive leaning white women tend to have no children or fewer children than conservative women despite the fact that they cannot really afford them?

  Do you think it is a better thing to do morally to have a child and bring it into poverty and nearly ensure it might become a drug addict or a criminal than to take care of it with federal funds to at least give he or she a chance to be a productive citizen?

• 18. Tractatus  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  Also the GOP strongly supports sex ed in schools. In fact, it’s the GOP that would like to expand that curriculum to include abstinence. But the left wants to keep the course study restricted

  You don’t honestly believe that, do you?

  If, in fact, you do…wrong. The GOP has pushed for abstinence-ONLY “education”–which has been a miserable failure when implemented, by the way–under the argument that merely telling students about condoms and safe sex practices will just encourage them to go out and have sex, whereas if you simply tell them not to do it…problem solved.

  “The left” wants to keep the course study focused on things that actually work and have been proven to work. Why the GOP has a problem with that is anybody’s guess.

• 19. neocon  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  Frederick,

  Focus. I know that your blood is boiling right now (no pun intended) at the perceived indignant white christian lecturing you on morality, but that’s just not the case.

  I asked a simple question. To what degree do you hold the father accountable?

  But after this latest post, I have to ask: Do you deem all children the financial responsibility of the parents, or the government?

  I also need to ask if you have ever heard of the many hundreds of programs available for those less fortunate and remind you that over $360 billion dollars was spent on domestic entitlement and welfare programs in 2007 which is the most ever in a single year and doesn’t exactly support the screed of Bush draconian economic policies.

  And “racial underpinnings”?????

  WTF, where did that come from?

  have a paranoid day
  peace, neocon

• 20. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 pm

  19. neocon | July 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  I hold the father fully responsible for his duty both economically and as a father to a child. But in any case when a mother wants to not have a child and the state mandates that abortion is not allowed and adoption is not likely then that child should be raised to the age of 21 by the largesse of the state. Period. Yep biological father’s should pitch in too and pay child support so it may elevate a poor child to Middle Class and the government can give him or her the best life possible.

  The taxpayers who are anti-abortion should open their wallets gladly I’d think even if it was a multimillionaire’s daughter that was the mother because what difference would it make you are saving a life from that dark abyss of abortion.

  In this scenario all the Chrsitian taxpayers who are pro fetus can go that extra mile and be pro child and pro young adult as well by elveling the economic playing field. Is this just a hot button wedge issue or do you care if a kid goes hungry or becomes a meth addict at eight because you don’t think your tax dollars are as important as your talking points?

  Heck I’d give up Universal Health care to see the religious Right ante up like this. That’s two I’ve given up for this neocon, I’d say that was a fine offer.

• 21. js  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 pm

  Thats pretty stupid freddy black.

  If a woman doesnt want to have kids, he should not have sex and get pregnant.

  Killing the kid is not the way to prevent unwanted pregnancy, thats a cheap excuse and a great big lie.

  Abortion is killing a living human being. Any medical doctor you talk to will confirm that his is a scientific fact. Go blow smoke up someone else duff, it doesnt work here.

• 22. Jeremiah  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  “The left” wants to keep the course study focused on things that actually work and have been proven to work.–Tractatus.

  Like what things?

  Like encouraging deviance so they can catch AIDS?

  If I were a betting man, that’s where I’d lay the money down. And to know that the children are in the cross-hairs of such dementia should only further signify to each and every parent what their children are being taught such by their local libtard “teacher”.

  Aaaaand……….In a few more years, people will be wondering why their children are contracting such diseases!

  “Mom, Dad, I’m sick, I need to go see a doctor”

  And the terrifying news comes….

  “Honey!! Wait a minute!! How did you get AIDS (and any number of diseases)?”

  “Mom, Dad, my teacher told me it was “ok” to have sex and fornicate…….Mom, Dad, I’m so sorry I’ve hurt you so badly” …… “It’s ok Son, it’s ok honey, we forgive you……but we’re going to have a serious talk with your teacher and see why they told you this pack of lies.”

