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		<title>By: tiredoflibbs</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/03/17/socialized-medicine-fails-again/comment-page-1/#comment-164976</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredoflibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>froot,

The UN found &quot;lots of stuff unaccouted for&quot;?

So, in other words they are accounted for?

Then why haven&#039;t they (UNSCOM) retabulated their numbers?  Look it up! They haven&#039;t.

Did I mention AQ in the whole post?  No.

You are using old debunked MOVEON.ORG talking points.  Those talking points are so 2005!  Come back when have modern information.  You are still bitter about the &quot;fraudulent&quot; president?  That admission right their shows us what a useful idiot lemming you are.  After all the independent recounts, GWB still won.  Get over it!  Hint: He is no longer President so it doesn&#039;t matter what you believe.

As far as the whole socialist argument.  I know the definition of socialism and it applies.  I had that argument with oralndo.  These countries have the socialism philosophy, but are not named as such. Why are you so afraid of the word &quot;socialism&quot;?

Name-calling?  Can&#039;t take the heat stay out of the kitchen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>froot,</p>
<p>The UN found &#8220;lots of stuff unaccouted for&#8221;?</p>
<p>So, in other words they are accounted for?</p>
<p>Then why haven&#8217;t they (UNSCOM) retabulated their numbers?  Look it up! They haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Did I mention AQ in the whole post?  No.</p>
<p>You are using old debunked MOVEON.ORG talking points.  Those talking points are so 2005!  Come back when have modern information.  You are still bitter about the &#8220;fraudulent&#8221; president?  That admission right their shows us what a useful idiot lemming you are.  After all the independent recounts, GWB still won.  Get over it!  Hint: He is no longer President so it doesn&#8217;t matter what you believe.</p>
<p>As far as the whole socialist argument.  I know the definition of socialism and it applies.  I had that argument with oralndo.  These countries have the socialism philosophy, but are not named as such. Why are you so afraid of the word &#8220;socialism&#8221;?</p>
<p>Name-calling?  Can&#8217;t take the heat stay out of the kitchen.</p>
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		<title>By: fr00tn00b</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/03/17/socialized-medicine-fails-again/comment-page-1/#comment-164914</link>
		<dc:creator>fr00tn00b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no major socialist country in the world.  You should really do some research before you come across as more ignorant than you already have.  China&#039;s &quot;socialism with Chinese characteristics&quot; is really capitalism.  Russia is also capitalist now, though the echoes of communism, i grant you, are still present (and creeping back with Putin).

Anyway, though the UN found lots of stuff unaccounted for, they also realized that they had not found WMD in Iraq, and informed the US.  They turned out to be right, we were wrong (or we were lied to by your fraudulently elected prez-- yes I&#039;m still bitter).  Saddam also had no ties to al Qaeda.

Are you really so dumb that you continue to subscribe to the philosophy that Iraq had both WMD and ties to bin Laden?
Both of those claims were disproved years ago, and several people lost their jobs (remember Colin Powell?  He was bitter enough about the lies and being the fall guy that he went for Obama last election).  Mark, please grow up.  There is no call for insulting me angrily simply because you&#039;re wrong.  There&#039;s bound to be disagreement on this blog.  If you can&#039;t handle it without degenerating into juvenile name-calling, don&#039;t comment at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no major socialist country in the world.  You should really do some research before you come across as more ignorant than you already have.  China&#8217;s &#8220;socialism with Chinese characteristics&#8221; is really capitalism.  Russia is also capitalist now, though the echoes of communism, i grant you, are still present (and creeping back with Putin).</p>
<p>Anyway, though the UN found lots of stuff unaccounted for, they also realized that they had not found WMD in Iraq, and informed the US.  They turned out to be right, we were wrong (or we were lied to by your fraudulently elected prez&#8211; yes I&#8217;m still bitter).  Saddam also had no ties to al Qaeda.</p>
<p>Are you really so dumb that you continue to subscribe to the philosophy that Iraq had both WMD and ties to bin Laden?<br />
Both of those claims were disproved years ago, and several people lost their jobs (remember Colin Powell?  He was bitter enough about the lies and being the fall guy that he went for Obama last election).  Mark, please grow up.  There is no call for insulting me angrily simply because you&#8217;re wrong.  There&#8217;s bound to be disagreement on this blog.  If you can&#8217;t handle it without degenerating into juvenile name-calling, don&#8217;t comment at all.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredoflibbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredoflibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>froot,

Yes, the UN made excuses for Saddam, protected him as much as possible even by disregarding their own resolutions!!!

How many UN ambassadors were receiving cash payments and oil from the &quot;oil for food program&quot; from Saddam to protect him?

The truth?  The UN&#039;s division, whose responsibility was to count and witness the destruction of Saddam&#039;s WMDs, own count showed TONS of weapons, shells, biological, chemical and nuclear material not accounted for!!!

The UN&#039;s reaction to this, stall for even more time to count weapons that Saddam would not give them access to!

You are another useful idiot lemming who has no brain cells between your ears.  It is nothing but a void, maybe Saddam&#039;s WMDs are hidden there in that grand space.

Unbelievable!

The UN is and has been controlled by socialist countries by socialist  ambassadors.  They would be more apt to promote their belief rather than promote a system of higher quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>froot,</p>
<p>Yes, the UN made excuses for Saddam, protected him as much as possible even by disregarding their own resolutions!!!</p>
<p>How many UN ambassadors were receiving cash payments and oil from the &#8220;oil for food program&#8221; from Saddam to protect him?</p>
<p>The truth?  The UN&#8217;s division, whose responsibility was to count and witness the destruction of Saddam&#8217;s WMDs, own count showed TONS of weapons, shells, biological, chemical and nuclear material not accounted for!!!</p>
<p>The UN&#8217;s reaction to this, stall for even more time to count weapons that Saddam would not give them access to!</p>
<p>You are another useful idiot lemming who has no brain cells between your ears.  It is nothing but a void, maybe Saddam&#8217;s WMDs are hidden there in that grand space.</p>
<p>Unbelievable!</p>
<p>The UN is and has been controlled by socialist countries by socialist  ambassadors.  They would be more apt to promote their belief rather than promote a system of higher quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Noonan</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/03/17/socialized-medicine-fails-again/comment-page-1/#comment-164782</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Noonan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>French,

The UN?

