The Obama-Rezko Shady Deal
August 21st, 2008 at 05:54pm Matt Margolis
The RNC has launched a new website “Obama-Rezko Shady Deal” which posts videos and all the latest news “pertaining to Barack Obama’s lack of judgment and questionable dealings with campaign fundraiser and convicted felon Tony Rezko.”
UPDATE: Thoughts from Viewpoint Journal:
Today the Obama Campaign released a new ad chiding Senator McCain for owning seven homes. Is this a sign of desperation or what?
It is true that when asked by Politico how many homes he owned, McCain did not know off the top of his head. That is because many of those homes belong to his wife, who was wealthy long before McCain married her 28 years ago.
I’m not sure if, in 2004, this line of attack was ever used by conservatives against Senator Kerry regarding his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry (another wealthy heiress with many homes), but this whole thing smacks of desperation. How so?
In the first place, Senator Obama’s Chicago home was bought in partnership with Tony Rezko who is, basically, the Jack Abramoff of Illinois. The whole purchase, and a subsequent sale of additional land adjacent to the Obama’s property for a price lower than market value, is still under a cloud. Tony Rezko himself was convicted of multiple crimes of corruption with perhaps more charges to come.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Corruption
108 Comments
1. The Obama-Rezko Shady Dea&hellip | August 21st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
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2. LiberalMind | August 21st, 2008 at 6:36 pm
McCain is linked to every criminal in the Republican party, of which Bush is the chief offender.
McCain has shady dealings with big oil, Ralph Reed, Karl Rove, the Keating gang, Tom Delay, Jack Abramoff and far too many other to name.
The culture of corruption is hung around McCain’s neck like a giant millstone and into the electoral pit he will follow the GOP.
3. congressive | August 21st, 2008 at 6:49 pm
The ad doesn’t attack Son of Cain’s owning of seven homes, it attacks his inability to remember how many homes he owns. Here’s a man who is either losing his mind, or completely out of control of his own family’s finances.
How will he run a country? Will he just sign a prenuptial agreement with the Republicans and remain blissfully ignorant of the American economy, letting the embedded cronies continue to run the store?
Meanwhile, Obama’s one home makes HIM elitist because it has a wine cellar. Oh, the humanity.
Rezko is the best you’ve got. Yawn. The worst thing about Rezko is how much he resembles a short, angry Dr. Phil. THAT’S scary.
Oh, and, technically it’s not a new website, it’s just another page at GOP.com, easily done by a junior high school computer student embedding YouTube. Double yawn.
4. bongoman | August 21st, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Also, the owning of numerous homes goes a fair way in rebutting the claim that Obama is the “elitist”.
5. SEW | August 21st, 2008 at 7:02 pm
McCain owns 0 houses. His wife owns 7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjC2AlWy6CI
6. David | August 21st, 2008 at 7:07 pm
If you Obama supporters think this is not going to wind up hurting Obama WAY more than it ever would have helped him, you’re deluding yourselves. Whoever advised him to run this campaign ad will soon be collecting unemployment.
It was a horrible decision, and thanks to Obama, McCain has a legitimate excuse to go after him for his shady dealings. And if the Obama Campaign is dumb enough to try and respond, it will make him look even worse.
The worst that can be said about McCain is that his wife is her own person and owns some of her own interests. Rezko, on the other hand, it pure political poison.
Regards,
David
7. uffy | August 21st, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Since when have DEMS draped themselves in the cloak of respectability and morality? Lest you forget, there are at present 5 DEMS under investigation in Congress. And we won’t even talk about Edwards, Spitzer, McGreevey, etc. or ABSCAM. If John McCain would have started his political career at the table of a known terrorist the leftist would have imploded!
I could care less how many homes the McCains own nor do I care how many homes the Kerrys own. What I do care about is the ability of our candidates to have the experience both domestic and foreign to lead the USA. I don’t use age discrimination–I will leave that to the desparate leftists–nor do I use color to form my opinion of any candidate. There are serious issues facing the USA. The do nothing Congress led by the DEMS have done NOTHING. Their 2006 pledge to the American citizens was a pack of lies!
I don’t want my President to use “humility” when dealing with terrorists. I don’t want my President to talk nice to those who want to destroy the USA or the way of life that most enjoy under freedom. And if you don’t think freedom isn’t important, just try living without it.
The USA is no longer self sustaining. We have become a country of whiners and users. Instead of coming together as one in the greatest country in the world we have played right into the terrorists hands. We are a nation divided. Instead of taking responsibility for our own actions, we blame everyone in sight. What a travesty. We have failed our founding fathers, we have failed previous generations, and most of all we have failed ourselves. We don’t have many chances to get it right any longer. So for the haters out there I have only one suggestion—do something postive. Take all that negative energy and go make a difference.
8. Danish Artist | August 21st, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Obama was supposed to be the new kind of politician. He was not going to run a smear campaign.
Of course, that is the image he tries to present. However, as seen in the campaign with Hillary and now with McCain, Obama is nothing more than the typical Chicago politics, politician. Links to crooked individuals, relationships with radical individuals and personal shortcomings are all the things being downplayed by the image campaign.
Question, when Kerry was running, it was not important to the Democrats how many homes Kerry-Heinz had, he was intouch with the American people no matter what. Amazing how things change in four years with the Democrats and only a few short months with Obama.
Obama’s shining image is fading………fading……….fading………..fad…..ing………………
9. Rich | August 21st, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Danish artist- Funny also that four years ago when Kerry was running the Libs thought the CIC needed military experience. Now with Obambi, it doesn’t matter.
As far as the house issue, thanks again to opening up the Rezko house issue. People don’t care how many houses and rental properties you own as long as you got them legally.
10. Bull | August 21st, 2008 at 8:13 pm
DA and rich, don’t forget how bush’s younger days of drinking made him unfit, but obama can smoke crack, snort coke, gang bang and it’s okay.
11. gotbrains? | August 21st, 2008 at 8:23 pm
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
12. neocon | August 21st, 2008 at 8:40 pm
His mother lives in one of those houses, his aunt another, and his underpriveledged, foreign born adopted daughter lives in another. It’s nice to know that McCain takes care of his family.
Where’s does Obamas brother live again?
13. gotbrains? | August 21st, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Several points:
1) Obama’s Chicago is fairly modest by today’s urban real estate standards. There are a number of McCain vacation homes (and Kerry and Bush vacation homes for that matter) that far out-value Obama’s relatively modest single residence.
2) There is no evidence whatsoever that the Obama’s got the home (which is their only residence, btw) below the asking price. The former owners have testified to the fact that the Obama’s paid exactly the asking price:
3) Neither did the Obamas get a lower interest on the loan for the home. The Obamas paid a rate of 5.625 on the loan. At the time, the average rate on comparable properties was 5.93. However, anybody who has very good credit can get up to 30 basis points off as compared to those with merely good credit - and a borrower with excellent credit can get a 50 basis point discount. Consider these facts that would have given Obama excellent credit ratings:
- Obama had just gotten a $2.27 million book deal from Random House — about $1 million more than the value of the mortgage.
