Democrats, make my day:
A group of House Democrats introduced legislation Tuesday that would overturn a federal marriage law that denies recognition of gay marriage and gives states the right to refuse recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states.
Same-sex marriages are now legal in six states.
The Respect for Marriage Act, unveiled by Reps. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., and Jared Polis, D-Colo, has the support of more than 90 lawmakers.
The legislation would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), a 1996 law signed by President Bill Clinton.
This is the “first step to overturning DOMA,” Nadler said, who called the law “irrational and hateful.”
“Democracy doesn’t always get it right,” said Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., who also supports the Respect for Marriage Act. “This should have been corrected a long time ago.”
I love the Orwellian name – “Respect for Marriage”…naturally chosen because liberals would prefer if the average Joe out there doesn’t realize that what is happening is changing the law so that, say, Nevada can be forced to recognize gay “marriages” from Massachusetts. Even on the issues they care most about, liberals feel it necessary to lie.
The plain fact of the matter is that the American people have spoken: gay marriage is not wanted. Only by thwarting the will of the people is gay marriage legal, anywhere…and now Democrats want to allow a judicial back-door for imposing gay marriages in States which have explicitly rejected it. Democrats push this, and we’ll make all sorts of hay over this attempted usurpation of the rights of the States, and of the people.
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DOMA & Roe are bad federal law & states rights issues.
some states will, some wont.
Just last November, one of the most liberal states in the union, California, overwhelmingly voted down same sex marriage.
Do the elected democrats represent their broader constituencies? Or strictly pander to special interests?
>>I love the Orwellian name – “Respect for Marriage”…naturally chosen because liberals would prefer if the average Joe out there doesn’t realize that what is happening<<
Hey, it worked for Bush! The “Clear Skies Initiative”, which (as Bill Maher pointed out) was designed to Clear the sky of BIRDS!
How about the ‘Patriot Act’? THAT’S not Orwellian, is it? To call anyone who votes against it because of clauses which allowed warrantless searches of homes and library records “Unpatriotic”. . . even though it’s actually unconstitutional to search and seize without a warrant! Funny how that works!
Indeed, I believe in limited government intrusion on our personal rights (I have a STRONG libertarian streak in me, as least in terms of social issues). What could be a more fundamental freedom than deciding who one can marry? Isn’t deciding one’s own family one of the very fundamental “freedoms”?
Why should the Federal government tell us who we can and can’t marry? What business does the government have in telling us what we can do with consenting adults in our own bedrooms?
Hey, “Conservatives”. . . where in the Constitution does it talk about marriage??? Maybe we should have something in the Constitution about Anniversaries and Birthdays?
coulter,
As a conservative, I am concerned about your limited freedoms due to the patriot act. Please provide a detailed list of the actual violations to your personal freedoms that act has inflicted upon you, and I will personally pay for an attorney to represent you.
And in re: to the institution of marriage. If the people of this country, through organized petitions, wish to bring an issue to the government for legislation, shouldn’t they have that right? That’s what the GLTB coalition has done, so you” have to ask them why the government is involved in the marriage debate.
OK?
Why should the government be involved in marriage AT ALL? I thought you folks believed in ‘limited government’?
Bob Barr, a prominent Conservative, has criticized the “Patriot Act”:
“He voted for the first Patriot Act,[53] but only after his amendments adding “sunset clauses” were added to the final bill.[54] Barr played a similar role during the debate over Bill Clinton’s Comprehensive Anti-terrorism Act of 1995, crafting pro-civil liberties amendments to the original text.[55] He now publicly regrets[31] his Patriot Act vote.["
"Since leaving Congress in 2003, Barr has become a vocal opponent of the Patriot Act and has stated that he voted for it reluctantly[14] and regrets voting for it, only agreeing because the Bush administration promised not to attempt to expand the granted powers or use them for non-terrorism purposes, and the administration agreed to report to Congress on their usage.[73] Barr says that the Bush administration promptly ignored these three promises given to Congress and has used the powers granted from the Patriot Act to further erode due process of law even in matters unrelated to terrorism.[73] Barr claims that the Clinton administration did much of the same thing.[31] In 2005 — the year the Patriot Act was due for renewal — Barr helped found an organization called Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances, a bipartisan group dedicated to eliminating aspects of the Patriot Act that could potentially affect law-abiding citizens rather than terrorists, and to “restore traditional checks and balances on government power so the country can effectively fight terror without sacrificing the rights of innocent Americans, rights that are guaranteed by the Constitution.”[74] Barr still serves as the group’s chairman.
