Is ACORN Responsible for “Senator” Franken?
Tags: Leftist Groups, Voter Issues.
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Hmmm…
Did ACORN chicanery elect Al Franken? That’s the import of this tactfully phrased Minneapolis Star Tribune column.** Franken won by 312 votes. ACORN claimed to have registered 48,000 new Minnesota voters. If just 1% were ineligible but cast ballots, or had ballots cast for them illegally, and survived the recount process … that’s 480 votes, almost certainly overwhelmingly cast for Franken. … Maybe in pristine Minnesota even ACORN is clean. If so, the state would apparently be an outlier. …
And that is the point, dear liberals – no one thinks that ACORN created millions of votes to overwhelmingly win…but by their fraud, they can create just enough votes to allow a Democrat to win in a squeeker. That is how voter fraud works, ya know? Oh. I didn’t realize. Sorry, I thought everyone knew that. Well, lets take a look at this:
In 1948, Texas Governor Coke Stevenson ran for a U.S. Senate seat against Texas Congressman Lyndon Baines Johnson:
“Early indications were that Congressman Johnson had lost. Six days later, however, Precinct 13 in the border town of Alice, Texas, showed a very interesting result. Exactly 203 people had voted at the last minute — in the order they were listed on the tax rolls — and 202 of them had voted for Johnson.
Trying to manufacture a lot of votes to turn a big loser in to a winner is (a) nearly impossible and (b) might spark a revolution. But when its really, really close…as long as you have the guts to try, officials who are willing to be complicit or at least turn a blind eye, and an MSM which is on your side, it can be done. Democrats have always done this – and I mean going back to the foundations of the party in the early 19th century. Ask anyone of an old, Irish-Catholic family and you’ll get some stories…
Democrats did this in Washington State in 2004, attempted it in Florida in 2000 and, very likely, pulled it off again in Minnesota in 2008. It seems there were many tens of thousands – and perhaps hundreds of thousands – more votes than voters in Minnesota in 2008. Almost certainly, fraud was perpetrated and while it might have just run up Obama’s big win, it seems to have been just enough to pull Franken over the finish line.
This is why we need to have stricter controls on voting – picture IDs, period purging of the rolls (preferably every 4th year), heavy (life terms?) penalties for voter fraud…even if its just telling someone to go out and get fraudulent registrations. The only legitimacy our government has is because of the voters – if the vote becomes tainted and people lose faith in the democratic system, then its all over for the American republic. Voter fraud is, in many respects, treason – and it should be treated as such.
UPDATE: Yes, should I ever be in a position to do so, I’ll try to have the 2008 Minnesota result looked in to.
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21 Responses to “Is ACORN Responsible for “Senator” Franken?”
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This is why we need to have stricter controls on voting – picture IDs,…
Now Mark, the Democrats vehemently oppose requiring voters to show ID’s at the polls. You’re not suggesting it’s because they don’t want to give up practicing voter fraud are you?
That “or” should be an “and”. People who don’t vote because they don’t exist have no more effect on the final outcome than people who don’t vote because they’re lazy.
This is why we need to have stricter controls on voting – picture IDs,…
When I was a resident of Houston, thankfully it was brief, my representative was Gene Green (D). Mr. Green voted against VoterID because, according to the talking points, it would be too much of a “burden” for some people. Nevertheless, when Mr. Green held townhall meetings in August, he required an ID check on everyone entering to ensure that only those in his district could attend. Typical double-standard, I know, and quite useful when it serves the purpose. They know VoterID would work and virtually eliminate fraud, and that’s why they oppose it. Now that ACORN is finally having their “chickens come home to roost,” it could make the 2010 elections even more interesting.
And Mark, by all means investigate Mr. Franken’s election. If previous administrations can now be investigated, surely a junior Senator can, too. It’s not like the struggling media outlets have any journalists to spare these days.
som when grandma shows up at the polls w an expired drivers license or forgot where her DL is, should she be turned away?
ohio… yes it’s called personal responsibility. Many senior citizens don’t use the bank cards they still write checks when they go to the store so they always have the id’s on them. I really never understood the logic that showing an i.d. would be a problem for anyone. You have to have one or you can’t cash any kind of check. The first thing you are asked for when applying for any kind of aid is your driver’s license/i.d. and your social security card(at least that is the case where I live). So why not when you go to vote?
sdan says:
September 30th, 2009 at 8:04 am
here in ohio, grandma would receive a provisional ballot, which are counted later along w absentees.
