George Clooney Advising Obama on Foreign Policy?
August 12th, 2008 at 09:05am Mark Noonan
I guess if you know nothing, then its ok to have someone who also knows nothing giving you advice - from the Daily Mail via Hot Air Blog:
George Clooney once famously declared he could never run for public office because he’d ‘slept with too many women, done too many drugs and been to too many parties’.
But now the Hollywood heart-throb has entered the political arena at the highest level – by becoming an unofficial adviser to US Presidential front-runner Barack Obama.
Oscar-winner Clooney, 47, is said to be helping the Democratic candidate to polish his image at home and abroad.
But he is also sharing with Obama his strong opinions on Iraq and the Middle East.
A self-admitted philanderer and drug user to advise on polishing an image? Only in modern America would a Presidential candidate get within 10 miles of Clooney…
Sources say the actor has tried to hide the pair’s friendship for fear his Left-wing views and playboy image would hurt the Presidential hopeful’s bid for the White House.
But Democratic Party insiders have revealed that Clooney and Obama regularly send texts and emails to each other and speak by phone at least twice a week.
One said last night: ‘They are extremely close. A number of members of the Hollywood community, including Brad Pitt, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, offered to help raise funds for Barack but it was with George that he struck up this amazing affinity.
‘George has been giving him advice on things such as presentation, public speaking and body language and he also emails him constantly about policy, especially the Middle East.
‘George is pushing him to be more “balanced” on issues such as US relations with Israel.
‘George is pro-Palestinian. And he is also urging Barack to withdraw unconditionally from Iraq if he wins.
‘It’s a very risky relationship. His hope of becoming America’s first black President depends heavily on winning over conservative voters and it would be suicidal for him to be perceived as a tool of a Hollywood Leftie, which is how they regard George.
‘But they text and email each other almost every day and speak on the phone at least a couple of times a week, often more.’
Its not so much Clooney’s leftism (after all, it’d be hard to out-lefty Obama, anyways), but the fact that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s yet another of those Hollywood liberals who latch on to fashionable causes and right now the fashion is to be pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel and, of course, opposed to victory in Iraq. Among the many people I would expect a President to get advice from on foreign policy, Clooney never makes that list - in fact, he wouldn’t make the list of people to advise on the color of the drapes in the Oval Office. Somehow, being an actor doesn’t seem to be the best training for figuring out whether Hamas is a partner for peace or a bloodthirsty terrorist organization. Perhaps Clooney has been doing some studying, but if he has he’s yet to register as someone who has offered his own opinion in a forum where criticism of same is possible. What we don’t need is a star-struck President going along with ill-informed advice simply for fear of offending a glittering pal.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Democrats, Foreign Affairs, Kook Left, War on Terror
69 Comments
1. neocon | August 12th, 2008 at 9:26 am
The drugs and the philandering take a back seat to the mans ignorance. Clooney doesn’t have two reputable brain cells to rub together, but I guess that’s not a prerequisite to counsel the man who has yet to reach the 58th state, while his constituents in PA cling to their guns and Bibles and he seeks world approval to keep our thermostats at 72.
merci beaucoup
neocon
2. CanadianObserver | August 12th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Mark…..”Somehow, being an actor doesn’t seem to be the best training for figuring out whether Hamas is a partner for peace or a bloodthirsty terrorist organization.”
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Perhaps if Clooney became Governor of California he could go on to the White House like that other actor did.
3. js | August 12th, 2008 at 9:43 am
clooney=socialism and liberalism
he compliments obama’s inherent traits….like backing minority islamic sharia in kenya and self defeatist motivations in places like iraq and iran where freedom is raising its head under the threat of islamic jurisprudence…
with folks like those…the next great exodus will be from the good ole US of A….all non muslims will need to get out so sheik obama can declair america dar ‘ul Islami
4. SEW | August 12th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Paris Hilton has a much better energy plan than Hussein, I expect Looney will be an equal to Obama but not as good as Paris as energy czar. I would expect conflict if Hilton is included in the “Change” administration. Too much logic for Looney/Obama.
5. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Noonan - didn’t your big hero Ronald Reagan start out as an actor?
anyways, I’m fairly sure Obama gets advise from a great number of diverse people, versus someone like Bush who only surrounds himself with people that agree with him (or people that manipulate him).
next
6. SEW | August 12th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Hussein might be looking for a safe source of white powder from Looney to help him make decisions in the Oval Office. Putin, KGB, Hamas and Ajmadman will have an easy time with Bambi. Like hungry lions and Bambi. Go Bambi.
7. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 11:09 am
You guys are stretching. Why do we never get to talk about the issues? It seems like the only acceptable subjects are personal. Tell me what McCain’s healthcare plan looks like, energy plan etc….and please humor me with some specifics because I honestly don’t have a clue. What does Senior have in mind besides continuing Bush’s TOTALLY failed policies? Enlighten me.
And FmrMarine (if your there). Stop telling everyone you disagree with to drink the cool aid. It’s getting quite old, and at this point you really ought to show us a little more of your vocabulary cause your selling yourself short. Common buddy, use your big words.
Regards,
Rasmus
8. Chuckasaurus | August 12th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Shut up and drink the cool aid Rasmus. LOL
Couldn’t help it.
But seriously, if you Democrats are so interested in a discussion of the issues, why don’t you demand that Obama meet with McCain at (unscripted without teleprompter) town hall meetings, so the world could see a true discussion of the issues by each candidate?
9. SEW | August 12th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Why won’t you cons just let Bambi eat his waffles?
10. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Chuckasaurus,
Town hall meetings are McCain’s preferred venue because he has no clue how to use a teleprompter. McCain also tends to be more funny when he can interact with people, but why should Obama agree to a setup chosen by McCain? Besides that I agree with you. They need to be discussing face to face so that we can get past the Paris, Britney and “the one” BS. McCain vs. Obama just talking about the issues (with a neutral moderator).
11. Danish Artist | August 12th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Assmus,
feel free to go to McCain’s website and enlighten yourself.
Why?
When asked for specifics, leftists usually reply in kind - go to Obama’s website.
It’s not the kool-aid you have to stay away from it the leftist talking points.
Did you think up that Reagan comment all by yourself? Well, if you did not realize that you were comparing apples and oranges (Reagan vs Clooney), then you are consuming the kool-aid and regurgitating the talking points.
Nice try……
12. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Danish Artist,
Why are you calling yourself Danish Artist (just curios that’s all)?
Regarding the Reagan remark, no it was actually your mama that came up with it the last time I saw her.
Cheers,
Assmus
13. Unholy Obamination | August 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
When in the company of these Hollywood elites.
Where is all the tried and true class warfare stuff, the democrats love to haul out, when talking about excess profits and obscene wages. Is Obama some kind of part-time Marxist, that only breaks out the class warfare stuff, when it applies to industries that don’t contribute as much to the DNC.
It seems like Obama’s energy plan calls for some wealth redistribution, oil companies giving 300 million Americans $1000 a piece, this might be some fuzzy math, but the big 5 at 10 billion each, for each quarter, (50 billion a quarter would take a year and a half at this summers oil price to equal the 3 trillion Obama wants to take.
Why don’t we hear Obama calling to trim the fat in Big Pro-Sports, Big Hollywood, Big Porn,
How many average americans would love to play pro sports or act and earn $15-20 an hour, hell, Obama could make a great economic stimulus package by reducing the wages from 60 million a year to $15-20 an hour.
Obama’s energy plan will push prices up higher.
It is a gimmick that will hurt the poor, not help them.
14. OhioOrrin | August 12th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
NOBAMA & NoLooney
http://www.nobama.com/
15. hermie | August 12th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Clooney is like most of the Hollywood ‘elites’. They believe themselves to be more important and smarter than anyone else because their agents, personal assistants, and other hangers-on say so. They are always at the latest party making their pronouncements about ‘BushHitler’, and getting nods from the other ‘elitists’ who all think the same anyway.
This gives Clooney a chance to feel more important and not have to be challenged on his positions. If he had to go face to face against an experienced conservative, he’d be just as effective as Elmer Fudd would be against Bugs Bunny. As an ‘advisor’, Obama will stroke his ego and Clooney will sponsor another Swiss fundraiser, or pony up more bucks to MoveOn or other 527.
Clooney and the other ‘elitists’ have that attitude about Palestinian terrorists because they’ve been stroked by Sultans and Sheiks who invite them for weekends at fabulous resorts, or ‘A’ list parties. By nodding yes and adopting his hosts’ anti-Semite remarks, Clooney and the rest are ensuring that they get invited to the next big shindig in Paris.
16. Nevada Pundit | August 12th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Wow, did any of you dems stop to wonder about the really big difference between Clooney, Reagan, and Schwarzenegger? Let me give you a hint, two of them were elected in a free democracy because the majority of the people understood and liked what the stood for, the other one wasn’t.
17. \'08ama | August 12th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Sue says …
“Hussein might be looking for a safe source of white powder from Looney to help him make decisions in the Oval Office……. ”
so, you’re conceding defeat ?