Barr has been a vocal opponent of President George W. Bush’s claim of authorization to wiretap transnational phone calls without individual judicial license. He has said, “What’s wrong with it is several-fold. One, it’s bad policy for our government to be spying on American citizens through the National Security Agency. Secondly, it’s bad to be spying on Americans without court oversight. And thirdly, it’s bad to be spying on Americans apparently in violation of federal laws against doing it without court order.”[”
And Cluster, by your own logic. . . what actual violations have come about in your marriage due to gay marriage in some states?
Is your wife thinking of marrying another woman, are you thinking of marrying another man? Maybe you (like Santorum) are thinking about marrying your dog?
coulter,
Why would I care what Barr thinks? I am concerned about the egregious violations to your personal freedoms. Please list those for me so we can take action against this oppressive government.
And I don’t want our federal government involved in the marriage debate, but you’ll have to bring that up with the GLBT crowd. They’re the ones that initiated this.
GLBT initiated granting marriage rights to only opposite sex couples?
Please show your references.
I also mistook you for a conservative who was against ‘Big Brother’ government. Guess you didn’t mind the Clinton-era “carnivore program” then, either. . .
Well, here’s just one groups efforts:
OutFront Minnesota, the state’s largest group pressing gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender equality, says same-sex marriage will become its top priority next year.
http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/36354354.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUsr
And I am against an intrusive government, but I prefer to act on facts rather than hyperbole. So please demonstrate the oppressive violations to your personal freedoms due to the patriot act, and we will take action.
in theory…cult is bringing indefensible offenses against the people to light…offenses, which, during time of war, are illegal acts against the constitution…by criminals who should be tried in international courts for the genocide of millions of innocent people…
in reality…cult is off topic…spewing rhetoric and libtard talking points that on legislation that even the libtards agreed to and voted on…and claims to have a strong libertarian streak in him but advocates socialist programs to the defense of abortions where they remove the very life of human beings who cannot defend themselves…and the promotion of the lifestyle of those who pervert the natural use of thier bodies trying to raise thier ilk to be equal to natural human behavior…
there is no comparison between the natural conduct of human behavior and its perversion….natural behavior brings children into the world…while its perversion causes unspeakable injuries and disease and viral infections that the human body is not built to endure…the natural behavior gives a person a normal lifetime of happiness and grandkids too…while the sodomites suffer thier diseased bowels and die, never having children or grandchildren…burdening society with the costs of thier cure more times than not, driving the cost of health insurance through the roof for all because of thier sickening behavior…
its pretty obvious that natural human behavior SHOULD BE rewarded by state and federal government…tax breaks SHOULD BE given to people to maintain those benefits to society instead of wasting resources on mentally ill people who practice deviant sexual behavior in spite of the the obvious, and natural, purpose of thier bodies reproductive system….
having sex is not a civil right…the perversion of the natural use of the human reproductive system gives NO benefit to society, but instead, creates a burden upon it…
gay and lesbian organizations in public schools promote the introduction of deviant sexual behavior into our schools…instead of teaching sexual responsibility, they promote promiscuity, disease, perversion, and immorality….these people dont belong in schools…they dont belong in marraiges…they dont belong…period…and thats why they suffer…because they want to be perverted and pretend that thier perveted sexual behavior is natural…but it never was….it never will be….medical science has already demonstrated the empirical fact of what the human reproductive system’s purpose and proper use is…
and nothing the sodomites do will ever change that
coulterfan says: September 17th, 2009 at 9:47 am
it’s pointless discussing sex w gramps. he has no frame of reference & everything devolves thur his mind into pre-version & sodomy (which, of course, tells you exactly where his thoughts are).
tho he got one thing correct “having sex is not a civil right”.
which is exactly why marrage, gay or straight, is NOT a federal issue & is therefore BAD FEDERAL LAW…just like Roe.
course the wingnuts try to have it BOTH WAYS foaming over roe but not DOMA.
another example of why socials are not true conservatives & weaken the gop.
>>which is exactly why marrage, gay or straight, is NOT a federal issue & is therefore BAD FEDERAL LAW…just like Roe.<<
Yeah, I remember the irony of the Terri Schiavo ordeal. . . after yelling about “States’ Rights!!” over Roe for YEARS. . . all of a sudden, the Conservatives wanted FEDERAL intervention in a STATE issue!
…all of a sudden, the Conservatives wanted FEDERAL intervention in a STATE issue!
um…..that was because HER parents petitioned the feds to hear their case to gain custodianship and keep her alive, which they obliged. I know you believe in death, so your opposition to this is understandable.
so cult fan has no answers…makes up stories about straight couples…and proves what a stooge he is…
what do you expect from someone who compares the right to life with perverts?
Well that’s the difference between you and the Schiavo’s. Or should we all just adhere to how you want things to unfold?
And since her husband had already remarried, don’t ya think the parents had a pretty good case? I mean he’d have to be a polygamist to still be her husband, right?
“Well that’s the difference between you and the Schiavo’s. Or should we all just adhere to how you want things to unfold?”
