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If Caroline Kennedy is Fit to be Senator

by Mark Noonan on December 17th, 2008 at 05:54am

Then I’m fit to be Emperor - and anyone else who has a drunk uncle who swam away from a Buick is fully qualified to compete with her…


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  1. ohioorrin says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 8:29 am

    judging by the performance of our senators, who are mostly experienced, connected lawyers, I’ll take a regular citizen including caroline.

  2. amazona says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 9:33 am

    C’mon, leave Caro alone. She is photogenic and highly connected, with a political machine backing her up, and the Agenda Media fawning over her.
    If that will get you into the White House, why not a Senate seat?

    But orrin seems to be echoing what I said about Sarah Palin—that the idea of citizens going to Washington to serve, rather than having lifers there whose primary job seems to be to keep the job, is not a bad one. It appealed to the Founding Fathers, who envisioned that as the model for their new government.

  3. tiredoflibbs says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    This is the year of liberal rookies.

    If a rookie, namely inexperienced Obama can be president. Then, Caroline Kennedy can surely be Senator of New York.

    The precedent has been set.

  4. retiredspook says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    She’s certainly every bit as qualified as the lady she would be replacing was 8 years ago.

  5. William Teach says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Funny thing is, even Excitable Andy things she is not qualified. Matter of fact, after he gets done with personal assaults on Sarah Palin, he says Palin is way more qualified to be a Senator.

  6. fr00tn00b says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    Her drunk uncle did blah blah blah….

    George Bush (not his uncle) has a DWI (or is it DUI?).

    Dick Cheney (not his uncle) drank a beer, then shot a guy in the face.

    Newt Gingrich (not his uncle) had multiple affairs, including one when he was mad at Clinton for having an affair.

    John McCain (not his uncle) crashed his plane into power lines. And had sex with a woman who was not his wife because his wife had been through an accident and was too ugly for him.

    Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff (not their uncles) supported a slave-labor system in Saipan that forced women to have abortions, calling the institution a “shining light for all that the Republican Party represents.”

    If they’re fit to occupy their positions that they hold/once held then, hell, I’m entitled to…be the King of England…

  7. William Teach says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Do you have an actual point about Caroline, fr00, or are you just going moonbat? And yes, that is a personal attack, which is what your comment deserves.

  8. fmrmarine says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    fruit00b

    I see we have a new troll with the same moronic donkROACH talking points.

    Scooter Libbey?
    Oh yeah the guy who couldnt remember facts of a three year old conversation about someone as it turned out was NOTa covert operative = 0 crime!
    So he “LIED” to protect what?

    how about this……….
    The Clintons, to adapt a line from Dr. Johnson, were not only corrupt, they were the cause of corruption in others. Yet seldom in America have so many come to excuse so much mendacity and malfeasance as during the Clinton years. Here are some of the facts that have been buried.

    RECORDS SET

    - The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
    - Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
    - Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
    - Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
    - Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
    - First president sued for sexual harassment.
    - Second president accused of rape**
    - First first lady to come under criminal investigation
    - Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
    - First president to establish a legal defense fund.
    - First president to be held in contempt of court
    - Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
    - Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
    - First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

    * According to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate. A reader computes that there was a total of 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned. A key difference between the Clinton story and earlier ones was the number of criminals with whom he was associated before entering the White House.

    http://www.prorev.com/legacy.htm

    or

    http://www.prorev.com/legacy.htm

  9. Sergei Andropov says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    John McCain (not his uncle) crashed his plane into power lines. And had sex with a woman who was not his wife

    At the same time.

    Seriously, the charge that John McCain crashed eight or twelve or however many planes has about as much merit as the charge that Ted Kennedy murdered Mary Jo Kopechne. It is true that he clipped some power lines once, but all that did to his plane was singe the paint job.

  10. Sergei Andropov says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    - Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*

    * According to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate. A reader computes that there was a total of 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes…

    86 government officials were indited in just one of the Grant administration’s many, many scandals.

  11. fmrmarine says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    fruito69

    GET REAL…..

    Kwame M. Kilpatrick, the mayor of Detroit who has been embroiled in legal problems stemming from a sex scandal , pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and resigned his office

    D.C. Mayor Marion Barry was arrested on charges of possession of cocaine last night at the downtown Vista International Hotel after a fast-moving undercover investigation by the FBI

    “If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate.” — M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC

    “First, it was not a strip bar, it was an erotic club. And second, what can I say? I’m a night owl.” — M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC

    “Bitch set me up.” — M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC

    “The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist.” — M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC

    Last week the committee agreed to investigate Massachusetts Democrat Barney Frank, who has admitted that he had an affair with a male prostitute.