- The Obamas each had exceptionally secure jobs that paid them a combined annual salary of about $500,000 per year.
- The Obamas had just sold their condo, on which they had realized a $137,500 profit.
- The Obamas were prominent public figures whose political futures depended in part on maintaining a reputation for responsibility and trustworthiness.
- The Obamas are known to be relatively thrifty and have no credit card debt but substantial savings.
So yeah, the Obama’s got a discount interest rate based on their exceptional credit worthiness.
4) The McCain counter-attack ad is ludicrous and demonstrably false when it says “Rezko helped them get a house they otherwise could not have afforded”. Obviously, from the points I listed above, this home was well within the Obama’s means - they were easily able to afford such a home.
Moreover, I thought the wingnuts were always trying to imply that Obama is some kind of “elitist”. Well, if he’s so elite, then why does the stupid McCain ad said that he couldn’t afford a single, relatively modest house? It’s one or the other boys - either Obama is elite, or he can’t afford a house. Pick one.
Sorry to burst your bubble - thems just the facts.
14. gotbrains? | August 21st, 2008 at 9:03 pm
in previous post, point 1) should read “Obama’s Chicago home…”
15. Casper | August 21st, 2008 at 9:06 pm
SEW,
“McCain owns 0 houses. His wife owns 7.”
So he can’t remember that he doesn’t own a house? That makes it better?
16. SEW | August 21st, 2008 at 9:07 pm
What’s the big deal? Rezko was only a friend, and simply started Barry’s political career. Besides, he was acquitted of 8 of the 24 charges in the political corruption trial. He was only guilty on 16 of 24! And he only has 2 more criminal cases pending! The neocons act like Obama’s buddy is a bad guy when he was actually acquitted on 8 of the charges. Here is Barry’s response.
“This isn’t the Tony Rezko I knew.”
17. SEW | August 21st, 2008 at 9:11 pm
“So he can’t remember that he doesn’t own a house?” Casper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47sO1TCVmE
18. Casper | August 21st, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Wow what a great answer. At least Obama knows how many houses he owns (one). Come to think of it, I bet most regular people do. I own one, how about you? I’m thinking it’s only elitists who wear $550 dollar shoes that forget little things like that.
19. FmrMarine | August 21st, 2008 at 9:36 pm
congressive;
>>>How will he run a country?>>>>
DUUUHHHHHH !!!
he will simply pull the levers that are marked “RUN the COUNTRY”.
You rats are the STUPIDEST people I have ever witnessed…….EVER hear of the separation of powers?
what powers……..the govt. powers you know the THREE branches.
This is not north korea, it is a constitutional republic, and the President DOES N-O-T “run the country” ! jeez get an education you moron.
PS
HOW many houses does jay rockefeller, own?
lyrch-gold digger kerry?,
bloated Chappaquiddick ted?
the breck boy?
etc etc…..Oh well now back to RUNNING the internet!….oh sorry algore has that job…damn.
20. thrower | August 21st, 2008 at 9:46 pm
So you think this hurts Obama and not McCain David? Guess again. The whole point behind the elitist attack on Obama was to take that weapon away from him. Conservatives regularly warn against class warfare because it is the war they cannot win. The notion that he was out of touch with “regular” Americans killed Bush 41.
The attention to McCain’s wealth will hurt him. How much will he personally save through making the Bush tax cuts permanent? How much will you save? How can you not know how many homes you own? I know it, you know it and the fool down the street knows it. Like it or not, McCain lives in a wealth bubble, protected from the forces that are raising anxiety levels in most voters.
John McCain is perhaps the best known presidential nominee since Bush 41. Despite virtual total name recognition, he can’t get beyond 45% in any of the polls. The negative focus on his wealth, cheating, divorce, Keating and mental acuity will drive those numbers down. It remains to be seen if Obama can capitalize on those issues but it is clear that the drive to do just that is on. The unilateral smear fest is over. Both sides are now engaged.
21. FmrMarine | August 21st, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Danish;
>>>Obama was supposed to be the new kind of politician. He was not going to run a smear He campaign.>>>>
oBOMBa is a chicago “community organizer” which translated is …..
a member of one of the most corrupt, cities, corrupt politicians, corrupt governments in this country.
He is an al sharpton. je$$e jackass, style rabel rousing street pimp, an affirmative action, racist thug, who belongs to a racist cult affiliated with the nation of islam.
He is a wolf in sheeps clothing with a one page resume.
He knows NOTHING else but, this kind of campaign, and has the chicago mob organization behind him.
22. SEW | August 21st, 2008 at 9:52 pm
“So he can’t remember that he doesn’t own a house?” Casper
“In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died—an entire town destroyed,” the Democratic presidential candidate said in a speech to 500 people packed into a sweltering Richmond art studio for a fundraiser.” Barry Obama
12 died.
23. FmrMarine | August 21st, 2008 at 9:53 pm
PS
I have renamed him oBOMBa, due to his CLOSE relationship of the bomber, ayers.
24. obama rezko | hotwordstod&hellip | August 21st, 2008 at 9:56 pm
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25. FmrMarine | August 21st, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Sew
LOL
>>>Obama overstates Kansas tornado deaths
Democratic presidential hopeful says ‘10,000 people died’ instead of 10
Sen. Obama’s slip of the tongue
May 8: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., slips up during a speech in Richmond, Va., saying 10,000 people died in the Kansas tornado instead of at least 11. Later in the speech, Obama said he was “tired” and “there are going to be times when I make mistakes.”
RICHMOND, Va. - Barack Obama, caught up in the fervor of a campaign speech, drastically overstated the Kansas tornadoes death toll, saying 10,000 had died.
The death toll was 12.>>>
BWWWWAAAAA HA HA HA !
26. neocon | August 21st, 2008 at 10:02 pm
“The notion that he was out of touch with “regular” Americans killed Bush 41.” - thrower
Ross Perot killed Bush 41 and Clinton won with less than 50% of the vote. Nice try.
“Like it or not, McCain lives in a wealth bubble,” - thrower
Funny I don’t remember you being concerned about tnat when Francois Kerry ran in 2004. And considering the DNC power machine is funded by people like Soros, do you really want to go there?
McCain is up by five in a year when all your party had to do was show up and breathe. Obama is a political lightweight that will thrown to the proverbial liberal ash heap in November.
The Democrats blew it again.
27. SEW | August 21st, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Does Bambi suffer from presenile dementia? Too much crack and marijuana?
28. neocon | August 21st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
“Like it or not, McCain lives in a wealth bubble,” - thrower
I’d also like to know when it became a bad thing to be rich in America. Care to explain that for me thrower?
