Olympia Snowe?
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Mark Noonan
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October 13th, 2009 at 07:45pm with
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Tags: Obamacare, RINOs.
Tags: Obamacare, RINOs.
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Is there a point to her still calling herself a Republican? Its not like the Democrats needed her vote – so, why provide it? Either she’s contemplating a party switch, or she’s just a complete fool…
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43 Responses to “Olympia Snowe?”
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She says she can’t/won’t vote for a final bill that contains a public option. We’ll see. Her lifetime American Conservative Union rating is below 50% indicating that she votes more with the Dems than she does with Republicans, so this is certainly not a surprise.
Anyone interested in forming a GOP chapter in Maine? They obviously don’t have one.
Maybe this is what her constituents want from her. Not every republican has to vote along party lines.
There are a few that still can think without reading blog for bush.
Evidently ufgators thinks it’s a smart play to pass an $800 billion healthcare bill that will still leave an estimated 25 million people uncovered. So, assuming the current number of uninsured is 40 million, we are spending $800 billion to cover 15 million people, or a little more than $53, 000 per person.
And accoring to ufgators, this is what “thinking” people do.
LMAO
Olympia Snowe sounds as if she’s listening more to her constituents with a view to re-election next cycle, rather than most of the GOP politicians who are listening to what Fox News tells them their constituents are saying, and to be fair, so are some Democrats.
I’m firmly of the opinion the Democrats need to push the strongest public option bill and ignore the 60 votes thing. LET the Republicans filibuster it if they will – they will pay the price at the next election. The more GOP who cannot deny that they obstructed healthcare reform, the less GOP will still be in their seats after the next election cycle.
I think the Democrats should aim for a 51 vote majority and make the Republicans stand up and be counted filibustering if they will. Perhaps if that happens, they will realise that the majority want healthcare reform, not the Fox News reported “majority” that is actually the minority of the population.
Arctic,
Why do you continue to post here and allow me to expose you for the ignorant broad you are? I thought for sure you would have learned your lessen by now.
First of all, I have yet to hear Fox News issue orders to any GOP congressman. If you can back up your assinine assertion than please enlighten us.
Secondly, the Democrats do not need one GOP vote to pass this legislation. Not one. And the GOP can not filibuster, so it’s all on the Democrats shoulders, and your attempt to rope in the GOP, is just another completely ignorant claim.
And finally: a recent NBC poll (not exactly a conservative bastion) found that a majority of Americans oppose a public option:
And according to a brand-new NBC News poll, 47% of Americans — a plurality — oppose the public plan, versus 43% who support it. That’s a shift from last month’s NBC/WSJ poll, when 46% said they backed it and 44% were opposed.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/18/2033674.aspx
Now, do you have any more stupid comments I can make fun of tonight?
I hear kennedy is still voting for his constituents in chicago.
olympia snowe = john mcLame rino =LOSER
purge the party of these idiots.
Go Sarah!!
@Cluster
If you actually read what I said, you would realize that I never said Fox ordered anyone to do anything. GOP politicians listen to the Fox reported numbers – which are wrong – and act on that believing the Fox lies that the majority of the population doesn’t want reform. If they don’t wake up they’ll pay at the next election, but I never said or even intimated that Fox actually gives them orders – so if reading isn’t too hard, and as it’s not joined up writing even you should be able to do it, perhaps you should try reading what I actually say.
IF less than 60 votes are achieved in the senate, the GOP could opt to try and filibuster. If 60 or more votes are achieved, they don’t have that option. Suggested reading: What a filibuster is. Should this happen, then the bill would still eventually get through, but over the GOPs protests. It may not; in fact it probably won’t since 60 votes seems to be the leadership’s intention, but it could happen if the leadership don’t get 60 votes AND the GOP still wish to be seen to be obstructionist.
The poll you quote? It’s from August. It’s now October. Public opinion has shifted back, but I do give you credit for searching desperately for ONE non-Fox poll that would back up your position, even if it’s no longer current.
A poll from less than 60 days ago isn’t current? Mainly because it doesn’t support your position, isn’t that right?
