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Have at it, boys and girls…talk over the speech last night, how bored you are with Obama, how tiresome this whole debate has become, how tedious liberals can be…hey, wait a sec: that’s what they want! They’re trying to bore is in to submission!
Wake up! And lets make some fun of liberals.
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The government has done a disgraceful job with VA healthcare, and Medicare and Medicaid are going broke. Is it too much to ask to have government clean those programs up, and begin to run them efficiently before subjecting the rest of us to their incompetence?
Or is sucking Obama’s dick to delicious to pass up for gabby, joe and canadien?
Is gabby seriously concerned about a state assemblyman in California? She’s such a joke.
there go the vulchers again…fighting over dead issues…worthless debate about useless points…
you cant fly with the eagles if you are bickering with vulchers folks…they cant figure out what the truth is so what use is arguing with them going to do…besides confuse the real issue…
READ THE BILL….THATS ALL YOU NEED…THE TRUTH…THE WHOLE TRUTH….AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH…
Obama Lies And Gives Illegals HealthCare
Concerned American to Concerned American:
Last night an angry Obama lied to the nation about extending his NO Enforcement – Open Border Amnesty Policy to ObamaCare. He said his plan would not apply to illegals and Congressman Joe Wilson called him on his lie. Just cross the border and enter a government clinic and you can get free health care paid for by U.S. taxpayers. Don’t worry your illegal status will not be questioned ObamaCare has no mandatory proof of U.S. citizenship. What a country! Obama is already letting 3.6 million illegal aliens in the country every year and he plans to make us pay for their health care.
50 Illegal aliens WILL JUMP America’s borders while you read and be
ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE
Harry Reid has vowed to pass Amnesty and with open U.S. borders to Mexico and he will allow anyone to enter the country. Senator Schumer is ready to introduce another Amnesty Bill and the illegal immigration issue is now merging with Health Care.
$31 Billion For 6.6 Million Illegals For GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE
According to The Center for Immigration Studies is an independent research institution that examines the impact of immigration on the United States GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE could benefit 6.6 Million Illegals and cost taxpayers up to $31 Billion.
On July 30 an amendment by Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA) that would have required identity variation for those claiming U.S. birth was defeated by the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
However 83% of Americans Say Proof of Citizenship Should Be Required to Get Government Health Aid
Opposition to illegal aliens and any form of Amnesty to illegals without a green card and that will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE was evident at town hall meetings across the country dealing with ObamaCare.
OW!
California is on the verge of bankruptcy and Our Government has yet to stop the invasion of illegal aliens.
Take a look at that always shining gem of political know-how, the state of California which is looking more like Mexifornia everyday and your state is next.
A List of 10 Facts Caused by the Illegal Invasion From the L. A. Times.
40% of all workers in L. A. County are working for cash and not paying taxes. They are predominantly illegal aliens working without a green card and will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.
95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens and they will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.
75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens they will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.
Over 66% of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers and they will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.
Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican Nationals here illegally and they will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.
Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages and they will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.
The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border and they will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.
Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegals and they will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.
(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County) The fact that California is on the verge of bankruptcy is just a coincidence right? It has nothing to do with illegal aliens, right? 60% of Americans agree that illegal aliens are the cause of this and they do want them to be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.
25 New illegal aliens JUST CROSSED our border while you are reading and will be ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE
This is the kind of change Obama is rushing at break neck speed to impose on the 97% of Real Americans that work hard for a living. It is time to stand up for what the majority of Americans believe in a free America, where the government represents the people, not use them for their own gains.
New polling information could become a political death blow to Obama’s plans to radically overhaul America’s Health Care and Immigration Laws!
Rasmussen Reports has released polling data showing that 83% of Americans oppose illegal immigrants or illegal aliens receiving any “government health care subsidies”. Opposition crossed all racial, gender, and political party lines. Only 12% of those surveyed support health care subsidies for illegals.
This new fusion of the Health Care and Illegal Immigration debates combined with new polling data showing a super majority of Americans oppose the Obama plans for Health Care and Immigration Reform may be dead on arrival.
But we must make our voices heard and defeat this bill just like all previous Amnesty Bills have been stopped.
ObamaCare is lagging in the poles and losing support and Obama’s call for Obamites in local communities to lobby for Socialized and Rationed Health Care is failing because there are just too many unanswered questions.
