Pelosi OK with Impeachment Review
July 12th, 2008 at 12:12am Mark Noonan
So says this Newsmax report:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has dropped a bombshell by reversing course and suggesting that the Judiciary Committee might take up the issue of impeaching President Bush.
Pelosi’s change of heart comes after Rep. Dennis Kucinich moved a “privileged resolution” to force the House to consider whether Bush should be impeached for, according to the Ohio Democrat, lying to Congress and the American people about the reasons for invading Iraq.
Pelosi had previously declared impeachment to be “off the table” before the 2006 election. But she now believes hearings on the impeachment issue are “a distinct possibility,” according to The Nation magazine.
Pelosi told reporters on Thursday: “My expectation is that there will be some review of that in the committee. This is a Judiciary Committee matter, and I believe we will see some attention being paid to it by the Judiciary Committee.”
Rep. John Conyers, the Michigan Democrat who chairs the committee, has said he is reviewing the articles of impeachment Kucinich has proposed. Previously he had felt constrained by the Speaker’s “off the table” comment.
This is either a sop to the kook left - a means of keeping them occupied by smoke and mirrors (they are rather gullible, after all) while Obama shifts right for the fall election…or its a desperate attempt to make people hate President Bush enough to carry Obama over the finish line in November (this would be the case if internal Democratic polling shows that only a tremendously and continuously unpopular Bush gives Obama an edge over McCain). In either case, its a dishonorable thing to do…and, of course, real hearings will never happen, nor will articles of impeachment be passed by the House, because a trial in the Senate would expose that each and every criticism of President Bush vis a vis Iraq is massively overstated, at best, or an outright lie, at worst. The last thing Democrats want is a full airing of the Iraq issue prior to the November election.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Congress, Corruption, Democrats, Kook Left, President Bush, War on Terror
37 Comments
1. Magnum Serpentine | July 12th, 2008 at 1:49 am
Its about time…
The yellow spineless demo-publicans have grown a spine and are now seriously considering doing the will of the people and impeach george. This should had happened in 2006
2. JustAnotherTaxpayer | July 12th, 2008 at 1:58 am
Deleted - off topic.
3. Deejah Thoris | July 12th, 2008 at 5:26 am
“In either case, its a dishonorable thing to do…and, of course, real hearings will never happen, nor will articles of impeachment be passed by the House, because a trial in the Senate would expose that each and every criticism of President Bush vis a vis Iraq is massively overstated, at best, or an outright lie, at worst. The last thing Democrats want is a full airing of the Iraq issue prior to the November election.”
Oh really?
Of the 3 presidents in modern times who deserved to be Impeached and tried by the Senate, Nixon, Clinton and Bush 43 which one do you think the average person who was eligible to vote for all 3 of those men feels committed the most crimes?
The ICC too is going after sitting leaders of countries that haven’t signed the Rome Convention so that might figure into Madame Speaker’s thinking.
4. Danish Artist | July 12th, 2008 at 6:25 am
Pelosi and the libs are desperate!
The libs desperately need America to hate Bush and somehow she must prop up hers and Reid’s PATHETIC 9% approval rating.
One of the reasons for the historic low, as cited by the polls - no impeachment articles.
Wow, going back on a campaign promise (I think, there were so many), but still has yet to complete the promise of “Common sense legislation for cheaper oil/gas”.
Liberals, putting party, politics and special interests above the needs of the PEOPLE.
5. Jeremiah | July 12th, 2008 at 6:44 am
DA,
Something isn’t it…liberals would no platform without hate!
Sad.
6. Magnum Serpentine | July 12th, 2008 at 6:55 am
DA
A gallop poll shows that the citizens of this nation prefer the Democratic party controlling the congress 54% as opposed to the republic party at 34%.
So its apparent that the 9 percent is directed at the republic party.
7. Magnum Serpentine | July 12th, 2008 at 6:57 am
DA
Me again, you say the Democratic leadership is putting politics ahead of what the people want.
The problem with that is that the people want impeachment. Its one of the reasons why the Democratic revolution took place in 2006
8. CeCe | July 12th, 2008 at 8:22 am
OT, but just heard that Tony Snow passed away. RIP and God bless his wife and children.
9. neocon | July 12th, 2008 at 8:53 am
“This call for drilling in areas that are protected is a hoax,” Ms. Pelosi said. “It’s an absolute hoax on the part of the Republicans and this Bush administration.”