18. FmrMarine | August 12th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
DA
>>>no it was actually your mama that came up with it the last time I saw her.>>>>
rasmASS should know ALL about this (incest)…it’s common in da hood!
camon BRO tell us all about BO hussein’s drug use, homosexual liaisons, marxist-Afrocentric views, alignment with the nation of islam, rejection of white mother, grandparents, heritage.
Hatred for the Jews.
and oh yes his 1 page resume =
“COMMUNITY ORGANIZER” WTF??
which just means crooked, chicago politician, with an affirmative action position.and
19. FmrMarine | August 12th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
ps rasASS
DO…..DRINK the Kool Aid,
anything more than that YOU wouldnt understand!
you are here to disrupt a conservative site with your nonsense, go hang out with the frogs, nobody gives a flying crap for your drivel!
20. Timothy Horrigan | August 12th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Funny that the liberals should still be in favor of socialism, when the failure of socialism is being broadcast to the world during the Olympics. The games are taking place in primitive facilities which would shame most high schools here in the USA. The eco-extremists are ecstatic about the fact that there only a few motor vehicles on the streets of Beijing… however the reason they people of Beijing still get around on bicycles and oxcarts is because their country is too poor to afford modern transportation. The eco-extermists are also ecstatic about the simplicity of the goods avaialble in China… just one brand each of the most basic commodities. This is not because China is “eco-friendly”: this is because China’s socialist economy is simply not capable of functioning in a global capitalist marketplace.
Compare the squalor of the Beijing game to our last two games here in the triumphantly capitalist USA, which were flawlessly executed spectacles. The games in Atlanta in 1996, even though the USA was under Clinton rule, were in fact the greatest sporting event the world has ever seen. Salt Lake City in 2002 was the second greatest.
Even the performance of the home town athletes has been pitiful. The USA has athletes who grew up under capitalism. The Chinese athletes grew up under socialism, and hence are incapable of developing the skills needed to compete on a global stage.
Socialism is failing in Europe too, as can be seen by the fact that the value of the Euro has plummeted from $1.75 to $1.60 in recent weeks.
21. cam | August 12th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
“Clooney is like most of the Hollywood ‘elites’. They believe themselves to be more important and smarter than anyone else because their agents, personal assistants, and other hangers-on say so.
”
-Hermie
Just replace Clooney with Bush and Hollywood with Wahsington and you have the perfect discription of the conservatives that post here.
22. Danish Artist | August 12th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Assmus,
“it was your momma, the last time I saw her”
Wow, did you think of that all by yourself?
I think I hear you mommy calling you. Does she know you are going to grownup blogs? How long have you been living in the basement?
Thanks for affirming that you are incapable of writing something above a fifth grade level.
What a loser.
23. yekepyt | August 12th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Smear, smear, smear. Psst…
He goes to a Christian church that espouses values that are important to BLACKS!
He has a funny name!
He’s dangerous!
He’s too POPULAR to win a the popular vote!
He has friends who are actors!
Hundreds of thousands of GERMANS wave American flags when he speaks!
Someone in his political party has committed ADULTERY and lied about it!
He’s really skinny!
He took a VACATION!
He wants Americans to have HEALTH CARE and MATERNITY LEAVE!
He wants to take PRACTICAL, WELL-REASONED STEPS to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, instead of just spouting catchphrases that we can digest without actually thinking and repeat on our own!
He used to smoke CIGARETTES!
How pathetically desperate you all sound.
24. FmrMarine | August 12th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
yekeypt
you forgot he is a muslem
and a mulatto who rejects his whitness.
there fixed.
25. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Unholy Obamination,
“It seems like Obama’s energy plan calls for some wealth redistribution, oil companies giving 300 million Americans $1000 a piece, this might be some fuzzy math, but the big 5 at 10 billion each, for each quarter, (50 billion a quarter would take a year and a half at this summers oil price to equal the 3 trillion Obama wants to take.”
where did you learn to calculate? how do you figure that 300 million multiplied with 1000 equals 3 trillion?
besides, Obama wants to give 1000 dollars to every family, not every person.
So with, lets say 100 million family’s, getting 1000 dollars each that would be 100 billion dollars or the equivalent of half a years net profit for the big 5
Rasmus
26. Carl Gordon | August 12th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Okay, you’re missing the point about all this, including the upcoming election. Let me wax succinct.
In Western societies, value is foisted on those who have achieved material wealth and power, rather than judging whether the wealthy and powerful are valuable individuals – silly really. Those who do not achieve wealth are not granted status but labeled poot butts or worse (Repugs). This dearth of reverence is excused as an alibi to the underachievers (Red states) to follow their masters down a supposed path to respectability through education (Under-funded and dumbed down according to plan) and “honest” work: a road to soul ruin that actually denies access to wealth to the few Joeys that are able to satisfy the highest educational standards and who can then slave for the higher salaries and exploit commercial opportunities and their nascent victims that unwittingly stumble across their azimuth.