  Get with the program people……….Abstinence! It works!!

  And pleaseSTOP murdering the tender little bodies of the unborn babies……You heartless fools!

• 23. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 11:34 pm

  21. js | July 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 pm

  Address the issue. it’s on topic. Would you be willing to use your tax dollars to save fetuses or not? It’s a simple question.

• 24. Pain  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 pm

  22. Jeremiah | July 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  What about Christian children that are never exposed to sex ed and are taught abstinence and at puberty they realize they are gay or lesbian and are confused about their gender preference? Should a child terrified about such an unknown be forced to conform to a straight life?

• 25. Jay Gaultieri  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 pm

  “Abstinence! It works!!”

  No it doesn’t. Vows of chastity break far more often than condoms do, Jerry. Deal with it.

• 26. Jeremiah  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 12:04 am

  24. Pbrain | July 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 pm

  Children being raised in a Christian home live out their lives as ‘normal’ productive, law-abiding citizens.

  Children who do not live up to their God-given normal potential have parents who usually care nothing about their childrens upbringing. Thus, their whole life is siezed by the State to fill their brains with whatever feel necessary, being that the State wants nothing to do with God-fearing wholesome ideals, they teach the children not only that they came from apes, but they teach them how to act like apes, and therefore, you have a child whose brain is chock-full of lies and can’t see the oncoming train. And thus, Sodomy pervades the receptive minds of our youth, and they, then, in not being told the truth are then subject to being deceived and believing the lie that they’ve been told and succumb to that lie–and therefore, Satan has another child, or group of children to the destruction of their life and soul. Make no mistake, children do not just “discover” that they have become a sodomite, no, they are fully aware that they are a sodomite well ahead of that point in time, because it is their CHOICE! To commit sin. My pre-requisite is to tell you here and now, that you will not convince me of the lie that is “Sodomite are born sodomites.” Nope! It’s a lie straight from the pits of hell. Get that straight right now!

  Negotiations have become impossible in this case to do anything about the safety of the children, the intolerant ACLU, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, and American Atheists Association have all blocked any good from entering the school system, for they are intolerant of and hate the Christian worldview.

  Therefore, the negligence lay at the feet of the parents for not paying attention to the curriculum of their child’s local school. Moreso, however, with the people in this Nation who proclaim to be “Christians” who have not fought back and put the ACLU in their place once and for all.

• 27. Jeremiah  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 12:42 am

  Vows of chastity break far more often than condoms do, Jerry.

  Who said? You? Hahahaha!

  That’s just it, Jay, you don’t want any vows…you want to just let them go wild, and rape themselves into all kinds of abnormal disease-ridden behavior.

  Condoms? They are another lie. Again, contraceptives only add to the already number of diseases and abortions, because they place more emphasis on the sexual desire.

  Deal with it.

  I already have…but God has dealt with it long before I have…and He says, ‘Don’t have sex until you are married.’ And ‘Therefore, a man shall leave his father and mother and he shall cling to his wife.’

  It takes a mother and a father, male and female to help Create, and it takes a mother and father male and female to raise with the proper care.

• 28. JustAnotherTaxpayer  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 am

  To all,

  And who will take responsibility for all the unwanted children who are born because their parents don’t care. We see the product of failed parenting every day piling up in our nations prisons. We have a prison population per 100,000 exceeded by no country in the world.
  Is this the plan those of you who oppose abortion have for the children you will not take responsiblity for?
  How christian of you.
  Have a nice day.
  Have a nice day.

• 29. Jeremiah  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 1:48 am

  We see the product of failed parenting every day piling up in our nations prisons. We have a prison population per 100,000 exceeded by no country in the world

  You know why?

  Because with each passing generation that goes by since the ACLU forged what we can call Modern Day Liberalism and then Liberalism in turn helped to forge more anti-Truth programs and such as Americans United for Seperation of Church and State, American Atheists, and they’ve worked to hinder and destroy the Christian message in any way they know how…….I mean, just look, everywhere we turn, we can’t say a thing about Jesus Christ, not one single solitary thing……..and these walls just keep closing in on us. Why?