Actually, it’s the LAW. . . that’s why the Schivo’s never won one case! Talk about abuse of our court system and a waste of taxpayer’s dollars!!! They lost NINETEEN TIMES!!!
BTW, Tom DeLay’s family removed his father from a feeding tube after suffering a stroke. . . would he have liked Federal intervention?
“And since her husband had already remarried, don’t ya think the parents had a pretty good case? I mean he’d have to be a polygamist to still be her husband, right?”
Clearly you weren’t paying attention. He became an RN and cared for her for YEARS!!!
Would you remain celibate forever after it became clear that your brain-dead spouse would never recover? He remained married to Terri, but started a new relationship after about a decade!
BTW, the ONLY THING that kept her on hospice care was the lawsuit her husband filed on her behalf:
“Schiavo’s husband later filed and won a malpractice suit against her obstetrician, Dr. Stephen Igel, on the basis that the physician failed to recognize and diagnose bulimia in her. In November 1992, the jury awarded $1 million. By February 1993, Schiavo had the money from the lawsuit.”
This money was used to pay for her hospice care, but under TORT reform. . . these types of lawsuits would not be allowed and Terri would have had the feeding tube removed when they family couldn’t afford hospice care. NO private insurance company would pay for a feeding tube and constant nursing for FIFTEEN YEARS!!!
I have to say that I always find it SURPRISING how many Republicans want to be kept alive indefinitely, using extraordinary measures, if they are in a Constant Vegetative State!
I hope all your spouse (if you have one) or parents realize this and can afford to keep you alive more than the 15 years Terri lived like this. . .
so stupid…sex is a reproductive act cultfreak…
even the liberals cant change that fact…no matter how hard you try… so the real answer is…
what you sodomites call oral sex…is ingesting human waste product…something you should know a lot about…as a matter of outlawing it…this is nothing more than your terms of debate, a very poor choice of words on your part…because of the way you misuse the intent…make you a supastooge on imense ignorance…a mental midget extrordinair…and an incompetent boob who isnt capable of dealing with hard facts so you have to weasel out with cheap excuses…
the pretty much sums it up…
coulterfan says:
“I have to say that I always find it SURPRISING how many Republicans want to be kept alive indefinitely, using extraordinary measures, if they are in a Constant Vegetative State!”0
September 17th, 2009 at 11:27 am
there ya go…again…making conclusions about republicans eh? not based in fact…there is not study or survey of this description in existence….
which goes to show what a fat lying stooge will do while attempting to prove that its ignorance is supreme….
coulter,
You’re really getting your panties in a bunch over this. This is an individual family thing here, and we SHOULD ALL respect someones desire for life and concern for their loved ones, rather than referring to a piece of paper and stare decisis.
The fact that you just choose to run roughshod over her parents emotions and lean on the law, speaks volumes about your humanity.
So, oral sex copulation IS SODOMY
isnt that how it works? people with common sense always having to correct libtards mistakes….
cluster says:
September 17th, 2009 at 11:31 am
the sad truth is for the wingnuts, schiavo was all about abortion instead of respect for states & family rights.
the sad truth for the country was that the southern socials in congress serviced the wingnuts in a special saturday session.
schiavo NEVER shoulda been a federal issue.
carville said that internal dem polling prior to the election showed schiavo more than iraq, drove moderates & indies away from the gop. I personally remain disgusted by congressional involvement & the foaming defense of it read here.
schiavo shows exactly why wingnut socials are NOT true conservatives.
schiavo remains a losing political issue for the gop.
back on point…
…DOMA & Roe are states rights issues & remain bad federal law.
some will, some wont.
hard to believe a single families desire to keep their daughter alive has coulter and ohio foaming at the mouth and turning it into an irrational outburst of prejudice and hatred towards chrisitans.
strange how you incompetent liberals mix up the meanings of words to pervert the truth…
cluster says:
September 17th, 2009 at 11:51 am
I spoke of southern socials & wingnuts.
I did NOT speak of the schiavo family nor Christians.
So your comment doesn’t address what I wrote at all.
Please pay attention.
ps – lets not forget that that the autopsy proved that poor woman’s brain had massive, unrepairable damage & could NOT SUSTAIN HER LIFE. so, in the end, all the foaming wingnuts did WAS INCREASE THE DAMAGE TO TERRY & HER FAMILY…all in the name of abortion.
DOMA & Roe are states rights issues & bad federal law.