The reality that Boosh, DIK, and their minions are privy to is that it is quicker to steal the money and use violence to get power and, if having the money and power is all that is required for high status, adopting criminal means is more efficient and actually gets them kind of hard. Thus, there is a gaping maw between the culturally-induced aspirations for economic success and the structurally decayed possibilities for achieving it. This lack co-ordination between meanies and worker ants leads to limited participation in the social structure, lack of regularity, and inevitability of life sucking. Simply put - A condition of anomie or cultural chaos supervenes.
27. FmrMarine | August 12th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
cam;
>>>Just replace Clooney with Bush and Hollywood with Wahsington and you have the perfect discription of the conservatives that post here.>>>
REALLY ??
well lets see….
George Clooney considered following his father’s tracks into journalism.
Short stints at the Northern Kentucky University and the University of Cincinnati followed his high school graduation in 1979.
now W
GRADUATE , Harvard
GRADUATE , YALE…..MBA
GRADUATE , Officers Training
Graduate , navy flight school
Rose to Captain
Flew JET fighters = top 1 % only qualify
OWNER oil company
OWNER baseball franchise
TWICE elected gov. of our largest state (mainland)
TWICE elected PRESIDENT of the USA!
so now some dimwitted, college dropout “actor”
is campaigning for some, affirmative action chicago political “community organizer” and we are supposed to listen to HIM…….
BWWWAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA !!!!!
28. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
FrmMarine and Danish artist,
From now on I shall refer to you collectively as dumb&dumber if you don’t mind. Not one single time have the two of you written anything remotely interesting. You wouldn’t happen to be related would you?
At least guys like Spook and Neocon seem intelligent enough to construct sentences and make somewhat sense.
Rasmus
29. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Well put Carl, but if you want dumb&dumber to understand just a little of what you wrote, you will have to rewrite it.
regards,
Rasmus
30. CanadianObserver | August 12th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
27. FmrMarine | August 12th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
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One difference between the two, FmrMarine, would be that Clooney has become a pretty successful actor, whereas, poor old Bush has become a dismal failure.
31. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Deleted - obscenity.
32. New Conservative | August 12th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I always find it amazing the liberals have nothing better to do than to come on Conservative websites and start fights. Then again when you don’t have a job what else are you going to do.
http://thenewconservatives.blogspot.com/
33. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Obama on foreign policy. don’t tell me this guy doesn’t understand what its all about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7yuVDk-btk&feature=related
34. Danish Artist | August 12th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Assmus,
“From now on I shall refer to you collectively as dumb&dumber if you don’t mind. Not one single time have the two of you written anything remotely interesting.”
Well, that is because either we had to write at your level, or what we wrote is over your head - it’s a no brainer.
Let’s see what you would call intelligent:
“Noonan - didn’t your big hero Ronald Reagan start out as an actor?”
“why should Obama agree to a setup chosen by McCain?” In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, “I think that’s a great idea.”
“Regarding the Reagan remark, no it was actually your mama that came up with it the last time I saw her.” - I haven’t heard a “your momma” remark since grade school.
“In my opinion George has never achieved anything by himself. He grew up with a silver spoon up his ass and that tends to not stimulate intelligence or real values in a person.
He is a fake.”
Carl Gordon’s entire post!
I have never seen such a collection of debunked talking points at this stage of the game. Your “facts” are so out of date it is pathetic.
You couldn’t handle actual intelligent discourse.
35. Some Assembly Required | August 12th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
I do not really look too cloney to sway my political opinions. Infact, I think he’s become pompus in recent movies. His performance in Micheal Claton is a prime example of this IMO. Mark, be careful here. You do realize by holding this against Obama it leaves McCain open to be held accountable with any celebrity he may talk to or who may endorse him. Then I forgot, you do actually hold a double standard.
Clooney has nothing to do with politics, he’s one man voicing his opinion. If it were Eddie Vedder, I might be able to say you have a small point, but not Clooney.
If you honestly believe Obama is going to take George’s opinions over anyone you sir are delusional. Obama has rooms full of intelligent people to influence his decisions. Based on you implying George has some magical pull over Obama, what would you say those 300 economists had? How about those people who helped him beat the Clinton’s? How about those people who help him develop policy that McCain agrees with? How about those people who helped him show the ‘Gas Tax Holiday’ was a bad idea?