    henry (nostrils)waxman

    H. CON. RES. 396
    Supporting the goals and ideals of the Day of Silence and encouraging units of local government, States, and school districts to protect lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender students, teachers, and school employees from discrimination and harassment.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    March 25, 2004
    Mr. ENGEL (for himself, Ms. BALDWIN, Mr. PALLONE, Ms. DELAURO, Mr. FARR, Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mrs. MALONEY, Mr. OLVER, Mr. DELAHUNT, Mr. SERRANO, Mr. HOLT, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mrs. LOWEY, Mr. TOWNS, and Mr. ANDREWS) submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committee on the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

    Since President Clinton’s election in 1992, a season can’t change without yet another member of his administration getting his or her own personal independent counsel. Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt is still in hot water, as Janet Reno extends the probe into his dealings with a Wisconsin Indian casino; former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy was indicted on 39 counts for his alleged appetite for free lunches and other gifts; former HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros faces charges that he took hush money; and former Energy Secretary Hazel O’Leary is in trouble for allegedly demanding a $25,000 charitable contribution from Johnny Chung. Not to mention the never-ending array of accusations against Vice President Gore and Clinton himself.

    Rep. Albert Bustamante (D-Texas) was convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges

    Rep. Walter Fauntroy (D-Washington, D.C.), the nonvoting delegate from D.C., was charged with lying on a financial disclosure He pleaded guilty in 1995 to the felony.

    Rep. Carroll Hubbard Jr. (D-Ky.) pleaded guilty in 1994 to conspiring to defraud the Federal Elections Commission and to the theft of government property. Hubbard received a three-year sentence.

    Rep. Joseph Kolter (D-Pa.) pleaded guilty in May 1996 to pocketing $9,300 from the House post office.

    Rep. Nicholas Mavroules (D-Mass.) got 15 months in a minimum-security prison in 1993 after pleading guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office.

    Rep. Mary Rose Oakar (D-Ohio) pleaded guilty in 1997 to two misdemeanors for funneling $16,000 through fake donors. She faces up to two years in prison.

    Rep. Carl Perkins Jr. (D-Ky.) pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the FEC, writing illegal checks, and filing false personal finance disclosure statements

    Rep. Mel Reynolds (D-Ill.) ran unopposed in 1994, despite (eventually proven) charges of criminal sexual assault and child pornography.

    Rep. Dan Rostenkowski (D-Ill.) was indicted in 1994 on 17 felony charges, including the embezzlement of $695,000 in taxpayer and campaign funds.

    # Rep. Larry Smith (D-Fla.) was sentenced in 1993 to three months in federal prison for income tax evasion.

    Rep. Walter Tucker III (D-Calif.) won in 1994 despite a pending indictment that he took bribes while mayor of Compton. In 1996, he was sentenced to 27 months in prison for extortion and tax evasion.

    On September 24, 2008, the House Ethics Committee announced an investigation into Rangel’s alleged failure to report rental income or pay taxes on a beach rental property in the Dominican Republic, allegedly living in multiple rent-subsidized apartments in New York City while claiming his Washington, DC home as his primary residence for tax purposes, alleged use of congressional stationery to solicit donors for a public policy institute in his name at City College, and other alleged questionable activities.[2]

    Federal Indictment

    On June 4, 2007, Rep. Jefferson was indicted on 16 criminal counts, including two counts of conspiracy to solicit bribes, two counts of solicitation of bribes by a public official, six counts of honest services fraud by wire, one count of violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, three counts of money laundering, one count of obstruction of justice and one count of racketeering. The indictment stems from multiple instances in which Rep. Jefferson agreed to perform official acts for 11 different companies in return for bribes payable to him and his family members. The indictment was the culmination of a criminal investigation that began in approximately March 2005.

  12. fmrmarine says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    segwaydropout

    KID…….. your mere 22 years on this earth are showing,

    has about as much merit as the charge that Ted Kennedy murdered Mary Jo Kopechne.

    Now step away from your marxist handlers, leave commie berkley, and eduacte your self.

    Your childish historical ignorance is quite boring.
    Go rent outback mountain or some other ” work of art” more suited to you and your ilk.

  13. fr00tn00b says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    OK. I don’t defend all that, FMRmarine…

