Iran, Not at All Afraid of America Under Obama, Seizes Iraqi Oil Well
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The result of the new diplomacy:
Iranian forces took control of a southern Iraqi oil well on a disputed section of the border on Friday, US and Iraqi officials told AFP.
“There has been no violence related to this incident and we trust this will be resolved through peaceful diplomacy between the governments of Iraq and Iran,” a US military spokesman told AFP at Contingency Operating Base Adder, just outside the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah.
There is no risk for Iran, here. They know Obama will not react with any force. They know the Iraqis are not in a position to act on their own. Meanwhile, this will spike oil prices helping Iran make money and, of course, it can be used as a blind in order to confuse the issue of Iran’s nuclear program. The Iranian mullahs perceive our weakness and are acting accordingly.
We can expect more and more of this as time goes on.
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44 Responses to “Iran, Not at All Afraid of America Under Obama, Seizes Iraqi Oil Well”
Caucus of Corruption
Short course in politics:
Iran has done a violent act.
We won’t respond with anything more than words.
Iran will probably eventually relinquish the well.
Iran will have demonstrated to the Gulf States that they have the courage to act violently while the US is unwilling to respond.
The Gulf States will become compliant to Iranian wishes against the US.
Iran would not have taken this action if they thought we would have reacted violently.
Prior to the Obama Administration, there was this belief in Iran.
There no longer is.
The world is less safe.
Sallieann, why don’t you proofread your crap before you post it? Are you yet another one of those college-educated libs who is too stupid to write complete thoughts?
As for Barachh Earbama, I’m sure the Idiot in Chief will ask Iran nicely to return the well to the Iraqis…
I’m sure the same thoughts were going through Chamberlain’s brain as yours, Sadie.
Oh, such a noble justification, Sadie. Unfortunately, like your Lord and Master, you haven’t the first clue about dealing with a hostile nation.
You advocate essentially doing nothing, which is what Obortion’s Iran policy is (and no, I don’t count stern words and finger-wagging as actually DOING anything.)
Given the lack of response, do you think that a nation as hostile as Iran is going to stop there? No, only a complete foll would ever believe that. Iran will continue doing as it pleases, because every act of aggression it has made since before Obama took office has been met with limp-wristed admonishments AT BEST. Iran doesn’t think that we’re going to do anything to stop it, so again, why would they stop?
Whereas, if we sent out troops in, wiped out those occupying that one oil well, and sent a clear message that Iran was will not be allowed to continue these behaviors without response, you can expect that Iran would at least slow it down. The second leg of this would be to actually DO something about their nuclear program. Like blow up one of their nuclear “plants” one early Sunday morning. Give them a clear message that they have poked the bear, and the bear ain’t happy, and you’ll see the mullahs backing down PDQ.
Modern liberals like sadie will never learn from history. They are of the opinion that if they do the same thing as before they will get a different result.
Look at how they propped up the Obamateur. With his golden words read from a teleprompter he would solve the worlds problems – terrorists will put down their arms, Iran and N. Korea would stop developing nuclear weapons, etc. etc.
Besides, she believes that Obamateur deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.
“What do you mean by “wiped out”? How would you weasel your way out of the, “Thou Shalt Not Kill” Commandment?”
Why don’t you ask the Jews that were ordered by God to wipe those tribes and cities of people in their journey to the promised land?
or how are you and the other modern liberals going to weasel out of supporting the murder of millions of the unborn?
I love these modern liberal useful idiots who quote the commandments or the bible only when it suits them. Any other time they could care less about those quotes.
I’m sure the same thoughts were going through Chamberlain’s brain as yours, Sadie.
Chamberlain didn’t have much of a brain. Hey, he, sadie, and rachelglob have one thing in common, at least…
Nice try, Rachel. But biblical references would probably work better on a Christian. I happen to be agnostic.
But allow me to turn the question around on you. What about “Thou Shalt Not Kill” when Iran carries through on its promise to eradicate Israel, wipe them off the map? Which death toll do you think will be higher a show of strength on the part of the US, or the genocidal aspirations of Iran and the so-called Religion of Peace?
Guess what? In a war, PEOPLE DIE. It happens. Despite your attempts to cast all Conservatives as war-mongers, let me point out a couple of really simple facts for you.
1: WE DID NOT START THIS WAR. Islamonazis declared war, JIHAD, on US. The lack of response from Clinton encouraged these terrorists to bigger and more horrific things, just as the lack of response from Obama is encouraging Iran and the other terrorist-sympathetic countries to escalate.
2: The “cowboyism” of Bush, that you libs and the Eurotrash always whine about helped keep the attacks on US soil down to ONE in eight years (ad we have Clinton’s bumbling to thank for that one attack), introduced democracy and a taste of Freedom to several countries in the Middle East, and made the world a much safer place for a time.