29. LiberalNitemare | August 21st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Hmmm, last time I looked, Obama’s got a pretty nice wealth bubble goin too. Thanks to Gotbrains for doing my leg work -
-Obama had just gotten a $2.27 million book deal from Random House — about $1 million more than the value of the mortgage.
- The Obamas each had exceptionally secure jobs that paid them a combined annual salary of about $500,000 per year.
- The Obamas had just sold their condo, on which they had realized a $137,500 profit.
But somehow, Im supposed to believe that Obama sees it my way?
30. yekepyt | August 21st, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Someone said that McCain had dealings with the Keating Five.
This is inaccurate.
McCain WAS one of the Keating Five!
Dear Neocon: Being rich is not a problem — it’s being so demented that you can’t remember how many houses you have that’s indicative of a problem. Will he be able to remember how many solidiers Iran has in their army? Or how many nuclear missles Russia has?
Inquiring minds want to know . . .
31. gotbrains? | August 21st, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Liberalnighty -
post #29: “Hmmm, last time I looked, Obama’s got a pretty nice wealth bubble goin too.”
Yeah, that’s from money he made in just the last few years. Before that, he was still paying off his student loans.
And Barack earned his recent money himself… unlike McCain who married wealth. Remember when you toadies made fun of another war hero who married into wealth? Well, back at ya, pal.
32. neocon | August 21st, 2008 at 10:43 pm
yekepyt,
You’ll have at least the next four years to investigate that after McCain kicks Obamas ass this fall.
And I thought you guys wanted to talk about the issues?
33. SEW | August 21st, 2008 at 10:46 pm
“Inquiring minds want to know” yekept
!0,000 died in Kansas Hussein Obama
57 states [no wait that's Francois' ketchup] Hussein Obama
Ayers lived in the neighborhood Hussein Obama
Keating 5 “The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him”
Too much crack, Barry.
34. neocon | August 21st, 2008 at 10:49 pm
got and yek,
Where did the love for Obama go? What happened to hope and change, and the seas parting, and the world becoming whole again?
Obama is such a force, his policies so enlightened, his speeches so inspiring in a year when Democrats had eveything going for them, and he trails the grumpy old bastard by 5 points.
This thing is over boys.
35. thrower | August 21st, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Personal wealth isn’t a problem if you forge a connection with people who are less fortunate Neo. Both FDR and JFK were blue bloods who succeeded in doing it. So far McCain hasn’t.
Being clueless about your own fabulous wealth isn’t a problem many people share. When you combine that with your own sound bites about a good economy and your economic advisor’s comment that people are whining about their financial problems, you become the personification of an elitist.
36. Kahn | August 21st, 2008 at 11:24 pm
McCains wife own many homes. Some, she lets relatives live in. Others are investment properties. All were reported on financial forms with the Senate and the campaign. And no, he doesn’t track them all.
This is a deliberate misstatement by Obama and you leftists. This is your NEW way? Your shining HOPE? What a steaming crock of loose crap.
Meanwhile, Rezko gets sentenced the week before the election. Since McCain can barely get press coverage, expect us to keep bringing up Rezko.
Rezko.
Rezko.
Rezko.
Rezko.
Rezko.
Rezko.
Rezko.
It’s not that Obama is unpatriotic, he just has poor judgment. Oh, and he’s socialist and defeatist.
37. Rich | August 21st, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Remember when Kerry and Edwards has a catered meal on their bus after they fake ate at a Burger King? That was not elitist at all was it thrower? Did that cost Kerry middle America?
38. Magnum Serpentine | August 21st, 2008 at 11:43 pm
I wish I owned as many homes and I wish I was I had 100 million dollars like poor little rich boy McSame. Can we say Greed? Theres your answer Neocon, when Riches become Greed thats when riches become a problem. And its clear that McSame is afraid of this issue.
39. thrower | August 21st, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Kerry and Edwards were phony populists Rich. I will gladly join you in beating up on them. McCain will be portrayed as an of touch elitist. That is also fatal politically.
40. navydad | August 22nd, 2008 at 12:16 am
Appears the lefties here are a bit jealous of anyone that accumulates wealth…..sad to say the least….very sad.
41. Catfish | August 22nd, 2008 at 12:29 am
If ur gonna dlete 08ama’s comments, how does fmrmarine slip in? Hey more power to ya and thanks for the service to the country, but this:
“oBOMBa is a chicago “community organizer” which translated is …..
a member of one of the most corrupt, cities, corrupt politicians, corrupt governments in this country.
He is an al sharpton. je$$e jackass, style rabel rousing street pimp, an affirmative action, racist thug, who belongs to a racist cult affiliated with the nation of islam.
He is a wolf in sheeps clothing with a one page resume.
He knows NOTHING else but, this kind of campaign, and has the chicago mob organization behind him.”
is straight offensive, ignorant, off-topic, and borderline racist…………i mean, thats not intelligent debate. Delete offensive rightwing stuff as well as leftwing. Or neither…….
42. thrower | August 22nd, 2008 at 12:58 am
I think it is the way he “accumulated” his wealth that poses the potential problem for McCain, Navydad. Thanks to his own low road campaign, that subject is now on the table.
43. Jeremiah | August 22nd, 2008 at 1:32 am
I know several people who’ve married into their wealth … wouldn’t have a dime to their name if the hadn’t, but they went on to start businesses and have worked ever since, so I don’t see the big deal in that.
Obama, on the other hand, he is connected to this shady character Rezko, who, while he has not committed to anything disasterous, there’s always that chance to when Obama becomes President, Rezko could ask numerous favors of Obama, and I’m not talking just your “ordinary” favors, but favors that would do a lot of harm to others.
Obama has numerous friends that would possibly seek favors of him, Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, The Black Panther Party … They’re all of equal concern as to the implications that their favors would bring should Obama grant them, but the two that worry me the most perhaps are Farrakhan and this Rezko fella!
Anybody else thinking the same thing?
44. Mark Noonan | August 22nd, 2008 at 1:35 am
thrower,
The real question is why you and the rest of the lefties run screaming in terror from the actual subject here - what about Obama and his deep and abiding connnections with someone as hopelessly corrupt as Rezko? And, lets not forget the rest of the monumentally corrupt Chicago Democratic machine Obama comes out of….
45. thrower | August 22nd, 2008 at 1:51 am
The two themes are connected because McCain connected them. He responded to Obama’s housing attack by raising the Rezko issue. If Obama did something illegal, bring charges. Otherwise it is old news. The “house” gaffe, by contrast, is today’s news.
By using an old relationship to impugn Obama’s character, McCain opens up his own past to similar scrutiny. Unfortunately for him, this is fertile ground. You and the other conservative apologists can cite some imagined statute of limitations on poor character but that only exists in your minds. To the rest of us, cheating on and then dumping the old wife is deplorable.
