RNC Day 4 Open Thread
September 4th, 2008 at 09:09am Mark Noonan
All conservatives on fire for Palin, all liberals nervously sipping their lattes about Palin….its a great day to be a GOPer.
Meanwhile, John McCain has the unenviable task of making a speech tonight in the same venue as Palin, and he’s not been the best orator we’ve ever seen. I hope he keeps it low key and conversational, because that is his best style - but that might be difficult to pull off from a podium. Be that as it may, in McCain/Palin we’ve got the ticket which can win and which can change the course of American government…and set the stage for the long-term exiling of the left from American power, hopefully long enough for it to burn itself out and fade away.
But lets not get too far ahead of ourselves - we’ve still got a long, uphill climb and the real fight begins tomorrow. So get ready - but also remember to have fun with this and remember that in the long run, we will win.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, RNC08, Republicans
75 Comments
1. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 9:19 am
How could anyone think that the team of Obama/Biden/Reid/Pelosi is more in touch with the average American than Sarah Palin?
How is a plagerizing Lawyer and a Harvard educated Lawyer more in tune with the struggles of average Americans than hockey mom Sarah Palin?
She is middle class, she is real and she will win.
I can’t wait to see her become our first woman President in four short years.
2. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Last night, after the speech and then this morning, everytime a Chrissy Matthews, or The Forehead were interviewed, you could see the displeasure, the jealousy, the fear and loathing they have for this woman and her party. Andrea Mitchell looked as though she was ready to lay an egg.
The cat has leaped out of the bag and when their true colors are artfully exposed by a person with the class of Gov. Palin, they collapse…such as Ron Allen did with Newt last nite…..ROFLMAO!!!!
No Mark, we’re going to relish this moment as a victory such did Cuba Gooding Jr. had in the end-zone scene during Jerry Mcguire.
3. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Navydad: I did think most of the talking heads kept their blatently obvious support of Obama under key. It almost seemed to me that Chris Matthews became the Chris Matthews I admired years ago. What do you expect … after two nights of bashing the media. LOL!
NEW YORK – With a forceful speech that served as her introduction to millions of Americans on Wednesday, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin seduced many on television who had spent days doubting her candidacy.
It wasn’t just a home run, said CNN’s Wolf Blitzer; it may have been a grand slam. “A very auspicious debut,” said NBC’s Tom Brokaw. It was a “perfect populist pitch,” said CBS’ Jeff Greenfield.
“Terrific,” said Mort Kondracke on Fox News Channel.
“A star is born,” said Chris Wallace on Fox.
“A star is born,” Blitzer said.
“A star is born,” said Anderson Cooper on CNN.
Yeppers and she’s our star!!
4. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Poor Joe Klein …
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/angry_amateurs.html
My dad finally cancelled his subscriptions to both Newsweek and Time.
5. jayhay | September 4th, 2008 at 10:02 am
I have to say I LOVED the message of Palin’s rollout- “You can take your ‘unity’ and shove it up your a**.”
So here’s where we stand:
We get “hope”, you get “fear”.
We get “unity”, you get “divisivness”.
We get “change”, you get “four more years”!
I’ll take it.
So I guess you guys like good speechifying and celebrity now? Just want to keep up with the ephemeral GOP principles.
6. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 10:05 am
jayhay,
Maybe your cocaine using Harvard educated lawyer is best suited to take care of you.
Good luck with that.
7. Richard of Oregon | September 4th, 2008 at 10:08 am
I hope McCain doesn’t try to top Sarah’s speech. He can’t and shouldn’t. What he needs to do tonight is tell us how he will reform Washington, whip Bin Laden for good, cut taxes, revive business and fix the energy problems. And how Palin is going to help him get the job done. If Obama gave as hard-hitting and specific programn for how he was going to change Washington, the race would be over and he would have won. But he hasn’t because he can’t. Some days it seems as though he can make Biden look decisive. Tonight, McCain has the opportunity to show us how he can lead us to a better future with enough detail and credibility that we will be eager to join. He certainly looks like a tired old geezer, but in the last few weeks the campaign energy has been coming from him not the Metro Man crowd.
8. jayhay | September 4th, 2008 at 10:08 am
And now McCain has to convince that the ticket isn’t upside down. She’s getting out ahead of him.
9. CanadianObserver | September 4th, 2008 at 10:10 am
I can’t wait to see her become our first woman President in four short years.
1. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 9:19 am
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We keep hearing this sentiment being expressed by cons over and over again.