Not surprisingly people are getting pretty nervous, as well they should. So OBAMA NOW SAYS HE WANTS HIS SOCIALIST MOVEMENT IN CONGRESS TO VOTE since the effort to “get out there, fight lies with truth, and set the record straight” has failed.
the pdf version might be better for ya
http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
Congressman Joe Wilson (R-SC) issued an apology after his outburst, “you lie,” toward President Obama during his health care speech to Congress on Wednesday. “I let my emotions get the best of me,” Wilson said in a statement. “I extend sincere apologies to the president.” We commend Wilson for his quick humility. But questions remain:
Did Obama tell lies during the speech? Was Wilson right after all? And why doesn’t Obama apologize just as quickly for calling conservatives liars? In their fact-checking, the press confirmed FIVE WHOPPERS told by the President himself:
OBAMA LIE #1: “No federal dollars will be used to fund abortions.”
THE TRUTH: The Capps Amendment to HR 3200 has a Section 4B that reads: “Abortions for Which Public Funding Is Allowed. — The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted.” The Washington Times reported: “You can’t get more explicit than that.” And FactCheck.org exposed Obama’s lie too: “Despite what Obama said, the House bill would allow abortions to be covered by a federal plan and by federally subsidized private plans.” So President Obama lied, plain and simple.
OBAMA LIE #2: “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits either now or in the future. Period.”
THE TRUTH: The Democrat controlled Congressional Budget Office said Obamacare would add $220 billion to the deficit over 10 years, but will not succeed at shrinking the overall costs of our nation’s health care. Republicans claim it’s more like $600 billion increased deficit spending. (Confirmed by Associated Press, 9 Sep 09.) Either way, Obama lied.
OBAMA LIE #3: “Don’t pay attention to those scary stories about how your benefits will be cut…That will never happen on my watch. I will protect Medicare.”
THE TRUTH: The Washington Post reports Obama proposes “to squeeze more than $500 billion out of the growth of Medicare over the next decade….[which has] fueled fears that his effort to expand coverage to millions of younger, uninsured Americans will damage elder care. As a result, barely one-third of seniors support a health-care overhaul, several polls found.” (Washington Post, 9 Aug 09) Even the Post admits, Obama lied.
OBAMA LIE #4: “If you lose your job or change your job, you will be able to get coverage.”
THE TRUTH: Whether working or not, rich or poor, you will be ordered to get mandatory government-run health-care coverage, or pay a fine a $3800 fine per family, under the new Senate plan being railroaded through the finance committee by Max Baucus (D-MT). (New York Times, 9 Sep 09). Obama pretends you’re “able” to get coverage, when he knows it’s mandatory (with a big tax increase or “fine” penalty). Obama lied. But the biggest of all…
OBAMA LIE #5: “The claim, made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens, such a charge would be laughable if it weren’t so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple.”
THE TRUTH: Mandatory “end of life” counseling in HR 3200 “shall” include counseling every 5 years to the elderly, giving doctors a monetary incentive to persuade you to sign a “do not resuscitate” (DNR) order to pull the plug on Grandma, just like the Obama administration already pressures all Veterans to sign them. (Confirmed by the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal, read extensive details at http://www.prayinjesusname.org.) And under the British NHS government-run health plan, “Patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under an NHS scheme to help end their lives, leading doctors have warned.” (The Daily Telegraph, 2 Sep 09). Dr. Ewing Cook just admitted intentionally killing patients who signed DNR authorizations during Hurricane Katrina. “I gave her medicine so I could get rid of her faster…there’s no question I hastened her demise.” Bottom line: Grandma, don’t sign Obama’s DNR order, even if your doctor gets a bonus check from the President for talking you into that.
Obama lied at least five times during his speech. Congressman Wilson was right after all.
Obama did lie. The Congressional Research Service found, “Under H.R. 3200, a ‘Health Insurance Exchange’ would begin operation in 2013 and would offer private plans alongside a public option…H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on non-citizens—whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently—participating in the Exchange.” The Democrats’ plan contains no requirement that patients verify citizenship, just as the National Council of La Raza requested this summer. (Since Obama has yet to deliver on amnesty, he has to offer something.)
CO
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heck a person can be a moral liberal for that matter and have nothing to do with the Bible…fartotheright.
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I agree with that, fartotheright, 100%.
Morality and the Bible; you can have one without the other.
Doubt very much if Jeremiah or the other Bible thumpers would support your comment, though.
I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits either now or in the future. Period.”
to be fair, this is not a lie. ONE DIME will not be added to the deficit. 220 billion or more dollars will.
it’s like the riddle: 2 coins add up to 30 cents, one of them isn’t a nickel. answer: a quarter and a nickel…the quarter is not a nickel.
very crafty mr. president.
CO
Morality and the Bible; you can have one without the other.
just not truth,
the truth is only found in the Bible,
that leads you to Christ, and he is “the truth the light and the way” “NO MAN goes to the father but by me”.
So moral with out Jesus is fruitless.
neocon1 says: September 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
stop reading the kkk, err – make that milita talking points & consider re the LAT 10 –
1) 40% working for cash? who’s paying ‘em amigo? think hard now…suburban pukes & small biz.
