Dear Democrats
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:33pm Mark Noonan
You do realise just how entirely screwed you are, don’t you?
UPDATE, Matt Margolis: Robert Bluey calls Palin “The Right’s Next Ronald Reagan”
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, RNC08, Republicans
129 Comments
1. FactCheck | September 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 pm
To get the full comedy of the above statement, imagine the Iraqi Mark Noonan saying it.
2. LiberalMind | September 3rd, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Yeah, I give up.
Hear, Mark, another glass of Kool-Aid.
Hate and petty rhetoric always works.
3. neocon | September 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
This election is over. Palin just spoke directly to every hard working, concerned, family oriented American in this country, and she skewered Obama and the media in the process. Brilliant!!!
This could be a McCain/Palin landlside
4. WhatChange | September 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Looks like we’re back to the election being stolen crap.
5. JPL | September 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
I guess you didn’t watch her speech, “Fact” “Check.”
6. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Fact,
You’re screwed in the sense that even if we lose, we win….all you’ve got is an empty suit who, even if he wins, will fail miserably as President, only to be clobbered in 2012 by a Palin/Jindal ticket…and if we win…man, you got nothin’….
7. GOP4ME | September 4th, 2008 at 12:08 am
It Might Be.
It Could Be.
It is!
HOME RUN!
Man I cannot wait to see Gov. Palin knock the plugs out of Biden’s scalp when they debate. She is so much better than Ol’ Joe and BO it is scary.
I am fired up!
8. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Palin: When the stadium lights go out and the stryrofoam columns are sent back; what’s his plan?
The debate with Biden is going to be fun.
9. FactCheck | September 4th, 2008 at 12:10 am
You’re screwed in the sense that even if we lose, we win
Wow.
You sound scared, Mark Saeed al-Sahaf. Looking at your beloved GOP, I can understand why.
10. LiberalMind | September 4th, 2008 at 12:12 am
If you believe that she has won it for the GOP, then I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you..
The Democrats now know that they are dealing with a vast conspiracy and will respond accordingly.
11. FactCheck | September 4th, 2008 at 12:25 am
I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.
Sarah Palin will buy that bridge, then claim that she didn’t.
12. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 12:26 am
“The Democrats now know that they are dealing with a vast conspiracy and will respond accordingly.”
Sorry liberalasshat, there is no donk response for Palin’s speech tonight….good night.
13. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 12:26 am
Fact,
Keep whistling past that graveyard…we’re on fire in the GOP ranks tonight…
14. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 12:43 am
Sarah makes this American woman EXTREMELY proud!!! Bring on the debate!!
I especially LOVE that most of the speakers at this convention have been giving it to the leftwing media. It will either a) piss them off (okay, that’s a given) or b) make them look at themselves in a mirror and decide to report in a non-bias way - no opinions unless you truly are a commentator - “straight talk” reporting. Okay, I know … winning the lottery is more probable but what the heck.
From one Clinton supporter (will post more tomorrow … too tired):
Wow. Way better than Obama. I called TRUMAN! Did I not? She has a roadmap to the PUMA heart, fo’ real. All the way down to the seal. I LOVE HER! And I almost believe her on John McCain. Hated that Republican pandering from about 9: 56 to 10-something. But whatever. When’s the last time you heard any VP candidate, or Presidential candidate, for that matter, talk REFORM!?!
Confession time: I wish Hillary had defended herself this forcefully.
Trouble posting? Hopefully not a double, triple post …
15. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | September 4th, 2008 at 12:47 am
September 4, 2008
Memo
RE:
TO ALL COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Thanks for your help with the poor and all the work you’ve done to help your fellow Americans but I say
SCREW YOU you useless wastes!!!
Love,
Sarah (Barbie) Palin
Governor Alaska :-)
16. Magnum | September 4th, 2008 at 12:48 am
While Palin is wasting time in Minnesota, the Republican Alaskan legislature is holding Ethics hearings on the corrupt Alaskan Governor and investigating her ties with AIP (After all, her husband is a member so she might be a stealthed member also).
Screwed? No its Palin who is Screwed. the Moment she committed Ethics crimes is when she became screwed. Also, the moment she defeated a well liked Republican Incumbent Governor of Alaska, pissed off the republican party in Alaska that was the moment she got screwed. Palin should return to Alaska and wait until the ethics probe and impeachment trials are over before she campaigns for an office she is not qualified to fill.
17. LiberalMind | September 4th, 2008 at 12:50 am
Mark:
That’s all you did, was fire up the base.
Palin threw out the necessary red meat talking points to the party faithful.
There she was a success.
But did she persuade the women who want the right to choose, the women who are out of work and suffering.
Yeah, the base you have. You barely had them before this. Congrats.
My Republican friends still think the ship is going down, the iceberg has been hit and there is little that can be done.
No doubt you energized the base.
But will this base match the 38 million that watched Obama.
18. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | September 4th, 2008 at 12:50 am
13. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 12:26 am
“Fact,
Keep whistling past that graveyard…we’re on fire in the GOP ranks tonight…”
Yes but unfortunately Mark the crickets are chirping just outside the convention center.
(chirp……chirp)
19. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 12:50 am
You never should have gone after her kids. It was the absolute worst thing you could have done.
You have done more damage than you could possibly imagine. The country is not all rabid Bush haters like you are and you exposed your black hearts. You will not recover from it.
I plan to tie your attacks to Obama every day till the election.
20. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 12:51 am
NIP - liberals are whistling past the landfill.
21. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Magnum
Does the number 80 mean anything to you?
Probably not since it’s Palin’s favorable rating in Alaska…idiot.
22. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | September 4th, 2008 at 12:55 am
Every COMMUNITY ORGANIZER tonight has just been told to go (Expletive Deleted) themselves. OH YES!!!
OH YES!! and THIS is the party of the people!!?
23. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 12:58 am
Magnum - you mean firing the child tasering state cop? Or firing the state police commander for not implementing her policy? THOSE ethics violations?
I mean if you’re going to throw crap then at least know what you’re talking about and be specific.
So um, do YOU think its OK for a state trooper to taser a ten year old boy in fit of family anger? THAT’s what you are defending? Severe child abuse? Thats your banner?
What an idiot. Really, a gold plated idiot.
24. Magnum | September 4th, 2008 at 12:59 am
Navydad,
Did i say anything about the ratings up there in Alaska? No I stated that the Alaskan republican party does not like her.
Back to our regular programming already in progress.
25. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 1:02 am
No NIP. But people who write two books about themselves and think that means they should lead the free world might think twice before voting “present” on every single controversial piece of legislation that come before them.
And he or she may not vote to NOT supply troops in combat with food, fuel, ammunition, and armor. Some idiot “community organizer” may have second thoughts before doing THAT!
By the way, I am a community organizer.
26. Magnum | September 4th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Khan,
An Ethics Violation is an Ethics Violation.
I called for the Demo-Publican who committed Ethics Violations to resign, and I also called for the Alaskan Governor who is also the Community leader hater to resign.
End of story.
27. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Magnum, wellll, ummmmm who do you think makes up the party up there? Martians?
28. cam | September 4th, 2008 at 1:04 am
I did not see the entire speech but Govenor Palin looked and sounded real strong. She definity delivered a great speech, at least initially. Then it started looking more like a string of one liners meant to attack without providing any insight into the Republican platform. It looks like she memorized all of those bumper stickers and 30 second spots real well. So she asks “………………what exactly is their plan?” She asks this without answering what her plan is. So ultimately it looks like you won’t have to be soooooo jealous of the great speeches Obama gives. It looks like you have someone who can give a pretty good speech as well. Time will tell if its real.
29. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 1:06 am
what violation? She had a right to fire the commander for not implementing policy. Right? You an expert on Alaskan state law?
And as to the trooper she wanted fired in a separate episode, he’d just tasered a ten year old kid.
Now, I know that in the Democratic Party world it is OK to make up bullcrap charges to destroy your enemies. Lets see how that flies.
But every time someone brings this up in conversation I’m going to talk about the little kid taser.
30. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 1:11 am
Liberals - we don’t expect to convert YOU. But you attacked her kids. You will not recover from that. We are taking your posts and putting them on billboards. We will tie the Obama campaign to your wildly irresponsible and hate dripping posts and articles. We will not let your attacks go away.
You lost your cools and showed your true selves. You blew your covers. You attacked her KIDS.
You will not be allowed to recover from that.
31. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 1:32 am
Magnum,
I know that Barack “Tony Who?” Obama is getting tougher and tougher to defend, while Senator Joe Biden (D-MBNA) is already indefensible…but to call “troopergate” an ethics violation? Come now - don’t you ever get tired of carrying water for the corrupt losers who run your party?
32. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 1:33 am
NiP,
In a sense, you are correct - Sarah Palin said tonight that outsiders who come in with the presumption that they can organize a community should go jump in a lake. Who asked Obama to organize anyone? Whom did he organize? What did this organization do?
Bunch of worthless, liberal moral exhibitionism, that is all “community organizing” is…
33. cam | September 4th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Kahn,
I guess its possible that someone attacked her kids but I did not see it. Perhaps you just don’t get it. Liberals understand that people are not perfect and that people are usually involved in shades of grey.
When Liberals speak about relativism, conservatives have a conniption. Yet when it is one of your own the spinning begins. You all start looking for a new measuring stick.
What happened to the absolute morals that where defined by the religious right? What happened to no sex outside of marriage? What happened to abstinence training? Why is it ok to criticize others who fail but when one of your own fails, criticism is beyond the pale?
34. Arctic Fox | September 4th, 2008 at 1:36 am
What is most worrying to me, watching the Republican conference, is the inference that they are the USA and nobody else is.
All this chanting “USA! USA!” as if there is a very simple black and white “We are the USA and everyone else hates America” - that’s worrying to me.
Particularly when you see specially edited pieces like Bill O’Reilly’s tonight; interspersing Republicans in the hall (good guys) with violent protesters outside (bad guys) - the message was clear: Republicans good, everyone else bad, with a side inferrence that these violent protesters were “left wing kooks” as the cherry on the top.
Governor Palin performed well, but she is facing much more serious accusations than letting a 17 year old daughter get pregnant. A previous speech to hers contained factual errors, including an error in identifying one of the founders of the Republican party. Sarah Palin delivered a speech that was written and given to her by McCain’s speechwriters. It said lots for the faithful, but little for those who wanted solid policy statements.
And what is MOST telling is not that she is being described as POTENTIALLY a vice president, but that already the Republicans, having claimed they are the USA are now making up the minds of millions of undecided voters.
She may be the vice president. But if she and McCain don’t win the election, then all Republicans are going to end up looking rather stupid, presuming that others will simply obey them without question. We shall have to see what happens.
35. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 1:41 am
AF,
Letting her daughter get pregnant? Geesh, don’t you realise how stupid that statement sounds?
36. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | September 4th, 2008 at 1:41 am
Obama and ALL COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS in this country have been rejected by the Republican Party tonight. Thank you for showing us what your Party is really all about. Let’s get Sarah Palin out there tomorrow morning to give some interviews. Stop shielding her. Let’s see her meet some “community organizers” and tell them to their face just how useless she thinks they are.
37. Joe Bananas in Pyjamas | September 4th, 2008 at 1:42 am
Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche:
You are so sad, that comment looked like a typical comment from the Kos site, typically forged.
38. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | September 4th, 2008 at 1:46 am
39. Joe Bananas in Pyjamas | September 4th, 2008 at 1:42 am
You a “community organizer” or do you have “actual responsibilities”?
39. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 1:47 am
cam,
But the concept that we are unforgiving about sin is only a figment of leftwing imagination…all are sinners, all may be redeemed from sin. Our complaint about you on the left is when you try to say that sin isn’t sin. The young Palin sinned - as a Christian, it is my duty to both note the sin, and then immediately forgive it, using it in future only as a means of instructing other youngsters about the unwisdom of pre-marital sex. Keep in mind, always, that one of the prayers we say every Sunday at Mass is the Lord’s Prayer….”forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us”; unless we forgive - completely and whole-heartedly - we shan’t be forgiven.
You call us hypocrits for saying that pre-marital sex is wrong and then forgiving a person for having pre-marital sex…that isn’t hypocrisy. Hypocrisy would be saying in public that pre-marital sex is a sin while holding in private that it isn’t. You, on the other hand, try to tell us that pre-marital sex is ok…in fact, so ok that we should teach kids how to do it and pass out birth control for them in school. That is what gets under our skin.
40. Joe Bananas in Pyjamas | September 4th, 2008 at 1:53 am
>>>>What happened to the absolute morals that where defined by the religious right? What happened to no sex outside of marriage? What happened to abstinence training? Why is it ok to criticize others who fail but when one of your own fails, criticism is beyond the pale?
This possibly could have to do with the “Motive” of the attack rather than the “genuiness” of the questions by the media and Obama worshippers.
The hypocrisy in breath taking, most in the Left and Media seem to be more obsessed by Palins pregnant daugher ( read none of any ones business)
Than to question Obamas relationship and friendship with a known terrorist.
The facts are clear Obama lied when he said that Ayers was just some one in his neighborhood, he was more than that and we all know this.
But guess what? The media and Obama worshippers are more interested in gutter sniping and mud raking, than to be concerned about the Presidential contenders association with unrepentant terrorists.
I suppose that they are too preoccupied with holding their ankles with boths hands while Obama does his thing with them.
41. Arctic Fox | September 4th, 2008 at 1:54 am
@Mark: You know what I mean. Letting her get pregnant under the legal age of majority. But as I said, that’s their family matter. There are far more damning indictments at her personally, as a mayor and as a governor.
Regardless, my main concern remains the idea that Republicans seem to have convinced themselves that they and they alone ARE the USA. It’s the sort of “them vs us” issue that can lead to irreconcilable differences between different political sides of the same country. That happened before, and there was a war over it. Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself, with Republicans and Democrats turning on one another and firing accusations of “you’re anti-American because you’re in the other party”.
You Republicans often accuse the left of open hatred, but look in the mirror once in a while - just try and imagine where this could lead. It’s still preventable.
42. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 1:55 am
Liberal,
Yep, a fired up base - to go along with McCain’ superior appeal to moderates…not a bad night’s work. But that isn’t why you’re screwed…
You’re screwed because we have a new Reagan - someone who comes from us, speaks our language, is indifferent to leftwing criticism, is charming and personable, who is a “great communicator”…McCain will be a fine President, but we’re already chomping at the bit to get her into the White House in her own right, and follow her up with Bobby Jindal (who is also Reaganesque, while also being a genuine genius in the “egghead” sense of the word). Just as you couldn’t compete with Reagan, you also can’t compete with Palin…she outclasses your side in all respects. You think GW has run rings around you for the past 8 years? Wait till Palin gets a shot at the three ring circus of Washington politics…
43. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 1:58 am
AF,
Your side’s fault, not ours - we extended the hand of national unity after 9/11 and even went and passed laws liberals could never get through while Clinton was President. What did we get in return? Spittle, hatred, lies…and a determination on your part to lose the war, cost what it might.
With all gentleness and love - and I mean really - screw your side; you blew it…you wanted to put politics before country and now you’re just going to have to stew in your own juices while we put country before party, and win the whole ball of wax.
44. cam | September 4th, 2008 at 2:00 am
Mark,
You? Are you talking to me? I said premarital sex is ok? When? Now you are putting words in my mouth or are you just genralizing? Do you figure all Liberals are the same?
And forgiveness??
To say that forgiveness is even close to the forefront of the Religious Right is just laughable. While you yourself may be high on forgiveness. I have never seen it regularly featured from the Religious Right. Condemnation yes, forgivness not likely. I still see people on the Right taking shots a Bill. So much for forgiveness.
45. Arctic Fox | September 4th, 2008 at 2:05 am
Mark,
I’m capturing this page. I will remind you of your words on November 5th if John McCain loses. I will expect a distinct lack of “spittle, hatred and lies”.
46. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | September 4th, 2008 at 2:05 am
45. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 1:55 am
Yep Mark, she got the “Community Organizer” vote in the bag tonight. I’ll give you one thing though, she is Reganesque. Back in the 80’s he told “community organizers” dealing with AIDS and the poor to go to HELL as well.
Oh I can’t wait for her first REAL interview.
47. Mark Noonan | September 4th, 2008 at 2:08 am
AF,
If John McCain loses I’ll just hang out a “Palin/Jinda ‘12″ sign and get ready for the long fight.
Cam,
Don’t quibble with me, you know perfectly well what I meant.
48. LiberalMind | September 4th, 2008 at 2:10 am
Another Reagan?
Lord help us all!
Palin will be exposed exactly as you said, speaking your language.
She is an extremist, intolerant and narrow minded.
Exactly you type.
