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		<title>By: Sergei Andropov</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/10/27/james-earl-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-198643</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergei Andropov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama flat out lied: he said he had a new strategy ready to go months ago, and now he’s dithering about whether or not to implement it.

Actually, he did do everything he said he would.  He promised to send more troops to Afghanistan.  He did.  He is now trying to determine what we should do next.

&lt;blockquote&gt;NAH not at all.
pure speculation&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Osama is thought to be hiding in South Waziristan.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxLoDD7VtGY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is what South Waziristan looks like right now.

Amazona,

Go screw yourself.  Accusing your political enemies of rooting for Osama bin Laden is nothing short of evil.  It&#039;s also nothing short of stupid, as we have already tried Zacharias Moussaoui, and are currently trying Khalid Sheikh Muhammad and his merry band of butchers, without the outpourings of liberal love and support that you, in your hate-filled insanity, predict.

In any case, since if OBL is captured in the next few weeks it will be by the Pakistanis, it is entirely possible that he will end up being tried there, and convicted and sentenced to death by a Muslim court.  The situation is fairly &lt;a href=&quot;http://theforgottenwar.blogspot.com/2007/12/my-question-for-zawahri.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;unambiguous&lt;/a&gt; from a Sharia perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama flat out lied: he said he had a new strategy ready to go months ago, and now he’s dithering about whether or not to implement it.</p>
<p>Actually, he did do everything he said he would.  He promised to send more troops to Afghanistan.  He did.  He is now trying to determine what we should do next.</p>
<blockquote><p>NAH not at all.<br />
pure speculation</p></blockquote>
<p>Osama is thought to be hiding in South Waziristan.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxLoDD7VtGY" rel="nofollow">This</a> is what South Waziristan looks like right now.</p>
<p>Amazona,</p>
<p>Go screw yourself.  Accusing your political enemies of rooting for Osama bin Laden is nothing short of evil.  It&#8217;s also nothing short of stupid, as we have already tried Zacharias Moussaoui, and are currently trying Khalid Sheikh Muhammad and his merry band of butchers, without the outpourings of liberal love and support that you, in your hate-filled insanity, predict.</p>
<p>In any case, since if OBL is captured in the next few weeks it will be by the Pakistanis, it is entirely possible that he will end up being tried there, and convicted and sentenced to death by a Muslim court.  The situation is fairly <a href="http://theforgottenwar.blogspot.com/2007/12/my-question-for-zawahri.html" rel="nofollow">unambiguous</a> from a Sharia perspective.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: neocon1</title>
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		<dc:creator>neocon1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazona

I hope the Marines would find him first and he &quot;came out shooting&quot;
end of story.

Maybe we could have a replay of arafarts funeral where his body gets dumped out of the coffin during a frenzy of islamic &quot;mourning&quot;

&lt;b&gt;PRICELESS!!! &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazona</p>
<p>I hope the Marines would find him first and he &#8220;came out shooting&#8221;<br />
end of story.</p>
<p>Maybe we could have a replay of arafarts funeral where his body gets dumped out of the coffin during a frenzy of islamic &#8220;mourning&#8221;</p>
<p><b>PRICELESS!!! </b></p>
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		<title>By: Amazona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amazona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But doncha know, if Bush had captured OBL he would just have made a martyr out of him, resulting in the recruitment of even more America-haters.

If Obama is president when and if OBL is captured, it will &quot;be the game-changer to end all game-changers...&quot;

I&#039;m trying to figure out how, as of course OBL would be brought to the US, given a cadre of Leftist attorneys, read his rights, and eventually subjected to a criminal trial, in which witnesses would have to appear to testify against him and it would be argued that he did not have his actual fingerprints on any bomb.

The American Criminal Liberties Union would have to put their defenses of NAMBLA on the back burner to defend OBL, the circus would drag on for years, the trial would be another OJ spectacle, and in the meantime Islamic terrorists would be drawn to the location where OBL is held, endangering American citizens.

Yeah, it WOULD  be a game changer.  On top of the United States of America admitting that OBL is the most powerful man in the universe, it would provide much entertainment and recruitment potential for years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But doncha know, if Bush had captured OBL he would just have made a martyr out of him, resulting in the recruitment of even more America-haters.</p>
<p>If Obama is president when and if OBL is captured, it will &#8220;be the game-changer to end all game-changers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to figure out how, as of course OBL would be brought to the US, given a cadre of Leftist attorneys, read his rights, and eventually subjected to a criminal trial, in which witnesses would have to appear to testify against him and it would be argued that he did not have his actual fingerprints on any bomb.</p>
<p>The American Criminal Liberties Union would have to put their defenses of NAMBLA on the back burner to defend OBL, the circus would drag on for years, the trial would be another OJ spectacle, and in the meantime Islamic terrorists would be drawn to the location where OBL is held, endangering American citizens.</p>
<p>Yeah, it WOULD  be a game changer.  On top of the United States of America admitting that OBL is the most powerful man in the universe, it would provide much entertainment and recruitment potential for years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Amazona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amazona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But doncha know, if Bush had captured OBL he would just have made a martyr out of him, resulting in the recruitment of even more America-haters.