If you would have read the findings, you would have learned that the month prior showed that 46% supported it, and 44% opposed it, so the numbers don’t really vary that much, but what is evident is that the more the public learns of the public option, the more they dislike it.
The Democrats have 60 seats in the Senate. 60 votes are needed to pass the bill. They don’t need one republican vote. I can not make that any more clear.
I have said this before sweetie, but you’re just too f**king stupid to debate.
FAUX
AND the GOP still wish to be seen to be obstructionist.
same OLD worn out talking points.
with a FILIBUSTER PROOF…….MAJORITY they need NO republican votes to pass it you twit.
they cant get it past by their own party,
it is like your posts, IT STINKS!!!
cluster
I have said this before sweetie, but you’re just too f**king stupid to
debate.consume oxygen!LOL
Arctic sweetie,
The following is from the WSJ, and I don’t expect you to really be able to wrap your small mind around it, but it essentially states that America can no longer afford needy, stupid people like you. OK?
As of Sept. 30, 2009, the national debt was almost $12 trillion and interest on that debt was $383 billion for the year, according to the Treasury Department’s Bureau of the Public Debt. The Congressional Budget Office on Oct. 7 estimated the 2009 budget deficit to be almost $1.4 trillion (about 10% of GDP). In August, the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) estimated total government revenues at about $2 trillion. The revenue estimate included $904 billion from individual income taxes. This means the cost of interest on the debt represented more than 40 cents of every dollar that came in from individual income taxes. …
In stark but simple terms, unless Americans are made aware of this financial crisis and demand accountability, the very fabric of our society will be destroyed. Interest rates and interest costs will soar and government revenues will be devoured by interest on the national debt. Eventually, most of what we spend on Social Security, Medicare, education, national defense and much more may have to come from new borrowing, if such funding can be obtained. Left unchecked, this destructive deficit-debt cycle will leave the White House and Congress with either having to default on the national debt or instruct the Treasury to run the printing presses into a policy of hyperinflation.
cluster
fartic ox is a brit, she has no clue.
just a dumb lemming with a big mouth and pea sized brain.
we used to call them AIR HEADS for good reason.
AF,
How about a poll from October 10th?
ufgators,
I doubt – there is no genuine public outcry for a health care reform…its entirely a manufactured issue ginned up by Democrats to grab more power and money for themselves. Snowe is just following along because that is what the Washington Post says she should do…
off topic
No-2 son just arrived home with 6-pack bud light for dear old dad.
as honer simpson would say
MMMMMM……..BEEEER
That’s a good boy you got there neocon. He’s a keeper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFYipGB6Z18&feature=related
LOL
I am the proud owner of one of these……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFYipGB6Z18&feature=related
OK
back on topic
woops
I am the proud owner of one of these……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-UIm3mQPI&feature=related
My son-in-law has a thing about Bud Light, too. Not sure why, cuz Bud Light is not beer.
Anyway, back to the topic… after purging Olympia Snowe, who’ll be next? Perhaps Lindsay Graham?
rico
what ever rino who takes GOP money to be elected then votes for the donks.
seems the donks pretty much follow the party that elected them.
PS
I prefer Mc Ultra…I know MEEEEYOW!!
and interest on that debt was $383 billion for the year
And that’s based on historically low interest rates. Imagine what happens when rates start to escalate.
retired
insolvency…
It is important to remember three things:
1) Olympia Snowe in no small part wrote the Baucus Bill.
2) The Baucus Bill is the closest thing to a full Republican health reform bill that has been produced so far, so if you’re a Republican who feels that something needs to be done, then this, despite its imperfections, is the one to support.
3) Not every break from the party line is indicative of a full-fledged ideological shift. I realize you’ve been framing every vote on every issue more important than the declaration of Pineapple Appreciation Week as the definitive ideological struggle of our time, but that is not always the case, especially not with a weenie bill like this one.
When you put it that way, single payer makes sense. ;)
By the way, according to the CBO, the Baucus Plan is budget-neutral.
SA
When you put it that way, single payer makes sense. ;)
only to a college kid with NO worldly experience.
tell us 20n years from now when you are begging in the street for food how the hope and change thingy is coming.
Of course you will have “free” health care for the rickets.