2) 95% murder warrents? JAIL IS FREE GOVT HEALTH CARE. and who do u think they’re killing? think hard…that’s right – other illegals! (that makes u happy doesn’t it?, fess up).
3) 75% most wanted? ditto FREE JAIL CARE. and think hard who they’re stealing from…it aint brittany in the burbs. comprendo?
4) 66% births? guess what?… the baby’s an AMERICAN CITIZEN moron. and no ER can possibly turn-away a woman in labour regardless. jheesh.
5) 35% inmates get FREE JAIL CARE.
6) Illegal gang members, squatters, etc go to the ER as needed for THE MOST EXPENSIVE HEALTH CARE BESIDES SPECIALISTS.
lemme guess – you’d have all ER’s turn away anyone w/o proof of citizenship & an insurance card? riiiight, that’ll work.
maybe stick to popcorn & “Birth of a Nation”.
00orrin
stick to stealing time from your employer by posting here,
you are as useless to us, as you must be to him,
we have caught on to you, he hasnt -yet.
so tell all about the dreaded “burbs” you hate so much thief.
at least in the city you are among your own the dredges of society, and it shows in spades.
CO, history shows that there have been many civilizations that are not Christian or Jewish that have had a moral code. You can have morals without the Bible, just not Biblical moral values. Here in America there are non-Christians that live their lives by many Judeo-Christian values, but have no religion in their lives. And some moral values cross all or most cultures, such as prohibition against murder, or stealing.
some moron wants to talk about “moral liberal”…what a contradiction…conservative values are based on liberty justice and freedom…and bound by the truth…this is the core basis of a moral majority in this nation…and nothing can spin it without turning into a lie…
but face it…liberals are all for abortion…this is the crux of the issue…if you are for killing unborn children…you cant claim a moral code…your dignity that is required for that moral justice is trash…its like trying to put out the fire with gasoline…senseless…useless..and disasterous…
stop bickering with the vulchers…they are mental midgets…stooges extrordinire…nothing they have can or will bring good fruit…its a rotten tree…cut it down
All we have to do is look at history.
For more than 200 years, the United States of America has stood as a beacon of freedom and opportunity, with hundreds of millions of people giving up everything, risking everything, just to be able to live here and experience the joys and responsibilities and opportunities offered by this nation.
When we have put up barriers along our borders, it has been an effort to control the flood of people who understand the benefits of freedom and who want to take advantage of the freedom, free market capitalist economy, and the ability to advance according to talent and ambition.
On the other hand, there is not one single Socialist, Communist, or Fascist nation which has had any record of political or economic success. On the contrary, these nations have had to erect barriers to keep their people IN the country, as they have been willing to risk everything, even their lives, to flee.
You can compare the records of the United States with any socialist regime, anywhere, at any time, and all you will find is the vast successes of our way of life, our government, and our economyl, compared to the misery, subjugation, intolerance, and general failure of Leftist-based governments.
The RRL is asking us, basically, to turn our backs on history, to ignore facts, to pretend that the unbroken list of disasterous political experiments known as Socialism (or Communism, or Fascism, all just different points on the same Leftist spectrum) do not have anything to do with THIS political experiment, THIS incarnation of Socialism. THIS one will be different. THIS one will work—finally. THIS one will succeed, will meet the quixotic goals of the ideology without subjecting us to the domination goals of the power-hungry. For some unexplained reason, we are supposed to buy into the fantasy that history is irrelevant, that there is nothing at all wrong with doing the same thing and expecting different results.
And who supports this “new” Leftist movement? The same people who defend Stalin, who idolize Marx and Lenin, who drool over Castro and suck up to Chavez. Ignore the slave camps, the millions upon millions slaughtered to put down poltiical opposition, the people willing to float for days on inner tubes through shark-infested waters just for the chance of freedom. Ignore all that, because THIS Leftist movement is somehow different.
Yet no one can tell us how or why it is different. We are just supposed to believe it is………………
And to ignore the fact that its cheerleaders are the most pathologically vile people on the Internet, people we would never allow into our homes or lives, people who thrive on conflict and ugliness and viciousness.
If WC Fields would never belong to a club that would have him as a member, I can’t for the life of me understand how anyone could belong to an ideology which such as gabrielle finds appealing. Ick…..
js02, I usually ignore such as these trolls, but today they are offering too many opportunities to illustrate their nastiness and their utter stupidity.
neocon1 says: September 10th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I’m monitoring my polymer R&D project undergoing laser shearograpghy interrogation & analysis which is a lengthy, complex process. my intervention is needed only w min 3 sigma anomalies.
so far only half sigma deviation fm center spec.
my stuff is good as usual.
Amazona;
Hey girl………..don’t use my nick when you are bitching out some leftist knuckle dragger.