49. Jeremiah | September 4th, 2008 at 2:14 am
What happened to no sex outside of marriage?What happened to abstinence training?
cam,
Maybe it’s because the law was changed by ACLU lawyers and liberal Supreme Court judges in combination to throw the childrens future out the door.
Maybe that’s why we can’t teach abstinence in school, because it has too much of a ‘Biblical’ overtone to it.
Whenever we cannot separate the material from the immaterial, we are in trouble in this nation, which is the main problem we are having now. The Left has given complete right-of-way to all the immorality that is destroying this country’s future right in our schools.
And just imagine if Obama get’s the nomination, 40 or 50 years will be lost, and future generations will have no guidance.
Our Supreme Court weighs in the balance. God help us if the American people tip the scales in favor of Obama. He will be the ruination of this country.
America will make history in just a few short weeks, 7, if I’m not mistaken. We have an opportunity to save America on Nov. 4.
As I watched Gov. Palin this evening, I seen profound care for all people, inspired by the Truth.
God is giving America this opportunity to see the truth, and to vote accordingly.
God bless!
:)
50. Thrower | September 4th, 2008 at 2:15 am
The community organizer line was a blunder. A lot of good people work in the trenches of inner cities, many of them with faith based groups. I would guess Obama will get a few hundred thousand registrations and votes as a consequence of people reacting to that reference. It might have fired up people who were going to vote Republican in any case, but it sounds patronizing and elitist. It just never pays to disrespect people who might be voters (or become voters). Stay tuned for the backlash.
51. Magnum Serpentine | September 4th, 2008 at 2:37 am
Mark
As I said before I am writing in Hillary Clinton’s name.
I will never vote for someone who is about to be deported depending upon the lawsuit filed against obama. And I will never vote for anyone who committed Ethics Violations. Surely you must be wondering why the Republicans in Alaska is running the investigation of Palin? Its because they Hate her. Sure the common republicans like her but the leaders and staples of the party hate her and thats all it takes. She got the wrong people mad at her.
52. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 3:03 am
“All this chanting “USA! USA!” as if there is a very simple black and white “We are the USA and everyone else hates America” - that’s worrying to me.”
Are you kidding me, Arctic? Now, you are really reaching for the stars. I went to a show recently and they brought out several Iraq War Vets. The whole stadium started chanting “USA!! USA!!” It isn’t a Democrat or Republican thing. It is AMERICANS showing pride in their country.
PERIOD.
53. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 3:08 am
“All this chanting “USA! USA!” as if there is a very simple black and white “We are the USA and everyone else hates America” - that’s worrying to me.”
Are you kidding me, Arctic? Now, you are really reaching for the stars. I went to a show recently and they brought out several Iraq War Vets. The whole stadium started chanting “USA!! USA!!” It isn’t a Democrat or Republican thing. It is AMERICANS showing pride in their country.
PERIOD.
Get over the dailykos and Roland talking points. Republicans do not hate community organizers. The One tried to use that as one of the reasons he was qualified to be POTUS. I’ve been a community organizer and I am more qualified to be POTUS than OB because I have run a business for 15 years. He hasn’t. :-P
54. Dennis | September 4th, 2008 at 3:10 am
Sarah Palin is just about right for Alaska. She has grown up there and knows its people and needs. From the evidence she’s done a good job for her constituents, and it seems most are proud of her.
However on foreign affairs she is a blank slate - even the McCain campaign has said as much. “Obviously the governor of Alaska spends very little time on foreign policy,” campaign manager Rick Davis said yesterday. “No doubt the campaign staff have her hooked up to a fire hose on foreign policy issues,” said Stephen C. Donehoo, managing director of Kissinger McLarty Associates in Washington.
Question is, with a 72-yr old cancer survivor as president does America really want (and can we afford) a complete neophyte a heartbeat away from the most powerful office on the planet? She just flat doesn’t have it in the single most critical area to the presidency. Attentive, independent observation of world events over time, tempered with analytical thought, can’t be made up by a crash course in international relations administered by party hacks.
Sarah Palin is in way over her head now, most Americans who are paying attention know it and even she probably knows it somewhere down inside. The McCain people are just leading her deeper into the water. The best thing that can happen to her now is an Obama win, which will allow her family to return to Alaska with their dignity intact.
I have my problems with Obama, but he was a diligent student of foreign affairs long before he arrived in Washington. No “fire hose” is needed; he has been preparing for the presidency with the same discipline that made him a magna cum laude Harvard law graduate. He has surrounded himself with the best minds to school him on any potential weak spots, and he is an exceptional student. As for executive experience, he has run probably the best-organized and most effective political campign on record - no mean feat, given past Republican routs.
Lastly (and this is the thing that most sticks in the craw of some here) Obama is a born statesman, gifted with natural ability to inspire others. It is something neither Palin nor McCain can lay claim to. Like a musical prodigy or mathematical genius, these things just happen from time to time. It happened with Reagan, and now the lightning has struck on the other side of the aisle. Live with it, allow some healing to happen and commit your best minds to building a new future for your party. What goes around always comes around again.
And be careful - the “you’re screwed” mentality will come back to haunt you. “If it be possible, as much as lies within you, live peaceably with all men.” Romans 12:18
55. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 3:22 am
Here’s a sweet dailykos thread (in the beginning at least) … emphasis is mine:
Palin’s speech was brilliant! (Thank you and I couldn’t agree more!) It knocked me off my chair. (Me, too!) I expected her to crumble (because we were brutal in our endless attacks, spreading rumors about her baby, digging up sexy photos of her to no avail) and instead she show her mettle (eh?); she went on the attack, with a smile.
My fantasy would be to take that speech, and Romney’s, and Giuliani’s, and use it for a political 101 class for these supposedly experienced politicians in the Democratic party, and have them watch them over and over (brainwash them?), and then study every part of the speeches, and then tell them, “Okay, now you’ve learned from the masters, so go ahead and do it.” (Come on, don’t ya know Rove wrote all those speeches? Silly, girl!)
Frankly, I’m sick and tired of the utter show of weakness exhibited by politicians I support; and I support them because I know that they are people of integrity, honesty, intellect, and competence (I beg to differ), and that they will know how to govern and move this country forward. (Again, I really beg to differ!)
But you first have to win, and politics is “contact sports” like Bill Clinton likes to say. (Didn’t you throw his wife under the bus?)
All Democratic operatives part of the Obama campaign should have talking points at all times; they should be poignant, to the point, visceral (you do it for them, so why should they?), and easy to understand.
When they talk about McCain, they should go after every single aspect of his life, including the Keating Five, his running around with women when he was married to his first wife, his opulent lifestyle. (Yeah! Let’s dig up any dirt we can on him, even if we have to make it up.)
They should dig out the other POWs that were with him in Vietnam (dig out?), and who are now critical of him, and they should exploit anything they say–a la swift boat. (Yeah! Let’s have them make up lies about his time at Hanoi. He didn’t get tortured … he had tea and cookies with the enemy).
When “top” Obama advisers talk about McCain and Palin, you should feel their disdain in a very palpable and visible manner. They should allude to his age (uh, his mom is in her 90s and she looks pretty damn good), to alzhimers (a new lie to add to the pile?), to multiple scandals associated with Palin (even if we have to make up more).
They should use the words “traitor” and “despicable” and “unpatriotic” when they mention over and over Palin’s relationship to the Alaskan Independence Party. (Still stuck on that one, eh?)
Sounds to me like they are just a wee bit scared. :-)
56. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 3:31 am
You know, I’m getting sick and tired of all this “he’s 72″ crap. John McCain’s mom is in her 90s, still walks without a cane, and is in pretty damn good shape for her age. My dad is 78 and still skis with me.
Yes, McCain has had cancer, and you noted correctly, he IS a survivor. Melanoma is treatable. It is not life threatening if it is caught early and treated.
I see you missed Rudy’s speech. He nailed it when he talked about Obama’s terrible handling of the Georgia/Russia situation. So … my guess is he wasn’t a very diligent student of foreign affairs.
57. Dennis | September 4th, 2008 at 3:42 am
No, I heard Rudy. He was a cartoon. It is amazing how reliant he was on the credulity of the audience to simply swallow his assertions. Take away his attacks on the Dems and there would have been no subject matter left except for terrorism.
I didn’t really want to be negative in my previous post, but have to say Palin’s speech tonight was noticeably devoid of any policy substance. With the exception of promising to remember special needs children (a nice touch), it all was crafted to elicit emotional appeal, focused on building up McCain’s and her own image.
