CNN’s Anderson Cooper Calling Barack Obama a Liar?
October 7th, 2008 at 09:59am Kevin Patrick
Not exactly, but he does go a long way towards saying Obama and his campaign aren’t being truthful regarding the relationship between Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama and unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayres. Here is the excellent report by CNN:
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Democrats, Media
63 Comments
1. hermie | October 7th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Oh thanks, Anderson…Maybe you’ll get around to reporting that man landed on the moon, or that Francisco Franco is dead.
2. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Here is the excellent report by CNN:
LMAO, I’ll remember this next time your complaining about the bias MSM and throwing CNN into the mix. Thanks for making my morning.
3. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Anderson cooper: So if Obama and Ayers worked together to improve schools what exactly is the McCain campaign saying is the problem with this?
Followed by talking point about judgment because of what Ayers did when Obama was 8 years old. Yup, sounds damning to me [sarcasim].
Hey, did you see that Obama is now 8 points ahead in the polls and growing. Seems this Ayers meme is only preaching to the base. Ayers won a citizen of the year award for the work for crying out loud. Your desperation is nothing short of comical.
4. hermie | October 7th, 2008 at 10:36 am
SAR:
You go from a story that Obama claims he hardly knew the guy, to one where he worked with Ayers hand-in hand for years.
Also, it casts a light on the group these two were involved with and the complete failure of actual accomplishment. It seems like most Chicago politicians, Obama loved spending money ($150 mil) on cronies (Like Ayers) without accountablity and without actually helping Chicago schools, which are failing badly.
A very poor executive, a very made judge of character…and a very poor liar.
But all Coop had to do back in 2006 and 2007 was to talk to John Kass of the Chicago Tribune for info.
5. hermie | October 7th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Bad judge of character…I was going to say a bad manager, but that would’ve been redundant after saying bad manager.
6. hermie | October 7th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Must have more coffee, I am all thumbs this morning.
7. neocon | October 7th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Axlerod was out yesterday saying that Obama had NO IDEA who Ayers was when he launched his political campaign from Ayers home in 1995.
So a graduate from Harvard Law, who studied Malcolm X and Saul Alinsky, HAD NO IDEA WHO THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND AND WILLIAM AYERS WAS????????
Puuhhhllleeaaasssseee.
8. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 10:50 am
“Ayers won a citizen of the year award for the work for crying out loud.”
Exactly..You dont think something is wrong with that?
Furthermore…CNN!? and excellent report!? That is funny..
The Ayers connection is something that frankly doesn’t bother me. I have a long list of complaints about Obama and reasons why I will NEVER support him. I’m not saying that his dubious connectins aren’t on said list, but they run further towards the bottom for me personally..
Having said that, wether or not Obama supporters on this blog want to admit it or not, bringing up his past connections does bring about emotional reactions for alot of americans. It doesnt matter that Obama was 8 years old when Bill Ayers committed domestic terrorism, the fact that Obama worked with this man not only speaks to his ignorance and poor judgement, it speaks to his abilities to knowingly work with evil people to gain political power.
Lets face it, Obama has a thin voting record (where he has actually took a position as opposed to voting present). (compared to McCain) And riding Dick Lugars coat-tails in Russia talking about Nuclear Proliferation doesnt really cut it when you want to talk about his abilities to “reach across the aisle”
I’m not in anyway saying that McCain is the “be all end all” candidate for the republican party..But damn people. He is so obviously much more experienced and capable of leading this country than Obama. I feel like i’m taking crazy pills when I see all these people who flock to this man.
9. hermie | October 7th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Anyone living in Chicago would have heard of the Weather Underground as well as Ayers and Dohrn.
Since Obama was a senior lecturer, he would have definitely heard the name and the stories about Ayers.
10. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Furthermore,
No is stating and/or implying that Obama is a terrorist. Period. That is absolutley absurd to be screaming that..Bongoman
The point is that Obama is very often irresponsible, ignorant and has an incredible tendancy to make piss poor judgements. And has a piss poor theory of government and where it does and does not belong and what it is and is not capable of delivering on.