Apparently though trying to impeach a President with 6 months remaining is sound policy.
This woman could not be any more incompetent and this little grandstanding will not play well come November.
peace, neocon
10. neocon | July 12th, 2008 at 9:07 am
God Bless Tony Snow.
11. neocon | July 12th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Oh there is trouble on the horizon….
More seriously, some Obama supporters worry that the spectacle of their candidate eagerly embracing his old rival, Hillary Clinton, and traveling the country courting big donors at lavish fund-raisers, may have done lasting damage to his image as an arbiter of a new kind of politics. This is a major concern since Obama’s outsider credentials, have, in the past, played a large part in his appeal to moderate, swing voters. In the new poll, McCain leads Obama among independents 41 percent to 34 percent, with 25 percent favoring neither candidate. In June’s NEWSWEEK Poll, Obama bested McCain among independent voters, 48 percent to 36 percent.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/145737
12. James Utah | July 12th, 2008 at 9:22 am
Forget impeachment - try him for War Crimes.
13. Deejah Thoris | July 12th, 2008 at 9:24 am
10. neocon | July 12th, 2008 at 8:53 am
There’s no time clock on executive high crimes and misdemeanors neocon. I need to stock up on popcorn and actually learn how to use this TiVo gadget.
14. Pain | July 12th, 2008 at 9:33 am
12. neocon | July 12th, 2008 at 9:16 am
The polls will show a flux of lead changes close to the MoE until after both conventions when the eventual winner will pull ahead by a margin of roughly 2.33x the MoE. In the end the way Our polling is tracking the election will not be close one way or the other with the winner getting more than 400 electoral votes.
To you neocon every event is a death knell for Obama and his chances at becoming president.
What happened to Reverend Wright, the Michelle Obama Whitey tape, Father Pfleger, Rezko, Hussein, clining to guns and religion, his birth certificate? Are these things as politically valuable now to the GOP as the faltering economy and possible Impeachment of Bush are to the Democratic Party?
15. phnx | July 12th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Personally I hope the Dems go for it. The only ones who are for impeachment are the lunatic fringe of the left. This will further separate them from the rest of the country.
It wil lbe fun watching Obama twist like a pretzel to be on both side of this issue.
“…while this issue diserves consideration, in the interest of the country, peace, global climate change and wirking families around this great country, I urge my colleagues to put this behind them and look to the future so that we can get on with the job of healing the nation, the hemisphere, the world and the universe.”
He will frame himself as the candidate for national reconciliation, like this is some third world african nation.
Good luck with that leftists.
16. Mark Noonan | July 12th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Deejah,
There’s a word for your views here: Kooky.
17. TampaBayRayz-4-evah-don't-mess | July 12th, 2008 at 10:41 am
There was a time for impeachment articles to be brought against President Bush and much of his administration. Try as they might, Representatives Kucinich and Wexler were unable to read articles until just recently. Even Representative Waxman’s inquiries were stymied by Nancy Pelosi at every turn.
If the impeachment of Clinton taught the nation anything, it’s that the criminalization of an opponent’s power is a tool to be used sparingly. I never supported the impeachment of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, although I supported Congessional inquiries into any number of adminstration acts which required further scrutiny. I supported Kucinich and Wexler’s being allowed to read articles of impeachment into the record.
I’ll support — say — Cantor or King’s reading articles of impeachment of President Obama into the record.
Nancy Pelosi doesn’t have the slightest interest in seeing any action taken against the Bush administration. She has been a reliable supporter of theirs on most important issues. Her daughter filmed a hagiography of George W. Bush. This isn’t Barbara Lee or Lynn Woolsey were discussing here. It’s Nancy Pelosi.
She has a series of massive problems on her hands, not the least of which are President Barack Obama and Representative Jane Harman, to say nothing of the Congressional Black and Congression Progressive caucuses.
Harman and Wexler together create massive problems for Pelosi’s continuing as Speaker. Who knows what Obama would want? I do know that it took a hell of a lot of work for Pelosi to get to Harman’s right on war and if Obama wants new leadership — Pelosi, Hoyer and Murtha are just stale! — any coalition to give Obama new House leadership which joins Jane Harman to the CBC and CPC spells the end of the Pelosi era.
