Liberals Using War Tax and Draft Proposals to Blindside Patriots
Tags: Afghan Campaign, liberal lies, military draft.
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Various proposals are making the rounds to increase taxes to pay for the campaign in Afghanistan and, once again, to institute some sort of draft – this last bit the product of a curious bit of leftist thought that if we have a conscript army, we’d be more wary about going to war (in response to this, I offer WWI, WWI, Korea and Vietnam – all fought with conscript armies and, in my view, made longer and less successful by that very fact). What are we to make of this?
That the left is up to its usual, dishonest tricks. The left doesn’t care about paying for government and certainly doesn’t want larval leftists taken out of ACORN and put in to uniform where they might learn things such as discipline, independent thought and personal honor. No, this is all just a gambit to get the war lost and over with as soon as possible. Once again, the left sees an American defeat in war as the preferred option.
On the face of it, none of us could have the slightest argument with an increase in taxes to pay for war – but, if we are to make paying for the war out of current accounts the paradigm, then we have to admit that mere taxation, alone, won’t do the trick. In the end, we’ll also have to cut non-defense spending. This would not only mean no health care reform, but deep cuts in non-defense, discretionary spending. My candidates for the axe are Advisory Council on Historic Preservation, Agency for International Development, Agricultural Marketing Service, AMTRAK, Appalachian Regional Commission, US Access Board, Bonneville Power Administration, Bureau of Economic Analysis, Bureau of Industry and Security, Bureau of International Labor Affairs, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Transportation Statistics, Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion, Citizens Stamp Advisory Committee, Department of Commerce, Commission of Fine Arts, Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, Community Planning and Development, National Institute of Food and Agriculture, Corporation for National and Community Service, Council of Economic Advisers, Council on Environmental Quality, Denali Commission, Department of Education, Department of Energy, Department of Housing and Urban Development, Department of Labor, Department of Transportation, Domestic Policy Council, Office of Economic Adjustment, Economic Development Administration, Endangered Species Committee, Energy Department, Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy, Export-Import Bank of the United States, Federal Communications Commission, Federal Consulting Group, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, Federal Executive Boards, Federal Inter-agency Committee for the Management of Noxious and Exotic Weeds, Federal Trade Commission, Federal Transit Administration, Foreign Agricultural Service, Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board, Indian Arts and Crafts Board, Innovation and Improvement Office, Inter-agency Alternative Dispute Resolution Working Group, Inter-agency Council on Homelessness, Japan-United States Friendship Commission, Joint Board for the Enrollment of Actuaries, National Bi-partisan Commission on the Future of Medicare, National Economic Council, National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities, National Indian Gaming Commission, Rural Development, Surface Transportation Board and the Susquehanna River Basin Commission. Bet none of you had heard of most of those agencies.
Once the left gets serious about getting our spending under control by massively cutting these organizations, then we can sign on for tax increases. Heck, if the liberals would agree to the elimination of a random one of three of the above agencies, I’d agree to a 25% increase in my income taxes – I’d come out ahead just in the increased liberty and economic growth which would result from having that many government busy bodies no longer bothering people and wasting taxpayer money. Remember, most of these agencies grew up haphazardly – piled one on top of another by Congresses and Presidents making political hay by using the creation of a new agency or department as a means of pretending to be taking action.
Reform doesn’t necessarily mean adding something new – it can be re forming the government; making it back in to what it was before. A bit of weed whacking on the federal agencies would go a long ways towards getting our government under control as well as freeing up funds for other activities considered more pressing at the moment. But the left doesn’t want that – they just want to force us on the right to provide more funds for the insatiable maw of Big Government, and they will hold our troops in Afghanistan hostage until we agree.
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13 Responses to “Liberals Using War Tax and Draft Proposals to Blindside Patriots”
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In the end, we’ll also have to cut non-defense spending.
Bingo!!! There’s so much that we could cut from the budget, it’s ridiculous.
The left don’t want to hear it, though. They want government to control as much of our lives as possible.
Makes it even easier for them to be lazy…
Libs seem to be willing to use any excuse to increase taxes.
I won’t even comment on the idiocy of a draft reducing the dangers of fighting wars.
Perhaps the looting modern liberals should have thought of this before they spent $1.4 trillion on 8000 earmarks, political paybacks, slush funds (stimulus and bailouts), etc. etc. etc.
Obamateur said he had a new strategy for fighting “the real war in Afghanistan”. Is this it (new taxes) or was it just political promises to get elected or completely incompetent “planning” by an inexperienced individual?
“if we are to make paying for the war out of current accounts the paradigm, then we have to admit that mere taxation, alone, won’t do the trick.”