    Bill Clinton got bop. So what? You’re just jealous because that’s more action than you’ve gotten in your entire life. At least that didn’t blatantly go against his oath of office. Bill Clinton did not lead this country into the worst economic decline since the great depression, in fact, during his years, we saw unprecendented economic growth, as well as a national budget surplus, as compared the the hundreds of billions deficit we have today (and a 10 trillion dollar deficit). BIll Clinton did not lie our country into a war that has claimed more than 100,000 lives. Bill Clinton did not go against the Constitution with illegal wiretap programs. Bill Clinton did not send agents to his attorney general who was not able to, at the time, fulfill his duties, in an attempt to authorize such an unconstitutional program. Bill Clinton did not destroy our international reputation. Bill Clinton did not have a VP who shot people after drinking. Bill Clinton did not tool around with Lobbyists who went to Saipan supporting slave labor factories that forced women to have abortions. Bill Clinton did not participate (nor did any of his staff participate in) leaking a CIA agent’s identity. Bill Clinton did not torture people. Bill Clinton did not sell weapons to terrorists for hostages. Bill Clinton did not watch as a major American city drowned. Bill Clinton did not manipulate election results to get into office. Under Bill Clinton, there were ZERO major terrorist attacks from overseas terrorist organizations (OK City, and the WTC in 93, a month after he took office, but that’s all). Bill Clinton funded our troops body armor, instead of sending them into combat with outdated equipment. Under Bill Clinton the number of abortions in the US declined, rather than increased. Under Bill Clinton, jobs were created, not destroyed. Under Clinton, wages increased, and living standards increased.

    My point about Caroline is that she is just as much (in fact, way more) suited to Senate than those people were to their positions, Willy Teach.

    Your accusations:
    1- He got bop. So what? See above.
    2- Fuck them. Guilty = Guilty. But what did they plead guilty to? Subverting the constitution? Not so serious. Also, we haven’t had guilty pleas from this admin, which makes it worse, in a way, because it means they don’t have the balls to fess up.
    3- See above.
    4- Testify about what? the BJ? See above. Killing Arkansas teenagers by hitting them with a train? (Rush Limbaugh actually accused him of that). Rape? Was he ever convicted? Nope.
    5- First, where the fuck did you get this stat? Second, define “die suddenly”. Third, proof of any wrongdoing? I see none.
    6- See above. No conviction.
    7- See above. No proof.
    8- I don’t remember this. For what? Please elaborate. Betcha it wasn’t something like, say, subverting the constitution. (Honestly, the level of contempt for the Constitution in the current admin is just astoundingly high).
    9- “Largest criminal plea agreement”. Nice careful phrasing there. MANY prez’s have been involved in illegal campaign money (and prez candidates). Clinton is not unique. And it’s not like he STOLE the f###ing election.
    10-11- that’s only because we didn’t have a pansy-ass (sorry– excuse the french here) Democratic caucus. We had a bloodthirsty angry Republican caucus that wanted to f### this guy over.
    12-13- greatest amount, yes. Not the only prez ever involved. see above. Also, he won by a large enough margin that this didn’t make a difference. And, again, it’s not like he had his possum Kathy Harris to steal the election for him.
    14- So? For what, again?

    You accuse me of having the same talking points, but you Republicans make me f###ing SICK because your talking points consist of:

    1) IT’S ALL CLINTON’S FAULT
    2) 9-11! 9-11! 9-11!
    3) Bush is god.
    4) Support the troops.
    5) You’re a traitor.
    and 6) UNPATRIOTIC!!!

    Right. Sorry Sergei. Thanks for setting the record straight or whatever.

    But FMRmarine: which is worse?
    Screwing an intern?
    or
    Screwing a country?

    If you like where you are now better than you were eight years ago, you’re either delusional, rich enough not to give a sh*t, or you’re high.

    I love you guys. All of you.

    fr00tn00b

  14. fr00tn00b says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    I wonder how that line will play out…

  15. fr00tn00b says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    Also, FMRmarine, your comment 12 contains nothing whatsoever. Much like many of your other comments.

    Good night, all!

  16. fr00tn00b says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Also, FMRmarine, it’s pathetic that he’s 22 years old and is way smarter than you are. Fcking pwned you….with facts.

    n00b.

  17. fmrmarine says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    segwaydropout

    GAWD another rotten kennedy….

    - Chappaquiddick has been called “the most brilliant cover-up ever achieved in a nation where investigative procedures are well developed and where the principles of equal justice prevail, at least during some of those moments where people are watching.”
    ~ The Last Kennedy by Robert Sherrill - The mysteries of the case continue to haunt Ted Kennedy as well as the authorities who investigated them. Charges of ineptitude and lack of diligence abounded, as did insinuations that the machinery of justice crumbled beneath the power and prestige of the Kennedy family. George Killen, former State Police Detective-Lieutenant, and chief of a never-revealed investigation, lamented that the failure to bring the case to a satisfactory conclusion was “the biggest mistake” of a long and distinguished police career. Senator Kennedy, he said, “killed that girl the same as if he put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger.”
    ~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore

    See Police diver John Farrar’s testimony suggesting that Mary Jo Kopechne survived for as long as two hours in the submerged automobile by breathing a pocket of trapped air.

    -click- - Learn how Senator Kennedy spent the nine hours after the accident attempting to cover-up his involvement, while Mary Jo Kopechne was left to die in his submerged automobile.

    John F. Kennedy was plagued by the venereal disease chlamydia and spent the first moments of the Bay of Pigs invasion getting a giant shot of penicillin.