Tonight; McCain had better make that crystal clear to the American public.
11. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Rightwing players,
I have two words for you ‘So What?’
I’m not waisting anymore time trying to argue basic logic or rationalism to you folks. You won’t see points even when there made.
Simple facts, Obama is pulling far far away in the polls and with the economy sinking into oblivion as each hour passes the general public doesn’t care whose to blame. What they do recognise is that Bush and McCain have been saying since march and april that the economy was fine. That the ‘fundamentals’ were fine. This whole Ayers fiasco that was played out when Obama faced clinton is only falling on already convinced ears. You scream Ayers and all Obama has to do to rebutt is say McCain said as recently as a month ago that ‘the fundamentals of the economy are still strong’. Checkmate.
12. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 11:29 am
The point is that Obama is very often irresponsible, ignorant and has an incredible tendancy to make piss poor judgements. And has a piss poor theory of government and where it does and does not belong and what it is and is not capable of delivering on.
Reference McCan’s ‘handling’ of the bailout for an example of a responsilbe leader with better judgment…..
13. neocon | October 7th, 2008 at 11:31 am
SAR,
McCain has been known to frequent the home of David Duke and has sought his support in the past. Do you have any problem with that?
14. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Basic Logic?
You wanna talk about basic logic? Basic logic to me would dictate that if I were interested in working in government either at local, state or federal level, I would never, and I mean never associate with someone that has committed domestic terrorism to this nation..
You work in any form of government at any level because you have a vested interest in helping it succeed and helping this great nation, and therefore working FOR the people that make this nation as great as it is.
And Obama thinks it’s ok to work hand-in-hand with someone as ignorant and as evil as Bill Ayers? And Obama wants to lead this nation? The very nation that Bill Ayers attacked? Are you stupid or just not making the connection!?
As for the economy. Tell me..Want economic experiance does Obama have? What buisness’ has he ran? Does he have a history in banking? Finance?
Who called for the resignation of Chris Cox? Who called for more oversight and regulation over FM and FM?
15. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Necon,
Nope. Duke was a KKK man and makes no secret about it. Sure the dude is a crackpot, but I do not believe it is a reflection of McCain’s character or judgment do you? Are you suggesting that McCain should be criticized for having ties to a known racist?
16. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 11:44 am
“As for the economy. Tell me..Want economic experiance does Obama have? What buisness’ has he ran? Does he have a history in banking? Finance?”
And McCain does? The most experience McCain has on it is ties to Keeting and the S&L crisis of the 80’s.
This is what you have resorted to. ‘Nevermind what McCain will do, look what Obama’s suggesting’.
It doesn’t work when people are loosing their homes and pensions. They want to know what each will do and the differences. They don’t want to know who had a cup of tea with whom or who sat on the same board attempting to help schools. Your speaking to your base and not those moderates which are crucial in this election. The polls reflect this. It will take a dead girl or live boy in Obama’s closet for him to lose this election.
Watch the debate tonight, I guarentee you the economy will comprise most of it and this Ayers thing will be of little significance. If McCain keeps pushing it while Obama tries to talk issues McCain will blow another hole in his already sinking ship.
17. A-10 | October 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Some Ass…,
What flavor of Koolaid are you drinking today?
The fundamentals of the economy are still strong. Worker productivity are up. Inflation is low. GDP is still growing.
As far as Sen Obama opening up his mouth, you have to take everything he says with a grain of salt. He’s lying about raising taxes. He’s lying about his record with Ayers. He’s lying about Sen McCain’s health plan. He’s lying about his association with Wright. He’s lying about what he did to provide oversight on FM/FM. He’s lying about his Marxist beliefs.
Associations do matter. Working with an unrepentant terrorist is unacceptable for a Presidential candidate. Attending a racist, anti-American church is unacceptable for a Presidential candidate. Having financial dealings with a convicted felon is unacceptable for a Presidential candidate.
A candidate’s history does matter. Sen Obama has refused to release his birth certificate. Sen Obama has refused to release his college records. Sen Obama has refused to release his State Senate records. Sen Obama has refused to release his medical records. Sen Obama has refused to release his campaign contributions from those contributing less than $200.
