Obama’s Convention Non-Bounce
September 1st, 2008 at 12:01am Mark Noonan
This has just gotta hurt:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday—the day before the Republican National Convention is scheduled to begin—shows Barack Obama ahead of John McCain by three percentage points both with and without leaners. That’s exactly the same edge Obama enjoyed a week ago on the eve of the Democratic National Convention.
Fireworks, Greco-Roman temple, leg-tingling media coverage…and, nothing.
UPDATE, by Matt Margolis:
Now, I’m not one to give much credence to a poll by CNN, since they always skewed in favor of the Democrats, but when a CNN poll shows that Barack Obama got no bounce from the convention, then that is noteworthy.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Sunday night shows the Obama-Biden ticket leading the McCain-Palin ticket by one point, 49 percent to 48 percent, with the statistical margin of error.
The survey was conducted Friday through Sunday, after both the conclusion of the Democratic convention and Sen. John McCain’s selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.
A previous CNN poll, taken just one week earlier, suggested the race between McCain, R-Arizona, and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, was tied at 47 percent each.
“The convention and particularly Obama’s speech seems to be well-received. And the selection of Sarah Palin as the GOP running mate, also seems to be well-received. So why is the race still a virtual tie? Probably because the two events created equal and opposite bounces assuming that either one created a bounce at all,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
In addition to this poll, Zogby, another typically Democrat-skewed poll, shows McCain ahead, albeit slightly and within the margin of error.
Republican John McCain’s surprise announcement Friday of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate - some 16 hours after Democrat Barack Obama’s historic speech accepting his party’s presidential nomination - has possibly stunted any Obama convention bump, the latest Zogby Interactive flash poll of the race shows.
The latest nationwide survey, begun Friday afternoon after the McCain announcement of Palin as running mate and completed mid-afternoon today, shows McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.
This is seriously bad news for Obama. And we’re starting to see the same thing we see in these polls be reflected in the Gallup Daily Tracking poll, which had Obama up by 8 yesterday, and 6 today.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, DNC08, Democrats, RNC08, Republicans
33 Comments
1. Kahn | September 1st, 2008 at 12:18 am
Well, in a sense - he DID get a bounce. He’d be behind without the convention.
People don’t like being “played”. And the liberal elite is all about personal attacks and hiding their true intentions. America is sick of it.
Now, I fully expected to lose the White House this fall. Our party fell down on the job on several imporatnt matters. But then the Democrats nominate the empty suit Ted Baxter Obama and a blowhard ultra-liberal. It’s a gift.
2. Nate | September 1st, 2008 at 12:26 am
Deleted - off topic.
3. kimberly4victory | September 1st, 2008 at 1:24 am
Poor Nate.
4. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | September 1st, 2008 at 1:47 am
Nate-
They don’t want to talk about McCain because he’s about as interesting as watching paint dry and they know it. You have to feel sorry for them really.
5. Kahn | September 1st, 2008 at 2:20 am
NIP, hey run over to KOS and attack little girls if you don’t like it here. Or just pound sand, your choice.
6. Danish Artist | September 1st, 2008 at 5:46 am
NIP,
I’ll talk about McCain. A man praised by liberals as a maveric, a man who speaks the truth, a man that thwarted the evil Bush and a true reform candidate. His VP pick is a lady who has investigated and stopped corruption in her home state, a lady with executive experience well suited for VP and a fresh faced person with no ties to the Washington insiders - just what a reform candidate needs for their reform plank.
Too bad Obama moved away from his fresh non-Washington beltway insider image he presented early on. It is becoming known that as a typical Chicagoan politician, he has done what was necessary to win his elections, had the proper associations to allow his advancement in Chicago politics and his lack-luster part-time Senate career has nothing to show for it but a few pieces of legislation he managed to piggy-back his name on.
The one piece of reform legislation that he could have his name on, WITH JOHN MCCAIN, he backed out in favor of a politics as usual legislation offered by the inside the beltway democrats.
CNN has the Chosen One up by ONE POINT after the Democratic Clinton Convention and Rock Concert and before the Republican convention starts.
Pass the popcorn, this is going to be fun to watch the leftists melt down in the coming weeks. They have already started by attacking Sarah Palin’s daughter as the alleged mother of the baby based on no evidence. This is a tactic that Obama himself said he would not do nor endorse (I know he is not behind it - but I don’t see him asking his supporters not to participate in these tactics), but we have seen his share of political attack ads.
Liberals are becoming more and more desperate. We will see them implode and lose another election again. Fewer and fewer are accepting the crap the leftists are shoveling.
7. WhatChange | September 1st, 2008 at 8:48 am
Reporting from St. Louis, uh,er, uh, you know, I mean , yea sweetie, you’re right, uh, Kansas City.