    Robert F. Kennedy served as one of the most trusted advisors to his brother, President John F. Kennedy, on matters of civil rights. Although Martin Luther King boldly criticized the attorney general and the Department of Justice for its failure to investigate civil rights violations,

    in 1960. Between campaigns Kennedy served as legal assistant to Senator Joseph R. McCarthy during the infamous House Un-American Activities Commission hearings.

    The cheating brothers

    There are a number of credible people who claim that Marilyn Monroe had affairs with one or both Kennedy brothers. John Kennedy, at least, was known to indulge himself in extramarital adventures. So, it is not at all implausible that President Kennedy availed himself of the charms of one of the sexiest and most attractive women of that era. That Robert Kennedy was so inclined is also clear.

    http://www.ytedk.com/drivingrecord.htm

  18. fmrmarine says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    fruitloop069

    Fcking pwned you….

    Ha Ha Ha, LOL
    now go back to your crack pipe.

  19. fmrmarine says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    frootfag

    WTF???

    YOU are truly a sick demented ASSHAT
    now back to the crack pipe with marion berry yo daddy!

    1- He got bop.

    2- Fuck them. Guilty =in a way, because it means they don’t have the balls to fess up.

    4- Testify about what? the BJ? that). Rape? Was he ever convicted? Nope.
    5- First, where the fuck

    9- “Largest criminal plea agreement”. Nice careful phrasing there. MANY prez’s have been involved in illegal campaign money (and prez candidates). Clinton is not unique.
    10-11- that’s only because we didn’t have a pansy-ass angry Republican caucus that wanted to f### this guy over.
    s possum Kathy Harris to steal the election for him.

    , but you Republicans make me f###ing SICK because your talking points consist of:

    1) IT’S ALL CLINTON’S FAULT
    2) 9-11! 9-11! 9-11!
    3) Bush is god.
    4) Support the troops.
    5) You’re a traitor.
    and 6) UNPATRIOTIC!!!

  20. simianrice says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Mark,
    I remember a while back you talked about running for office…
    Sounds like jealousy is rearing its ugly head.

    The title of the thread should be: If she is fit for for Senator…why am I too lazy to run for office?

    Stop complaining and actually go out and make a difference.

  21. Mark Noonan says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 1:19 am

    simian,

    Such things have their proper timing - probably around January 21st.

  22. Sergei Andropov says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 2:45 am

    Now step away from your marxist handlers, leave commie berkley, and eduacte your self.

    It may surprise you to learn this, but the Chappaquiddick incident has never come up during any of our discussions of the definite direct object marker râ, or the existence of split ergativity in Iranian languages, or the PIE root *dʰwer(H). Everything that I know about it, I learned by educating myself.

  23. Sergei Andropov says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 2:47 am

    Oops. Should be “*dʰwer(H)-”, not “*dʰwer(H)”.

  24. cam1 says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Is Caroline Kennedy qualified to be Senator? I don’t know. But that does not matter. The key to being a good US Senator is not qualifications but the ability to represnt the voters of New York.

    The person who goes to Washington from this post is just a messanger who carries the message of her constituents to Congress and votes accordingly.

    The prevalent problem are Senators and Representatives who go to Congress after receivig the vote of the people and then betraying that trust by voting against the will of the people.

    The cause for all of this is the unrelenting buying of access that is legal under the laws governing our campaingn finance system. While we all gasped in horor when we heard the proposals that at the least were be implied by the tapes from Blago we continue to allow all of the legal corruption that continues in the name of “free speach”. While unspoken quid pro quo is implied by every disproportionate campaign contibution, it is only when we are beaten over the head with the bat of corruption that we even notice how we are being abused by those who are supposed to represent us.

    So, the key is not whether Caroline Kennedy is qualified but whether she intends to go to Washington with a message from the people that she will clearly transmit with the votes she casts.

  25. atheistmule says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 11:03 am

    “If a rookie, namely inexperienced Obama can be president.”

    George Bush came in with a lighter resume. Six years as Governor, and before that? The co-owner of a baseball team.

  26. js02 says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 11:20 am

    whatta ya mean lighter resume? obama never sat at the head of state one time…and his greatest achievement was while working for acorn he sued citi bank into enacting policies that were a core cause of the financial meltdown this year in the banking industry….a hired hit man with a crow bar…lol….while bush created corporations and was head of state for texas for 6 years…

    oh…its you…i suppose its preety hard to be deaf dumb and blind and get things right…

  27. atheistmule says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    “whatta ya mean lighter resume? obama never sat at the head of state one time…and his greatest achievement was while working for acorn he sued citi bank into enacting policies that were a core cause of the financial meltdown this year in the banking industry….a hired hit man with a crow bar…lol….while bush created corporations and was head of state for texas for 6 years…”

    So many lies… why entice a troll like you into lying anymore?