Sen Obama has accomplished nothing during his career. Not as a “community organizer”. Not as a Board member of the Woods Fund and the Annenberg Challenge. Not as a State Senator. Not as a US Senator.
Sen Obama is an unproven, unknown, radical socialist. He’s great on teleprompter. He stumbles when having to rely on using his brain to answer a question. He is unfit for the Oval Office.
18. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am
I certainly disagree with McCain’s stance on the bailout..
McCain and Obama supported this bailout..So whats your point?
At least McCain hasn’t offered up a 1 Trillion dollars worth of programs?
At least McCain talks about the importanc of limited spending and shrinking government.
Thats all any of us really has. What the candidates say they can do..My choice is based on who’s telling me the importance of limited government and limited spending, or smarter spending. (among other things). You would think that in this economic down-turn people wouldn’t be such sheep and actually listen to the messages of the candidates. I have not heard Obama say a damn word about smaller government. He preaches entitlements and MORE spending. He’s an idiot.
And people like you SAR buy right into..Yeah..Lets spend more, more, more…
19. neocon | October 7th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Oh SAR,
I think the MSM, and you imparticular would be all over McCain if he had such an associate.
Don’t kid yourself.
20. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Neocon,
the MSM would have to be over McCain now if such an associate came to light otherwise they would be BIASED. You know, you can’t fault Obama for something but ignore McCain for a controversial association as well.
For me personally, I could careless. If he condemned Duke’s former activities who cares.
I like how you dodged my questions though. Afraid to answer because they’d shed light into your hypocritical double standard hey…
21. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 11:59 am
and furthermore SAR,
When have I stated that McCain needed to preach Obamas dubious connections for tonights debate? Anywhere..Didnt think so.
“This is what you have resorted to. ‘Nevermind what McCain will do, look what Obama’s suggesting’”
Tell me SAR, how do YOU know what McCain will do? You got a crystal ball in your pants thats showing the future of a McCain administration?
I SUGGEST you retract that retarded ass statement.haha (sorry, I had to)
Speaking of suggestions..
Lets talk about suggestions shall we?
The longest running suggestion of this campaign has been that John McCain is somehow a clone of George W. Bush. You and any other Obama follower is no position to scream foul when republicans “suggest” Obama had a closer relationship with a known domestic terrorist than he will admit…A least that one is based in REALITY.
22. neocon | October 7th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
What questions SAR? If it’s re: Keating, I refer you to the following:
It was celebrated lawyer Robert Bennett, most famous for defending a certain horny hick president a few years ago.
In February this year, on Fox News’ “Hannity and Colmes,” Bennett said, for the eight billionth time:
“First, I should tell your listeners I’m a registered Democrat, so I’m not on (McCain’s) side of a lot of issues. But I investigated John McCain for a year and a half, at least, when I was special counsel to the Senate Ethics Committee in the Keating Five. … And if there is one thing I am absolutely confident of, it is John McCain is an honest man. I recommended to the Senate Ethics Committee that he be cut out of the case, that there was no evidence against him.”
23. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Lets see how this works…SAR says the following to neocon..
“I like how you dodged my questions though. Afraid to answer because they’d shed light into your hypocritical double standard hey…”
Earlier I ask SAR this on comment #14….
“As for the economy. Tell me..Want economic experiance does Obama have? What buisness’ has he ran? Does he have a history in banking? Finance?”-
And this is SARs answer to above stated question…comment #16
“And McCain does? The most experience McCain has on it is ties to Keeting and the S&L crisis of the 80’s.”-SAR
Yes SAR lets talk about dodging questions and hypocritical double-standards.
I understand though, I’m sure my question was just above your paygrade.
24. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Tell me SAR, how do YOU know what McCain will do? You got a crystal ball in your pants thats showing the future of a McCain administration?
“Watch the debate tonight, I guarentee you the economy will comprise most of it and this Ayers thing will be of little significance. If McCain keeps pushing it while Obama tries to talk issues McCain will blow another hole in his already sinking ship.
Note the embolden word.