If Obama is president when and if OBL is captured, it will &quot;be the game-changer to end all game-changers...&quot;

I&#039;m trying to figure out how, as of course OBL would be brought to the US, given a cadre of Leftist attorneys, read his rights, and eventually subjected to a criminal trial, in which witnesses would have to appear to testify against him and it would be argued that he did not have his actual fingerprints on any bomb.

The American Criminal Liberties Union would have to put their defenses of NAMBLA on the back burner to defend OBL, the circus would drag on for years, the trial would be another OJ spectacle, and in the meantime Islamic terrorists would be drawn to the location where OBL is held, endangering American citizens.

Yeah, it WOULD  be a game changer.  On top of the United States of America admitting that OBL is the most powerful man in the universe, it would provide much entertainment and recruitment potential for years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But doncha know, if Bush had captured OBL he would just have made a martyr out of him, resulting in the recruitment of even more America-haters.</p>
<p>If Obama is president when and if OBL is captured, it will &#8220;be the game-changer to end all game-changers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to figure out how, as of course OBL would be brought to the US, given a cadre of Leftist attorneys, read his rights, and eventually subjected to a criminal trial, in which witnesses would have to appear to testify against him and it would be argued that he did not have his actual fingerprints on any bomb.</p>
<p>The American Criminal Liberties Union would have to put their defenses of NAMBLA on the back burner to defend OBL, the circus would drag on for years, the trial would be another OJ spectacle, and in the meantime Islamic terrorists would be drawn to the location where OBL is held, endangering American citizens.</p>
<p>Yeah, it WOULD  be a game changer.  On top of the United States of America admitting that OBL is the most powerful man in the universe, it would provide much entertainment and recruitment potential for years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: neocon1</title>
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		<dc:creator>neocon1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SA

&lt;i&gt;Of course, none of this may end up mattering, as the probability of Osama being captured is now higher than at any point since Tora Bora, and that would be the game-changer to end all game-changers.&lt;/i&gt;

NAH not at all.
pure speculation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SA</p>
<p><i>Of course, none of this may end up mattering, as the probability of Osama being captured is now higher than at any point since Tora Bora, and that would be the game-changer to end all game-changers.</i></p>
<p>NAH not at all.<br />
pure speculation</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Noonan</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/10/27/james-earl-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-198567</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Noonan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sergei,

In a long, difficult war people will come to different conclusions...but, Obama flat out lied:  he said he had a new strategy ready to go months ago, and now he&#039;s dithering about whether or not to implement it.  Meanwhile, people are dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sergei,</p>
<p>In a long, difficult war people will come to different conclusions&#8230;but, Obama flat out lied:  he said he had a new strategy ready to go months ago, and now he&#8217;s dithering about whether or not to implement it.  Meanwhile, people are dying.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergei Andropov</title>
		<link>http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/10/27/james-earl-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-198564</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergei Andropov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is that the experts themselves are now reevaluating things.  This wasn&#039;t just some low-level guy, he was the man in charge of Zabul Province, which, while its no Helmand or Qandahar, is still a pretty important place.  Here&#039;s my analysis, cross-posted (in slightly different form) at my regular haunt:

While I do not agree with Hoh&#039;s conclusion, I do agree with most of the points he makes, as do most other experts (inasmuch as I can apply that term to myself).  While I feel that resigning was the wrong thing to do with regards to him personally, it appears to have been good for the analytical community as a whole, because it is forcing people to analyze in depth his Korengal study, which was important not for its newness — we&#039;ve known that most of the insurgency is not ideologically driven quite for some time — but for its absoluteness.  If he is right about the utter lack of ideological inroads the Taliban has made in such areas, if he is right that not only the rank and file but also the local leadership has so few ties with the Taliban proper, then there are many areas where we can proceed directly to endgame.  There has been talk for quite some time of eventually reaching small-scale peace agreements with local elements of the Taliban; if Hoh is correct, it is time for us to begin working on those agreements.  This will do two things: free up troops for deployment in areas that really do need it, and put the Taliban in the position of enforcing their will on their erstwhile subordinates, which will go over about as well as passing out copies of &lt;i&gt;Das Kapital&lt;/i&gt; at a TEA Party.

Speaking of the home front, this will also greatly embolden the anti-war movement.  The resulting threat of US withdrawal will put tremendous pressure on Karzai (or Abdullah) to get the Afghan government&#039;s act together.  If combined with the proper leadership from folks like John Kerry (who negotiated the runoff), and perhaps also with the new tactics currently being hammered out (depending of course on what they are), this will hopefully result in satisfactory reforms.  Additionally, this is an event, and will therefore absolutely enrage the Republicans.  (Note that I&#039;ve already been proven correct on this.)  GOP support for the war has already been crystallizing; this should increase it to the point where the analytical community would only need to focus on one or two Democrats in the event they actually tried to force a withdrawal, so things are secure there too.