I went to a Christian College……..I be a right winger. We didn’t have radical leftists………we did have a couple hippies who wore bib overalls though.
Reread my post on this thread.
But back tp the thread topic suggested: I found the speech completely predictable, lots of words with little content, some lies, and of course the increasingly tiresome spectacle of Obama preening for the cameras, strutting his supposed charisma and counting on to carry the day, and being utterly boring.
And, again, it was more of a campaign speech than anything else—and he is still running against Bush. Uh, anyone in the White House got a calendar? Maybe it’s time to sit Barry down and point out that he has been in the White House for eight months now and it is time to start acting like a president instead of a whiner.
And someone needs to get hold of him and get him to change that creepy sing-song cadence of his.
Great Speaker? NOT………..
Amazona; JS02
I thought this was a good article……
this is something the FOREIGN trolls who rove here and unfortunately some leftist/marxist domestic enemies also, do not understand
>>>>>”Alexander’s Essay – September 10, 2009
Rule of Law (Part 2)
“[W]here is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation deserts the oaths…?” –George Washington
Publisher’s Note: This essay is the second of a two-part seminal treatise on Constitutional Rule of Law in advance of Constitution Day, 17 September, the 222nd anniversary of our national Constitution. (Read part one, Rule of Law.) The combined essay is published as the forward to our new Constitution booklets. On Constitution Day, The Patriot will announce a major education initiative promoting the Right construction of our Constitution and Rule of Law.
A “Wall of Separation”?
George Washington wrote in his Farewell Address of 1796, “Let it simply be asked where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation deserts the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in the Courts of Justice? And let us with caution indulge the opposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that National morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”
Our Founders affirmed that the natural rights enumerated in our Declaration of Independence and, by extension, as codified in its subordinate guidance, our Constitution, are those endowed by our Creator.
Thomas Jefferson proclaimed, “The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time. … Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever.”
Alexander Hamilton insisted, “The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for, among old parchments, or musty records. They are written, as with a sun beam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.”
“Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness…” These are natural rights — gifts from God, not government.
Moreover, it was with firm regard to this fact that our Constitution was written and ratified “in order secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” As such, it established a constitutional republic ruled by laws based on natural rights, not rights allocated by governments or those occupying seats of power.
John Quincy Adams wrote, “Our political way of life is by the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God, and of course presupposes the existence of God, the moral ruler of the universe, and a rule of right and wrong, of just and unjust, binding upon man, preceding all institutions of human society and government.”
Notably, the conviction that our rights are innately bestowed by “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,” is enumerated in the preambles of every state constitution of our Union.
But, for many decades, those who advocate a “living constitution” have used the “despotic branch” to remove faith from every public quarter, ironically and erroneously citing the “Wall of Separation” metaphor — words that Jefferson wrote to denote the barrier between federal and state governments, not to erect a prohibition against faith expression in any and all public venues.
The intended consequence of this artificial barrier between church and state is to remove the unmistakable influence of our Creator from all public forums, particularly government education institutions, and thus, over time, to disabuse belief in a sovereign God and the notion of natural rights. This erosion of knowledge about the origin of our rights, the very foundation of our country and basis of our Constitution, has dire implications for the future of liberty.
A republic … if you can keep it…
At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Benjamin Franklin was asked if the delegates had formed a republic or a monarchy. “A republic,” he responded, “if you can keep it.”
To that end, as a warning for future generations to beware of “cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men,” Washington wrote, “A just estimate of that love of power, and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of this position.”
John Adams cautioned, “A Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.”
Today, our Constitution is the oldest rule-of-law charter governing a sovereign republic. It authorizes a republican form of limited government with the express aim of defending individual rights, which are the gift of God.
Unfortunately, and at great peril to our liberty, our Constitution has for years suffered at the hands of “cunning, ambitious and unprincipled” politicians and judges who recognize only vestiges of its original intent for governance. Consequently, constitutional Rule of Law has been undermined by those who have deserted their sacred oaths to “support and defend” the same.
Our legacy of liberty, bequeathed to us by generations of American Patriots, is at risk. If we are to extend liberty to the next generation, we must renew our commitment to this animating contest of freedom as ordained by God, and as set forth by our nation’s Founders in the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.
While the words “conservative” and “liberal” are ubiquitously used to describe party alliances, these words more essentially describe whether one advocates for the Rule of Law, or the rule of men; for the conservation of our Constitution as the Founders intended, or its liberal interpretation by “progressive” legislators and judicial activists.
It is well past time that we each ask of ourselves: “Which do I advocate?”
The role of, and limitations upon, our central government were and remain defined by the supreme law of the United States, our Constitution, as adopted, and aptly defended in The Federalist Papers.