Hope and Change. Bitter and Mean.
Bevis/Butthead08
8. phnx | September 1st, 2008 at 9:18 am
It only going to get better. As Obama slips further and further in the polls the Dems will begin turning on each other, as they always do. Once again snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory. Thank you Leftists for the entertainment.
9. phnx | September 1st, 2008 at 9:21 am
OBTW: The next four years should also be good ones as Hillary and Obama try to one up each other in an effort to secure the mantle of party leader. It only gets better. LMAO
10. Reagan is Dead | September 1st, 2008 at 9:38 am
The fundies around here are starting to get cocky. Hell, they are even trying to spin a deadly hurricane as a good thing for the GOP. Of course, when challenged to put their money where their mouths are, none of them want to step up. If anyone here wants real political news and punditry, check out fivethirtyeight.com.
11. Retired Spook | September 1st, 2008 at 9:48 am
They have already started by attacking Sarah Palin’s daughter as the alleged mother of the baby based on no evidence.
DA, they do have a photo of her showing a little tummy bulge. Unfortunately for those attempting this despicable smear, the photo appears to have been taken over a year before the baby was born. Besides, walk through any mall, and 90% of the teenage girls you see have a similar tummy bulge, and I doubt they’re all pregnant.
One thing is becoming abundantly clear: the Dems didn’t see this Palin pick coming and weren’t prepared for it, thus the initial attempts to denigrate her were disjointed and unorganized. As was evidenced by the Lefty comments here, which were tame compared to the more left-leaning sites, they just took out their nasty stick and starting swinging it, while throwing buckets of sh*t at the wall, hoping some of it would stick. Still, it only took them about 36 hours to get the organized smear machine in full gear.
Just as a lot of Kerry votes in 2004 were really anti-Bush votes (a lot of Dems didn’t even like Kerry), so this November a lot of normally Democrat and Democrat-leaning voters are going to be so turned off by these repugnant tactics that I suspect they’re either going to stay home or vote Republican. The big question is, how does that translate to other races down ticket? If I were a Democrat, I’d be starting to get a little concerned. Well, actually, if I were a Democrat, I’d probably just shoot myself, but that’s another issue altogether.
12. FmrMarine | September 1st, 2008 at 10:15 am
Kahn/spook
It is amazing, her daughters baby??? WTF
while IGNORING THIS……..
barack Obama Gay Sex and drug use
On January 23rd 2008 on the Jeff Rense radio program, a man named Larry Sinclair made stunning claims about Senator Barack Obama. Sinclair claimed that in 1999 he met Barack Obama and Obama purchased and supplied him with cocaine. Sinclair also claims that he performed a sex act on the Senator and the Senator smoked crack cocaine during the evening.
Sinclair’s claims have been analysed by the controversial forensic technique known as Reverse Speech, the practice of playing speech in reverse to reveal unconscious thoughts of the speaker.
the rats sure the BJ’s & cocaine dont they?
I wonder if hillary ever?????? NA
13. neocon | September 1st, 2008 at 10:30 am
Well, actually, if I were a Democrat, I’d probably just shoot myself, but that’s another issue altogether. - Spook
You always give me a good chuckle following a well written post. Thanks
14. kimberly4victory | September 1st, 2008 at 10:40 am
Ah Neocon, you beat me to it!!
FM: If there was any depth to that rumor, it would be all over the place. But that’s what that was, a rumor.
We cannot stoop low like the liberals.
Besides, we don’t need no stinkin’ rumors to beat the pants off the empty suit.
15. kmg | September 1st, 2008 at 10:45 am
If Mark has any integrity, he will delete FmrMarine’s post #12 as slanderous. We’ll see.
16. kimberly4victory | September 1st, 2008 at 10:48 am
He does and he will, kmg. If Obama has any integrity, he will condemn Fowler’s comments and the dailykos rumor. We’ll see …
17. WhatChange | September 1st, 2008 at 11:06 am
“If Mark has any integrity, he will delete FmrMarine’s post #12 as slanderous. We’ll see.”
Right. 8 years of BDS lies and slanders in 90% of the kook’s posts, FmrMarine post reports the fact of what Sinclair stated which has not been proven true or false, but to a kook it is proven false without evidence to the contrary. Hussein has admitted to using highly addictive crack and he appears very capable of the other.
18. WhatChange | September 1st, 2008 at 11:23 am
kmg–your homophobia is showing. I notice you don’t object to your progressive peers stating McCain had sex with his wife before marriage, but the report of Obama having sex with a man needs to be “deleted” in true progressive freedon of the press. So for the party that supports gay marriage, what is wrong with Obama having sex with another man? Homophobe.