Of course, none of this may end up mattering, as the probability of Osama being captured is now higher than at any point since Tora Bora, and that would be the game-changer to end all game-changers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that the experts themselves are now reevaluating things.  This wasn&#8217;t just some low-level guy, he was the man in charge of Zabul Province, which, while its no Helmand or Qandahar, is still a pretty important place.  Here&#8217;s my analysis, cross-posted (in slightly different form) at my regular haunt:</p>
<p>While I do not agree with Hoh&#8217;s conclusion, I do agree with most of the points he makes, as do most other experts (inasmuch as I can apply that term to myself).  While I feel that resigning was the wrong thing to do with regards to him personally, it appears to have been good for the analytical community as a whole, because it is forcing people to analyze in depth his Korengal study, which was important not for its newness — we&#8217;ve known that most of the insurgency is not ideologically driven quite for some time — but for its absoluteness.  If he is right about the utter lack of ideological inroads the Taliban has made in such areas, if he is right that not only the rank and file but also the local leadership has so few ties with the Taliban proper, then there are many areas where we can proceed directly to endgame.  There has been talk for quite some time of eventually reaching small-scale peace agreements with local elements of the Taliban; if Hoh is correct, it is time for us to begin working on those agreements.  This will do two things: free up troops for deployment in areas that really do need it, and put the Taliban in the position of enforcing their will on their erstwhile subordinates, which will go over about as well as passing out copies of <i>Das Kapital</i> at a TEA Party.</p>
<p>Speaking of the home front, this will also greatly embolden the anti-war movement.  The resulting threat of US withdrawal will put tremendous pressure on Karzai (or Abdullah) to get the Afghan government&#8217;s act together.  If combined with the proper leadership from folks like John Kerry (who negotiated the runoff), and perhaps also with the new tactics currently being hammered out (depending of course on what they are), this will hopefully result in satisfactory reforms.  Additionally, this is an event, and will therefore absolutely enrage the Republicans.  (Note that I&#8217;ve already been proven correct on this.)  GOP support for the war has already been crystallizing; this should increase it to the point where the analytical community would only need to focus on one or two Democrats in the event they actually tried to force a withdrawal, so things are secure there too.</p>
<p>Of course, none of this may end up mattering, as the probability of Osama being captured is now higher than at any point since Tora Bora, and that would be the game-changer to end all game-changers.</p>
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		<title>By: kjstrouble1</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjstrouble1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SA,

The problem is that the Obama administration truly does not believe ANY war is justified.  They seem to want the US to become just one more part of a world government, preferably a more socialist one.

If Obama really wanted to win, he would have endorsed the general&#039;s recommendations and requests, and let the experts run the war.  But like LBJ before him, he won&#039;t, because to him it is not about winning a war, but winning a political point or race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SA,</p>
<p>The problem is that the Obama administration truly does not believe ANY war is justified.  They seem to want the US to become just one more part of a world government, preferably a more socialist one.</p>
<p>If Obama really wanted to win, he would have endorsed the general&#8217;s recommendations and requests, and let the experts run the war.  But like LBJ before him, he won&#8217;t, because to him it is not about winning a war, but winning a political point or race.</p>
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		<title>By: neocon1</title>
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		<dc:creator>neocon1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SA

&lt;i&gt;Breaking: We now know the reason why Obama’s been taking so long to come to a decision on Afghanistan. I myself am not quite sure how to react to this.&lt;/I.

because one lone low level guy resigned?
NO 
it is because the empty suit has no clue to what he is doing or how to do it.
He has surrounded him self with local chicago thugs, marxists, tax cheats and criminals. No one in his admin has foreign policy or even management skills.
This jack ass is more worried about waging a war of words against Rush and Fox news while Afghanistan is crashing down around his ankles, the NK and Iranians are peeing on his shoes and he is out campaigning or playing golf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SA</p>
<p><i>Breaking: We now know the reason why Obama’s been taking so long to come to a decision on Afghanistan. I myself am not quite sure how to react to this.&lt;/I.</p>
<p>because one lone low level guy resigned?<br />
NO<br />
it is because the empty suit has no clue to what he is doing or how to do it.<br />
He has surrounded him self with local chicago thugs, marxists, tax cheats and criminals. No one in his admin has foreign policy or even management skills.<br />
This jack ass is more worried about waging a war of words against Rush and Fox news while Afghanistan is crashing down around his ankles, the NK and Iranians are peeing on his shoes and he is out campaigning or playing golf.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sergei Andropov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergei Andropov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking:  We now know the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/26/AR2009102603394.html?hpid=topnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reason&lt;/a&gt; why Obama&#039;s been taking so long to come to a decision on Afghanistan.  I myself am not quite sure how to react to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking:  We now know the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/26/AR2009102603394.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">reason</a> why Obama&#8217;s been taking so long to come to a decision on Afghanistan.  I myself am not quite sure how to react to this.</p>
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