Those of us who endorse the most basic tenets of our Republic, “That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,” are called to honor that heritage and set about the formidable task of restoring individual liberty and constitutional limits upon the branches of our national government.
On liberty
The words of these Patriots ring as true today as they did at the dawn of our nation:
“The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure Virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People … they may change their Rulers, and the forms of Government, but they will not obtain a lasting Liberty.” –John Adams
“Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them.” –Thomas Jefferson
“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!” –Alexander Hamilton
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” –Benjamin Franklin
“If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands, which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” –Samuel Adams
“Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” –Patrick Henry
“If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.” –Thomas Paine
To support and defend…
The last line of our Declaration of Independence reads, “For the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.”
Indeed, many first-generation American Patriots died fighting for American liberty.
A decade later, their liberty won at great cost, our Founders further codified their independence and interdependence by instituting our Constitution, which specifies in Article VI, clause 3:
“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath [emphasis added] or Affirmation, to support this Constitution…”
The Constitution prescribed the following oath to be taken by the president-elect: “I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend [emphasis added] the Constitution of the United States.”
Regarding the Presidential Oath of Office, Justice Joseph Story wrote: “[T]he duty imposed upon him to take care, that the laws be faithfully executed, follows out the strong injunctions of his oath of office, that he will ‘preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.’ The great object of the executive department is to accomplish this purpose.” Story wrote further that if the president does not honor his oath, his office “will be utterly worthless for … the protection of rights; for the happiness, or good order, or safety of the people.”
Members of Congress and commissioned military personnel are also required by statute to “solemnly swear, that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic: [emphasis added] that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”
The oath for enlisted military personnel repeats the preceding affirmation, “that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same,” and concludes with, “I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
The subtle distinction between officer oath and enlisted oath is that officers are bound to disobey any order that violates our Constitution, while enlisted personnel are bound to obey only lawful orders.
Notably, these oaths mandate the preservation, protection, support and defense of our Constitution as ratified, not a so-called “living constitution.” And by extension, every American Patriot who has taken such an oath is bound by his or her pledge to also support and defend the Constitution’s foundation, the Declaration of Independence, and the Declaration’s basis, Natural Law.
As we speak, and while uniformed Americans serving our nation defend our Constitution with their lives, many elected officials debase it by enacting extra-constitutional empowerments of the central government, invariably to appease special constituencies or to perpetuate their office. Or to do both.
Though military service personnel who violate their oaths are remanded for courts-martial under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, politicians who violate their oaths are often rewarded with re-election. However, those who do not abide by their oaths, elected officials first and foremost among them, must rightly and justly be removed from office, posthaste, and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
If you have ever taken an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic,” [emphasis added] and you remain steadfast in your pledge to “bear true faith and allegiance to the same,” then take time to administer that oath to those who have not.
If you are among those who have not yet taken this oath, request its administration from a fellow Patriot who has, and stand ready to abide by it when duty calls.
Principium Imprimis
If there is to be a peaceful transfer of liberty to our posterity, then we must return to principium imprimis, or First Principles.
Short of another American Revolution to remove by force those who do not abide by their oaths, our freedoms cannot long endure unless we, the people, reaffirm what was well understood by our Founders: that our Creator is the only eternal assurance of liberty.
The primacy of faith must be restored in order to preserve the conviction that, as Jefferson wrote, our “liberties are the gift of God”; traditional families and values must be restored as the foundation of our culture; individual rights and responsibilities must be restored as the underpinning of republican government; free enterprise must be unbridled from government constraints; and constitutional authority over each branch of government must be restored to ensure liberty, opportunity and prosperity for a civil society.
The Cycle of Democracy has been accurately summarized as:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty (rule of law);
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage (rule of men).
Our Founders established a democratic republic, not a democracy, in order to enfeeble this cycle, but with the erosion of constitutional authority, our Republic is now in grave peril of following the same cycle as have all other democracies in history. Only intervention by citizens and leaders who advocate for the primacy of constitutional authority, those committed to supporting and defending that authority above their self-interest, can save the Republic for the next generation.
Irrevocably linked to liberty ensured by constitutional Rule of Law is economic liberty.
Nineteenth-century historian Alexis de Tocqueville once observed, “[Democratic Republics] and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”
In 1916, a minister and outspoken advocate for liberty, William J. H. Boetcker, published a pamphlet entitled The Ten Cannots:
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away man’s initiative and independence.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for themselves.
Fact is, the central government cannot give to anybody what it does not first take from somebody else.
And none can claim the name “American Patriot” if they comport with or adhere to laws and regulations which violate our Constitution.