  People who proclaim to be “Christians” … instead of stopping these organizations the way they’re supposed to do, they just allowed them to do as they please…..and the children….the CHILDREN…….the ChILDREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN are taken and turned into God-hating machines….Devils!

  And as I was saying, after so many generations pass, those children are the very same children who become our Supreme Court Justices, lawyers, teachers…….and our laws change to become more benefiting criminals……no love of God is held in America anymore, thus, the innocent are murdered, not cared for…..getting high on Brain-destroying drugs is the “norm” now, people have no interest in the Lord….all they think about is money, partying, drinking, sex, the sodomites running the streets everywhere speading their hate and misery, and it will get much, Much, MUCH worse….before it gets better, I can assure you.

  What a shame!

  The only thing that will straighten America up at this point, is blood-shed…I’m afraid very much so.

• 30. JustAnotherTaxpayer  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 4:11 am

  Jeremiah,

  And your proclaimed indifference to these children shows how much you love God!
  Socialist conservatives, one answer for all!
  What about federalism?
  What about letting the states decide?
  What, exactly, do you mean by your last line of your post?
  Again how Christian of you?
  Why don’t you stop talking about Christ, and start doing something?

• 31. js  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 am

  23. Fredrick Schwartz

  why do you persist in maintaining your mental midgetry in light of the truth?

  you said “But in any case when a mother wants to not have a child and the state mandates that abortion is not allowed “, basing your entire premise on a LIE

  I pulled the bottom out of your crack house stooge, as you presuppose some dream overcomes reality to assert an invalid point…you are a typical halfwitted lemming running over the cliff….

• 32. js  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 7:35 am

  teaching a child that a condom is the solution to lust is like a buss driver trying to beat the train across the tracks….it might seem like a good idea to those whose moral compass is permanently stuck on “E”, but in reality it only exposes them to risk

  sex is like a drug, the more you use them, the more you want them, its better to teach children to just say no to both until they are smart enough and strong enough to deal with it as adults

• 33. js  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 7:47 am

  hey freddie halfwit

  did you ever think that all that hogwash you put down about adoptions and wallets just might not even approach reality…for one…the majority of women who have accepted risky behavior would have to face reality for a change….it would reduce the instance of STD’s because women would be far less likely to have casual sexual relations, and….they would be far more likely to use a greater level of protection when they did…your immature, halfwitted diatribe is not much more than an idiots guide to stupidity….

  and as you chug on to the epitomy of irrelevance about opening wallets and liberals and conservatives like there was a rash of newborn children because of reclassification of abortion from a civil right (which it isnt) to murder (factually proven by medical science) remember the waste our society has created in the thousands of abortion clinics with high paying medical professionals absorbing a huge amount of disposable income from its victims…

  in reality, taking care of children fills a persons heart with joy….helps young, irresponsible people to grow up and face reality…neither of which is detrimental to society….and on the road to cure the illness called abortion, should we find that the number of orphans increases in this nation, then our citizens would have to adopt less foreing orphans, and opt for orphans right here in this Nation….which is a far greater thing than killing 50 million humans for convenience….

• 34. '08ama  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 7:58 am

  Yeah, abortion is ugly shit.

  But have you seen what illegal WAR does to the bodies of innocent men, women, children, babies and the fetuses of pregnant Iraqi women ?!

• 35. Pain  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 8:00 am

  26. Jeremiah | July 3rd, 2008 at 12:04 am
  24. Pbrain | July 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 pm

  Children being raised in a Christian home live out their lives as ‘normal’ productive, law-abiding citizens.

  Well you went there . . .

  For you Jeremiah I give you Kara Beth Borden and David Ludwig. Not only were they having sex before marriage Kara Beth wanted to be free of her parent’s strict Christian upbringing and convinced her fundamentalist homeschooled boyfriend to blow the Borden’s brains out in front of her and run off west in his car. Of course they did not get far they were arrested in Indiana.