This campaign is now in the gutter and McCain put it there through his effective efforts to drive up Obama’s negatives. Now let’s see how he handles the heat.
46. Jeremiah | August 22nd, 2008 at 2:16 am
Now let’s see how he handles the heat.
I imagine that Obama is the one who’s going to be ‘taking the heat’, so to speak. His past 20 years are proof positive.
The polls are showing signs of that as we speak.
Obama is not only bad ethically business wise, he is failing miserably in his moral capacities to recognize the intrinsic worth of his fellow human beings.
Even worse, he doesn’t find himself as obligated to the people, but the people to him. And here I thought we already settled that, back in 1800s?
47. jayhay | August 22nd, 2008 at 2:31 am
Neocon - “I’d also like to know when it became a bad thing to be rich in America. Care to explain that for me thrower?”
When all you dopes played the lame elitist card, that’s when. Live by the sword, die by the sword…
And Noonan, the only one with “deep and abiding connections” to Rezko is you hacks, who can’t see that dog won’t hunt. But run with it…
48. jayhay | August 22nd, 2008 at 2:35 am
And please God let McC pick Mittens… Please please please!! I imagine his vetters are making sure he knows how many houses he has…
49. thrower | August 22nd, 2008 at 3:19 am
I’m not one of your critics Jeremiah. Bless you and continue to exercise your hard earned right to speak your mind, however controversial your thoughts might be.
But recognize, my friend, that the fight has been joined. By making Obama’s character an issue, McCain has made his own character an issue. If the attackers on the right make Michelle Obama an issue, expect Cindy McCain to become an issue. This is not the way politics should be waged in an enlightened democracy, but John McCain lost sight of that somewhere between 2000 and 2008.
50. congressive | August 22nd, 2008 at 4:39 am
The Rezko truth already came out, and the GOP is lying:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/521/
Read it yourself. Don’t trust me.
The truth behind Obama’s enemies is right here:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/pants-fire/
It’s a list of “pants on fire” lies told to you and by you in the MSMedia. It’s a long list featuring well known pols McCain, Clinton, Biden and a bunch more. Not a SINGLE “pants on fire” lie was told by Obama. Not one. There are Dems and Repubs listed, but not BHO.
Check it out.
51. js | August 22nd, 2008 at 6:25 am
strange how much hearsay is included to debunk everthing about obama that the DNC regards as negative….except as they spin thier lies through the web of deciet, the truth is still as solid as it ever was…and in the end all the “truth o meter” and “pants on fire” is, is a juvenile attempt at whitewashing over the truth with half truth and omission….
check it out!!
52. Danish Artist | August 22nd, 2008 at 7:12 am
Thrower:
“Personal wealth isn’t a problem if you forge a connection with people who are less fortunate Neo. Both FDR and JFK were blue bloods who succeeded in doing it. So far McCain hasn’t.”
—————-
There was an article recently in the Wall Street Journal on Cindy McCain, John’s wife. All I ever saw was this attractive woman standing beside John. I was surprised how talented and involved with world problems she is. This is a summary of the article. She graduated from Southern Cal and was a special-needs teacher.
After her Dad died she became involved with his beer distributing firm and is now the chairwoman. Sales have doubled since she has taken over from her father.
They have a marriage prenuptial agreement, her assets remain separate.
She is involved around the world clearing land mines - travels to these countries on a detonation team and service on their board.
They have a 19 year old serving in Iraq, another son in the Naval Academy, a daughter recently graduated from Columbia Univ., an adopted daughter in high school, and a son who is the finance guy at the beer firm.
Raised kids in Phoenix, Az rather than Washington DC. (better atmosphere) He commuted.
In 1991, Mrs. McCain came across a girl in an orphanage in Bangladesh. The couple adopted the girl who has had a dozen operations to repair her cleft palate and other medical problems.
They have a Family Foundation for children’s causes.
She’s active with “Halo Trust” - to clear land mines, provide water and food in war ravaged and developing countries.
She will join an overseas mission of “Operation Smile”, a charity for corrective surgery on children’s faces. She has had two back surgeries and became addicted to pain killers. She talks openly about it which she says is part of the recovery process.
———-
I’m surprised the media is so quiet about her attributes. They have tired to discredit John MCCain because of his wife’s wealth; looks as if she knows how to put money and time to use in many good causes. What a novel thought to have such a fine person as “First Spouse” She sounds more capable than Hillary or Obama. We would really get two for the price of one. A person with business and international experience. John did work for the firm for awhile when he left the Navy. She, however, has the real business experience. Very interesting.
Thrower…….swing and a miss! Try a different talking point.
53. Fredrick Schwartz | August 22nd, 2008 at 7:40 am
The Abramoff thing and Rezko are not even in the same Universal Scale of Corruption. Your article choice was making good points until they tried to trivialize the biggest government corruption scandal since Teapot Dome. However, since I believe in affirmative action, in this case for a person who cannot think rationally but only ideologically, I’ll keep you on the blogroll.
Okay let’s grant that Tony Rezko is a crook and has been involved in shady crap for the better part of the last decade and a half as it relates to politics in Illinois and especially Chicago. He gave Obama a sweet deal on a piece of land because he saw the junior Senator for Illinois as a guy that was “going places.” I’m still on board.
So what do you do with an Obama whose worst taint of corruption is the purchase of an alley at a reduced price from a corrupt smoke filled room guy who knows how to spell b-r-i-b-e-r-y? How do you balance this with the corruption that is in the White House currently? Safavian, Libby, Allbaugh, Carpenter, Federici, Griles, Heaton, Rudy, Scanlon, Stillwell, Volz Zachares all have plead guilty in the Abramoff case. Grover Norquist, Susan Ralston, Gail Norton, Ralph Reed and Lou Sheldon will likely get served on the day after the inauguration no matter who the next president is. One of that lot is going to “tell everything.”
I think this comes from having a huge elephant in a room eating peanuts that you cannot talk about. The elephant here is race. That’s what is being used subtly to tear down Obama as a candidate. That’s rational McCain’s people would be fools if they didn’t play on white America’s distrust of people not like them. This is politics and politics ain’t bean bag. The danger here is that the electorate that wants to hear something positive and real in regard to their current economic situation and the nation’s current geopolitical situation.
I have written quite a bit about Rezko and Obama and their relationship and I see where there could be a quid pro quo circumstantially but not legally. Legally, there was no more evidence pointing to Dick Cheney in the Valerie Plame outing than there is pointing to Obama being in Rezko’s “pocket” for a land deal.
Now if there’s a sex scandal involving Obama and a white woman lay the cards down and take the pot and I’ll get up from the table and go back to writing about the new landscaping around the Imperial Residence here in Dis. If not the boys at the RNC will just have to keep coming up with new and different ways to call Barack Obama a “Communist Muslim Nigger” without calling him a Communist Muslim Nigger.