Of course she took her own laughably cheap shots at Obama, but her speechwriters are party hacks so she can be forgiven that. One of the most embarrassing to herself was the “community organizer” gaffe. By comparing herself with the 20-year old Barack, one can’t help but realize when she was 20, she was parading around in swimsuits.
It will be interesting to see how much if anything of substance actually issues from her personally as the campaign progresses.
58. extramedium | September 4th, 2008 at 4:58 am
Boy - talk about a cult of personality! If I’m McCain and I get elected, I’d be wearing a bulletproof vest when I go out, and not because I think the gunman would be a liberal! You guys are like schoolgirls at a Beatles concert. LOL
She did a nice job at the convention but I’ll remind you - the VP doesn’t normally do much of anything, nor get much media coverage - before or after the election. You’d better be twice as excited about McCain tonight - and I mean for McCain himself, not because he gets to spend time with that dreamy SARAH PALIN - or you still have problems. He’s still the “unnamed Republican” with the Right, the guy nobody wanted in the first place.
59. Brian (Boston) | September 4th, 2008 at 5:14 am
“Bunch of worthless, liberal moral exhibitionism, that is all “community organizing” is…” - Noonan
Maybe if you took an interest in your community and stopped caring only about yourself you would see what community organizers do. My community organizer holds community meetings to discuss issues, everything from the streets to construction projects to crime and then brings them in front of the city counsel and mayor. She got a team together to go house to house to warn people that 2 houses were burglarized a few blocks away. She worked with police to help find information about a hit and run. And she helps organize the block parties!
60. Joe Bananas...in Pyjamas | September 4th, 2008 at 5:44 am
>>>>>I have my problems with Obama, but he was a diligent student of foreign affairs long before he arrived in Washington. >>>>
Of course, with a one trip to Europe band aid concert under his belt and the likes of Ayers as a mentor he has all the foreign affairs experience….”foreign” to the US that is.
61. Joe Bananas...in Pyjamas | September 4th, 2008 at 5:47 am
>>>>It is AMERICANS showing pride in their country.>>>>
Apparently though, the Democrats haven’t realized that there are people out there that don’t worship Obama.
62. clilly | September 4th, 2008 at 5:59 am
Mark - IT’S THE ECONOMY STUPID
63. Purdue Boy | September 4th, 2008 at 6:34 am
As expected…the left is out in full force with vitrol and ignorance. Ahhh Sarah….I think you pinched a few nerves. You go girl !!
64. Willem van Oranje | September 4th, 2008 at 6:48 am
This speech was red raw meat for the conservative fundies.
The rest of America heard a woman being nasty and vindictive. They heard a woman who was not going to bring change to Washington but was going to add the exact same partisanship that has paralyzed Washington.
McCain has in one clear stroke destroyed two of his strongest arguments for the Presidency: having experience and being bipartisan.
Sarah Palin is inexperienced and a partisan pit bull. Nothing more, nothing less.
65. Willem van Oranje | September 4th, 2008 at 6:53 am
And that phony shout out to families with kids with special needs?
She slashed funding for Special Education with 62%.
66. Willem van Oranje | September 4th, 2008 at 7:04 am
Noonan: “we’re on fire in the GOP ranks tonight”
I’m sure you are, Mark, I’m sure you are.
This choice was all about firing up the Base. And sure she did. She did not state one thing on how McCain and she were going to lead the US: nothing on how to fix the economy; nothing on how to fix healthcare; nothing on how they would bring jobs back to America or how people were going to afford their houses and their cars; nothing on how to improve America’s standing in the world; nothing on how to address global warming; nothing on how to address international terrorism; nothing on how to find allies in the world; nothing on how to secure Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security.
You might find yourself elated right now because you found yourself an attack dog. But voters are sick to their stomach of this kind of sniperfire and warfare in trenches. And that is what brings Sarah Palin to the table.
67. WhatChange | September 4th, 2008 at 7:25 am
” By comparing herself with the 20-year old Barack, one can’t help but realize when she was 20, she was parading around in swimsuits.” Dennis the menace
And Barry was on the corner looking for another CRACK fix and probably is tonight, CRACK is highly addictive.
68. js | September 4th, 2008 at 7:38 am
this is a no brainer
a few idiots will cleave to the charismatic but hollow obama
but the DNC just heard a loud noise
it was the rush of wind as millions of voters went out the door…
69. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 8:39 am
cam - you didn’t see it? Go to KOS. Look at old entries here.
YOU don’t get it.
70. Retired Spook | September 4th, 2008 at 8:56 am
AF, Your side’s fault, not ours - we extended the hand of national unity after 9/11 and even went and passed laws liberals could never get through while Clinton was President. What did we get in return? Spittle, hatred, lies…and a determination on your part to lose the war, cost what it might.
With all gentleness and love - and I mean really - screw your side; you blew it…you wanted to put politics before country and now you’re just going to have to stew in your own juices while we put country before party, and win the whole ball of wax.
Mark, I think you spoke for a whole lot of Conservatives with this statement. I had thought about writing something similar last night after the speech, but it would not have been with gentleness and love; not hate either, just disgust.
71. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 8:56 am
clilly - oil is down, the economy grew last quarter. OK, it’s the economy.
And you think the doubling of the tax burden will help? How Lenninesqe of you.
72. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 8:58 am
parading around in swimsuits??? parading around in swimsuits? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
that is the stupidist thing I’ve read here. And thats saying something
73. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 9:09 am
The Palin/Biden debate is going to be fun to watch, no matter which side you’re on. She picked a lot of fights in her speech last night — I am curious to know if she’ll be able to keep up the bravado when the words aren’t written for her and displayed on the teleprompter.
74. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Dennis,
“I have my problems with Obama, but he was a diligent student of foreign affairs long before he arrived in Washington.”
You know what Senator Obama considers is his most important foreign relations experience? The 4 years he spent in Southeast Asia as a child, between the ages of 6 and 10. I’m 100% sure that he barely remembers those years, let alone any “valuable” insight on dealing with foreign governments.
“As for executive experience, he has run probably the best-organized and most effective political campign on record”
But he isn’t running the campaign, is he? His Campaign Manager is. As the most effective? Between him and Senator Biden, they are a gaffe a minute: comparing his “extensive experience” to Gov Palin’s experience as a Mayor, totally disregarding she is one of the most effective and most popular Governor in the nation; threatening to press criminal charges against the Bush Administration; making sexist comments; fumbling with answers to simple questions from reporters; the list goes on and on and on.
“Like a musical prodigy or mathematical genius, these things just happen from time to time. ”
So you think Senator Obama is a genius? The man has NEVER held a real job or accomplished anything. Community Organizer = Political Hack. State Legislator - never took a stand and voted “present” over 100 times. Worked as a US Senator for 143 days and has no notable legislation or initiatives to his name.
What has he done? He’s done cocaine. He’s so proud of that fact he wrote about it in his first book. He’s friends with a unrepentant terrorist. They even lived in the same neighborhood and sat on a board together. He’s been involved in a shady land deal with a convicted felon. He’s given a $1,000,000 earmark to his wife’s employer right after she got a big promotion. The man has serious ethics issues, but the MSM doesn’t care. They want him elected. He’s talked, and talked, and talked, and done nothing.
And you’re inspired by him? Does he inspire you to go out and smoke crack cocaine, so you can be just like him? Does he inspire you to cavort with terrorists? Does he inspire you to go out and organize in the community so you can strongarm elected officials? (That’s really what a “community organizer” does. They are not out working in soup kitchens or anything worthwhile, they organize groups to put pressure on elected officials so they get what they want.)
The man is all style and no substance. He has poor judgement. (used illegal drugs, friends with a terrorist, financial dealings with a convicted felon) Has never held a real job with actual responsibilities. Sure, as a Senator, he has the responsibility to vote. (which he does, sometimes) But there is little accountability and no responsibility to follow through on legislation that he helps pass. That falls on the Executive Branch, you know, where Governors, Mayors, and Presidents actually govern.
So lets see what he has done in his political career: As a “community organizer”, he’s gone in and gotten citizens organized to put pressure on elected officials to get what they want, then he gets to walk away from any responsibility. As a part-time State Legislator, he gets to vote on legislation, (which he quite often just voted “present”, rather than take a principled stand) then walk away from any responsibility. As a US Senator, he gets to do the same thing. Do you see a pattern? He has never had to make a decision and take responsibility for his actions.
He got elected to the Illinois State Legislature using dirty politics: he got his opponents removed from the ballot by challenging signatures on nominating petitions, so he basically ran unopposed.