At its core, the word “patriot” has direct lineage to those who fought for American independence and established our constitutional Republic. That lineage has descended most directly through our history to those who have pledged “to support and defend” our Constitution — those who have been faithful to, and who have abided by, their oaths, even unto death. On behalf of those gallant souls, Samuel Adams asked, “Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen and then ask yourself, What should be the reward of such sacrifices?”
The time is at hand when Patriots must inquire with a unified voice, “If there is no constitutional authority for laws and regulations enacted by Congress and enforced by the central government, then by what authority do those entities lay and collect taxes to fund such laws and regulations?”
On July 4th, 1776, our Declaration of Independence, this nation’s supreme manuscript of incorporation, asserted, “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government…”
Our Declaration’s principal author, Thomas Jefferson, also wrote, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. … Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.”
While one hopes and prays that liberty can be restored and extended to our posterity without discord or rebellion, history does not favor such prospects.
Fellow Patriots, until the next Continental Congress is convened, I implore you to make no peace with oppression, and I leave you with these words of encouragement from the Father of our Nation, George Washington: “We should never despair. Our situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new exertions and proportion our efforts to the exigency of the times.”<<<<<<<<
SOOOO sorry, uffy–of course the knuckle-dragger in question is ufgators. I am wrong, you are right, and you certainly can’t be blamed for having your name attached to such pap as gator spouts.
uffy
I believe she mixed you and ufgator nics up.
We all know you are the real deal, and ufgator is a troll.
How many thought last nights speech by the moron who currently occupies the white house amounted to an arrogant disertation on the failings of the individual and America?
This egostistical, wanna-be dictator needs to go.
js02, liberals do have morals, they are just twisted and perverted. They are also relativistic and shift like sand in the wind, whatever fits there relativistic needs is what they are today, tomorrow you never know. It’s a morality of convenience. It’s also has the, “This morality is good for me but I apply this other morality to you, because it suits me to do so.”, morality.
cluster
after he was rightfully called out on his monumental lies, the entire republican senate should have stood up and walked out.
Instead they cravenly sucked up his rubbish then demanded an apology from the one and only person to tell the truth that night.
OUT with them ALL!!!
PS today he is groveling with apologies , and soon will be kissing the rings of al sharpton and je$$e jackson on natl TV.
Fox, as usual you completely miss the point. The people detained by the government were not arrested for what someone claimed they were thinking in the deepest recesses of their minds. They were enemy combatants, picked up on the field of battle as they tried, often successfully, to kill Americans.
And there is simply no Constitutional guarantee of any right whatsoever to an enemy combatant taken on a battlefield in another country as he tries, often successfully, to kill Americans. Nor is there any Geneva Convention regulation for due process or anything else for ununiformed enemy combatants killing others without reperesenting a signatory nation in a declared war.
Take my analogy a step further: I decide not to rob the bank but while digging out my ID I place the gun, which I have decided not to use, on the teller’s desktop. Now, though I have not actually tried to rob the bank, I have taken an action which would justify—demand–that I be taken into custody. Later charges would depend on how the fact that I carried a gun into the bank could be interpreted.
Love the way you just toss in the Lefty opinion that what Bush authorized was torture. Again, keep trying, but you are fighting an uphill battle and no one but your fellow travelers is buying your claims.
You continue digging. You claim that I have a dilemma, which, according to you, is best described as “..whether or not the office remains worthy of respect if occupied by someone you disagree with.”
No, you are wrong. Again. First, I have no dilemma, and second, the office itself is ALWAYS deserving of respect, even when occupied by morons like Carter and Obama. Don’t put words in my mouth.
You go on to say: “Also, there is a method of holding the President accountable for his words and actions. It’s called impeachment.”
That is ONE way of holding the President accountable. Another is to not let him simply repeat lies withot contradiction. Another is to formally challenge his comments in debate form. Another is to outline his lies in media outlets, and in this administration those outlets willing to investigate the lies of the President are limited to conservative talk shows, as the Complicit Agenda Media are now invested in protecting the president and not in reporting what happens. Another is to vote out his Congressional support. Another is to vote him out and elect someone else. Another—-but you get the idea.
Surely not even you, with your vast scope of political illiteracy, can believe that the only way to hold the president accountable is to impeach him.
You offer an opinion, which you state as fact: ” It’s not shouting out “YOU LIE” in the middle of a presidential speech…” and then waffle a little by saying “…. especially when what you’re shouting it out about isn’t actually a lie…” (emphasis mine)
So it’s not ACTUALLY a lie? Hmmm. What is it, ACTUALLY? Just an innocent little misstatement? A clever parsing of words? A misdirection which falls just short of an a ACTUAL full-fledged LIE? A kinda-lie? A sorta-lie?