The same applies to McCain. If there’s no corruption scandal tied to him or his wife then this will be a fun race down to the wire. This means the boys and girls at the DNC will have to come up with new ways to call McCain and Out of Touch Politician of Yesterday Owned by Lobbyists by screaming it louder and with more conviction.
Di lojti strixiûç!
54. Magnum Serpentine | August 22nd, 2008 at 7:40 am
Mark,
Thats not the issue. The Issue is that McSame has 7 homes when tens of millions of citizens are loosing their home. And what about the homeless Vets? While many vets are living in the street, McSame is relaxing in one of his many homes. McSame can buy a lot of homes for the Vets at 82000 dollars each. The Thing about racketeering is only designed to draw attention away from this sinister issue of McSame. I do have a solution to this situation. Drop McSame and instead make Mayor Rudy Giuliani the President elect.
55. Sarah Bloch | August 22nd, 2008 at 7:50 am
52. Danish Artist | August 22nd, 2008 at 7:12 am
For once we agree in part.
Cindy McCain is a compassionate and brilliant woman who has bounced back from some of hero darker problems with the stress of running a statewide beer distributorship, a family distant from her husband and just being as modern woman to be a real role model for young women and girls. And of course it never hurts to be born into wealth.
That aside it isn’t beyond the pale to assume that there are a few secrets in her portfolio that Cindy Mccain doesn;t want anyone to know about. I coluld say this about everyone in America that has a net worth equal to Cindy McCain.
In the end if she were running for president I would think that mattered and I might even still vote for hyer because I think she is a brilliant woman that could likely do a better job than either of the men running. I think Michelle Obama would make a better president than her husband too and given my choice between Cindy or Michelle I would have to see them debate each other and then I would decide what whose policy served me best.
56. phnx | August 22nd, 2008 at 7:57 am
This is a non issue.
The really important thing to the electorate will be how they each manage the PEOPLE’S money.
http://poligazette.com/2008/03/14/obamas-earmarks/
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/13/20101/1807
Earmarks for each candidate:
John McCain during 20 years in the Senate: $0
B. Hussein Obama: 544,007,831 in earmarks in just two years!!
57. kmg | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:03 am
McCain not only can’t remember how many houses they own, he also can’t remember how they got their adoptive daughter.
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/08/20/watchdogs-make-it-harder-for-politicians-to-stretch-the-truth/
58. Kahn | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:10 am
Thrower, JFK was sleeping with an East German spy and brought the world closer to nuclear annihilation than any other person.
59. Pain | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:22 am
50. congressive | August 22nd, 2008 at 4:39 am
A fact that needs to be faced is the need of anyone facing Barack Obama in this election to lie about him, his heritage or his policies. Why have We seen no chain e-mails about John McCain? Why was there such outrage when he was implicaqted with a female lobbyist? Why was Phil Gramm sent packing after calling American consumers “whiners?” These things are true and they stick. The farther the average voter has to stretch to understand the nature of each and every Obama smear the more black marks are exposed on the side of the RNC.
60. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:32 am
Instead of convincing us how Obama will help grow the economy, secure the nation, deal with the borders and unite our country, our resident liberals have devolved in the same old vitriol for McCain that was previously directed at Bush.
Proving once again that they have no ideas, no solutions and no vision, only hatred for that which they disagree with and/or can not understand. What is ironic is that the rabid and mindless support for Obama from the likes of spiteful liberals is the very reason why most of America is having second thoughts about him.
McCain will win this election easily.
61. Jeremiah | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:35 am
49. thrower | August 22nd, 2008 at 3:19 am
Thrower,
Who is connected to someone who has stated that he in fact ‘hates’ America. And on top of that, says, “Barack knows what means to be a black man, livin’ in a country controlled by rich, white, peeeeople.
And then ask yourself … is this proclaiming to be a force for “hope” and “change” really the man we are looking at?
It seems to be that Mr. Obama has welded himself to defeat! Yet, he’s wants us to think he’s a man for “hope” … when in reality, he is the farthest thing from it. Just like a slick lawyer who will work around his TRUE motives in order to win his case.
HaHaHa!
62. Fredrick Schwartz | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:38 am
“Thrower, JFK was sleeping with an East German spy and brought the world closer to nuclear annihilation than any other person.”
58. Kahn | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:10 am
From the Federal Bureau of Investigation, as opposed to the Free Republic.
“Ellen Rometsch was the wife of Rolf Rometsch, a West German Military aide assigned to Washington, D.C. Mrs. Rometsch arrived in the U.S. on April 6, 1961. She was investigated on an internal security threat, as it was reported that she came from East Germany. The investigation finally determined that Mrs. Rometsch did not pose an internal security threat. In 1963, Mrs. Rometsch was living in Germany, possibly in Bonn.”
JFK slept with many many women and while this could be the topic of a completely different thread, it didn’t lead to him divulging any secrets to the East Germans or anyone else. You’ve said a bushel basket of stupid shit since I’ve been coming here but this one qualifies you for the “Special Treatment.” Do you believe everything that Hannity or some freeper says? Do you have a mind of your own where you coluld possibly see that those with right wing worldviews actually make mistakes and are not worthy of your worship?
No by that statement you are nothing more than a fool who wants to repeat what they know are lies to make a political point. Try some facts sometime asshat it will at least give some weight to that high school diploma of yours.
Mein gott in Himmel was für eine dumme
Kopf !
63. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:39 am
Pain,
I will refer you to an earlier statement of yours.
“·84. Pain | June 22nd, 2008 at 9:54 am
Do We feel superior to white American Christians?
Sure considering that We are smarter, wealthier, and can multilocate We, Ourselves of the Collective feel that means We are in many ways “superior.”
So, if your Collective brain trust is so enlightened and superior, why isn’t Obama just walking away with this election irrespective of anything McCain is doing? Why is Obama unable to deliver his “superior” message? Why are they unable to connect with those they intend to “help”.
So many questions, so many deflections.
64. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:44 am
“No by that statement you are nothing more than a fool who wants to repeat what they know are lies to make a political point.” - Frederick
LMAO. Freddy darling, you are the King of Fools, and couldn’t think your way out of a paperbag. You are simply the product of your inferior education delivered to you by puppet masters that were even more ignorant.
Conservatives are superior to you in EVERY conceivable way and you will forever ride the rails of inferiority.
Have a collectively hellac day
neocon
65. Sarah Bloch | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:48 am
60. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:32 am
Here’s a quote for you then neocon since you feel that Wall Street and big business are so important to the GOP and their plans for the American future and only the poor and unwashed want to support Liberal/Progressive government,
“I like John McCain as a person, but Barack [Obama] will be better for America.”
Oh you want to know who said it? One of my favorite business people, The Oracle of Omaha, Warren Buffet. And by the way he’s the richest man on Terra.