19. kmg | September 1st, 2008 at 11:33 am
WhatChange,
I think you are projecting your own homophobia. It is not about having sex with a man or a woman, it is about slanderous claims that he committed adultery and engaged in drug use in 1999.
But lets look at Palin’s judgement. She was in Texas to give a speech when she was 8 months pregnant with a special needs child. Her water broke, and rather than see a doctor, she went on stage and gave her speech. When she was finished, she didn’t go see a doctor; she took an 8 hour plane ride back to Anchorage. When she arrived, she didn’t see a doctor in the Alaskan city that could provide the best care for her impending birth, but instead drove 45 minutes to her small hometown to deliver. Now that’s judgement you can believe in.
20. Richard of Oregon | September 1st, 2008 at 11:38 am
The polls have been remarkably stable for a long time. Many are trying to explain the lack of an expected bump to a nearly equal and opposite bump. Seems to me that the stability is probably due to the fact that more people have made their decision earlier than usual. Might have something to do with the fact that this turkey’s been going for 18 months now. The undecideds have hunkered down and are not being swayed by VP picks, conventions and hurricans. What will get them to move? Father Time. Come November the undecided ice berg will melt.
21. kimberly4victory | September 1st, 2008 at 11:53 am
Mark: Please delete the slanderous posts, including kmg #19.
People … let’s stick to the issues, please.
22. kmg | September 1st, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Kimberly,
My post wasn’t slanderous. I stated the facts and gave my opinion that Palin’s actions showed poor judgement.
http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/apr/22/palins-flight-labor-falls-under-scrutiny/
23. WhatChange | September 1st, 2008 at 12:17 pm
kmg, but that is the same child Obama wants to allow killed. But with Hussein, it doesn’t even have to be a special needs child. Any child will do. And so someone is carrying a “child” at 8 months? So you are pro-life?
“she was 8 months pregnant with a special needs child” kmg
Homophobe.
24. kimberly4victory | September 1st, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Those are not facts, kmg.
Photos speak louder than words.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/01/a-picture-refutes-a-thousand-nutcase-conspiracies/
Give it up, kmg, you and your dailykos buddies are toast.
25. kimberly4victory | September 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm
“After wrapping up the speech, Palin and her husband consulted with her physician about possibly flying home on an earlier flight. After being granted permission from her doctor, she and her husband proceeded with the trek home.
At that point, Palin was only having minor contractions and was not showing signs of active labor, Sharon Leighow, the governor’s spokeswoman, said on Monday.
After the baby was born, Palin told her staff members that her experiences from four previous pregnancies made her comfortable with the signs of active labor. She felt that neither she nor her baby were in any danger, and so she flew home as scheduled.”
Let’s see …
1) They consulted their physician.
2) The physician granted them permission.
Dang, you liberals are really grasping at straws.
Next.
26. LiberalNitemare | September 1st, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Geez, its like a liberal cant get a break around here.
They’ve already overcome campaign finance scandals, personal financial scandals, real estate scandals, scandals of association, insulted the aged, insulted veterans, insulted parents of special needs children, insulted women and minitorties in general, exploited disaster victims, not to mention a power struggle based on identity politics.
Now you want to give them grief about a few silly polls that might indicate that the chosen one is losing.
What is you want from them? They are trying as hard as they can!
27. kmg | September 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Kimberly,
I didn’t even mention the question of the child being hers. I assume it is. It is still my opinion that talking to your doctor on the phone is a poor substitute for actually being examined by a doctor. Your opinion is obviously different.
WhatChange,
Provide the quote where Obama stated he wanted to kill Palin’s child.
Moron.
28. WhatChange | September 1st, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I didn’t say Obama wanted to kill Palin’s child, I said any child will do. Liar. Hussein is on record for infanticide.
Moron.
29. WhatChange | September 1st, 2008 at 1:29 pm
“she was 8 months pregnant with a special needs child.” kmg
So which is it? Are you pro life or pro murder? How can one be pregnant with a child?
Pro murder.
30. kmg | September 1st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
“I didn’t say Obama wanted to kill Palin’s child, I said any child will do.”
kmg, but that is the same child Obama wants to allow killed.
Liar.
31. kmg | September 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
At 8 months, it is viable outside the womb. I consider it a child at viability.
32. FmrMarine | September 1st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
K4V
My post was a reproduction of a public story.
Larry Sinclair has personally made the accusation having first hand knowledge of this.
Paula Jones made similar charges, was that a smear?
This is news, this should known and vetted, if it is a smear it is by the man making it,not a smear by me on this post.
go to u tube and watch his public accusation, if is a lie why wasnt sinclair sued?
33. FmrMarine | September 1st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
K4V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvVEzb0edPE&feature=related