It was not true. He tried to present a statement as true when he knows it is not, and he got called on it. The method by which he was called on it was not very smooth or polished, but it was not a matter of great outrage, either. It’s not as if Wilson sneaked into the speech wearing some goofy T-shirt under his clothes and then ripped off the disguise, whipped out a large prepared banner, waved it around, and yelled that the President is a murderer. No, he just blurted out what so many millions of Americans were thinking. Two words. Oh, the horror………………
Every time I hear someone say that Medicare has provided good, cost effective health care, I laugh. If it is so good, why do the people who administer it and are eligible to use it prefer to keep their more expensive private insurance? I know several nurses (one being my mother) who work for a third party payer doing fraud reviews, and the three that are over 65 have all looked into the cost of a part B plan as compared to the companies insurance. Guess what, they kept the private insurance even though it was more expensive. It was just plain, better than Medicare with Part B. When people who know how the plan is administered wants nothing to do with it – that should say it all.
BTW – Tort reform would be great. I left working as a Medication Aide because I was told I needed to get malpractice insurance. Think about it, you are going to sue the employee earning $10 per hour because you can. Where is the logic in that?
Neocon… are you really FmrMarine???
Illegal aliens WILL JUMP America’s borders while you read and be
ELIGIBLE FOR FREE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE
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Wrong again
Read the whole article
joeboston says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Neocon… are you really FmrMarine???
Not even maybe.
some think i used to be neocon…wrong again.
I am who I always have been neocon1
so some “fact check” article is your holy grail?
No wonder we have this fake in the WH
Amazona-
It is YOU who is mindlessly repeating talking points.
What did the (Republican appointed) special prosecutor say about Plame?
Seems pretty clear that Plame was covert and that her identity as a covert agent was NOT known.
The GOP has been claiming that it was ‘well known’ that she worked for the CIA, but has not presented ONE testimony that this is the case! In fact, their neighbors were questioned under oath and they had NO IDEA that she worked for the CIA.
Some other nuggets…
And neocon you dismiss factcheck.org, yet at 2:11 you copy and paste something you must consider your holy grail. Where did you get yours from?
JoeBoston-
It’s funny that these rightwing kooks are defending Rep. Wilson when clearly HE was the one lying!
EVERY SINGLE independent fact check has shown that HR3200 explicitly disallows illegal immigrants from participating in the exchange! Either Rep Wilson is stupid or he KNOWS this (and is himself lying).
Again, underneath all of this Republican faux outrage are false claims meant to stir up racist sentiment amongst the base. The President was speaking the truth to the rightwing lies, and they hate being called out on it.
coulter,
You liked that “dick” comment didn’t you. Got kind of excited right? Just imagine Obama with his big hands on your ears feeding it to you.
And oh by the way……..
By the mid-1990s, the veterans health-care system was in deep crisis. A quarter of its hospital beds were empty. Government audits showed that many VHA surgeons had gone a year without picking up a scalpel. The population of veterans was falling sharply, as aging World War II and Korean War vets began to pass away. At the same time, a mass migration of veterans from the Snowbelt to the Sunbelt overwhelmed hospitals in places such as Tampa with new patients, while those in places such as Pittsburgh had wards of empty beds.
Serious voices called for simply dismantling the VA system. Richard Cogan, a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities in Washington – The New York Times in 1994
Now who was President in 1994?
joe,
Thing is, we’re not as stupid as you think – a “public/private” advisory committee will work out to “government” advisory committee. Who do you think will decide who is on the committee? Who do you think will pick up the tab? Just what sort of people will Obama’s Administration seek out for such positions?
Slice it and dice it all you want, but Obama’s plan is for a government take over of our health care system.
EVERY SINGLE independent fact check has shown that HR3200 explicitly disallows illegal immigrants from participating in the exchange! Either Rep Wilson is stupid or he KNOWS this (and is himself lying)…coulterfan
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And yet we still get insane rant after insane rant from folks like Amazona, neocon1, js02 et al. refusing to acknowledge their blind acceptance of these blatant falsehoods.
Why??
coulter
underneath all of this Republican faux outrage are false claims meant to stir up racist sentiment amongst the base.
I wondered how long, and what moron, would be the first to deal the race card from the bottom of the deck on this subject…you win.
the back seat limo ride with b.hussein starts tonight as your prize.
bring your napkin.
joe
from what I read employers are mandated by law to provide this healthcare, with fines for non compliance going into the general fund.
Employees also are forced into this healthcare and 2+ % of adjusted income at tax time would be the penalty for non compliance.
It is also illegal for police medical etc to ask for proof of one’s citizenship.
Our immigration laws are being ignored completely as they were during the bush years, so what is going to change this?
forced enrollment in anything is a step toward complete govt control.
co
a foreign national like you wouldnt understand,
do your self a favor and stay out of someones elses problems, business and arguments.