He got elected to the US Senate again using dirty politics: after Democrat operatives forced the release of sealed divorce proceedings of his opponent, he ended up running against Alan Keyes who moved to Illinois just so Obama had someone to run against.
He is grossly unqualified to be a Presidential Candidate, much less a President. Senator Obama is a fraud. An empty suit. He is lost without his beloved teleprompter. Sure his rhetoric is inspiring to his kool-aid drinkers, but it has no substance.
75. extramedium | September 4th, 2008 at 9:18 am
yekepyt - You got that right…and you can bet the murder boards will be starting this week. Considering she didn’t even know what the vice-president role does a short time again, she’s going to need to do a lot of learning and practicing to stay on message and succeed in the debate. Biden has a built-in advantage here, but that’s not to say she can’t prepare well and win.
76. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 9:19 am
yekepyt,
“I am curious to know if she’ll be able to keep up the bravado when the words aren’t written for her and displayed on the teleprompter.”
I’m curious to know if Senator Obama can put a coherent sentence together that isn’t written for him and displayed on the teleprompter. So far, he doesn’t look so good. He fumbles for words. About every other word is “er” or “uh”.
77. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Ok, A-10, I won’t take the bait and post URL’s to videos of McCain stumbling and stammering. And this blog’s servers probably couldn’t hold the complete list of Bush’s idiotic bloopers.
One minute the Right criticizes Obama for being such an excellent speaker, then the next minute they’re criticize him for not being a good speaker.
Palin picked a lot of fights — her speech was primarily about belittling her opponent, which is exactly the type of speech that fills her target audience with glee. I think she did exactly what she should have done, from a campaign strategy point of view.
We will both have our curiosity satisfied over the next few months.
78. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 9:28 am
extramedium,
“Considering she didn’t even know what the vice-president role does a short time again”
Nice try at taking the quote out of context. What she said next was: “I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”
It’s not that she doesn’t know what the Vice President does, (the only actual defined duties are sit as President of the Senate and vote to break ties) it is how a President McCain would use the Vice President. Will the VP just go around to ribbon-cutting ceremonies, or, as Gov Palin stated: “…be a fruitful type of position…”
79. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 9:30 am
extramedium says … but I’ll remind you - the VP doesn’t normally do much of anything.
And then yekept pipes in … Considering she didn’t even know what the vice-president role does a short time again.
Thanks boys …
The Republicans needed to say what they said last night because we don’t have the media saying it for us on a daily basis. :-P
80. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Palin spole directly to the heart of nearly every American last night that is struggling to raise a family and meet the challenges of todays society.
She’s is one of us and she will be the next VP and will be the President, hopefully, in four short years.
She has awoken a sleeping middle class giant and the Demos are like deers caught in the headlights.
81. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 9:35 am
extramedium says … but I’ll remind you - the VP doesn’t normally do much of anything.
The why does Cheney bother you so?
82. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Hi Kimberly, it wasn’t me that pointed out that Palin said she didn’t even know what the vice-president role does. I “piped in” to point out that Palin’s speech was exactly what excites the right wing: insulting the opponent without discussing policy.
She did put down Obama for because he worked to better his community when he was in his 20’s. But what was she doing in her 20’s that was more important? She didn’t say.
Assuming she doesn’t go back into hiding, the real “talent portion” of this pageant is going to start when she has to answer tough questions from reporters, and will culminate in the debate with Joe Biden.
If I were Biden, I’d be rehearsing in mock debates against a Palin-like opponent, and reviewing the tapes to make sure that I don’t come across as picking on her. Biden’s experience and knowledge dwarf Palin’s, but this could work against him in a debate if he’s not careful. It will be an interesting debate!
83. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 10:05 am
neocon,
“She has awoken a sleeping middle class giant”
Exactly like when the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Because they failed to destroy the entire US Pacific Fleet, (cause the carriers weren’t in port) they awoke a sleeping giant.
Because the left and the MSM failed horribly in trying to destroy Gov Palin, the sleeping giant that is “Mainstream America” has awoken and will kick the Democrat’s @ss, just like we did to the Japanese in WWII.
Gov Palin relates to so many in the “Mainstream” of America: Parents with Special Needs Children - she has one; 2nd Amendment/NRA supporters - she is an avid hunter and fisherwomen; Hockey Moms, (with lipstick, or not) and Soccer Moms; Working women - she has successfully balanced being the Governor and a Mother; Pro-lifers (there are many more who are pro-life than there are pro-abortion); Blue Star Families (for those who don’t know, that’s a family member of an Active Duty Serivce member) - she was proudly wearing her “Blue Star Pin”.
About the only people who cannot identify with Gov Palin are those who want to kill unborn babies; want to tax us back into a recession; want the US to become a Socialist state (Universal Health Care - Cradle to Gravel entitlements); want the US to lose wars and become a second-rate country.
Democrats/liberals never talk about America exceptionalim. They only talk about how they haven’t been proud of their country in the past. They talk about how we oppress others, when the truth is that we have liberated tens of millions from despots. They only talk about our failures and blame the US for all the ills in the world, when the truth is that Americans are the most giving people in the world, are the ones everyone turns to in a time of need, and can be counted on to “watch your back.”
84. Retired Spook | September 4th, 2008 at 10:06 am
The Republicans needed to say what they said last night because we don’t have the media saying it for us on a daily basis.
Kimberly, that’s a great point that can’t be stressed enough. All of the negative things that have been discovered about Obama have mostly been “reported” in the MSM, but not really scrutinized. Last night after Palin’s speech, several pundits admitted that now the armies of reporters will descend on Alaska in an attempt to dig up dirt on her. Funny, I don’t remember hearing about the army of investigative reporters descending on Chicago and delving into Obama’s connections with Ayers and Rezko. Instead they’ve just taken Obama’s word for it that they were just casual acquaintances with whom he had minimal contact.
Republicans are largely responsible for their own opposition research while Democrats have a willing and unapologetic MSM to do much of theirs for them. I know I’ve said this a number of times before, but, IMO, it just can’t be repeated enough: about this time 4 years ago, Evan Thomas, editor of Newsweek, admitted, I think on MTP, that the MSM bias was worth 15 points for Kerry. And Kerry still lost. Can you imagine how weak a candidate he actually was? And, but for some 60,000 votes in Ohio, the press would have elected him President. Kinda puts a new spin on the phrase “selected, not elected”, doesn’t it?
Our Founders respected the fact that a free press was critical for our form of government to flourish, but I’ll bet they’re rolling over in their graves at how that “free press” has become nothing but a tool for one political party.
85. FmrMarine | September 4th, 2008 at 10:07 am
nip
We all know what a “community organizer” really is.
It an affirmative action job, with govt funds (tax payer) dollars or corp. shake down dollars.
Like je$$e j. rainbow/push, acorn etc.
They answer to no one, make insiders millionaires,
and help SOME people learn how to obtain money from the govt. legal does not matter.
>>>ST. PAUL-Former governor George Pataki doesn’t think too much of Barack Obama’s post-college, biography-anchoring work in Chicago as a community organizer.
Speaking at the Ohio delegation’s breakfast this morning, Pataki went on the attack to dispel talk about G.O.P. vice-presidential pick Sarah Palin’s inexperience.
“They talk about her résumé,” he said. “You know, she was mayor of a small town.”
“He was a community organizer. What in God’s name is a community organizer? I don’t even know if that’s a job,” he said. He received laughter and applause.>>>
I concur with the gov.
86. FmrMarine | September 4th, 2008 at 10:13 am
nip
more..
>>>
DENVER, Colo. — During a presentation Wednesday at the Democratic National Convention, ACORN leaders announced that the organization has registered more than 1.1 million eligible voters this election season. ACORN’s goal is to help register 1.5 million new voters in what is believed to be the largest voter registration drive in modern-day history.
So they ues MY tax dollars to register more democRATS to suck off the govt. teat and my family’s hard EARNED money (taxes)
real nice NIP this AA candidate is part of a democrat scam and has been exposed.
87. William of Orange | September 4th, 2008 at 10:17 am
kimberly4victory writes:
Thanks boys …
The Republicans needed to say what they said last night because we don’t have the media saying it for us on a daily basis.
Kimberly,
Just a word of thanks for slogging it out against the mindless, leftist drones who inhabit this board. You do a great job and I, for one, sure do appreciate your tenacity!
..reminds me of a VP candidate I saw someplace.
(No, I don’t mean “Slow Joe”!)
88. Rich | September 4th, 2008 at 10:18 am
“By comparing herself with the 20-year old Barack, one can’t help but realize when she was 20, she was parading around in swimsuits.”