  The Bordens of Litiz, PA had a religious belief like yours Jeremiah that they are immersed in the bible and church in everything that they do even teaching their children. There was no corrupting liberal influence in their lives they were raising their daughter to be what you think every American should raise their child to be a believer first above all else. And yet this girl decided that her boyfriend was more important than her parents.

  And of course you are as likely to say “it is an exception” as you are to say she was “possessed of a demon!” However, Jeremiah the facts remain that this Christian teen aged couple murdered and fornicated and they were raised in “good Christian homes.”

• 36. js  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 8:18 am

  34. ‘08ama

  The only “Illegal war” Ive seen is like what happened in E Timor, and Sudan….History is full of examples of illegal war…like the holocaust….

  what really should be illegal are idiots that use lies to succor simple minded people into opposing a just war

  like you and obama

• 37. js  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 8:20 am

  sorry pain…your post falls into the irrelevant factor again…not much you have posted there has any relationship to reasonable people, the truth, or right and wrong…you confuse simple things to magnify stupid things to make yourself look smart…

  it doesnt work

• 38. Jeremiah  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 am

  What, exactly, do you mean by your last line of your post?

  I can’t do it in myself, thousands of Christians must dedicate themselves, and then go to war with all these unbelieving left-wing organizations.

  That’s what it’s going to take, and at the end of the day….we will say, ‘You’re NOT going to take our rights to pray and read the Bible in school away anymore!

  We are sick and tired of the ACLU AA, AUFSOCAS.

  Of course, it could lead to more blood-shed than I am thinking, but the few who stand I gauruntee will be Christians.

  What else could you do to secure the children a decent place to go to school without the teachers filling their heads with a bunch of idiocy?

  Day by Day, the Christian is losing their freedom. I think we should ask our brothers and sisters from around the world to come and help us fight this thing.

  Regardless….Who wants a peaceful solution? I do. Now….How many of you want a peaceful solution?

  I don’t want war, but American civilization will be a literal Hell if we do not get the Liberal hogwash out of our schools. Period.

• 39. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 12:01 pm

  33. js | July 3rd, 2008 at 7:47 am

  So you wouldn’t spend your tax dollars to raise a child saved from “the abortion mill?” OK at least you’re honest js. Pro-life for you only means as long as it doesn’t cost you anything. I understand.

  You seem to have a “make them pay for fornicating” streak in you. Southern Baptist by any chance?

• 40. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 pm

  30. JustAnotherTaxpayer | July 3rd, 2008 at 4:11 am

  You know what jeremiah means JAT he means killing all the non believers in America so he can have all the sinful crap he wants as an anointed one.
  Jeremiah he who believes in a Messiah of Love advocates killing and therefore is the greatest hypocrite here.

  He’d have slaves and more than one wife and all the wine he could drink in Praise of his Deity because the Olde Testament says so! that’s why fundies like Jerry boy love the Olde Testament because they get to bend the rules away from loving compassion and have it their way, women barefoot and pregnant, minorities in bondage [again], homosexuals in ovens and hanging from the gallows and their bank accounts overflowing with gold.

  As I have said before I cannot wait until he gets to Hell and gets what’s coming to him. Sodomites? Jeremiah when you get here you’ll beg for today to be sodomy day. But I can wait I hope the crazy religious fanatic lives a good long life in a Liberals USA that drives him stark raving mad.

• 41. Sarah Bloch  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 pm

  36. js | July 3rd, 2008 at 8:18 am

  Just how js? I’m not talking about liberating Iraq that’s fine if you choose to look at that as the purpose of the war but how have Americans benefirtted from this war you love so much? Would you be so suportive if the casualty rate went up ten fold tomorrow and stayed that way until a draft had to be called for? Even better would you have supported a draft in 2002? Hypotheticals yes, but you have to admit it has been a rather easy for war for you to stay behind because as much as a “tet” was expected it never came.