So there’s one guy who has a bit of credibility who thinks Obama will be strong on the economy.
I hear Wilford Brimley feels the same way about McCain. Whose watch did this collapse take place on? Wasn’t there a GOP Congress and a GOP White House when this mortgage spiral and foreclosure surge began? It was right before Katrina wasn’t it? Funny how conservative presidents always tend to do more harm than good to the US economy. Well it’s funny if you are rich and have hedged; not funny if you are middle class at all.
66. js | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:52 am
53. Fredrick Schwartz | August 22nd, 2008 at 7:40 am
“The Abramoff thing and Rezko are not even in the same Universal Scale of Corruption.”
ya sure right
please, document the rezko corruption…remember…just because its hidden doesnt mean it does not exist….and obama is not a credible source…he is lying about this through omission…much like you are…so get busy and produce the evidence that obama refuses to present…like his office’s records for the last 6-8 years before he bought the house…or do you accept some pie in the sky excuse that they didnt keep any and normal government policy….like a stooge?
67. Fredrick Schwartz | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:54 am
64. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:44 am
Yep conservatives are superior liars, cheats, sexual predators, adulterers and bribe takers than any Liberal ever was in history. Also they do not do too well when it comes to facing their faults. So you got me there Neocon.
Nice to see you’ve been reading your Mein Kampf every night right after your selected Bible passage. I guarantee my education is far more useful to me in my job than your education is to you in yours. At least I was taught at Fordham not to believe what I was told by my so called “betters.” I was taught to challenge authority and make rational decisions. But that’s fine keep waving the flag and hoisting the foam finger pal because all that is going to get you is deeper in debt and we all know debt is far more dangerous than politics or ideology.
I concede you are a far more superior person than I am, for right now but one day you’ll be where I am now and you’ll wish you were a little less egotistical. Enjoy it while it lasts buddy; chew your food slowly and get eight hours sleep every night.
68. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:57 am
Wow Sarah,
You convinced me. One person, Warren Buffet, has endorsed Obama and you hold that up as proof that he is best for America.
Are you seriously that stupid?
Then of course you devolve into propaganda, not a surprise. However if in fact America was in the bleak and dire situation you that so desperately advocate, why doesn’t Obama have a double digit lead? Are middle class Americans unable to determine what’s best for them?
Obama, and you, are political lighteights, and have little understanding of how the world works. You will always be an inferior, confused and negative minion of those that want to “help” you.
Have a hellac day
neocon
69. nocoen | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:01 am
neocon, Matt “I stay out of the adult conversations” Margolis started a thread that didn’t say how McCain was going to grow the econonmy, secure the nation, or anything else; but instead attacked Obama in the same way he and the five conservatives here attack the Clintons.
Using your logic I must assume this can only mean that you and Matt have no ideas, no solutions, no vision, only hatred for that which you disagree and cannot understand.
Are you really unable to see the rampant hypocrisy in everything you say hear?
70. gotbrains? | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:02 am
McCain’s new economic plan video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PfSEtiXPw
After all, what are Americans whining about? If you want to make it in this country, all you have to do is marry your rich mistress (fat current wife be damned!).
Now, does Mr McCain want to continue following the dictates of the Bush/Rove smear merchants he’s hired onto his campaign? Or does he want to get back to an “honorable” campaign, like he said he was going to do? We would applaud the latter - but if McCain wants to do the former, then, to quote Mr Bush, we say “Bring it on”.
Obama is not John Kerry. If you insist on slandering and smearing Obama, he’s going to hit back hard and often. And considering McCain’s very long (and I do mean looooong) past, I don’t think this is the road he wants to go down.
To you ninnies (read: neocon) who are suggesting that hitting McCain hard just shows that we have no ideas or solutions, let me just say that’s a load of crapola. It was Mr McCain who first went down this path. I know you are used to democrats not answering back when you shamelessly slime them - but we’re here to tell you we’ll give as good as we get.
And if McCain wants to resurface from the muck and instead talk about issues, we’ll be happy to do the same - because on the issues, we own your arses.
71. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:03 am
Frederick darling,
At least you have conceded the obvious, conservatives are indeed superior in every way to your brethren.
I think though that John Edwards has now set a new standard for “lying” and “adultrey”.
If you were taught to make rational decisions, why are most of your decisions so irrational. It appears that Fordham education was all for naught.
I will never be where you’re at Freddy. I am a seasoned, experienced American that has enjoyed financial, familial and spiritual success and I only hope that one day, you’ll be where I am at.
have a hellac day
neocon
72. Fredrick Schwartz | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:07 am
66. js | August 22nd, 2008 at 8:52 am
Okay first off you just stepped on a mine js. Don’t move I’ll help you with this. Does the lack of visibility of the Rezko corruption, the part I can’t see apply to what many reporters and researchers here feel is a pattern of hidden corruption in the Bush administration? Is there a clear double standard separating what MIGHT have happened between Rezko and Obama and what we KNOIW happened between Cheney and the heads of the six largest energy companies in the world?
What Obama did in the Illinois legislature is a matter of public record unlike the transcripts or tapes of the Cheney energy meetings. I wasn’t aware the US Attorney in Chicago had subpoenaed Obama’s “records” for the Rezko trial. If they had I am sure he would have turned them over or the research staff for the AUSA Chicago would have found them in the Library in the Illinois State Building a few blocks from their own office.
What they will find are the same notes and documents about the Cottage View terrace project that has been turned into a false flag scandal operation by the RNC. Payback ikn p;olitics is a bitch and October has 31 days js.
73. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:08 am
I believe our “collective” minions are losing their patience.
You all know that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery right?
I can understand your frustration though. In a year when all you had to do was show up and breathe to win, you guys have blown it again.
I guarantee a McCain win.
74. Fredrick Schwartz | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:13 am
71. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:03 am
I’ll save you a seat in the best bar in Hell and you can just keep sippin scotch and telling me “I had no idea.” The drinks are on me it will be my pleasure.
Edwards yeah that’s sad but I’m glad Axelrod leaked that story to the Natty Ink BEFORE the convention than when he leaks the McCain stuff after the Ides of September. Oh I don’t know about a waste of education I had my share of blond blue eyed gals who were fond of horizontal dancing with a nice jewish boy as long as daddy didn’t find out to make the learning part a good time.
75. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:13 am
gotbrains,
Obama is a joke, a charlatan, a political lightweight. Of all the mindless liberal candidates for POTUS; Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry, Obama will be the most easily defeated.
I encourage you to “hit” back, but the fact is you nominated a flyweight to contend for the heavyweight championship.
McCain has superior experience and superior ideas. It wont even be close.
76. gotbrains? | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 am
neocon -
“I guarantee a McCain win.”
Care to put your money where your mouth is? If so, I want a piece of that action.
77. Pain | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:16 am
“I believe our “collective” minions are losing their patience.