3: There is a MASSIVE difference between WANTING a war and recognizing the NECESSITY of a war. Islam has only THREE allowed ways to deal with non-muslims, especially when Jihad has been called: the enemy must convert to Islam, accept Dhimmitude (slavery), or die. We can’t buy our way out of this, or talk our way out. Iran has used these idiotic attempts at sit-downs to stall, giving them the time they need to complete a functional nuclear weapon and a functional delivery system capable of reaching Israel. And thanks to Obama’s disastrous foreign policy (as admitted by his own Sec of State) Iran is within DAYS of accomplishing that.
Negotiations failed the SECOND Jihad was declared on us. The immediate response should have been a smackdown to remind these barbaric thugs who the big dog in the yard is. Mo’s Life Rule 3: If you negotiate from strength, you are offering concessions. If you negotiate from weakness, you’re surrendering. Obama (and to an extent, Bush as well) refused to act according to our strength. Now we stand weakened.
Sadie, based on US military doctrine? Are you high? I know of no general that would recommend progressing from 50 lives lost in a gunfight to employing our nuclear arsenal.
As for the Mullahs being desperate, clearly. And they are choosing to capture an Iraqi oil well, threaten Israel and the US, and build a nuclear missile as a means of distraction from problems in their government? Wow, that’s one hell of a distraction. Maybe they are running low on bullets to gun down their rebellious citizenry. So logically, they build a nuke.
Right.
The Iranians showed up, ordered the Iraqi workers to leave, erected an Iranian flag, and left themselves. There wasn’t really enough time for the US military to move in. The Iraqi military was in the area, and why they didn’t do anything is being investigated.
In the meantime, this is expected to hurt al-Maliki politically (remember, they’re having an election in March), and is likely to have the effect of moving Baghdad away from Iran’s sphere of influence.
No, what was going through Chamberlain’s brain was, “I need guns, lots of guns, lots of BIG guns…” People have a tendency to forget that Britain had disarmed after WWI, and that while Chamberlain was trying to avert or at least delay the war, he was also remilitarizing Britain so they could win that war.
How about crippling the Iranian energy sector?
Yes, by immediately retreating.
With all due respect, Sadie, you are madder than a baboon’s necktie.
There is also truce, which, you’ll note, is the position that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are taking towards us. And before you even ask, no, funding proxy wars is not an acceptable substitute (al-Qaeda’s been having some severe financial difficulties anyway). If there’s a war going on and you have helicopter gunships, it’s your responsibility to use them.
That’s actually not that far from the truth. If they massacre the protesters, they might as well just lynch themselves and be done with it. Remember, if there’s one people in the world who know how to unseat a government, it’s the Iranians.
Sergei,
I hadn’t realized that they have revived the “Chamberlain was playing for time to rearm” argument. The fact of the matter is that even if Chamberlain were playing for time, he had to do so because of the policies he had advocated as Chancellor of the Exchequer. The UK could have started to re-arm in 1934 and been ready to confront Hitler with sufficient force by 1937…it was deliberate policy on the part of Baldwin and Chamberlain – and especially by Chamberlain – to not rearm as the whole plan was to appease Hitler until peace was secured. Chamberlain only decided to confront Hitler when it was clear that the House of Commons would overthrow him if he didn’t…and even then, on September 1st, 1939, he tried to set up another Munich, only being stopped by an immediate threat of bankbencher revolt.
Your professors have done you a grave disservice in your education.
I can’t call you names, even if I was inclined to do so, because Mark will delete them.
Not only are you a stupid cow, you’re also a liar. Many of the troll pukes here have called me names; they’re still here, polluting this blog just as you and ratchetglob are.
As for Mark deleting your comments, I welcome that. I wish he’d ban you, rachetglob, and all the other silly lib cows.
Sending troops in okay. You do that and a variety of things might happen but you opened this can of worms.
Poor sentence structure, but my superior intellect enables me to decipher even the stupidest drivel.
Nobody here “opened this can of worms.” Iran did, back in 1979. You probably weren’t even a failed abortion back then, so you wouldn’t know, unless some history teacher told you. And if that’s the case, you were probably told it was America’s fault. You probably bought into the lie, being that you’re a stupid lemming, and all…
Well Tmfo a.k.a. Agnostic,
I just love false accusations and quotes. “…Iran carries through on its promise to eradicate Israel, wipe them off the map?” Like WMD’s in Iraq, and pure objective thinking among those in the right wing, the above quote is false.
What the President of Iran was referring to was the need for a regime/government change in Israel. As was put, “”…like communism and fascism, Zionism will be wiped off the page of time.” Furthermore, he was quoting Khomeni. Nothing in there mentioned the destruction of Israel. Zionism is a political movement, not a religion.