As for McCain = Bush. I have been saying for quite some time I do not think McCain will be a 4th term of Bush. Though he does seem to share Bush’s economic policies.
Zach,
There is no changing you mind regardless. I could present evidence to the contrary all day. Simple statements from McCain like ‘I don’t know much about economics’ or ‘the fundamentals of the economy are stong’. It won’t swade you in the slightest because your part of the marching band.
A-10,
“The fundamentals of the economy are still strong. Worker productivity are [sic] up. Inflation is low. GDP is still growing.”
You just keep right on repeating that talking point here on this blog for rich old white men. There the only ones buying. Fundamentals has been re-defined to workers. Which Ironicly are being outsourced to other countries. So now fundamentals mean American ingenuity which is being hindered because schools are not properly funded and it’s becoming harder and harder to pay for proper university. Also, these this push for creationism to be taught in schools. So ah, fundamentals mean ah, freedom. Our economy is based in freedom, yeah thats it. McCain stands for freedom!
Sheesh.
heh, my two words were $100,000,000 Grow (The economy must be in good shape)
25. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Zach,
You obviously missed my point. My point was that instead of offering McCain’s solutions to the current problem you can only point and say Obama’s worse.
The video above says Obama Chaired a committee that had a 100 Million dollar budget. Obama’s laid out a very comprehensive plan for the economy. A simple google search will lead you to his plans or go to his website.
Fact is McCain cannot hold water compared to Obama on the economy. Even his campaign has stated this and their trying to deflect to Ayers. Yet here you are trumpping this meme about Ayers while saying McCain is better on the economy too. Reality is not in your corner Zach buddy.
26. hermie | October 7th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Obama as a member of the Illinois State Senate, did nothing to pull the reins in on the state’s horrible finance situation. He did nothing to stop runaway pensions, runaway spending, runaway taxes…he preferred to follow the Daley line…and run away from his responsibility.
He is very. very good about spending other people’s money, as per his first debate where he couldn’t even to pretend to pick a program of his he would cut or hold off on implementing.
27. neocon | October 7th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
….for rich old white men - SAR
SAR continues to reveal his inherent racism. How can we affect change when racism is part and parcel to the liberal agenda?
28. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Wow Neocon, your age is shinning through
29. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
SAR buddy..
No sir. It is you that is missing the point. I never stated that McCain is a economic wizard. And in fact you nailed with this statement:
“My point was that instead of offering McCain’s solutions to the current problem you can only point and say Obama’s worse.”
You’re right, I believe Obama is going to be worse than McCain on the economy and I’ve already explained why. McCain=limited spending, limited government. Obama=Bigger government, more spending.
I dont have solutions to this economic mess. I’m not an economist and I dont pretend to be one. I just believe that smaller government and fiscal responsibility are two huge solid steps to take in order to get out of this mess, and help in preventing another one.
30. neocon | October 7th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
SAR,
So it’s ok to accuse “rich old white men” for the troubles that ail America, but everyone else is not culpable, and that is not to be perceived as racist?
31. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
wow..This thread has gone waaaaaay off topic.
I suppose I’m partly responsible for that.haha
32. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
I had to LMAO when SAR spouts the nonsense that Ayers and Obama were going to “improve” education. Improve it how? Like this????
From Steve Diamond:
Thus, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was far more than just a chance for Ayers to engage in “radical” efforts to raise the political consciousness of young students. It was that but it was much more - it was a front in an important battle for control of the Chicago Public School system. In fact, according to the Ken Rolling, Daley himself tried to wrest control of the Annenberg grant money away from Ayers and Obama.
The Challenge was radical, but not the right wing’s simplistic view of “radicalism.” Rather it represented an authoritarian and bureaucratic agenda - a desperate attempt to use parents to control teachers through a politically correct curriculum, yes, but more importantly to use them as canon fodder in the battle to control teachers and administrators. This authoritarian approach is entirely consistent with Ayers’ long held political views as he has consistently sided politically with the most undemocratic regimes available, including most recently that of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.
And at Ayers’ side the entire time during this battle was his comrade-in-arms, Barack Obama, who served as President and Chairman of the board of directors of the Challenge.
33. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
PS Obots: Steve Diamond is a Democrat. Thank God, there are some in your party who have not been brainwashed.
34. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Both Stanley Kurtz and Steve Diamond should be highly commended for their intense investigation into the Ayers-Obama “friendly” relationship. Stanley’s articles can be seen at National Review and you can find Steve’s here:
http://globallabor.blogspot.com
35. Some Assembly Required | October 7th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Neocon,
Your putting words into my mouth. And you still have not answered my questions.
Zach,
It has gone off topic, but the topic is the problem to begin with.
Kim,
You really are getting rather desperate aren’t you.
Watch the debate tonight. If McCain primarily attacks Obama, McCain will drop in the polls faster then he’s already doing.
36. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Attack? Or force Obama to come clean? Big difference. Can’t wait to see Obama um and uh his way out of it.
“In works like “City Kids, City Teachers” and “Teaching the Personal and the Political,” Mr. Ayers wrote that teachers should be community organizers dedicated to provoking resistance to American racism and oppression. His preferred alternative? “I’m a radical, Leftist, small ‘c’ communist,” Mr. Ayers said in an interview in Ron Chepesiuk’s, “Sixties Radicals,” at about the same time Mr. Ayers was forming CAC.
CAC translated Mr. Ayers’s radicalism into practice. Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with “external partners,” which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn).”
http://kimberly.blogsforvictory.com/2008/10/06/obama-and-ayers-pushed-radicalism-on-schools/
37. Fool Disclosure | October 7th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
We have no reason to believe that Obama will be anything other than a Tax-and-Spend Democrat.
Just as we have no reason to believe that McCain will be anything other than a Splendiferously-Spendy-Cash-Catapulting-Drunken-Sailor-On-Leave-With-A-Fistful-Of-Credit-Cards Republican.
It’s not hard to see that the end result of an Obama Presidency will be Mediocrity. The end result of a McCain Presidency will be Anarchy.
38. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
So says the fool. Thanks for the good laugh.
39. Fool Disclosure | October 7th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
More happy laughs: Drunken rampaging Republican spendthrifts have spent eleventy-billion dollars on the War on Terror. You have to surrender your shampoo to fly to Florida, but meanwhile, here’s a domestic terrorist involved in Chicago School System politics.
Either he’s not a domestic terrorist, or we’re getting extremely poor value for our terror-crushing dollar.
40. nemesis | October 7th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
I hope McCain hammers this tonight.
41. Joe Bananas..in Pajamas | October 7th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
but meanwhile, here’s a domestic terrorist involved in Chicago School System politics.
My my, is this how low the reasoning has sunk down to?
42. js | October 7th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
first obama denies everything…then a few facts are disclosed…then he minimizes…then a few more facts are discloses…then obama belittles it…
it goes straight to his characture…honest men have nothing to hide…an honest man wouldnt need to hide his homosexual behavior…his cocain use…his communist beliefs…or even his criminal and terrorist connections…an honest man wouldnt need to hide his work record…
so whats that mean..
obama is far from honest…
he is an outright liar…
top that off with the con artist mentality of a thief..
and its pretty clear that he isnt presidential material….
so i wonder…what exactly does corrupt chicago politicians have over the dnc and howard dean that would make them put obama to the top of the list like this and make a mockery of ethics?
makes you wonder….
43. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Frankly I think John McCain needs to come out pissed. I think his handlers have been afraid to let him show too much “passion” or “agression” due to all the talk of his bad temper. I believe McCain has been bending over backwards trying to convince people that he is an even-tempered man.
44. coulterfan | October 7th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Ummm. . . Walter Annenberg is a lifelong REPUBLICAN! There were MANY Republicans on the same board as Obama and Ayers. . . did they ALL “Pal Around” with terrorists?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95442902
Moreover, Ayers is a English college professor and was never convicted of anything. . . unlike Keating whom McCain DID ‘pal around’ with.
And Palin has her own terrorist connection to the AIP which advocates succession from the US. The group’s leader hated the US and died in a plastic explosive deal gone awry (!!!!) and many from the AIP believe he was assasinated by the US government.