Um dumbass, you did see the pics of Obama parading around in a swim suit three weeks ago when he was in Hawaii? You are an utter tool.
89. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 10:24 am
yekepyt,
“She did put down Obama for because he worked to better his community when he was in his 20’s.”
No, besides using cocaine, he was a political agitator, which is what a “community organizer” does.
“Biden’s experience and knowledge dwarf Palin’s”
Except for the fact that Senator Biden is prone to exageration and likes to put people on the spot with impossible questions, without knowing the answer himself (during a Senate Confirmation Hearing he asked the individual who the Prime Minister of Angola was, Senator Biden knew the individual didn’t know, but neither did he. He did it just to embarrass the individual. It will backfire with Gov Palin.)
And yes, he has spent 36 years in the US Senate, but he has ZERO executive experience, where she has 8 years of direct executive experience.
As for knowledge, I would venture that Gov Palin is far more knowledgable on energy issues, the #1 issue today, and with foreign policy considerations.
Is she weak on foreign policy? Maybe. We don’t really know yet. But she has negotiated with Canada on economic issues (natural gas pipeline) and her state borders one foreign country and is just a dew miles from Russia. The last time I checked, Delaware doesn’t border a foreign country.
I also question Senator Biden’s competence and judgement. Why did he tell the Isrealis that they should be resigned to living with Iran with Nukes? That is irresponsible. As a Senator, he does not set foreign policy. The President does.
90. Rich | September 4th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Rasmussen weighs in on media coverage with a poll-
Thursday, September 04, 2008 Email to a Friend.AdvertisementOver half of U.S. voters (51%) think reporters are trying to hurt Sarah Palin with their news coverage, and 24% say those stories make them more likely to vote for Republican presidential candidate John McCain in November.
Thirty-nine percent (39%) also believe the GOP vice presidential nominee has better experience to be president of the United States than Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.
But 49% give Obama the edge on experience, according to a new Rasmussen Reports
91. FmrMarine | September 4th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Mark;
more “community organizing”
>>>Freddie, Fannie Funded Jesse Jackson’s Pet Projects
Keriann Hopkins, Cybercast News Service, July 22, 2008
Mortgage giants Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae have come under fire for making contributions to programs headed by the Rev. Jesse Jackson at a time when their own survival is at stake.>>>
>>>According to the conference program, obtained by an NLPC staff member who attended the event, Freddie Mac, as a “Platinum Sponsor,” paid $150,000. Fannie Mae paid $100,000 to be listed as a “Diamond Sponsor.”>>>
>>>Both Freddie Mac (The Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation) and Fannie Mae (The Federal National Mortgage Association) are private corporations chartered by Congress and responsible to the federal government.>>>
>>>The NLPC noted that the contributions came at a time when the value of the companies’ shares had declined by approximately 85 percent.>>>
>>>After Freddie Mac signed a $1 million contract for Rainbow/PUSH to run an “Economic Literacy” program, Jackson’s nonprofit coalition turned around and charged churches $1,000 to enroll in the program, the NCLP said.
Freddie Mac also pledged to earmark $1 billion in mortgage loans specifically for minorities.
In 2003, an independent report commissioned by the Freddie Mac board criticized the company’s accounting practices, singling out 13 improper transactions involving Ron Blaylock, Jesse Jackson’s longtime financial backer. According to the report, Blaylock received fees of $250,000 for making some phone calls.>>>
92. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Aw shucks, William. :-) I have to thank Sarah Palin for my renewed enthusiasm.
I only wish Almiranta was here, too. It seems I am outnumbered … LOL.
A-10 writes: Gov Palin relates to so many in the “Mainstream” of America: Parents with Special Needs Children - she has one; 2nd Amendment/NRA supporters - she is an avid hunter and fisherwomen; Hockey Moms, (with lipstick, or not) and Soccer Moms; Working women - she has successfully balanced being the Governor and a Mother; Pro-lifers (there are many more who are pro-life than there are pro-abortion); Blue Star Families (for those who don’t know, that’s a family member of an Active Duty Serivce member) - she was proudly wearing her “Blue Star Pin”.
That is EXACTLY why the press and the Obama camp have relentlessly attacked Palin. They are scared of her and last night, she showed America the reason why.
You know, RS, four years ago, I talked until I was blue in the face about how bad Kerry was for our country. I even changed the mind of several of my Democrat friends. One friend even believed F911 was full of truth until I pointed out the 50+ lies in the fakeumentry.
The Republican base is behind McCain-Palin. It is up to each and every one of us to go out and talk to Democrats and Independents and point out the reasons why OB cannot become POTUS.
If you haven’t donated to the campaign, and if you can, please do so.
93. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Spook,
I’m waiting for the hordes of investigative reporters to descend upon the streets of Chicago and seek out the pusher that used to sell him cocaine. Is he still buying? He admits in his first book that he would have tried heroin, but didn’t like the pusher. Did he find a pusher he did like?
I have a serious problem with someone who brags about their illegal drug use and those who embrace illegal drug users.
94. William of Orange | September 4th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Willem van Oranje writes:
And that phony shout out to families with kids with special needs?
She slashed funding for Special Education with 62%.
In fairness, you (and the others reportuing this) assume these cuts weren’t warranted. What if — and I have not done any research as yet — the funds could have been cut? What if the organizations who were running these services were found to be like — oh, say the Annenberg Project who blew $100-150 million into the ether with no discernible effect?
Palin also eBay’ed the governor’s jet and fired the chef because they were unnecessary.
True, it sounds a little cold, but how do you know that the kids who would have been affected by this cut could not have found similar help and support from the private sector?
I suspect your response will be the typical “but it’s for the children” rejoinder that has gotten municipalities, states, and the feds wrapped around the axle with debt to begin with.
95. Bill | September 4th, 2008 at 10:48 am
I can’t help but think that all these positive comments about Palin and her speech were, just like her speech, written before anyone involved had every heard of her.
Be honest with yourselves. You hate McCain but he’s the only one you had who wasn’t a complete joke.
He caved though. The maverick is gone and all that’s left is another Republican robot. The choice of a religious-right lockstepper just completes the downfall.
How is McCain going to stand up to al Qaeda if he can’t even stand up to Karl Rove?
But being the obedient little muppets you are, you’re blind to all that and you dutifully repeat all the cheerleading chants.
Fall in line, bitches.
96. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 10:54 am
kimberly4victory,
And I forgot two HUGE sectors of “Mainstream America”: Working Families and “Small Town America”. Do the Donks really think the these two groups really identify with the elitist, snobism liberals at the top of their ticket? No way.
Do they identify with someone who actually is from a working family from “Small Town America”? Absolutely.
97. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 11:07 am
You’re absolutely right, A-10. They are the ones who gave Bush West Virginia, and will give it to McCain in November.
BTW, just spoke to my auntie (mom of my cousin in Alaska). Everyone is excited in the small state of Alaska! I even found out one of Sarah’s brothers taught two of my cousin’s kids … I’ll have to give cuz a call today to see if she can get me the next Vice President of the United State’s autograph. :-)
98. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Has anyone mentioned that Obama tried cocaine twenty years ago?
Seriously — get over it, it’s tiresome.
99. Retired Spook | September 4th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Fall in line, bitches.
Bill, you are dismissed. Thanks for playing.
100. Magnum Serpentine | September 4th, 2008 at 11:20 am
William,
The fact that ethically challenged Palin Slashed funding for special needs children by 63% is more than enough to be fearful for our special needs children if she should be appointed to the Vice Presidency. The fact that this has came out will give the Republican Investigation into Palin’s ethics violation, more ammo to go on.
101. Bill | September 4th, 2008 at 11:30 am
You’re welcome.
Sorry, was that last line more rude and tacky than a post saying, “you’re totally screwed”?
You’ll have to forgive a newbie. I thought with that kind of language, I’d fit right in.
102. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 11:35 am
yekepyt,
“Seriously — get over it, it’s tiresome.”
“Tiresome”? Tiresome that your candidate admits to using one of the most adictive illegal drugs know?
You don’t have a problem with your candidate admitting to using cocaine? Maybe you think its okay because you are also a cocaine user.
Personally, I don’t want someone who has admitted using cocaine and has admitted to considering using heroin (he might have, if he found a pusher he liked) in the Oval Office. You might not have a problem with it, but most Americans do. I know I do. And, no, I won’t get over it. It is a serious character flaw about Senator Obama. It shows a lack of judgement. And don’t give me any “he was only in his 20’s” crap. When I was in my 20’s, I was on the Presidential Security Detail at Camp David. I was trusted for my judgement, competence, and trustworthyness. I was smart enough to know that using illegal drugs was stupid, illegal, and destructive. Apparently, you and Senator Obama aren’t smart enough to know that.
103. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Sorry,
“most adictive illegal drugs know?” = “most addictive illegal drugs known?”
Fingers a little slow today.
104. Bill | September 4th, 2008 at 11:40 am
You prefer someone who wouldn’t admit to it?
105. Retired Spook | September 4th, 2008 at 11:46 am
It is a serious character flaw about Senator Obama.
Just one of many, A-10.
It shows a lack of judgement.
Humorously ironic isn’t it that his supporters tout his character and judgment as positive attributes that make up for his lack of experience?
You’ll have to forgive a newbie.
No I don’t, Bill. We have enough Leftist idiots here; we don’t need newbie Leftist idiots.
Get lost.
106. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Ho, hum, now Obama and I are active cocaine users. A-10 talks about cocaine all the time — he just can’t get it off his mind! He’s obsessing over it, when Obama probably hasn’t thought about it in over twenty years.
The only time I’ve seen someone obsess over cocaine the way that A-10 does is when they’re addicted themselves.
107. Bill | September 4th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Oh, I’m a “leftist” am I? Because I spoil your good story with a few facts? Just because I give you a little straight talk.
The last time I looked, America had free speech. Now I’m being told to get lost for having a differing opinion to you?
Since you’ve made it clear that you’re only interested in talking to people who share you own very narrow world view (which only justifies my “fall in line” comment), I’ll not spoil your fun any longer.
I’ll leave it to the voters to do that in November.
108. Retired Spook | September 4th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Oh, I’m a “leftist” am I? Because I spoil your good story with a few facts?
ROTFLMAO! Facts? You wouldn’t know a “fact” if it bit you in the ass. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
109. extramedium | September 4th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
“The why does Cheney bother you so?”
He does?
110. Dasein Libsbane | September 4th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
“The fact that ethically challenged Palin Slashed funding for special needs children by 63%”
Like your source, you are incapable of reading a budget; those programs were increased and moved to another section of the budget.
Gawd, you people have no shame.
111. Dasein Libsbane | September 4th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Uh oh, looks like Obama won’t be getting his illegal campaign pay-offs this month.
Then why does Obama have a Nigerian bundler?
“Change” we can take to the bank.
112. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Oh, no, not another Nigerian connection! Actually, it’s another non-story, another distortion from the right wing.
An organization in Nigeria began running ads for a “fundraiser” for Obama. Upon hearing of the ads (and before the fundraiser was held), staff council for Obama for America issued an official statement on the matter, saying “we want to inform you that Obama for America, Inc, which is the principal campaign committee for Senator Barrack Obama in his campaign for President of the United States, and the Democratic National Committee are in no way affiliated with this event or with this [Nigerian] organisation…. Obama for America and the Democratic National Committee will not accept any funds raised at this event or through the fundraising activities of this group.”
The only one I’ve seen who claims that this money was ever destined to be “bundled” and sent to Obama’s greedy little hands here in America is Dasein Libsbane, who must have an inside line on the caper.
113. FmrMarine | September 4th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
dl
>>>Gawd, you people have no shame.>>>
You mean like oBOMBa’s kenyan BROTHER who lives in a grass hut with a dirt floor on TEN dollars a year?
oBOMBa’s wife makes $350,000.00 a year in an affirmative action job and who knows what hussein’s AA “community organizer” job pays and yet they let this BROTHER live in sqular?
a $20.00 gift would double his YEARLY salary.
tell all about it A$$Hat!
114. FmrMarine | September 4th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
DL
sorry I didn’t mean to reply to your post,
so my answer is not to YOU, it is to ykept
115. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
yekepyt,
Not at all. Just speaks volumes about and you and your candidate. I’m willing to submit to a drug test anytime, anyday. Have never used ANY illegal drug. I don’t even take asprin. Don’t even drink. (only some Asti on New Year’s Eve) Can you say the same? I doubt it. My only vice is golf.
Shall I move on to Senator Obama’s resume? I would, but there is nothing there. As he has said himself, his most important foreign relations experience is living in SE Asia between ages 6 and 10. What’s his economic experience? ZERO. What’s his energy experience? ZILCH. What’s his national security experience? Less than ZERO. What’s his executive experience? NONE. Has he ever truely “governed?” NEVER. No experience. Never governed. All talk. No action.
He’s an empty suit, propped up by the MSM. He’s so lacking in depth, that when he turns sidewise, he disappears. He’s afraid to compare his resume to Senator McCain’s, so instead he and his minions in the MSM compare him to Gov Palin. And his resume pales in comparison. She has more governing experience than Senators Obama and Biden combined. H*ll, I’ll even through in Senator Clinton and former Senator Edwards (the other top two Donk hopefulls) and they all don’t match Gov Palin’s governing experience.
His policies? They would ruin our economy that has been humming along at a 2-3% growth rate for 5 years or so. Unemployment? His tax and spend plans would put small businesses out of business, increase unemployment, and deter investments. The Deficit? His tax and spend policies would add Trillions to the Deficit. The War on Terror? He thinks we lost and wants to negotiate with Terrorist States. All of his policies are wrong. He was wrong about the “Surge.” He and his minions are lying about the state of the economy.
He’s a loser now, as he will be in November.
116. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
News flash!!!
I just hear that Senator Obama made a speach last week, but cannot find anyone in the MSM or on the internet who is talking about it. I’m wondering if he said anything of substance.
Oh. My bad. Of course he didn’t.
117. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
You’ve completely lost it, FmrMarine — your response seems to have nothing at all to do with my post. My post is to point out that Obama preemptively rejected this Nigerian fundraiser before it was even held, and issued an official statement, which I quoted from.
After filtering out the misspellings, childish name calling, and third grade punctuation, your reply basically says that Obama and his wife have enough money to give some to his half-brother in Africa. Which he probably does, anyway. So how are these two posts related?
Affirmative action doesn’t get you President of the Harvard Law Review or magna cum laude — hard work and smarts do.
I wonder if you (or I) would have done so well at Harvard (it’s a pretty tough school).
118. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Ok, A-10, you don’t take alcohol or drugs, that’s good! I don’t really care, but if you’re happy with your lifestyle, that is what counts.
I still wonder why you obsess over cocaine, and lie about other people using it (e.g., Obama, who does not use cocaine and hasn’t since he tried it twenty years ago). Are you lying about your own use of drugs, as well? I personally don’t think that you are.
As for Obama being a loser, what standard are you using? Have you accomplished even a tiny fraction of what he has (president of the Harvard Law Review, magna cum laude graduate from Harvard, professor of Constitutional law, self-made millionaire, state senator, US senator, nominated for President of the United States)?
The real “loser,” right now at least, is McCain — he’s down in every poll.
Now, you call Obama a “tax and spend” candidate, but you must know where the Republicans stand on larger government and larger debt: they borrow and spend like drunken sailors.
You also assert that our economy is in good shape, growing at what you deem a healthy rate. Do you know of how the foreclosure statistics, unemployment numbers, underemployment numbers, real wages, energy costs, health care costs, and the pulse of the average American have changed under Bush?
On a positive note, your spelling is getting better. My third-grader might have had trouble with “aspirin” just like you did, although she wouldn’t have missed “truly” or “hopefuls.” I mention this only because you thoughtfully pointed out one time that I left the “e” out of “successful.”
119. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
yekepyt,
“I still wonder why you obsess over cocaine, and lie about other people using it”
Did Senator Obama use cocaine? Yes or No. Simple question. Answer: YES. No lie there. I don’t obsess about it. Its just that a Presidential candidate should not be an admitted cocaine user.
“Have you accomplished even a tiny fraction..” Actually, I have a decent resume. 27 years of military service, including service on the Presidential Security Detail, a Graduate Degree, etc. But, then, I’m not running for the Chief Exeuctive of the United States. Your empty suit is.
You must be on drugs. I never pointed out any of your misspellings. I understand that while people are composing comments, it’s easy to add or drop a letter, hit a wrong key, or forget to hit “shift” when entering punctuation. I never point out anyone’s misspellings. You must be talking about someone else. You should pay closer attention to who you are responding to.
I do know where the GOP has stood on larger government and larger debt. That’s why I’m supporting the McCain/Palin ticket to bring Government spending under control. The Obama/Biden will make the GOP spenders look like pikers. Oh, by the way, the Donks control Congress, so much of the blame for the most recent spending spree falls squarely on their shoulders.