I’m sick of hearing about, Obama talked to this person or Obama went swimming. Your Candidate is McCain yet you do not mention him. Look back, you charge Obama with something then half a dozen ‘liberal’ posters prove how they are mis-representations and then show his actual policies. There are some conservatives here who add a lot to the debates and some who even offer up McCain’s or their own ideas of what can be changed or upgraded. However, If I were to guess 70% of what is said, is horse poop. How many times are people going to call him a mulato, a socialist, anti-American? Stop attacking his character and start attacking him on issues with proposals that are contrary to his. Oh wait, you can’t because most of his proposals are spot on the money.
Envy, it wears a coat and hangs out in hallways.
36. Stretchrun | August 12th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
. Rasmus | August 12th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Why do we never get to talk about the issues? It seems like the only acceptable subjects are personal. Tell me what McCain’s healthcare plan looks like, energy plan etc…
Forget it. Coming here you might as well play the Limbaugh/Hannity Swift-boat game with Matt, Mark, DA, ND, neocon and the other four or five regular wingnut posters. Discussions of such issues during a Presidential campaign is better served at another blog. Here such comments are deleted.
37. Some Assembly Required | August 12th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
DA, judging from what I have seen you are a puppet. I haven’t decided whether a sock puppet of Marionette yet. I’d like to think you had strings, but something keeps telling me you have someones hand forceably inserted into you a$$.
Have a nice day
38. jayhay | August 12th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
And McCain’s top foreign policy adviser is a lobbyist for Georgia - nice clean conflict-free operation he has going there… Not that the “liberal media conspiracy” will say anything about it.
And now the McCain campaign is dropping the “no questioning the other candidate’s patriotism” pledge. Ready on day one, just like Hillary, to trash the place desperately to win.
39. Kahn | August 12th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Canadian Observer,
Reagan was a Union activist and president of SAG before running for state office. He cleaned out corruption in that union and was threatened by organized crime. Police gave him a pistol and strongly urged him to carry it for self protection.
About being governor of California. If California were a nation, it would have the 8th largest economy on the planet. That would be ahead of Canadas I believe. Its a big complicated and tremendously productive place.
So yah, a history like THAT does qualify you.
40. neocon | August 12th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
jayhay,
Thanks for the completely meaningless talking points. What’s wrong with consulting for a fledgling democracy? And how is that a “conflict of interest” in fighting against a Soviet incursion? Unless of course you support Soviets.
And how is McCain dropping the “patriotism” pledge? Do you ever tire of complaining about things?
just curious
neocon
41. neocon | August 12th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Stretch,
Here you’ll find all your answers. I am a little surprised you hadn’t thought about that yourself.
http://www.johnmccain.com/
Also, if you’d like to hear the issues debated, you’ll have to ask Obama why he chooses not to debate McCain.
Any other pointless remarks?
neocon
42. FmrMarine | August 12th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
rasass;
>>>At least guys like Spook and Neocon seem intelligent enough to construct sentences and make somewhat sense.>>>
Talking to retards is useless, i prefer to reply to your drivel with drivel.
I have the same contempt and disgust for you and your likes, as you do for us.
You, the frogs, and some other kool aid drinking idiots who post here deserve nothing more than you spew.
If you want real dialog try one of your marxist sites.
Other than that you are a waste of bandwidth.
43. cam | August 12th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
FmrMarine,
Its good Bush didn’t have to use any of the high priced training he was given in the Navy. He has a history of running things into the ground.
Harvard- Did not qualify but affirmative action for the well connected got him in. Ran his grades into the ground, learned cheer leading, a must for chicken hawks.
Rose to Captain - quite an accomplishment for someone who has so many political connections
Flew JET fighters - did not qualify but connections allowed him to jump to the front of the line, kept Texas free of groundhogs, did cocaine, did not show up for mandatory training. Good we put such high priced training to good use. Viet Nam was calling but Bush wasn’t answering the phone.
OWNER oil companies - ran them both into the ground, insider trading, protected from charges by daddy.
OWNER baseball franchise - one of the few times he succeeded, mostly on the backs of the taxpayers who were asked to subsidize the building of a stadium for well heeled owners. We love welfare as long as its not for poor people.
Texas - gleefully executes record numbers
PRESIDENT of the USA - well we all know how badly he screwed that one up.
Come on now sing along:
It aint me, I aint the senator’s son…….
44. neocon | August 12th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
cam,
Hard to believe you consider yourself to be in a position to denigrate the accomplishments of someone who has done more with his life than you ever will with yours.
Also, a little wierd to believe you know that much about Bush. Obsession is not a healthy thing.
MoveOn.org
just saying
neocon
45. FmrMarine | August 12th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
cam
you must be one of the klooney, gore dropout idiots.