Too little. Too late. Too obvious. Disrespectful of an orderly political process, an administration in its final days, as well as disrepectful to principled opposition within her party that could have used her help far earlier in the process.
Nancy Pelosi: go away, go far, far away.
18. Stretchrun | July 12th, 2008 at 11:16 am
It is too late Pelosi, Bush and Cheney are for all practical purposes irrelevant. Unless you and Reid cave yet again to a President with 25% approval and let him invade Iran. Democrats had a lot of hope riding on you back in 2006 and you disappoint at every turn.
Let the Red Cross do the dirty work. Red Cross investigators concluded last year in a secret report that the Central Intelligence Agency’s interrogation methods for high-level Qaeda prisoners constituted torture and could make the Bush administration officials who approved them guilty of war crimes, according to a new book on counterterrorism efforts since 2001.
19. hermie | July 12th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
The Dems couldn’t pass any significant legislation; couldn’t put through their secret plan from 2006 to end the war, lower gas prices from that horrendous $2.50/ gal, and other promises. Yet, they can somehow find time, manpower and money to impeach President Bush.
Is Pelosi THAT afraid of losing her position she has to pull this stunt? watch for 2009, and San Fran Nan losing her Speaker position to a Dem who actually wants to get legislation passed.
20. js | July 12th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
it might backfire in thier faces if they are not careful…by directing congress to a lost leader instead of paying full attention to the financial markets and fuel costs, and the rising costs of food, energy and housing….if a sharp operator were paying attention the GOP could really capitalise on this and nail them to the mat with an unforgiving shot of reality…
21. js | July 12th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
with 9% approval rating…they want to gossip and slander hoping to raise thier popularity….pelosi is a self centered liar….far from the model needed to lead congress…
22. FmrMarine | July 12th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
JS
Just play this at ANY impeachment hearing…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1q9Q0OtJ4g
1.Show them the shipping invoice for 550 TONS of yellow cake taken from Iraq.
2. Actually it was a UN invasion, the U.S. contributed troops to the invasion force as did (the United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, Australia, Poland, and Denmark), 33 provided some number of troops to support the occupation after the invasion was complete.
Did you say OVER for the hearings?
23. FmrMarine | July 12th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Mark;
I say impeach away if you dare!
a good read…….
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/060220
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=EA5DB2F2-C00E-40CC-8A27-5A4F1DCB6691
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/2/230625.shtml
http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/1997/issue4/jv1n4a1.html
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2004/oct/28/20041028-115519-3700r/
http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/russia_friend_or_foe.php
http://www.internet-grocer.net/weapons.htm
http://www.john-loftus.com/111307.htm
24. Magnum Serpentine | July 12th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
JS
54% of the citizens of the nation want the Democratic party to remain in control of the Congress. Only 34% want the republic party in control.
The reason people rate the Congress at 9 percent is because of republic obstructionism. The Citizens say give the Democratic party more seats and gridlock and obstructionism will not happen.
With more seats, the Democratic party can keep the Republic Party from reading text of bills that take 5 hours to read, and stop the republic party from demanding a vote every 30 seconds.
next.
25. Mark Noonan | July 12th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Tampa,
True - if Democrats really wanted this sort of thing, early 2007 was the time to do it. I still think it would have been a catastrophe for the Democratic party to actually have an impeachment trial, but disaster or sublime victory, that boat has already sailed, and now it just looks …. well …. like a whine when it doesn’t look like a cynical political game.
26. Mark Noonan | July 12th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Magnum,
You’d have a better case if, even once, the Democratic party in 2006 had run on impeachment.
27. js | July 12th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
24. Magnum Serpentine
I conducted my own survey last night…seems like every one at the bowling alley though we should tar and feather both pelosi and reid and run them out of washington on a rail….
thats a 100% sure thing…so dont go puking your liberal lemming crybaby excuses to me….
28. js | July 12th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
fmrmarine…the only hearings we need to start is the hearings for treason….
29. Jerry Winters | July 12th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
FmrMarine:
If you really believe the stories in your links, you should change your call name to FmrMentalPatient.
30. Danish Artist | July 13th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Magnum Stupidity,
the 9% is not solely attributed to the Republicans. Living in your fantasy world I see.
There is a poll that a majority of Americans want us to drill here. But I don’t see you advocating for it since you love polls so much.