Palin addressed these terrorists THIS YEAR and her husband Todd was a member for YEARS. There is videotape of the AIP members endorsing Palin for AK Governor and saying they were infiltrating the government while pretending to be Republicans.
So what is the McCain camp saying? Are they REALLY saying that Obama is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer? What is there evidence for this accusation? Is every Republican who sat on the same board as Ayers ALSO a terrorist?
And what about Palin and her associations with the AIP? Why did she and Todd join this group AFTER the groups leader advocated violent succession and died in a plastic explosives purchase gone bad?
Who REALLY “pals around” with terrorists?
45. js | October 7th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
more poop on the pile;
the dnc and obama now want to stop discovery in the case that claims obama is not qualified to be POTUS because he is not a natural born citizen…
they say “Undersigned counsel for Defendants Democratic National Committee and Senator
Barack Obama hereby certifies pursuant to Local Rule 26.1(f) that the parties, after reasonable
effort, are unable to resolve the dispute that is the subject matter of Defendants’ Motion for
Protective Order Staying Discovery Pending Decision On Dispositive Motion.”
which effectively means that obama can not and will not prove his citizenship to settle this case…
another lie by obama…he was born in kenya and is not american…he is lying about this as well as everything else…
the man is downright dangerous
46. js | October 7th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
i see you been suckin on the crack pipe coulterfan….it really isnt that good for you…
47. Observer20 | October 7th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
coulterfan,
Wait one minute, Ayers wasn’t convicted due to prosecutor misconduct and illegal wiretapping as noted in the above video. McCain was acquitted of all charges and has a firm alibi for that entire Keating mess. Which sounds more suspicious, the one who got his case thrown out because someone was wire-tapping him, or the one that went under the speculation of the entire Federal Government and was found to be innocent not due to circumstance?
48. coulterfan | October 7th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Hey JS, if you have no facts on your side then all you can do is attack, right?
Here’s an article on the Palin’s connections to the AIP, founded by Joe Vogler:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/
The AIP is a terrorist group by definition. The Palins were members of the group.
Ayers, meanwhile, was selected by Republican Walter Annenberg to sit on his board. Obama was no closer to Ayers than any other member of the board, Democrat, Republican, and Independents.
Unless the McCain camp has something new to tie Obama to Ayers and his time in the Weather Underground, this line of attack is going NOWHERE!
But keep it up. Keep implying that Obama is a foreign terrorist. Keep yelling racist epithets during McCain and Palin’s rallies. Keep yelling “kill him” at the rallies without a rebuke from your candidates.
Now THAT is terrorism. To threaten violence against a Presidential candidate is, in fact, one of the WORST forms of terrorism. But your camp seemingly condones this sort of behavior by not condemning it directly.
Go ahead. Blame everybody else for the massive failure of the GOP. You will soon be seen as a small ‘regional’ party of racists, extremists, and smear merchants.
49. coulterfan | October 7th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
>>Wait one minute, Ayers wasn’t convicted due to prosecutor misconduct and illegal wiretapping as noted in the above video. McCain was acquitted of all charges and has a firm alibi for that entire Keating mess. Which sounds more suspicious, the one who got his case thrown out because someone was wire-tapping him, or the one that went under the speculation of the entire Federal Government and was found to be innocent not due to circumstance?
Was Obama involved with Ayers during his Weather Underground days? Where is your evidence for this? Are all Republicans (including Annenberg) who ‘associated’ with Ayers also terrorists?
And my point was that Ayers wasn’t convicted, but Keating was.
McCain received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Keating and showed poor judgement in his dealings with (and CLOSE personal friendship) to him. McCain was ‘palling around’ with a convicted felon and did his bidding for him (writing letters on his behalf pushing for deregulations which favored Keating).
In contrast, Obama had an acquantance with Ayers as did many Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. Unlike Keating, Ayers is not a convicted felon and Obama never did his bidding, wrote letters on his behalf, or took full-expenses paid vacations with him.