“Do you know of how the foreclosure statistics, unemployment numbers, underemployment numbers, real wages, energy costs, health care costs, and the pulse of the average American have changed under Bush?”
Yes, do you? And do you know why?
By the way, unemployment is steady in the 4.5 - 5.5% range, close to “Full Employment” and on par with the Clinton Years. Inflation is in check. The number of Americans working is at a record level. Energy cost are up for a number of reasons. But the Donks blocking the constuction of Nuke plants, oil processing facilities, offshore drilling and drilling in ANWR have made the problem much worse. And Senator Obama’s solution: “Inflate your tires and get a tune-up.” Psss. Senator Obama. Most cars on the road today don’t require tune-up and have properly inflated tires. Talk about out-of-touch with reality.
120. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Hi A-10, in reply #42 to this post, you quoted me, and put a little “(sic)” after the word “succssful” in the quote. Yep, I had misspelled the word, and you caught it for me. Well played, you’re very clever!
I thanked you, and returned the favor by pointing out that you had misspelled exaggerating, earmarks, pressures, and government, and you left out a space between the words “in” and “acts,” — you wrote “inacts.”
Now, in your last post, there are only three misspelled words (down from five), and this is improvement on that front.
But in addition to your “senior moment” where you accuse me of being on drugs after forgetting your own post, let me address the substance of your most recent… offering.
Wait — there is no substance in your most recent offering.
Obama doesn’t use cocaine.
The Republicans are the party of enormous borrowing and spending and large government.
The economy is hurting, both McCain and Obama say so (actually, with McCain, it depends on which way the wind is blowing). The economy is the central issue in every national campaign this season. It’s Americans’ #1 concern (according to Gallup which shows 43% of Americans rating it as their most important issue, compared to the next most important, Iraq, with 15%). You can say, “no no no the economy is doing great” until you turn blue in the face, but you’ll still be “wrong wrong wrong” and any objective analysis of the facts proves it.
121. bongoman | September 4th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Sure it’s not jingoism?
122. The Buffalo Bean » &hellip | September 4th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
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123. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Well excuse me. I did enter a (sic). Please accept my most sincere apologies.
Senator Obama (I try to always use their title out of respect for the pffice, something most, if not all, liberals fail to do) DID use cocaine. Does he now? we don’t know. All we know is that he admits to using one of the most addictive substances known to man, and he might still be using drugs.
Is our economy in perfect shape? No. Is it in much better shape that most will give credit for? (even the McCain campaign) Probably. Even with a GDP of $13.13 trillion, there is always room for improvement.
I believe that the team of McCain/Palin offer a much better chance of fostering that improvement.
Funny, you have never refuted any of my facts about Senator Obama’s disasterous plans. Perhaps they are too tough of a pill for you to swallow.
And thanks again for acting as a spellchecker. I knew liberals where good for something.
124. yekepyt | September 4th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
No problem, A-10, it’s actually rewarding for me to see your spelling improve. As you can probably tell, I take an interest in educating folks like you.
You’re right: we don’t know for sure whether you, I, McCain, Palin, Biden, Obama, or the Easter Bunny are current cocaine users. Unless you have some inside information, I guess we’ll just have to take each other at our word.
Sarah Palin smoked weed — probably called it “mary jane.” Does that bother you? Or is it just cocaine, or perhaps it’s just because it was against the law when and where he did it?
I’m understand that a little weed wouldn’t be as upsetting to you as cocaine experimentation, but even if it’s, say, just 25% as upsetting, you must be really freaked out that Palin smoked some hooch, because you’re practically apoplectic about Obama trying cocaine twenty years ago.
125. A-10 | September 4th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
yek,
I’m dropping the cocaine issue. He was a drug user. Maybe he isn’t now. But someone of his supposed intelligence should know that addictive drug use is destructive and dangerous. It tells me that while he may have a higher than average IQ, he isn’t very smart. And he knew he was breaking the law. Not what I expect from the man who wants to be the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the US. But it is what I expect from a liberal, with the double standards and all.
You see it isn’t the drug use that bothers me the most. If he wants to kill himself using drugs, I don’t care. But I do not want my President to consider illegal drug use as cavalier as walking the dog. I especially don’t want my President so proud of his illegal drug use that he writes about it in a book. I may be okay with you liberals, but its not okay with the rest of America.
I guess that if Gov Palin legally smoked “weed”, I’ll have to live with it. It was legal.
I appreciate your willingness to educate us poor, dumb, hicks clinging to our Bibles and guns. But no thanks. Your kind of education we can go without.
Still waiting on a liberal to explain how raising taxes, increasing spending, and stiffling economic growth is going to improve our economy. You certainly have failed to explain how. Likewise, Senator Obama has failed to explain how.
Oh, and I see you aren’t very good at learning, or are you so superior to us hicks that we could never teach you something, like respect. Because you didn’t take the hint.
Its Sen or Senator McCain and Gov or Governor Palin to you. They earned the office. Even though I think President Clinton was one of the worst Presidents in our history and seriously diminished the stature and honor of the Presidency, I still call him President Clinton. I call Senator Obama by his title, even though I do not agree with him. I expect the same from others for all elected officials.
Otherwise, these conversations are over.
126. cam | September 4th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Jerimiah,
You wrote,
‘Maybe it’s because the law was changed by ACLU lawyers and liberal Supreme Court judges in combination to throw the childrens future out the door.
Maybe that’s why we can’t teach abstinence in school, because it has too much of a ‘Biblical’ overtone to it.’
I’ll take it this actually happened. Even if I accept the premise of your argument, how does that affect what hapens in a family whose mother believes in abstinence and therefore I assume teaches it to her children. Yet the outcome is much like others where this is practiced. If you don’t believe me look at the Victorian Era. Despite the fact that it was a period of strict sexual conservativism the spead of STD’s was widespread. Publicly people feigned chastity but behind closed doors t was quite different.
Ultimately, teenagers are going to be sexually active. If they at least know what is necessary to prevent the spread of STD’s and unwanted preganancies then they are ahead of the game.
Ultimately,
by getting pregnant out of wedlock it just shows that abstinence training is not based on reality. If a child in an upstanding family such as Sarah Palin’s can fail at this then imagine what would happen in a family where there is less support.
127. yekepyt | September 5th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Ok, A-10… you’re clearly not a fan of Rush Limbaugh.
You are dropping the drug issue after you learned (apparently, from me!) that Palin smoked marijuana and you’ll have to “live with it.” How very big of you.
I never called you a hick, I don’t know if you have guns or bibles (I own both), and I would not have picked on your spelling if you hadn’t invited it with the little “(sic)” you included when you quoted a misspelling of mine.
I also respect your decision to live without drugs and alcohol — it is a healthy choice and one I hope my own children will adopt.
128. yekepyt | September 5th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Hi A-10,
The answer is no, I don’t have a problem with Obama trying cocaine while in college. Am I thrilled about it? No. Is he bragging about it? No (and neither is Sarah Palin bragging about her marijuana use).
I would have a problem if he had a pattern of using drugs, or was using them today, but I can’t see how trying cocaine twenty years ago is relevant in any way to Obama’s performance today.
And I give the same free pass to Sarah Palin for trying marijuana — who cares? What possible difference could it make to her ability to function in office in 2008?
You tell us that you won’t even take an aspirin. I think you’re way off to one side of the bell curve (certainly out of the mainstream) on this particular issue.
129. A-10 | September 5th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
yekepyt,
No. You give yourself too much credit. Already knew about it.
Yes, I am a fan of Rush. And his situation was blown completely out of proportion by his enemies. He got dependent to painkillers after a failed back surgery that left him in continual pain. He stood up to his problem and got over it.
“The answer is no, I don’t have a problem with Obama trying cocaine while in college.”
Most of America would disagree with you, and I hope they do on Nov 4th. It shows disregard for our laws. Lack of courage. Lack of character.
As for aspirin, I rarely get a headache (although conversing with liberal brickwalls might bring one on) or other aches and pains, so I don’t bother and they don’t seem to work. That and some painkillers tear at my stomach. Took Advil once and the stomach pain was worse than the symptom I was trying to fix. I tend to just gut it out. If the pain appears to be serious, I get it checked out. Otherwise, I life with it. Must be my USMC mentality.
So it not like a “my body is a temple” mentality. Don’t need aspirin. Don’t need alcohol. Don’t need soft or hard drugs.