  There are sill over 150K troops in Iraq and the silence and rarity of suicide attacks is deafening. the problem with Bush dead enders is like the economy and potential variable the Dow, the price of oil the Iraq war with casualty figures and suicide bombings can change from day to day. yet in desperation for proof that you were ‘right all along” any lull in violence will be trumpeted as Proof that while things are getting better it is still not time for the Iraqis to fly on their own. This you know because the only beneficiaries from this forweign policy fiasco are BP. Shell, Exxon, Chevron and Aramco along with the iranian government which has a never ending ally in the Shi’a government of Iraq which your nation put their by inavidng a country that did not ask for help for the first time in its history.

  Even the corrupt mature of the Central American wars post 1898 were in response to cries fro help from the ruling elites in Colombia and Nicaragua on behalf of United Fruit. Yes this is an illegal war and yes President Bush should be tried and found guilty of war crimes and sentenced to be executed for them. But of course America is quick to see to it that another nation’s sovereign leader can be executed but never can their even be indicted by the ICC.

• 42. Sarah Bloch  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 1:10 pm

  38. Jeremiah | July 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 am

  All you are calling for is for there to be a lot of arrested and dead religious fanatics in the streets. Anyone who would follow that path would become yet another dead idiot like David koresh and those weak minded souls who followed him here to Hell.

• 43. Jeremiah  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm

  Fredrick & Sarah,

  Real quick…

  NO!

  Just those militant groups who are taking our freedoms away…

  ACLU, AUFSOCAS, AA.

  With Christians in great numbers and those who want to fight for good, the pressure would be mounted so great that no amount of resistance you and Satan’s army could put forth with suffice to withstand such a force. Any Christian who would be imprisoned would be released with a short time period.

  If you don’t think this is what it’s coming to…

  ‘You’ll see!’

• 44. FmrMarine  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm

  sarablech;

  >>>>Yes this is an illegal war and yes President Bush should be tried and found guilty of war crimes and sentenced to be executed for them. But of course America is quick to see to it that another nation’s sovereign leader can be executed but never can their even be indicted by the ICC.>>>

  You are TOTALLY INSANE !

  Isnt Great Briton in Iraq?
  Isnt France in Iraq?
  Isnt Germany in Iraq?
  Isnt Australia In Iraq?

  Oh yeah “its Bushes war”
  keep repeating it, while masturbating on the toilet, that seems how you libtard nutcases arrive at your deluded conclusions.

• 45. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 7:12 pm

  43. Jeremiah | July 3rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm

  You don’t have and never will have enough people who are willing to fight and die to have their lives be more boring than they are now.

• 46. Sarah Bloch  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 7:18 pm

  44. FmrMarine | July 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm

  Isnt Great Briton in Iraq? Yes
  Isnt France in Iraq? No
  Isnt Germany in Iraq? No
  Isnt Australia In Iraq? Almost no.

  More reading and less insulting would do you good.

• 47. JustAnotherTaxpayer  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 7:25 pm

  Sarah,

  Don’t be put off by fmr marine. Interesting set fo opinons here. Join the mix.

• 48. Some Assembly Required  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 8:37 pm

  46. Sarah Bloch | July 3rd, 2008 at 7:18 pm

  Don’t forget Mongolia did send and army of monkeys! Think their plan was to spread AIDS maybe?

  I think someone should put the department of homeland security onto Jeremiah. He’s really starting to come off as one of those bell tower nut jobs or postal workers who helped coin the phrase “Going Postal”. I can honestly see him just going off one day like Micheal Douglas in Falling Down. Only instead of ghetto punks, it would be directed towards Steve the ambiguously gay intern in the cubicle 3 rows down and one row to the left.

• 49. Jeremiah  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 9:57 pm

  Fredrick,

  Well, then, if that’s the case, the people who call themselves Christians if they aren’t willing to fight for what they believe in, then only option they have is to pray sincerely for an answer.