Congressional ratings have been dropping steadily since the incompetence of Reid and Pelosi has taken hold. It is simple. There is no leadership and the voice of the radical left has contributed to the negative ratings for NOT LEAVING IRAQ AS PROMISED and NO IMPEACHMENT AS PROMISED. Legislation was not even proposed by the Dem leadership. So you can’t blame Republicans. Those reasons were cited in the polling that gave them a historical low approval rating.
The Dems are incompetent and incapable of any sound leadership and those are reflected in the polls. Their platform is a throwback to the 70s.
Impeachment hearings, they think, will satisfy the rabid left and bring their numbers up in the polls and the ballot box.
31. \'08ama | July 13th, 2008 at 3:53 am
I was not aware that George W. Bush lied about having oral sex with a consenting adult.
IMPEACH HIM !!!!!
32. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 13th, 2008 at 8:08 am
15. phnx | July 12th, 2008 at 10:12 am
“Personally I hope the Dems go for it. The only ones who are for impeachment are the lunatic fringe of the left. This will further separate them from the rest of the country.”
Oh yea, the country would certainly hate us for impeaching Bush for his illegal acts. With Bush’s approval rating hovering one point higher than that of Nixon’s a week before his resignation I’d certainly think twice about prosecuting such a “popular” guy. LMAOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
33. js | July 13th, 2008 at 9:13 am
there is that mental midget streak that runs in liberal lemmings again….”Oh yea”….said the lemming gyrating his pelvis to “impeaching Bush for his illegal acts”…..as he runs off the cliff to a certain death….failing to realize that Bush has not actually done anything that would be considered a ‘high crime or misdemeanor”….
34. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 13th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
33. js | July 13th, 2008 at 9:13 am
there is that mental midget streak that runs in liberal lemmings again….”Oh yea”….said the lemming gyrating his pelvis to “impeaching Bush for his illegal acts”…..as he runs off the cliff to a certain death….failing to realize that Bush has not actually done anything that would be considered a ‘high crime or misdemeanor”….
Ahhhhh there is that mental midget blind streak in conservative lemmings again that says whatever a conservative president does is ok because he’s “protecting” America, even if it’s illegal, let’s just hope he moves as fast as he, my party, and our conservative-packed court can to make it legal. Conservative lemmings use the false logic which goes “As a “true” American, and a patriot, I have nothing to worry about, so let my conservative president use my phone company to monitor my calls and the calls of others in this country, it may be illegal, actually most legal analysts say it is, it may breach my right to privacy and may break the law against unlawful search and seizure, but thats ok, because it’s for my own good. So let me sit here in my conservative living room, on my conservative lay-z boy recliner , watching my conservative Fox approved TV news , with one thumb in my mouth and one thumb up my a$$, cause even though I’m a little less free than I was yesterday and I’ll be a little less freer tomorrow than I am today, at least now I’ll feel “safe”. So I’m doing my patriotic duty by turning a blind eye to what my conservative president does. Hmmmmmm ….I wonder if the Mrs. is makin’ steak-ums tonight? ….”
So does that about sum you up JS? Seems like it to me.
35. js | July 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
sniffing glue nietz? sure looks like from the drivel you are posting…so lets see who the mental midget really is…
your accusation of the existence of an impeachable office is basically what this is all about…
document that offense…and if you post a pack pf lemming BS, everyone will see it, right here…so put up or shut up Mr Mental Midget….if you have the balls….
36. js | July 13th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
so i assume from your failure to reply that i was right…and you are a lemming…and did go over the cliff….
its ok folks…nothing to see…just a typical lemming proving why it is ignorant….
37. Andrew Wang | September 29th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Kucinich is simply the best.
George W. Bush’s sentence-by-sentence speaking skills are deteriorating. Apparently, this may be due to a mental illness called “presenile dementia.” Bush may or may not be secretly still drinking heavily. Bush suffers from narcissism and megalomania. Moreover, Bush has been arrested three times. Bush was arrested for disorderly conduct. Bush was arrested for stealing. Bush was also arrested for a serious crime—driving under the influence of alcohol. There are reasons to believe that Bush suffers from a learning disability. Bush’s learning disability would explain a lot of things. All in all, Bush is a severely mentally ill individual. Bush is not fit to be the president of the United States.
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