Poor old McCain just seems to be in the way, doesn’t he?
It’s truly laughable when the Party faithful start to worship a lightweight like Palin to the extent of elevating her to future leader of the free world.
I guess we have a new cult in the making.
10. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 10:10 am
jayhay,
I agree. Palin should, and will be President, soon. The American will make sure of that by making her the VP in November.
This race is over. Where do you suppose those styrofoam columns are?
11. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 10:13 am
No CO,
We have a real average American with middle class values and a family oriented heart. I believe McCain plans to only serve four years and then…..
Say hello to President Palin.
Your choice of a Harvard educated, inexperienced cocaine using lawyer has just set you back 12 years. Minimum.
12. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 10:20 am
We have to be extremely vigilant this election and not let Obama and his camp to steal this election:
http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/
13. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 10:27 am
K4B,
I agree, they toned the rhetoric down, but it’s body language and the the content of the dialogue that I pay most attention. Matthew’s body language was subdued and humble, but his desire for a lib in the WH was still evident through his questioning of Palin’s credentials.
The Forehead was on CNN this AM and couldn’t control himself. Fidgetting, smircking and trying to laugh-off the impact of the speech…not very credible.
Olbermann’s pant’s were stained with humility to the point his writers will most likely be fired and when Ron Allen (as directed via ear-piece) confronted Newt on the floor of the convention, Newt sent him and all of PMSNBC packin.
It was truly the knockout of the century for our party and even if we lose in Nov., the donks will remember this, we don’t go to gun fights with knives…..idiots.
14. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 10:31 am
BTW, didn’t Rachel Madog Maddow appear to be dipped in sh*t and rolled in crumbs? She couldn’t find the words to discredit Palin’s speech. Truly laughable.
15. Retired Spook | September 4th, 2008 at 10:47 am
How is a plagerizing Lawyer and a Harvard educated Lawyer more in tune with the struggles of average Americans than hockey mom Sarah Palin?
neocon, your comment reminds me of an email I received a while back.
16. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Navydad: I hate to sound ignorant, but who is the forehead? I know when you tell me, I will do the Homor Simpson.
RS: Thank you for that! I have emailed that to everyone on my list … very enlightening.
17. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 10:59 am
I loved it when Newt smacked down Ron Allen!! Don’t forget about Megan’s interview with the Sr. Editor of Us Magazine. It was priceless! Although, I was hoping she would mention the fact that the publisher of Us and Rolling Stone is a major donor of Obama’s campaign.
18. Retired Spook | September 4th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Kimberly, “The Forehead” is Rush Limbaugh’s pet name for Paul Begala.
19. Preston | September 4th, 2008 at 11:13 am
It seems fairly obvious that a staunch Bush supporter would be standing behind Palin. She may have won over the Republicans but she’s gonna have a tough, if not impossible, job at winning over Independents.
20. FactCheck | September 4th, 2008 at 11:14 am
So, Mark, we know you’ve seen Jeremiah advocate the murder of gay people. neocon recently admitted that he’d be willing to serve time in prison if it ment he could murder liberals in general. kahn will drop the flimsy pretense of general agitation for civil war and get into direct expressions of murderous desire.
So my question to you is: On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the most proud, how proud are you of the fact that your site hosts–and even encourages, as we see with neocon’s descent into madness–conservatives who want to be murderers for the conservative cause?
Don’t go ducking the question or changing the subject, now! That would be cowardly, and you like to think of yourself as non-cowardly, don’t you?
(aside to neocon: the squealing and faux-tough-guy posturing you’re about to do only proves my point. I know you don’t understand that, but I figured I should point it out to you anyway. Now…go ahead and squeal.)
21. Rich | September 4th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Factcheck- How about you log off if you don’t like it here. The vitriol the left has sent at us is one hundred times what you have recieved. You won’t be missed, and frankly I’m not sure why you bother showing up. Do you feel like you will change anyone’s mind here?
22. FactCheck | September 4th, 2008 at 11:28 am
The vitriol the left has sent at us is one hundred times what you have recieved.
Can you point to the posts here where liberals said they would murder conservatives? There should be hundreds of them, by your estimation.
Do you feel like you will change anyone’s mind here?
Well, I know facts have no bearing on you…I’m just curious to see how you choose to work around them.
But right now, I’m curious what Mark Noonan thinks of the desire to murder that is festering in his supportive commentariat.
23. Rich | September 4th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Sorry fact, I have been here for years and hve seen a ton of bull from you guys, but I don’t archive every post some idiot makes. Like i mentioned abov,e what is keeping you from clicking elsewhere, maybe even somehwere you are wanted?