Senator Coleman won at the ballot box and the first recount. But after many challenges, and ballots found in trunks of cars, Franken amazingly won.
You do the math.
cluster,
The “ballots in the trunk story” was debunked long ago. Even Gov. Pawlenty said it is not true.
Two words: Florida 2000
kmg,
That is not a de-bunking, that is just a denial – by the person accused of wrongdoing. Not exactly “stand-up-in-court” proof, if you ask me.
Sergei,
But the non-existent do vote…for crying out loud, my friend, the Democrats filed a court case in MO to keep the polls open late in heavily Democrat precincts. Why? Claims of voter intimidation. By whom? Never really specified. Ultimate problem with the case: the plaintiff was dead – had been for a year and a half (later Donks made an effort to claim that they had merely typed the middle initial wrong – supposedly the correct plaintiff was still alive…except his complaint about being prevented from voting was weakened by the fact that he had already voted). Now, why would the Democrats have, all set to go, a complaint designed to keep the polls open? Because that is how you stuff the ballot boxes with just enough for your guy to win a narrow race…MO in 2000 was a squeeker between Gore and Bush…had it gone Gore, then Bush could have won FL all he wanted, he still would have lost.
There were similar indications of fraud in Iowa (Gore by 4,144), New Mexico (Gore by 366), Wisconsin (Gore by 5,708) and Oregon (Gore by 6,765). That is 16,983 votes which got Gore 30 Electoral Votes – a few hundred more would have got Gore 25 more, from Florida, and the White House.
This is how voter fraud works – small numbers of votes in close contests.
Oh excuse me kmg1, they were “in his car” not in his trunk. That makes all the difference in the world?????
Hey, as long as we’re dealing in UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMORS. . .
At least Franken didn’t have his opponent KILLED in an ‘ACCIDENTAL PLANE CRASH’ like Coleman had BUSH’S CRONIES KILL WELLSTONE!
See, two can play that CRAZY game!
You play it extraordinarily well though coulter
cluster,
Yes, it does make all the difference in the world. The ballots were not lost and they were in the control of an election official the entire time, just as every other absentee ballot in the state was. The official did what every other official did that day, and he did it in accordance with Minnesota election law.
Then I guess Gov. Pawlenty was not telling the truth when he said the story was false. And Coleman had his chance to prove it in court. He didn’t because it was false.
He just happened to forget to make sure those ballots were legally counted on election day, and had the revelation of them being in his car a few days later.
Good to know you see nothing wrong though. Any chance I can be your financial planner?
cluster,
What you are saying just flat out is not true. This story was started by Coleman’s lawyer. Once it was found to be false, Coleman’s camp dropped it. Sadly, there are still some gullible enough to believe it actually happened, so, no, you cannot be my financial planner.
From the link I posted:
kmg,
Still not a de-bunking. A de-bunking would be clear evidence that the ballots were handled from start to finish in a proper manner.
But did they? You cannot make the case that something happened in Minnesota in 2008 by talking about what happened in Montana in 2000. If that was a valid tactic, then I could just point to the voter suppression that occurred that year in Florida to “prove” that no Republican has ever won an election, before or since (which of course we could also go round and round on, but which is still irrelevant to the point at hand).
Mark,
Your ideas of how proof works is completely backwards. It is the accuser that must provide the evidence, and a rumor started by Coleman’s attorney is not exactly “stand-up-in-court” proof.
Your “proof” that it happened is Coleman’s lawyer saying he heard from someone that it happened. Within days, the Director of Elections stated what really happened and the rumor was never brought up again by Coleman’s team. Gov. Pawlenty also said the story was not true. The only people who kept it going were the wingnuts who were looking for any reason to claim the election was stolen.
Coleman lost and Franken won. Get over it already. Don’t take it from me. After all I’m a liberal, so you believe I am wrong about everything. Take it from Ed Morissey at Townhall.