He was not stellar in school, but un like the RATS who attended some schools, he earned his grades and graduated, and went on to an MBA.
Political influence does not mean success, ask algore…flunkie dropout, army private.
again your BDS shows you to be a retard.
So tell us all about the accomplishments of NObama…….
affirmative action student-graduate.
affirmative action prof……(real hard)
affirmative action community organizer….WOW !
affirmative action presidential canditate.
mulatto, pretending to be black……affirmative action black at that to.
wife…..affirmative action hospital media rep.
This guy is a complete joke as are you and the rest of the marxist RATS who spew their swill here daily.
46. ho-hum | August 12th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
FmrMarine,
Why don’t you go take your meds, you racist little trash bag.
47. js | August 12th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
u ever get tired of beating on these half wits and mental midgets FmrMarine?
48. Kahn | August 13th, 2008 at 1:21 am
cam
Bush was in the Air Force, not the Navy
The plane Bush flew was the most crashed plane we ever had, yet he didn’t crash
Bush went to Yale, not Harvard.
Bush got better grades in college than Gore and about the same as Kerry.
Bush DID go to Harvard AFTER Yale where he earned his MBA
And YOU are an idiot.
49. Kahn | August 13th, 2008 at 1:22 am
js, personally, I’m sick of them. Is this who votes Democrat?
50. Rasmus | August 13th, 2008 at 6:08 am
Obama on Patriotism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMbBuEoEYnk
don’t tell me this guy is just a hollow celebrity.
51. SEW | August 13th, 2008 at 6:35 am
Bush had slightly better grades at Yale than Francois. And he is more photogenic.
http://stix1972.typepad.com/stix_blog/images/kerry_bunnysuit.jpg
52. Danish Artist | August 13th, 2008 at 6:40 am
“DA, judging from what I have seen you are a puppet. I haven?t decided whether a sock puppet of Marionette yet. I?d like to think you had strings, but something keeps telling me you have someones hand forceably inserted into you a$$.”
SAR, I see you have come out of your self-admitted drug induced fog to peck at the keyboard. You head is definitely inserted into yours. If you think I am a puppet, then I KNOW you cannot even be useful as one. The leftists are just as happy that you cloud your mind so you and others like you cannot see their true intentions all the will regurgitating the party line in the mindless haze you exist in.
Stretchmark,
Why do never talk of the issues. Simple, you leftists come here to disrupt. You may get your talking points in and once you have used them you resort to attacks and insults.
“Coming here you might as well play the Limbaugh/Hannity Swift-boat game with Matt, Mark, DA, ND, neocon and the other four or five regular wingnut posters. Discussions of such issues during a Presidential campaign is better served at another blog. Here such comments are deleted.”
Case in point.
Another blog? Hardly. I have been to democratic underground, moveon.org & kos - only to be banned and NOT ONCE did I initiate any attacks. The leftists there did it everytime. I was banned because I did not regurgitate the leftist spin. Also, the democratic underground PROMISES (in writing) that if you came here to disagree you will be banned.
Here, you can debate as long as you follow the rules which Matt, Mark & Leo have laid out. It is that simple.
A note about Obama - he is running on the promise of change? right? Tell me, what has he changed in his short-lived political life? Not politics as usual, he claims. What did he “change” in the corrupt Chicago regime? What did he change in Illinois? In the Senate? What has a reform candidate actually “reformed”???
I’ll give you an example - earmarks. When Obama had the chance did he vote for the bridge to nowhere OR did he vote to divert money for that earmark to help the people in New Orleans to repair their highway bridges. He voted for the bridge to nowhere.
S. Amdt 1003 to H.R. 2361: Coburn Amdt. No. 1003: To require a conference report inclusion of limitations, directives and earmarks - Opposed Reform
260 2005-10-20 S. Amdt. 2093 to H.R. 3058: Motion To Table Coburn Amdt. No. 2093 To prohibit any funds under the Act from being used for a parking facility as part of the Joslyn Art Museum - Opposed Reform
262 2005-10-25 S. Amdt 2165 to H.R. 3058: Redirects funds from two dubious Alaska bridge projects to reconstruction of New Orleans bridge damaged by Katrina - Opposed Reform
106 2007-03-27 Thomas Amendment No. 515; To prevent the adding of extraneous earmarks to an emergency war supplemental. -Opposed Reform
134 2007-04-18 S. AMDT 891 to S. 378: On the motion to table Coburn Amdt. No. 891 (re: offsetting costs of government programs) -Opposed Reform
140 2007-04-24 S. AMDT 917 to S. 761: Motion to table Coburn amdt. No 917 (re: offset costs of government programs) - Opposed Reform
142 2007-04-25 DeMint Amdt. No. 930; To prohibit congressional earmarks of funds appropriated pursuant to authorizations in the bill. - Opposed Reform
164 2007-05-15 Coburn amendment to require Katrina victims in LA to have housing before building a new Army Corps visitors center -Opposed Reform
- CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!!!
http://porkbusters.org/earmark_state.php?state=Illinois
We await your talking points!