24. Retired Spook | September 4th, 2008 at 11:36 am
FactCheck,
You smug, self-righteous little creep. I can’t speak for Jeremiah, but I know enough Evangelical Christians to know where he’s coming from. If he and neocon both use over-the-top language is almost assuredly because they’ve had it up to their eyeballs with the likes of folks like you who, collectively, are sucking this great country that I love down a moral and intellectual sewer. I sense and share the frustration in their posts. I abhor violence, but should our disagreements ever descend into violence, your side will lose. That’s not a threat — just a fact.
Now crawl back under your rock with the rest of your fellow slugs.
25. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 11:37 am
neocon recently admitted that he’d be willing to serve time in prison if it ment he could murder liberals in general. - factcheck
So NIP calls me out and picks a fight, I tell him that I fight to the end, and now fact check is running to tell the authorities.
Why are all liberal men wusses? Palin is twice the man you are.
26. OhioOrrin | September 4th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Palin gave a good speech.
but I was voting for speechifying then it’s gotta be obama.
is her experience level appropriate to backstop a 72 yr old?
seems like her pick puts paid to the argument that obama is not experienced enough.
I’ll wait 4 the debates, leaning macain but really undecided & palin did not change that.
huckabee was the better choice.
27. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Huckabee was the better choice for who?
Liberals.
You are so screwed. Palin IS America and you guys are going down in a lawyer riddled cocaine abusing flame.
Bye.
28. jayhay | September 4th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
You’re right Rich, I’ll leave here before I get the stink of it on me. Obviously her hostility to half this country is something you all share. You can have her.
But I’ll leave you with this: Alaskan’s get $500 per person in federal pork, 10 times the national average. By the time she left Wasilla, they were getting $1000 per person. Her “reformer” angle is a crock that is coming down.
That Bridge to Nowhere? She RAN on that, AFTER it had already gotten that name. Then once it wasn’t working for her anymore (she’d won the election by then), she stopped the bridge. But she DIDN’T stop the MONEY - they kept the $230 mil in Alaska. And then added another $30 mil for the Road to the Bridge to Nowhere. Reformer my a**.
It’s a crock, and once she gets some experience out in the light of day, and we get experience with her, all that will be left is a poster child for the divisive crap we’ve had for the past eight years.
It’s just four more years, and we’re sick of it. Adios.
29. steinerla | September 4th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Didn’t Bush use cocaine?
30. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
steinerla,
He may have. And that is why I think Obama is too much like Bush.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Vote Palin for change.
31. Retired Spook | September 4th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
In a previous thread one of our resident Libs opined that Palin wouldn’t have the luxury of a teleprompter in the debate with Biden. It looks like she’s got that covered. Too funny!
32. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
D’oh! LOL.
Actually, I don’t listen to Rush so I guess I wouldn’t have known that. :-)
I can’t stand Paul Begala. Saw him on Larry King and I think he mentioned McCain’s bout with cancer about 1,000 times.
33. WhatChange | September 4th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
“You’re right Rich, I’ll leave here before I get the stink of it on me. Obviously her hostility to half this country is something you all share. You can have her.” jayhay
You are the stink and you are the hostility.
Adios bubba.
34. neocon | September 4th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
I wonder if Biden is prepared to lead if Obama dies on the first day of office.
35. Right Power | September 4th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Left Media, and Left Radio has turned into a pack of sexist, woman-haters.
Sarah Palin is a woman we can all be proud to have in the White House. She is right on important issues like: Preventing The left from trying to take peoples guns, or destroying family values, or driving up energy costs. She is a great inspiration for Republican women to get out and vote!
36. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Thanks Spook!
K4B,
I’ve been a proud listener of Rushs’ for 15 years and have found him to be not only great entertainment during my work day, but intellectually honest when stating the facts.
When Begala hosted Crossfire a few years back, his make-up crew tried their best to reduce his huuuugggge clwaanium…unsuccessfully and Rush picked-up on it and ran with it….and it stuck.
Whether true or not..he’s one of the worst political hacks I’ve seen.
37. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
OT, did anyone see the proud mayor of Detroit confessed??
What a great man this is and I suspect rev. Wright, Jethie Jackson et al. will come to his side in defense….NOT!!
38. hermie | September 4th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Didn’t Obama praise him as a great mayor?
39. Some Assembly Required | September 4th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
“Left Media, and Left Radio has turned into a pack of sexist, woman-haters.”