Before you go overboard, and start making other false statements, like Iranians are anti-Semitic, etc…. consider this. Iran has a sizeable contingent of Iranian Jews.
“…genocidal aspirations of Iran and the so-called Religion of Peace?” Hmmmmm…. Would bigotry be a good term to describe your views towards another religion or those that adhere to another religion? Please see references to your “points” below:
1. What exactly is it that you know about the origins of terrorism?
2. Nice name calling, how surprising a right-winger would resort to doing such things. “Helped keep the attacks on US soil down to ONE in eight years…” Because something didn’t happen does not mean it was prevented. Exactly where was democracy and the “taste of Freedom” introduced. With puppet governments, etc? You can’t be that naïve can you?
3. First Iraq “had” WMD’s, so troops had to act. Now admittedly, Iran does not have any WMD’s, but “could” have one in the near future, therefore it’s a threat. Troops “must” be used right?
“…according to our strength…” The economy is down the tubes, the military over extended, and warfare is continuing to sap precious lives and funds in the mean time. Why overextend yourself, and pick a third fight, when the other two haven’t yet been won?
Thanks for the lessons in Islam, and the, “Three allowed ways to deal with non-muslims…” I can also quote concerning statements from the Talmud if you like. But, you’d be better off looking them up yourself, considering anything that I would quote would be deleted by certain persons running this site.
Keef,
Interesting. “Nobody here “opened this can of worms.” Iran did, back in 1979. You probably weren’t even a failed abortion back then, so you wouldn’t know, unless some history teacher told you. And if that’s the case, you were probably told it was America’s fault. You probably bought into the lie, being that you’re a stupid lemming, and all…”
Really classy, but that’s a given coming from you. What do you know of 1979? In a nutshell, it wasn’t a rebellion against a US installed dictator, being supported by the US and the local secret police service, “Savak” right? Nothing to do with the rejection of torture, abuse, and corruption of a puppet government right? Of course not! The Shah was democratically elected right?
Rachelglom, aka commie douchebag hippie:
Try typing “ahmedinejad death israel” at youtube, idiot.
He’s not saying “Death to Zion.” He’s saying “Death to ISRAEL.”
He’s not saying “Regime Change To Israel.” He’s saying DEATH.
Is it bigotry to tell the truth? If I encounter a black man and say Hey, that guy is black” is that racist? No. It’s a simple statement of FACT, something you liberal appeasers, race-baiters, and utter morons have yet to figure out. Where do I get the Convert/Dhimmi/Kill thing? From the QURAN, in the words of their PROPHET MOHAMMED. You know, the guy who advocated marrying and consummating with a woman before she begins menstruating? So she’s pure? And then did so by marrying a NINE YEAR OLD, then consummated when she turned TWELVE?
I’ve encountered quite a few trolls in my time here in the blog-o-sphere, but you have to be the absolutely least informed I have ever seen.
What do I know about the origins of terror? Quite a bit actually, being a history buff. Based on your posts, I think it safe to say I have forgotten more about terrorism than you will ever learn.
I see people in countries where they had very little rights and less say in their leaders braving attacks to vote for their leaders. I see regions of Iraq and A-stan having clean water and electricity for the first time in decades. I see a madman and his two brutish sons executed and NOT killing their own citizens for speaking out against their government. I’d call that a little taste of freedom.
First, we were given intel by our allies, who tend to be pretty damn accurate, that Iraq had or was pursuing WMDs. Then after dicking around with the UN for about six months, we finally went in. But then, there’s just NO WAY Saddam could have scooted that stuff out of the country in that amount of time, huh? Why, that would have required Saddam knowing in advance that the US was coming after him, by about six months.
Oh, wait.
Well, when all this trouble started we WEREN’T in such a dire financial crisis. And in matters of priority, I think stopping a terror-sponsoring state like Iran from getting a nuke is a pretty damn high priority. Considering how freaked out you leftist wussies get about nukes, I would think you guys would be all over this one. But no, since it’s an Islamic country that hates America doing it, it’s okay with you. Birds of a feather and all that.
Most religions do have disturbing things in them. I defy you to find ANYTHING in the New or Old Testament or in Judaism that is as horrific as Islam. Genocide, murder, slavery, child molestation, gross mistreatment of women, mutilation, lying, theft…you won’t find Moses or Abraham or Christ preaching to do these things as a rule. Mohammed DOES.
I didn’t just wake up one day and decide to be an agnostic. I was raised a Christian. I studied a variety of different versions of the New and Old testament. I’ve read a number of translations of both the Talmud and the Quran. I’ve studied Hinduism, Kabbalah, even Scientology. And after doing so, I decided that God, for lack of a better term, must be so far beyond human understanding that none of the religions has the hotline to Heaven. If such a being exists, a human can not KNOW this being. I still lean towards Christianity, not because I believe that Christ was Divine, but because he had a damn fine message: be nice to people.