53. SEW | August 13th, 2008 at 6:44 am
Also more photogenic than Looney. Here W is getting foreign policy advice while improving diplomatic ties with China. But Looney and Obama would make a cute couple.
http://cmnetwork.blogspot.com/2008/08/wildcard-session-george-w-bush-digs-hot.html
54. phnx | August 13th, 2008 at 7:23 am
I doubt that Obama is taking advise from Clooney seriously.
The Hollywood celebs are ego whores. Like Bubba Clinton, they love the limelight and must have publicity and adoration to survive day to day.
The Dems play Hollywood celebs like fiddles, to get their donations. Massage their big egos by making them think they are important, and their ideas are relevant and bingo…they send $$$$$.
That’s all this is about.
55. Some Assembly Required | August 13th, 2008 at 8:30 am
52. Danish Artist | August 13th, 2008 at 6:40 am
So your response is basically ‘Nooooooo, YOU ARE!’. Aside from calling me a drug addict. Yup, I’ve done drugs. Yup, I smoke refer on the weekends. Extacy is a powerful drug but the recovery period shys me away from it. All the same, give me a couple hits of blotter acid and throw on Zeppelin III, it’s like a little slice of heaven. I wouldn’t recommend watching Alice in Wonderland when induced by such drugs however. It’s very easy to get lost in the animation and quite frankly, the rabbit hole scares the $hit out of me.
DA, I feel bad for you. I think everyone should experience a wonderful trip at least once in their lifetime. Dancing pink elephants are most certainly a sight to see. Just remember, stay calm it really is all in your mind.
Phnx, I completely agree with you.
56. congressive | August 13th, 2008 at 8:59 am
must have publicity and adoration to survive day to day
Funny, I don’t think Clooney would up and die if he spent a weekend fishing by himself. This day to day thing is an outsider’s sour grapes.
Celebrities are by definition “celebrated” for our looks, talent and/or vision. Only those who have no looks, talent or vision while still having a disproportionately overblown ego would slam Clooney on the left or Ted Nugent on the right as nothing but ego whores. Psychologically, that is known as Freudian Projection, in this case as you refuse to accept you DON’T have looks, talent or vision, but are not as wildly successful as Clooney simply because he’s a whore and you’re not.
That’s all this is about.
57. SEW | August 13th, 2008 at 9:15 am
Freudian projection. Only those who have no looks, talent or vision would slam Clooney. So why does Clooney slam Bush, or Paris Hilton slam McCain? No looks, talent or vision? More crap congressive.
Clooney and Obama are socialists and Clooney is a kook to boot. And Clooney is only a socialist with someone else’s money. Nothing to do with my looks, talent or vision. What a load, again.
58. Kahn | August 13th, 2008 at 9:18 am
congressive says “Celebrities are by definition “celebrated” for our looks, talent and/or vision.”
OUR?
Hah!
59. SEW | August 13th, 2008 at 10:33 am
My dislike with Clooney Obama has nothing to do with racism or skin color. They are socialists and like I said Clooney is a kook to boot, I like him even less. So much for the race card bro.
Paris doesn’t bother me so much!
60. Xavier Cugat | August 13th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Wait…John and Cindy McCain are advising Barack Obama now?
61. Xavier Cugat | August 13th, 2008 at 11:05 am
FmrMarine,
Geez, I haven’t heard anyone rail against Affirmative Action so hard in years. What’s the deal, dude? So bitter. Would I be wrong in guessing that you’re having trouble getting a job?
And to claim Obama’s accomplishments are all attributable to Affirmative Action makes me laugh. First, he was Magna Cum Laude at Harvard Law School and President of the Law Review. Second, while you dismiss his professorship, he was a senior lecturer at University of Chicago Law School. If you’re not aware (and judging from you’re postings, that’s a fair assumption), University of Chicago is not a liberal ivory tower. It’s a very conservative institution. And it’s one of the top 10 law schools. So, to use your words, it is “real hard” to be on the faculty there.
62. phnx | August 13th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Celebrities are by definition “celebrated” for OUR looks, talent and/or vision.” Congressive
BBBwwwwaahahahahahahahahaha!