You all know that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery right?
I can understand your frustration though. In a year when all you had to do was show up and breathe to win, you guys have blown it again.
I guarantee a McCain win.”
73. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:08 am
The morning after the election will you be here to answer why your prediction was wrong? Or will you be as absent as water in the desert?
78. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:16 am
Frederick,
Your sexual prowess is well documented, unfortunately so is your lack of intelligence.
Good to know that you believe in good and evil though, but I guess it shouldn’t be a surprise that you again made the wrong decision there too.
have a collectively mindless day
neocon
79. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:18 am
I don’t need your Burger King paycheck gotbrains?.
80. Fredrick Schwartz | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:24 am
In a way I hope McCain does win so I can throttle him inot apoplexy for every gaffe he makes and when the inevitablke happens and American lives are lost again to terror attacks I can act like a right wing ass and point at him shouting, “You didn’t protect the American people!” This is exactly what the right wing prays for every day if Obama is elected that a bomb will go off somewhere and they can blame it on the President.
But you guys know what your great Christianist Authoritarian experiment FAILED. You had all three branches nearly and what did you accomplish. Millions of foreclosures, a negotiated deal with a proto nuclear North Korea who was supposed to be as evil as Iraq and Iran. A war for profit in iraq that has cost the lives of over 4 000 American soldiers. Gay marriage is recognized in three states and could be in as many as 20 in the next two presidential terms. Abortion is still legal in all 50 states even though restrictions have been placed on it in many. Virtually every initiative to get Christian religion into government has been rejected for Progressive and Secular law that allows the freedom of ideas to flourish.
Aside from the fact that no buildings have been blown up in the US by al Qaeda, which is an amazing acheivement, can the Bush administration point to what it has done other than making the rich richer by lowering their taxes?
And you guys think Barack Obama could do worse? I need to be smoking a doubloe of whatever brand of crack you guys use.
81. Fredrick Schwartz | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:27 am
Good and evil neocon is all about subjectivity. We have a saying here, “Hell is what you make of it.” Very true my friend very true. The times they are a changing.
82. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:38 am
Frederick,
Your assertion that we hope to impose a Christian Authority simply highlights the ignorant dementia from which you operate.
You really have little grounding in reality and I can only hope that age and experience will open your eyes a little. If you are as enlightened as you claim, start to objectively analyze the conservative position. You may, after awhile, realize the truth.
I do wish you well
neocon
83. js | August 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 am
geez frederick, you missed the point so badly ill just dismiss your rant as an admission of your own ignorance….its a common thing in your posts…to run off on some tangent to avoid a direct answer…because you just dont have the courage to admit the truth….
itmustsucktobeyou
84. nanoon | August 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 am
Shocking, neocon not willing to back up his guarantee. Talk is cheap, but it is obviously all you can afford.
85. js | August 22nd, 2008 at 10:40 am
“I was in the state Senate for eight years,” Obama said. “I had one staff person, that was what was allocated. I don’t have archivists in the state Senate. I don’t have the Barack Obama State Senate Library available to me, so we had a bunch of file cabinets. I do not have a whole bunch of records from those years. Now, if there are particular documents that you are interested in, then you should let us know…As I said, I didn’t have the resources to ensure that all this stuff was archived in some way…it could have been thrown out.”
You talked about Senator Clinton having records released from the Clinton Library regarding her experience as first lady, and yet when you were asked about, “What about eight years in the state senate of Illinois,” you said, “I don’t know.” Where, where are the—where are your records?
Obama replied that “every single piece of information, every document related to state government was kept by the state of Illinois,” but that other records do not exist.
That is a pretty convenient situation when questions of his dealings with shady businessman Tony Rezco comes into play. In fact, it is pretty convenient all around when it comes to who Obama met with and who he dealt with while in state government.
White House hopeful Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who is making government transparency a centerpiece of the latest phase of his campaign, does not always practice what he preaches when it comes to his own business
Obama’s Missing Records - What’s wrong with this picture? This is someone running for President. We deserve to know.
1. Occidental College records – Not released
2. Columbia College records – Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper – “not available”
4. Harvard College records – Not released
5. Selective Service Registration – Not released
6. Medical records – Not released
7. Illinois State Senate records – “not available”
8. Illinois State Senate schedule – “not available”
9. Law practice client list – Not released
10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – Not released
11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth – Not released
12. Harvard Law Review articles published – None
13. University of Chicago scholarly articles - None
freddy you really gotta be an obama stooge here…you feign ignorant so much you are actually ignorant to your image…
86. js | August 22nd, 2008 at 10:44 am
Barack Obama wrote his senior thesis at Columbia University on Soviet nuclear disarmament. Inquiring people have sought a copy of this thesis to no avail. Columbia says it cannot be found; Barack Obama says he lost it.
funny, this is a guy that wants to be the leader of the free world, and he cant even keep track of his senior thesis, let alone, explain the huge gap of documentation that exists from when he worked with a known felon, Rezko….
just like they didnt have anything on clintons sexual abuse history during two other campains…the DNC is really good at one thing, for sure….
lying to americans…
87. yekepyt | August 22nd, 2008 at 11:07 am
neocon,
When I pointed out that the issue was McCain’s apparent forgetfulness and inability to think or concentrate, you asked why I was not discussing the issues.
But John McCain’s level of dementia would seem to make him unfit for office, and that definitely IS an issue in this campaign.
Have a nice day . . .
88. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 11:23 am
gotbrains?
Right. Keep thinking that. Will see how well that plays in November.
McCain has probably forgotten more things than you have ever known.
89. neocon | August 22nd, 2008 at 11:26 am
I meant yek….
90. js | August 22nd, 2008 at 11:33 am
but isnt “i cant recall” the mantra from obama’s camp? is that an altzhiemers symptom?
91. sue | August 22nd, 2008 at 11:35 am
“But John McCain’s level of dementia would seem to make him unfit for office, and that definitely IS an issue in this campaign.”
LOL. So the definition of “dementia” is not knowing how many “homes”one has, which include investment properties ones wife owns.
Funny, Senator McCain was very clear on what his positions were and answered the questions very straightforewardly at Sattleback, whereas Senator Obama couldn’t answer hardly a single question in a straightforeward manner so his position on topics were clear.
Considering the number of times Obama goes off on a tangent and can’t and/or doesn’t answer a question it’s more likely he has dementia.
You libs don’t fool anyone when you claim that McCain is senile or has dementia. It just makes you look desperate.
92. gotbrains? | August 22nd, 2008 at 11:36 am
88. neocon
“McCain has probably forgotten more things than you have ever known.”
Yes, the things McCain has forgotten could fill volumes.
93. Rich | August 22nd, 2008 at 11:44 am
“If Obama did something illegal, bring charges. Otherwise it is old news.”