50. Moosetracks | October 7th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
At the debate Obama should not follow baby jesus Hannity’s smear game. Obama should ask McCain to join him in the present to improve our nation’s future. Talk of McCain’s Keating Five days doesn’t help pay the mortgage. Suggesting the dissing by McCain of his first wife and his first marriage’s wedding vows shows poor character will not put gas in the tank. Bringing up McCain’s board membership in the U.S. Council for World Freedom, an organization the Jewish Anti-Defamation League called a group of neo-Nazi sympathizer and Anti-Semites will not make healthcare affordable. Questioning McCain’s association with Plain’s husband who is a member of an organization that wants to pull down the flag of the United States flying over Alaska and secede from the union, will not advance the nations energy policy. I say so what Palin’s pastor’s claim to fame came from his ability to identify witches back in his native land; such knowledge will not improve the balance in anyones 401k plan.
The country has serious problems left behind by the most incompetent and partisan administration our nation has ever witnessed. I urge Obama to look to the future and not lower himself to the Republican swift-boat character assassination smears.
51. coulterfan | October 7th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
More on Palin’s connections to the AIP:
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-palling-around-wit.html
Since you all are so concerned with Ayers, you should be APPALLED at Palin’s MUCH CLOSER relationship to actual terrorist activity!
Did she KNOW about Vogler before joining the AIP? Did she KNOW about their radical views about succession when she addressed their Convention earlier THIS YEAR!?!?!?
Ayers is a college professor who has not been arrested since his trial. . . Vogler died while buying plastic explosives and advocated violence against the US!
52. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
That’s right, Coulterfan!!
AIP used explosives to bomb the US Capitol Building, the Pentagon, Police Stations, homes. They killed three police officers and injured many others. It was amazing no one else was killed as they placed explosives near schools and restaurants.
Oops.
Silly me. That wasn’t the AIP who has never killed anyone or used explosives to get their message out.
It was the Weathermen, of which William Ayers and his wife - CLOSE FRIENDS OF THE BOTH OBAMAS - were founders. Both have said they did not do enough. Both are unrepentant scums.
It doesn’t matter that Obama was “involved” with them during their time with the Weathermen Underground.
The point is he has been involved with them for YEARS. And, has LIED about it. Ayers is not just some guy in the neighborhood. Ayers has been grooming Obama to become POTUS so they can push their radical agenda.
Ayers and his wife are not FORMER radicals. They are, and always will be, radicals. And Obama is right there along beside them.
When did Obama meet William Ayers? Why did Obama go to Chicago where he knew no one? Why are there no friends or girlfriends from his past at Columbia? Why does no one except one professor remember this bright young lad? Where are his college records?
Do you think the MSM is going to keep hiding the truth about Obama should he become POTUS? Hell no. They can’t wait to report on it.
53. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Obama’s spokesman says OBAMA DID KNOW ABOUT AYERS’ PAST. Listen in the beginning. Of course, then he tries to backtrack. So which is? Did you know or didn’t you know? What a bunch of LIARS!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxlZ8xhkEZ8
54. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Robert Gibbs: Obama Did Know Ayers’ History
Listen to the beginning: “I wouldn’t be dumb enough to sit on the board with a terrorist.”
Uh, then why did your client?
Mark: “He continued to sit on a board with the knowledge of Ayers past?”
“Yes.”
That’s when, Gibbs probably thought, “Oh crap, what did I just say.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxlZ8xhkEZ8
55. js | October 7th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
there you go again coulterfan…you should be the poster child for that commercial…you know the one that says…this is your brain…and this is your brain on drugs…
you dont have a leg to stand on…and you want to get into a butt kicking contest…lol…you qualify for the mental midget award!!
56. CanadianObserver | October 7th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
41. Zach | October 7th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Frankly I think John McCain needs to come out pissed. I think his handlers have been afraid to let him show too much “passion” or “agression” due to all the talk of his bad temper.
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I, also, would love to see a pissed McCain at the debate tonight.
He should be allowed to show his true nature with a temper tantrum or two, while hurling expletives at his opponent.
I agree with you Zach, his handlers have him on too tight of a leash.