Why does this need to be the paradigm other than you said so? It’s time we paid off the Reagan defecit, the Bush deficit and the Obama deficit. Let the Bush tax cuts expire, roll back the Reagan taxcuts and remove the cap on Social Security and the problem is solved. Remember before the Bush tax cuts we grew 22 million jobs in 8 years so don’t tell me we need them to stimulate the economy. It’s just not true or borne out by history.
how about this…. a national sales tax.
where EVERYBODY PAYS, No EXEMPTIONS, No EXCEPTIONS…..
Then we can talk about a “war tax” maybe 1% on the natl sales tax MMMMMM?
aztec sweetie,
Those were tax RATE cuts, and historically, when more money is left to the private sector to stimulate growth, employment and business, federal revenues actually increase. It’s a really pretty simple, and well known fact. Just saying.
azt
It’s time we paid off the kennedy deficit, the johnson deficit, the carter deficit, Reagan deficit, the Bush deficit and the Obama deficit.
There fixed.
aztec,
Without looking it up, explain the function of each of the listed agencies and why they are all absolutely vital to the people of the United States. If you can do that, then you can reasonably argue that only tax increases can be used.
“Let the Bush tax cuts expire, roll back the Reagan taxcuts and remove the cap on Social Security and the problem is solved.”
So essentially you want to go back to the miserable days of Carter. Hint: we are already there (without the stifling taxes).
Come tax day 2010, many people will realize that the Obamateur “tax cut” was just deferred tax payments. The economy will only sink lower.
It has already been proven that tax increases stifle an economy with Bush Sr. When are you going to realize that tax increases do not translate into tax revenue increases and that those alone will not pay off the deficits?
Answer: NEVER, you are just a useful-idiot, lemming moocher who believes everything the looters tell you.
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“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.” – Dr. Adrian Rogers
“It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others’ productivity, when they modify the commandment: ‘Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.’ The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor.” – Gary North
James Madison warned: ‘Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and
contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.’
Alexander F. Tyler stated: ‘A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of
government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the treasury with the result that democracies always
collapse over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship.’
Fisher Ames stated: ‘Liberty has never lasted long in a democracy, nor has it
ever ended in anything better than despotism.’
Samuel Adams stated: ‘Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes itself,
exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not
commit suicide.’
As Benjamin Franklin emerged from Independence Hall in Philadelphia, he was asked by an onlooker what form of government he and his countrymen had created during the first and to date, only constitutional convention. His answer: ‘A Republic, if you can keep it.’
The Founders understood that there is a spectrum of Liberty that spans a
gradient from anarchy, which is 0% government and 100% Liberty, to
totalitarianism, which is 100% government and 0% Liberty. On this scale, Democracy is past the center and heading towards increasing government and Socialism. A little further past Socialism and you reach Fascism and then true totalitarianism — 100% government and zero individual Liberty.
Time and again, the modern liberal moochers and looters show that they are incapable of learning anything past their ideology.
Truly sad and pathetic.
Including WWII? Why?
Dude.
Also, how come no one ever talks about agency consolidation? Do we really need (to cite just one example I’m familiar with) an FBI, a CIA, an NSA, a DIA, an AIA, an MI, an MCIA, an ONI, an I&A, <i)and a CGI? Wouldn’t it make infinitely more sense to make the FBI exclusively responsible for domestic criminal matters and to then merge all of the various intelligence agencies into an eighth uniformed service (as was the idea originally before the various armed services nixed it)?
Also, speaking of Afghanistan, there’s good news from Herat.
Cluster, fair enough I’ll change the wording to tax rate increase but that doesn’t change the concept.
Mark, I don’t need to jump through your hoops, Thanks.
TOL, So are you for increasing tax revenues then? You say that cutting taxes increases revenues (not that I admit that is true). I’m all for paying off the debt that has accrued in my name over the last 40 years. It’s called personal responsibility.
aztec,
“I’m all for paying off the debt that has accrued in my name over the last 40 years. It’s called personal responsibility.”
Too bad the looters and moochers are not as “responsible” as you claim to be.
Uh, also, history has shown that lower tax rate INCREASE revenues and the higher tax rates DECREASE revenues. Too bad you missed that little detail in history.
Increasing tax revenues? Of course, but also put responsibility on those who pay very little or no taxes with EIC redistributions as well. The looters keep saying that the days of the free ride are over, but we both know that they mean the “free ride” is for the rich and those that EMPLOY others.
It is time to be responsible and the moochers pay their fair share and make their own way. Reduce entitlement spending and programs.
Those that are “poor” in this country will have to prioritize their spending … gone are the cell phones, iPods, flat screens, jewelry, cars and video game systems. It is time for them to spend their EARNED monies on food, healtcare and other basic necessities in life. It is time for them to shake of their well-deserved moocher status.