A Freudian slip if ever I saw one.
63. Danish Artist | August 13th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
SAR:
“So your response is basically ‘Nooooooo, YOU ARE!’. Aside from calling me a drug addict.”
No, my response was not a “no you are” - wait to sober up and read it again.
Calling you a drug addict? No, just repeated what you have admitted to before and again now.
SAR, you are so touchy and drugs are supposed to make you feel better then what is the problem? Doesn’t sound like it’s working.
“DA, I feel bad for you. I think everyone should experience a wonderful trip at least once in their lifetime.”
There are other ways to achieve the “high” or the “trip”, naturally. I’ll leave it to your imagination. Maybe you can hallucinate yourself to an in kind experience.
Meanwhile, continue to mellow out, that is just how the leftists was you and others.
64. cam | August 13th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
phnx,
What is BBBwwwwaahahahahahahahahaha? I never know what it means but it cracks me up every time. Even when you use it on me.
neocon,
I am not denigrating Bush, he does that well enough himself. What I am saying is that Bush is probably the first president that was entirely created by a marketing mastermind/machine. They took a guy who is probably fun to be around, tells good jokes and made him into a president. What they needed was a pretty face to get the American public to buy what they were selling. And it was no used car, but rather the neocon dream of an Iraq that could be transformed into a capitalist nirvana, a kind of utopian beaker where none of the pesky regulations of the United States would get in the way. But like the used car salesman what we were sold was a bill of goods with very little that was of any use and a huge bill inflated by crooked contractors who double billed, charged for things that were never delivered or never finished what they were contracted to do, that added trillions of dollars of debt and a government that although incompetent, as planned, bigger than ever. So even though Bush ran on typical conservative calls for shrinking of government, like his failures in business, resulted in just the opposite of what he was supposedly hired to do.
When you look at his “accomplishments” you find that much of what he “achieved” was handed to him on a silver platter. You could go to Yale and find any number of children of former graduates, who qualified because of their connections, who come from the upper class and have similar traits as I have described here and put them into the same circumstances and they would arrive at about the same point. If you look at what Bush did, he is not a self made man. Can you name anything he did on his own before he was elected governor of Texas that did not involve someone pulling strings or handing it to him on a silver platter? While he maintains an image of “common man” he is nothing but blue blood or as the right likes to say the elite.
Keep in mind this “businessman” was never an integral part of a successful business. Every business he had any control over where run into the ground shortly after he was put in executive positions with them. One of these business ventures even made him money by way of insider trading that was never prosecuted because he had the protection of Daddy Bush, the president at the time this case came before the SEC. Further, the shadowy “investor” who bailed out 43 never was identified as that would lead to certain embarrassment to find who George was rubbing elbows with. And now he has done the same with our country. Either candidate who becomes president next will have their work cut out for them.
Oh, and by the way, if you want to talk about unhealthy obsessions you should address your conservative brethren who have yet to get over either of the Clintons.
Further, knowing a little about the man behind the curtain is not weird. If I knew as much about you other than what I can glean from your postings here, that would be weird. But Bush is the president of the United States. If you had the same obsession about Bush as you have about Barack Obama, perhaps you could have come to understand what a fraud George W. Bush truly was before you made the mistake of voting for him and we would not be in the quagmire we find ourselves in now.
Never mind, you would still vote for him despite the charlatan that a true examination would have revealed.
65. cam | August 13th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Danish Artist,
I agree, this website has come a long way and is quite fair in allowing any left wing kook such as myself to post. I have looked at some of the liberal leaning web sites and have found a dearth of rules that limit posting and give the owners of some of those sites carte blanche when it comes to what is allowed. Even so, I would encourage the purveyors of this site to continue to encourage the free expression of ideas without bridling those that are not like minded. It is much appreciated.
66. cam | August 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Whoops,
Silly me, dearth should be glut.
67. SEW | August 13th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
The only thing cam got right in #43 is that Texas gleefully executes record numbers. What got into you to record a truthful statement?
68. Miltonian | August 14th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Paris Hilton For Prez
Seriously we gotta get this girl on the ticket in close race states. Organize write in campaigns via Youtube etc.
Young, naive disaffected voters who lean away from O the more they know but can’t vote for an old geezer should be encouraged to vote Paris or even Nader. Even a few thousand numbskulls could swing a state.
69. congressive | August 14th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
SEW, Clooney doesn’t slam Bush for being an ego whore. Pay attention, here. Even Paris Hilton doesn’t slam McSame for being an ego whore. McSame does imply that Obama is an ego whore, though. Again, there’s that projection thing.
Nice catch, kahn! In my case, it’s not Freudian, though… :-{)