57. Fool Disclosure | October 7th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Why not take the time to know your Weatherpeople a little better. There’s a documentary called the “Weather Underground” that interviews many of the principal players extensively.
Michael Moore does not appear in the film at any point.
As I saw it, the film did not “make” me sympathize with these people. Admittedly, I was not inclined to do so before I saw it.
The Weatherpeople were murderously quaint, even going so far as to notify the various institutions that they bombed that there was a bomb in the building. They don’t make terrorists like that anymore.
Give it a shot. Afterwards, you will still be a Republican and won’t suddenly love Obama. It might be more interesting than going and seeing American Carol again.
58. coulterfan | October 7th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
>>It was the Weathermen, of which William Ayers and his wife - CLOSE FRIENDS OF THE BOTH OBAMAS - were founders.<<
Where is your evidence that they were ‘close friends’ and where is your evidence that Ayers is still involved in terrorism? So you would also call Annenberg and the other Republicans on the board out for ‘palling around’ with terrorists?
Further, Obama has expressly condemned Ayers for his involvement in the Weather Underground. He worked with Ayers on a REPUBLICAN School funding board.
Meanwhile, has Palin condemned the AIP for their CURRENT involvement with terrorism? Her husband was a member for 7 years. . . did they NOT KNOW about the group’s stance on “Alaskan Independence”? That’s sort of hard to believe, given what the initials AIP stand for!
So Obama has condemned Ayers for his WU involvement and Palin has addressed a terrorist group and thanked them for their “good work”!?!?!?
Again, who’s “palling around” with terrorists?
59. Danish Artist | October 7th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
When McCain became “pals” with Keating, Keating was not a criminal. The same CANNOT be said for Obama and Ayers.
Obama knew who he was, knew his background and political ties.
This boils down to judgement and liberal hypocrisy. For example, because Abramoff was seen in a security line at the White House, Bush is guilty.
….because Enron is based in Texas, Bush is guilty.
…. because Bush is an oil man, the Iraq war was for oil.
The liberal stupidity list goes on and on.
This relationship shows very poor judgement on Obama’s part and because Obama still has yet to come clean on an answer, rather than keep making poor attempts at downplay, shows that still poor judgement and a desire not to reveal anything further.
The man is unfit to be President, based on poor judgement and MOST OF ALL an extremely poor resume.
60. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Screw you, CF. We all know why Governor Palin was addressing the group (from her office). This has been debunked.
You have not read any of Stanley Kurtz or Dr. Diamond, have you? Read them and then get back to me.
61. coulterfan | October 7th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
>>The Weatherpeople were murderously quaint, even going so far as to notify the various institutions that they bombed that there was a bomb in the building. They don’t make terrorists like that anymore.
Give it a shot. Afterwards, you will still be a Republican and won’t suddenly love Obama. It might be more interesting than going and seeing American Carol again.<<
Give me some evidence that Obama is a member of the WU or sympathizes with them.
Again, Ayers is well-known and has sat on the board with both Republicans and Democrats. Does that mean they all share his views?
You people are crazy. If you really think Obama is a terrorist, you need your heads examined!
This distraction technique will not work. The American people are too smart to fall for it.
Let’s talk about how the Republican policies have bankrupted this nation!
62. kimberly4victory | October 7th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
CF, do you have a brain? Obama not only sat on a board with Ayers for 7 years, he also had his first coming out party at the Ayers’ home. They have done speeches together. Obama has even reviewed Ayers’ books for him.
William Sowell sums it up perfectly:
Associations are very different from alliances. Allies are not just people who happen to be where you are or who happen to be doing the same things you do. You choose allies deliberately for a reason. The kind of allies you choose says something about you.
Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Pfleger, William Ayers and Antoin Rezko are not just people who happened to be at the same place at the same time as Barack Obama. They are people with whom he chose to ally himself for years, and with some of whom some serious money changed hands.
63. Fool Disclosure | October 7th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Coulterfan has conflated my movie review with a statement that Obama has ties to the Weather Underground. Clearly, Coulterfan, your name is ironic, but your ability to detect irony is poor.
Or I am a crappy writer. It hardly matters. See the damn movie.