Q.E.D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>French,</p>
<p>The UN?</p>
<p>Q.E.D.</p>
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		<title>By: fr00tn00b</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/03/17/socialized-medicine-fails-again/comment-page-1/#comment-164739</link>
		<dc:creator>fr00tn00b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonjour.  comment ca va?  Pas bien, evidemment, avec mark, tired, etc.

Je suis vraiment desole que mon pays a des salopes comme mark, tired, fmr, etc.

Anyway, the UN is not &quot;the most anti-american group in existence&quot;.  That would be al Qaeda.  

They &quot;made excuses for Saddam&quot;????

You mean, they told the F***ING TRUTH about the WMD and ties to al Qaeda?  

Also, tired.  US citizens up near Canada go there (illegally) routinely for cheap medical treatment.  Mark: just because we have some gov&#039;t aid does not mean we have a public health care system.  There are still corporations running insurance for people, and our system is still based on profit, not the health of the consumer....another problem with private medicine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonjour.  comment ca va?  Pas bien, evidemment, avec mark, tired, etc.</p>
<p>Je suis vraiment desole que mon pays a des salopes comme mark, tired, fmr, etc.</p>
<p>Anyway, the UN is not &#8220;the most anti-american group in existence&#8221;.  That would be al Qaeda.  </p>
<p>They &#8220;made excuses for Saddam&#8221;????</p>
<p>You mean, they told the F***ING TRUTH about the WMD and ties to al Qaeda?  </p>
<p>Also, tired.  US citizens up near Canada go there (illegally) routinely for cheap medical treatment.  Mark: just because we have some gov&#8217;t aid does not mean we have a public health care system.  There are still corporations running insurance for people, and our system is still based on profit, not the health of the consumer&#8230;.another problem with private medicine.</p>
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		<title>By: orlando</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/03/17/socialized-medicine-fails-again/comment-page-1/#comment-164620</link>
		<dc:creator>orlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It sounds like overall the plan is working.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, but that has no bearing on the thinking of people like Mark. He finds the mere concept distasteful, so he&#039;s automatically against it. And if he&#039;s against it, it must be &quot;liberal.&quot; And that must mean that by definition, it&#039;s a failure, even when it&#039;s a success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It sounds like overall the plan is working.</i></p>
<p>Yes, but that has no bearing on the thinking of people like Mark. He finds the mere concept distasteful, so he&#8217;s automatically against it. And if he&#8217;s against it, it must be &#8220;liberal.&#8221; And that must mean that by definition, it&#8217;s a failure, even when it&#8217;s a success.</p>
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		<title>By: tiredoflibbs</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/03/17/socialized-medicine-fails-again/comment-page-1/#comment-164570</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredoflibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frenchy answers:

&quot;The United Nations&quot;

Wow, now there is an upstanding group of corrupt individuals - the most anti-American group in existence.

They also made excuses for and protected Saddam while many of them were on his payroll.

Why do citizens of countries with socialized medicine coming to the United States for treatment?  Why aren&#039;t they flocking to France?

Loser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frenchy answers:</p>
<p>&#8220;The United Nations&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, now there is an upstanding group of corrupt individuals &#8211; the most anti-American group in existence.</p>
<p>They also made excuses for and protected Saddam while many of them were on his payroll.</p>
<p>Why do citizens of countries with socialized medicine coming to the United States for treatment?  Why aren&#8217;t they flocking to France?</p>
<p>Loser.</p>
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		<title>By: frenchstudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>frenchstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mark Noonan says: 
March 18th, 2009 at 12:11 am 
french,

And who rates it “best”?
&quot;

The United Nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mark Noonan says:<br />
March 18th, 2009 at 12:11 am<br />
french,</p>
<p>And who rates it “best”?<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>The United Nations.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Noonan</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/03/17/socialized-medicine-fails-again/comment-page-1/#comment-164560</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Noonan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fool,

Have you no sense at all?  We haven&#039;t had a private health care system since the 1960&#039;s...and just when did health care costs start to skyrocket?  Right after Medicare and Medicaid were enacted in the 60&#039;s.  We have high health care costs because the government has distorted the market for health care - its the same reason we have high education costs.  Get government out and allow the market to decide and I guarantee you it won&#039;t cost $1,000 a night just to lie in a hospital bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fool,</p>
<p>Have you no sense at all?  We haven&#8217;t had a private health care system since the 1960&#8217;s&#8230;and just when did health care costs start to skyrocket?  Right after Medicare and Medicaid were enacted in the 60&#8217;s.  We have high health care costs because the government has distorted the market for health care &#8211; its the same reason we have high education costs.  Get government out and allow the market to decide and I guarantee you it won&#8217;t cost $1,000 a night just to lie in a hospital bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Noonan</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/03/17/socialized-medicine-fails-again/comment-page-1/#comment-164559</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Noonan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>french,

And who rates it &quot;best&quot;?  People who like socialized medicine.  How about we send a group of American conservatives to audit France&#039;s health care program?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>french,</p>
<p>And who rates it &#8220;best&#8221;?  People who like socialized medicine.  How about we send a group of American conservatives to audit France&#8217;s health care program?</p>
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