You as an outsider wouldnt understand, and look ridiculous beyond the pale.
http://www.icyou.com/topics/politics-policy/truth-about-obamas-health-care-reform-hr3200-medical-insurance-act-social-sec
Illegal aliens to benefit from health care reform bill: Congressional Research Service
27. August 2009 00:22
Tuesday, the Congressional Research Service (CRS), the “research arm” for the United States Congress, issued a report validating an analysis by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), that illegal aliens would be able to receive benefits under the House health care reform bill, America’s Affordable Health Care Act of 2009 (H.R. 3200).
The report, Treatment of Noncitizens in H.R. 3200, states definitively, “H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitizens – whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently - participating in the Exchange.” H.R. 3200 establishes a Health Insurance Exchange which would provide individuals and small businesses with access to health care plans, including the “public option” to be managed by the government.
CRS also confirms FAIR’s assessment that the House bill does not include a mechanism to prevent illegal aliens from receiving “affordability credits” that would subsidize the purchase of private health insurance. CRS specifically noted the absence “of a provision in the bill specifying the verification procedure.” Because the language is ambiguous, all CRS could reasonably conclude is that any eligibility determination would be the responsibility of the Health Choices Commissioner.
The CRS analysis comes after weeks of denials by Members of Congress that illegal aliens could receive benefits under the House bill. These denials were echoed by countless media and health care “experts” who dismissed public concerns as myths, or as politically orchestrated attacks.
“Case closed. Illegal aliens will be eligible to participate in the health care program offered by the House bill unless Congress acts to amend the bill,” stated Dan Stein, president of FAIR. “The loopholes and omissions in the House bill are not there by accident,” continued Stein. “These loopholes were intended to extend benefits to illegal aliens while allowing Members of Congress to deny those facts to the American people.”
The House Ways & Means Committee had the opportunity to include language that would have barred illegal aliens from enrolling in the proposed public option or receiving the affordability credits, but chose not to. An amendment offered by Rep. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) would have applied the same eligibility verification procedures for coverage under H.R. 3200 that have been used for years to prove eligibility for Medicaid. That amendment was rejected by a party-line vote.
Based on its own findings and those of CRS, FAIR is calling on Congress to:
* Adopt clear language that makes illegal aliens (and nonimmigrants) ineligible for enrollment in publicly funded or subsidized health insurance programs.
* Require electronic eligibility verification for any health care reform proposal through the existing Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system.
* Maintain a five-year eligibility waiting period for legal immigrants to ensure that individuals don’t come to the U.S. and immediately tap the system.
“For the past month, irate citizens, concerned that their tax dollars will be used to fund health care for illegal aliens, have been unfairly portrayed as uninformed rabble by their elected representatives and a host of media organizations,” said Stein. “It is time for the politicians to close the loopholes, and for the media establishment to acknowledge that they got it wrong.”
Source: http://www.fairus.org
No, it’s because he wants everyone else to conduct themselves in a way that defends the ’sanctity of marriage’ and is prepared to pass laws to enforce that. Meanwhile, he’s banging 2 other women in an unprotected manner and joking about it with colleagues.
It’s the hypocrisy stupid.
But, lemme guess, if he just says a prayer to the invisible sky-daddy saying he was wrong, then all is OK again?
flimflam:
“But, lemme guess, if he just says a prayer to the invisible sky-daddy saying he was wrong, then all is OK again?”
Are you saying Spitzer and his prostitute didn’t say “Oh GOD, Oh GOD”? Or how about that Dem Florida Rep who was banging his mistress when he was banging a 2nd mistress?
Scandals are bipartisan………..live with it. As long as guys think with their dicks they will always be dicks!
uffy
dont forget ole barney frank banging his gay prostitute lover and a gay page boy.
joe,
Any health insurance policy doesn’t say anything about rationing, but you leftists always cite the rationing talking point for private insurance. Can you be any more gullible? Please stop cutting and pasting talking points.
“But, lemme guess, if he just says a prayer to the invisible sky-daddy saying he was wrong, then all is OK again?”
“Invisible sky daddy”? – I believe we have another FORKER here in disguise again!
gab
Even we posted that as a “humor” column.
where is that hells daily newspaper?
for some bottom feeding, scum sucking, filthy porno rag,
littered with homos, dykes and perverts, what else would one expect?
2 ACORN Employees Fired, Could Face Criminal Charges
Thursday, September 10, 2009
An employee at ACORN’s Baltimore office advises a couple posing as a pimp and a prostitute during a videotaped meeting in July.
The community organizing group ACORN has fired two employees at its Baltimore office who were seen on hidden-camera video giving advice to a man posing as a pimp and a woman pretending to be a prostitute, as some legal experts raise questions over whether the employees broke the law.
WOO HOO !!
the cockroaches scatter when the light of day exposes them.