SA
By the way, according to the CBO, the Baucus Plan is budget-neutral.
do you really really believe that?
the same BS that was touted for SS, medicaid, medicare. etc.
ALL govt services are bankrupt and you want to add more…you have to be smarter than that well maybe not you did attend berkley.
neocon1: you have to be smarter than that well maybe not you did attend berkley.
Assuming you weren’t shooting for supreme irony, I doubt your comment could have been more poorly stated.
HMMMMMM
I doubt your comment could have been more poorly stated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUybMMYmpxo&feature=player_embedded
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pjtv-undercover-idiocy-indoctrination-at-uc-berkeley/
rico
Assuming you weren’t shooting for supreme irony, I doubt your comment could have been more poorly stated.
I pro port you decide!
pro = pur
Uh, yeah. It’s not exactly a controversial claim.
As to whether or not the CBO is correct, the bill raises taxes and cuts some ares of spending. That does add up.
Yeah, my education in Persian language and literature must have indoctrinated me into believing that the Congressional Budget Office had said something! Let’s take a look at this indoctrination, shall we?
Here is a clip from a movie I watched several times in various classes, beginning my first semester. (It’s not bad, but loses something by the fourth viewing.) The video’s implications for healthcare are obvious enough to require no further comment.
But my indoctrination did not stop there. Oh, no. Here is an excerpt from something we read in my final year:
This is Achaemenid Persian for:
It doesn’t get much more liberal than ivory from Arachosia.
senator snow is fm the long line of northeastern republicans.
the southern socials are not.
The Baucus Plan is budget neutral – sergei
I always love starting more morning off with a good laugh, so thanks for that.
..so if you’re a Republican who feels that something needs to be done, then this, despite its imperfections, is the one to support. – sergei
See that’s the difference between us. I only support those representatives that do the right thing by the American people. Not the American government, or their respective party. And completely dismantling and overhauling a system that 85% of the people are currently happy with, to accomodate 15% just doesn’t make sense. Does it?
senator snow is fm the long line of northeastern republicans
Again, I support individual people, not a “party”. I know that could be difficult to understand from someone who embraces a collective, group think, mind set.
nd completely dismantling and overhauling a system that 85% of the people are currently happy with, to accomodate 15% just doesn’t make sense. Does it?
dunno. what was the percentage of slaves before you decided it was worth it to free them?
frenchstudent says:
October 14th, 2009 at 9:57 am
complicating issues.
about half of the ~15% you note are 18-35 & could buy insurance but CHOOSE not to.
and about half of the remaining half are illegal aliens. its true they go to ER’s anyway, which is expensive treatment, but some feel covering them is an inducment for more illegal immigration.
lastly, at state level, the best coverages are available in blue states w unions & whose voters elect state politicans responsive to health care issues.
why should those blue state taxpayers be forced to subsidize red state voters who evidently dont care as much? and these red states are where most of the illegals reside.
I no longer support a federal “solution”. I see this as a states rights issue.
ohio,
You’ve really come around on this issue, I am proud of you. Of course French’s completely assinine, juvenile comment merited no response.
Now how about this solution, let’s say that ALL insurance companies were able to compete in ALL states, for EVERYONE’S business, offering cafeteria option type policies. In addition, we instituted a loser-pay tort reform policy, which would help bring down doctors cost of coverage.
What do you think the effect of that might be?
I had an open mind & tried to listen to the facts. Some argue health care is a “civil right” which would be federal. After consideration tho I feel this is primarly a states rights issue.
remember tho that the illegals & the uninsured go to ER’s which is expensive. that unreimbursed cost is paid by the insured, employees, shareholders, & stakeholders.
I support portability & malpractice reform which is driving alotta OBGYN’s outta practice.
Mark Noonan says:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Mark,
I’m laughing because Susan Collins is leaning the same way. What…she’s from Maine. Maybe that is how the people of Maine feel that the state feels.
No way…you speak for every republ…conserv…blog for bush idiot.
My point was that Sen. Snowe apparently thinks that the consequences of doing nothing are greater than the consequences of this bill.
Where on Earth did that come from? We’re talking about the Baucus bill.