Strange how “small government Conservatives” want to control what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.
ps – lets not forget that that the autopsy proved that poor woman’s brain had massive, unrepairable damage but the coroner is not a doctor yet the brain can atropy from malnutrition and abuse while in coma…or after she regained conscousness…brain atrophy can be inhibited by modern technics….and by withholding treatment it can cause it to advance…seeing how terry schiavo was under the direct supervision of her unfaithful husband, its very probably that his failure to insure specific treatments were given at specific intervals caused cerebral atrophy to rapidly advance to the point that we saw in the autopsy results…atrophy of the brain cells can be stopped in most cases…
literally, severe malnutrition can cause cerebral atrophy…instead of squaking about southern socials and wingnuts, you should be wondering why murder charges were not pursued
coulterfan says:
September 17th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
that’s cause these social “conservatives” are not true conservatives.
they are actually dixiecrats who were embraced by the gop in the 90’s which resulted in exactly what goldwater feared & drove away the moderates & indies.
northern, midwestern, & western conservatives should break & form their own party.
coulterfan says: (lies, as usual)
September 17th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
strange how libtards make up so many lies and try to act like they are good people…
a DNC libtard that promotes killing innocent children said “northern, midwestern, & western conservatives should break & form their own party”
as opposed to what…the party that fought to keep slavery, to keep the black race servants, and when they lost the civil war, kept on fighting to deny equal status to those very same black people they enslaved?
im sure you would like your fantasy to come true…the only thing stopping it is the truth
js02 says:
September 17th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
spurious argument.
regardless of the cause, the damage existed.
yet you wingnuts would have continued lifesupport WITH NO HOPE OF RECOVERY as PROVEN by the autopsy.
and the reason is plain to see.
it was NEVER ABOUT TERRY OR HER FAMILY.
it was always about abortion.
DOMA & Roe are states rights issues & bad federal law.
js02 says:
September 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
can you really be that ignorant? (I didn’t say stupid & I’m not talking about “Christians”…oh no, just you js).
your examples are the dixiecrats who migrated to the gop after the civil rights act of 64.
you’ve named the exact problem WITHIN the ranks of the gop.
coulterfan says:
September 17th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
“Strange how “small government Conservatives” want to control what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.”
isnt that the same way you end all of these arguments loser? you make up lies like this to make yourself feel “good”….it doesnt work…sodomy is still unhealthy…your means of “oral sex” is still unhealthy…and you are still a liar…
all 3 of those statements are facts…and you cant change that libtard…no matter how hard you spin to truth, it wont change…
ohioorrin says:
September 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
actually orrin, terry was murdered. period…not spurious…fact…the autopsy show cerebral atrophy…not so much stroke injury, but an ongoing advancement of a curable issue…withholding care was probably the entire cause of the advanced state of atrophy, because atrophy can be stopped and reversed…
so no matter what lie you preach…if you dont have abasis in the truth, its libtard trash..and that all ya got stooge, libtard trash…
ohioorrin says: “your examples are the dixiecrat…”
September 17th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
did you see any dixiecrats migrate to the gop? nope…did you see the gop change from anti slavery pro civil rights to pro slavery, anti civil rights? nope..
all i see is a wanna be spinning a lie…the same lie you grab onto every time you get your butt kicked in every debate you enter…worthless banter from a worthless stooge…
get a real arguement…stop playing the mental midget…this is getting old ohioorrin…you are such a bore
mean while…the purpose of the human reproductive system is still beyond any doubt…it is an empirical fact… and you cant change it…not matter how stupid you really are…
In a New Zealand study, data were gathered on a range of psychiatric disorders among gay, lesbian, and bisexual young people. At the age of 21, homosexuals/bisexuals were at fourfold increased risks of major depression and conduct disorder, fivefold increased risk of nicotine dependence, twofold increased risk of other substance misuse or addiction and six times more likely to have attempted suicide.
and you defend this behavior cultfanatic…
you have no dignity…mentally instable people drawn into deviant sexual behavior…a world drowning in sickness and disease…some day God is going to make you face the truth…and it isnt pretty…
Ok, boys and girls, a bit over the top on the graphic sex stuff…
ya…sometimes the truth is really ugly huh
Clearly you weren’t paying attention. He became an RN and cared for her for YEARS!!!
Bolderdash!!
he “took care” of her until he got a 1.5 mil settlement, after that he dumped her like a bag of trash.
He never re married in stead he LIVED with a woman fostering 2 bastard kids.
Immediately after the settlement he partitioned the courts to remove her from life support and care…EXACTLY what the settlement was to provide for.
Then and only then did the parents step it to gain custody and even let him keep the money…as a good lib he only wanted her dead and all the money of course.
js02
we cant speak of it in public, yet they parade it as “pride” teach it in schools and pass laws protecting it….just dont tell what it really is someone may be offended!!!
they cant figure it out neo…God gave them a reprobate mind…they chose to be that way…Jesus said if any man hears Me, knock on the door and it will be opened…and they turned thier backs of Him…
do ya think if they had the faintest clue what thier spirits were…that they would run back to that door?