  God will answer prayer, but some times He expects us to do a little work and prove to Him that we truly care about our country.

  You see, the person who acts like they are sincere but go on doing the things that are displeasing to God, God knows, because they say they “love Him” but they don’t, because they aren’t willing to work and make a difference and therefore, the country become corrupted. So what? If they are willing to fight, then they shouldn’t grumble or complain when their child is put in prison for murdering someone or has contracted AIDS. God expects us to pay attention to the lives of our children and what their children are being taught, so as not to confuse the State for teaching their children something “good” because it’s not, of course many parents are smart and home school their children because they are alert to the dangers that the State run evil school system is capable of doing to their children.

  It’s like right now, here in my neighborhood, their thieves everywhere, they are stealing the ground-wires from the power poles and selling it, the copper wire for money to get life-destroying drugs. Girls 13 and 14 are taking their unborn children to the doctor and the doctor punctures the little babies head and then throws their little bodies into a furnace. A young man in Illinois went on a murdereing spree and murdered 8 people…he should be hanged. The local bars are packed every night, fights break out and the police have to take control. Husbands and Wives are divorcing, Sodomites are “marrying”, AIDS is prevalent, the local jails and prisons are full. And….

  Then the people wonder “why?”

  Why? Because there’s no justice system, because you’ve neglected God, because Christians have not stood up for Biblical values, because the people have elected first rate crack-pot representatives and Judges.

  You know, it really amazes me, we can go thousands of miles away across the open waters to a distant land where we have enemies who want to kill us and they would if given the chance, but we completely ignore the deadly enemies we have here at home, who are they?

  Americans United for Separation of Church and State, American Atheists Association, ACLU also knows as the Anti Christian Lawyers Union, NAMBLA North American Man Boy Love Association which filled with pedophiles, National Organization for Women which teaches women to become whores and sodomites, and GLBT.

  Every dime of money that these organizations should be cut-off, the government should sieze every asset these organizations have, close their doors and destroy their buildings.

  I’m not kidding you, these organizations are what fuel the hatred and division in this nation. Their monies are fueling the destruction of the minds of our children in our schools. They are who’s taking our freedom to speak away. There will never be any progress made in this country as long as we have such organizations around, so we should be doing everything in our power to shut them DOWN!!!!!!!

  For whatever purpose God put me here on this earth for that is one of my sole goals if any at all is to put these Dividing hatemongers completely out of this country. They’ve been a boil on the Christians neck for long enough.

  But like I said, I can’t do it by myself, I need helpers, people who are willing to leave everything behind and fight for mine’s and their’s freedom.

  And I promise you, if you will do this, God will bless you, and thus, we won’t have to labor to feed the prisoner anymore, because there will be no need for prisons.

  Have a great 4th of July weekend everybody!
  :)

• 50. Jeremiah  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 pm

  Correction: Eighth line - So what? If they are willing Should be: If they aren’t.

  Good bye!
  :)

• 51. Fredrick Schwartz  |  July 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 pm

  You, jeremiah are an illiterate ass.

• 52. js  |  July 4th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

  39. Fredrick Schwartz

  you sir are fine example for america to insure that thier children are safe from the likes of you and your twisted mind…not much you have posted is worth the bandwidth here so you are sumarilly dismissed as a waste of time….

  41. Sarah Bloch

  anyone who uses words like you do, knowing not what they mean, surely comes from lemming central, no?…and to twist my words into something i didnt not say and expect me to give you a civil reply is lidicrious…so…the essence of what you deserve…its obvious that you are not much higher than the stooges that loiter on this blog…the remnance of ignorance and human waste…if you certainly believe the lies that the war in iraq is unjust….and truely…you describe the love of war as if you yourself were aflicted by such hated….when you accuse another if your disdain…but truely…the cries of the babes reached to heaven…and God himself wept a tear….for the innocent that was slaugtered in iraq while saddam was there…..

  no matter the color or the creed, the iraq war was indeed

  a righteous war

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