Thrower- Do you fail to see the logic in this post of yours? You say that if Obama did something illegal bring charges, then you go on to say “By using an old relationship to impugn Obama’s character, McCain opens up his own past to similar scrutiny.”
You believe that Obama did nothing illegal because he has had no charges brought against him, so the issue is garbage. Then in the next breath you believe that the Keating 5 scandal should tar and feather McCain, in which McCain was never convicted of a crime. So which way do you want to have it Thrower, you cannot have your cake and also eat it?
94. gotbrains? | August 22nd, 2008 at 11:44 am
91. Sue
“LOL. So the definition of “dementia” is not knowing how many “homes”one has, which include investment properties ones wife owns.”
No, actually, I don’t really care that much that Mr McCain has so many properties thru his wife that he needs to consult his staff to tally them. But I get a little uncomfortable with a 72 year old man wants to be president when he can’t remember who the Sunni and Shi’a are without Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman correcting him, and when he can’t remember that Czechoslovakia hasn’t been a country for 15 years, and when he can’t remember that Pakistan and Iraq never ever shared a border.
And these kinds of geo-political basics are supposed to be McCain’s strong suit? Yikes.
95. js | August 22nd, 2008 at 11:50 am
same old lame tactic…when you are getting your butt kicked, change topic’s, right gotnobrains?
96. Nevada Pundit | August 22nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
It is so unbelievable that people are buying into this as an issue. Can anyone out there name me a president that wasn’t rich prior to taking office? Been a while hasn’t it. Obama made $4million last year, about 60 times what I made and about 90 times the national average. He lives in a $1.65 million dollar mansion that was discounted $300k and he had to have his friend Rezko buy an adjoining lot, not the home for the average American.
Is Obama as rich as McCain? No, but neither one would have trouble getting into the country club.
As for “not remembering”, do you really think that McCain lives in all of these house? Many of these houses are lived in by family members or they are for investment. Nothing that McCain deals with on a daily bases. Why would he want to give an Obama answer and make something up when he would rather make sure the right answer was given?
97. Rich | August 22nd, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Obama does not forget things like how many states there are because of dementia, it is because of all that crack he smoked when he was younger.
98. yekepyt | August 22nd, 2008 at 1:10 pm
I listened to McCain’s response. Had he said, “my wife and I own a lot of properties, some as investments, but I divide my time between two primary residences” or some type of clear, “straight talk” answer, this would be a non-issue. (Also, the “you’re not rich until you make $5m per year” isn’t helping the old git, either).
The man reminds me of my grandfather as his dementia was setting in. And this isn’t the first time that McCain seemed to be suffering from dementia, either.
Just watch McCain as he forgets borders, forgets country names, forgets which groups are supposedly sneaking across the Iranian border for bad-guy training. I mean, really watch his face, and pay attention to his body language as he stammers and stumbles through his statements. He’s very much the confused old man in the making.
Ask yourself, “is this guy all there?”
If you answer honestly, then you’d have to agree that McCain is a disaster waiting to happen.
99. Xavier Cugat | August 22nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
If you guys love McCain so much, you should have voted for him back in 2000 while he still was cogent.
But no, your Bush team was busy smearing him for fathering a black child.
And here’s the issue with the gaffes. You guys point to Obama slipping and saying there were 57 states. You know he knows how many states there are. But when McCain says Iran is training Al Qaeda, I don’t think it’s a slip of the tongue; he doesn’t know the facts behind a) the most critical national security issue of our time, and b) NATIONAL SECURITY is supposedly his strength.
McCain’s time has passed. He’s out of touch and clueless. He’s intemperate and rash. Combine ignorance with a tendency towards anger, that’s a dangerous combination to put in charge.
Oh, but wait, he was a POW. How dare I judge him so harshly. I take back everything I said.
100. Kahn | August 22nd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I’m sure McCain hasn’t forgotten the extreme physical torture inflicted by Vietnamese leftists. I’m sure he thinks about them all the time.
But hey, Obama has nightmares about that one ounce he bought that had all those damn seeds in it.
101. yekepyt | August 22nd, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Hey Kahn,
Using Bush’s definition, McCain wasn’t tortured — just “aggressively interrogated.”
102. Xavier Cugat | August 22nd, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Rich,
It’s quite simple. The difference between the Rezko issue and the Keating 5 issue is that Obama hasn’t been accused, implicated, censured, indicted or convicted of any crime.
McCain, on the other hand, has. Yes, it was a long time ago, but he hasn’t learned from his mistake. His campaign staff is chock-full of lobbyists. You can’t parse his actions from “McMavericky” straight-thinking vs. being bought off.
Every election is getting so tiresome. You can’t win on ideas, so you dream up smears and fearsro. There’s an “Obama death list” now floating about the internet. And 70% of the list are people that Hillary and Bill supposedly killed back when the list was floated in the mid-1990s.
You wingnuts are some of the most dishonorable people I’ve ever witnessed.rout
103. Mark Noonan | August 22nd, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Xavier,
What gets tiresome is the way you Democrats keep nominating incompetant, inexperienced people you think can BS their way into the White House, and then you get mad at us for pointing out their flaws….
104. yekepyt | August 22nd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
But an obviously senile old man is somehow the right choice for 2008. No flaws there, except he can hardly get anything important right (the borders of Pakistan, the movement of peoples across the Iranian border, that Czechoslovakia is now two separate countries, the number of houses he owns)….
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran… heh, heh, my friends … never mind.
105. Xavier Cugat | August 22nd, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Mr. Noonan,
I confess that my first response was to laugh.
Incompetent? After Bush, you dare use the word incompetent?
You have to admit you’d be in a far better electoral position now if you bastards could govern with a modicum of competence.
Just give me *one* example of a policy well executed by the Bush administration. And don’t say the surge, because even McCain calls the surge “a reversal of our disastrous previous strategy”.
Look, had Republicans nominated McCain in 2000, you may have had my vote. But you chose Bush instead, and you’re now reaping what you sew.
106. js | August 22nd, 2008 at 9:43 pm
“And don’t say the surge”
lol, creatively shaping your little lie i see….
107. js | August 23rd, 2008 at 7:46 am
bill clinton was senile, he couldnt remember how many women he molested!!
more evidence to his mental incompetency; he actually thought he was responsible for balancing the budget; and then he bombed an asprin factory…
and obama must be senile too…he forgot to keep records of his activity with rezko for the last decade before rezko got convicted…and he cant find his senior thesis…or his birth certificate…hmmm….i guess it runs in washington, eh?
108. Danish Artist | August 24th, 2008 at 7:59 am
Senile old men?
i haven’t seen abuse like this towards the likes of Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy. Instead, these two individuals are praised by the liberal lemming obamatons.
Amazing, what desperation can do to the mind.
Why is Obama slipping in the polls to the senile old man?
Of course, McCain is either cheating or they are polling senile people.