HAHAHAHA hey, at least there not handing out ‘Hottest VP’ Buttons…
40. LaMano | September 4th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
It’s NOT OVER. It’s just BEGINNING!!!
1. Donate money
2. Get yardsigns
3. Volunteer
Let’s CLOSE THE DEAL.
41. hermie | September 4th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
BTW… Why aren’t libs concerned over the fact that Obama could not get through his first term?
Aftre all, he has his addiction to tobacco and has a good chance of developing heart disease and lung cancer…not to mention high blood pressure, etc.
42. FmrMarine | September 4th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Navy
I just signed on to AOL,
they had a survey on Gov. Palin.
I find most voting on aol to be be mildly to the left.
Palin favorable speech? = 68% YES
Pailin can fill the POTUS if necessary? = YES 57%
Pailin are you more interested in this election after Pailin’s speach? = YES 78% WOO HOO !
43. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
CNN’s Paul Begala had some fun with the angry swipes at the media and said that small-town voters are “not casting their vote to annoy Anderson Cooper.”
“You assume I’m part of this elite media they keep talking about,” Cooper responded.
Yeah, I guess he is. LOL!
I just don’t have time to listen to Rush. Heck, I shouldn’t even be on the blogs right now.
44. kimberly4victory | September 4th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I totally agree, LeMano.
45. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
When I met my wife 16 years ago, she was a bleedin-heart-liberal and thru the years, she’s come to her senses. Not because of some emotional epiphany or speech, no, it was due to rational, deep felt values she never knew she had, and Palin brought those values home last night.
This my friends is the awakening the Conservative Party has needed since 1994!!!
46. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Obama is quoted as saying ” Kilpatrick is a…welll you guys can watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q
47. David B. Schmidt | September 4th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Even if McCain drops dead just after taking the oath for POTUS–Palin still has more real world experience than Obama.
I look forward to the debates as we should of had at least ten by now but “Anytime, Anywhere” Obama couldn’t find the time or location he liked. You know, the ones with multiple teleprompters, gives a speech and takes no questions in lieu of a town hall.
His “real world” experience is a failed Hyde Park as an organizer and over $100 K of public & private money “lost” in concert with his buddy Bill “unrepentant” Ayers and the CAC.
48. FmrMarine | September 4th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Navydad;
this about sums it up ( not that your wife is over 30 -lol)
>>>
“Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.”
Winston Churchill >>>
49. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
FM…LOL!! Very good.
50. CanadianObserver | September 4th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
This my friends is the awakening the Conservative Party has needed since 1994!!!
45. navydad | September 4th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
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So, navydad, during all those years Mark and Matt spent in adoration of Bush (Blogs for Bush) they actually were asleep.
Thought so, but having you admit that Conservatives have been slumbering since 1994 cinches it. Many thanks.
51. FmrMarine | September 4th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
NavyDad;
A…….GOOD FRIEND!
A…….COLLEAGUE!
SOUND FAMILIAR ?
>>> Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick pleaded guilty to two counts of obstruction of justice and will step down as the mayor of the nation’s 11th-largest city as part of a deal in a sex-and-misconduct scandal that has plagued the Motor City for months.
Kilpatrick also pleaded no contest to assaulting or obstructing a public officer as part of the agreement.
He’ll serve two concurrent 4-month jail sentences and pay the city $1 million over a five-year probationary period. Kilpatrick cannot run for elected office during his probation and loses his law license.>>>
52. Kahn | September 4th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
RS - your post number 15 is really excellent.
53. steinerla | September 4th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Neocon,
a. your political opinions are based on what kind of drug the politician used?
b. Weren’t you a Bush supporter before?
c. Palin’s not really running for office, she was chosen to be a running mate.
54. extramedium | September 4th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
“and set the stage for the long-term exiling of the left from American power, hopefully long enough for it to burn itself out and fade away.”
Mark, you can be sure about a few things. First, there will always be a Left and a Right. Every European country has both, even though you’d probably consider their Right to be on way over on the left. Second, no matter how far the Left might drift to the right, you’ll still be against them. Because the are Them - the Other Guys. Of this, I am certain - in the end, it’s a team sport to you guys. It’s all about winning and proving that you are not inferior, isn’t it?
55. FactCheck | September 4th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Don’t go ducking the question or changing the subject, now! That would be cowardly, and you like to think of yourself as non-cowardly, don’t you?
Mark Noonan: rank coward.
Just as I suspected.
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