You won’t find that in the Quran, except in regards of behavior towards other Muslims, and then only if they adhere strictly to the Word of Allah as interpreted by his “prophet” Mohammed. Christ teaches forgiveness, Mohammed teaches death.
And these are the people who are trying to gain nuclear weapons? And you’re okay with that.
Tell you what, Rachel. Why don’t you hop across the Big Pond and live in one of these Islamic countries for a year. If you manage to survive, feel free to come back here and tell us of your experience with the “Religion of Peace.”
keef,
Its heading that way.
Sadie, do you have anything to refute or disprove what tfmo has typed or are you going to go down the normal path the libs on this site take and just blindly insult anyone you disagree with?
Iran took the Iraqi oil well to test the world reaction. It is interesting that you bring up the nazi reference because what Iran has done is very similar to what Germany did in the 1930’s. They started with small tracks of land here and there then when there was no real objection they started taking more and more.
“The al-Fakkah field is considered a shared field between Iran and Iraq, meaning both nations are able to pump oil from it, but the Iraqis consider oil well No. 4 theirs.
Iranian soldiers carrying rifles seized the well Thursday night in a 25-car convoy and ordered the Iraqi workers to leave the area, according to a worker at the site who did not want to be identified for fear of retribution. The soldiers then mounted an Iranian flag inside the well, he said.
There were no reports of violence during the incident, and Iranian forces left the well on Friday, leaving the flag behind, the worker said. His account could not be immediately confirmed.”
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/12/ap_iran_iraq_oil_well_121809/
Funny you should mention Nazism, Sadie…considering that that the third reich had much more in common with today’s liberals than with today’s conservatives.
In case you didn’t notice, I’m in FAVOR of Israel. Not exactly a Nazi thing. I’m also against abortion, which was condoned and encouraged under Hitler’s eugenics program. I’m also against the nationalization of industry, which Hitler was for (funny thing, he started with the banks and the auto industry. HMMMMM.) I’m also against the idea of butchering the Second Admendment (one of the first things Hitler did was grab the guns from the citizenry). Also not a big fan of genocide (and I think several MILLION Jews would be with me on that one, had they not been slaughtered by the “master race.”)
Oddly enough, the “Party of the Little Guy” is in favor of abortion, gun control, nationalization of industry, and certainly leans towards anti-Semitism.
I’ve actually already answered this in a post on my site, JBYP.
As for “blatant disregard for religion”, hardly. I have no problem with people holding the beliefs of a particular religion. I have no problem with the idea of religion. What I have a problem with is using religion as an excuse to engage in horrific behavior. I am not a fan of many of the things Christians did throughout history, but guess what? Atrocities committed in the name of Christ were NOT in adherence to Christ’s teachings. Islam can not make that claim.
I don’t know what Mark’s preferred path to the afterlife is. But he’s perfectly welcome to it. That’s the great thing about America; you can worship however you want, or not at all if you so choose. You don’t get that choice under Sharia Law. If Mark is a Christian, then he has his path, and his faith helps sustain him in his life. Me, my mind doesn’t work that way; faith is not my thing. But it hasn’t stopped me from wishing people a Merry Christmas, or saying Bless you when someone sneezes. Just because I have no faith doesn’t mean I can’t recognize and respect faith held by others.
So yes, by all means, call me a Nazi, Sadie. As with every other word you type, you prove your willing ignorance and inherent stupidity. Your Lord and Master Obama would be so proud to have such a good little foot soldier.
Success as a President? Honey, either you’re on way too many meds, or not NEARLY enough.
These “truly difficult times” are due in a very large part to your Lord and Master. In case you’ve forgotten, Obama was a Senator. Which means that he voted for many of the things that has wrecked our economy in the past few years. Not to mention that TARP bill that you and he likes to blame on Bush? Yeah, Obama voted for that too. Plus a couple of Spendulus bills that haven’t done piss-all for the economy, except increase our deficit to levels undreamed of by any and all previous presidents. Plus a few pork bills that he SWORE he would never never never never never NEVAR allow to pass his desk. Turns out these dogs were for two purposes. 1: Payola to the various special interests and unions that helped get him and other Dems elected, and 2: expand and already bloated government.
His HOPERcare bill will not do a damn thing to fix the problems in medical insurance or healthcare; in fact, it’s going to make everything WORSE. Several MILLION people added to the system, and no provisions or incentive to gain new doctors and nurses? Why don’t you take a quick peek at CanadaCare? That’s what Obama is trying to push us towards.
Cap and Trade is no better; ridiculous laws that will not do a damn thing to help the environment, but will certainly stifle industry and further kill our economy, all based on an unproven theory that’s looking more and more like an alarmist hoax.
A disastrous foreign policy that’s allowing a terror-sponsoring nation gain nuclear weapons? Insulting, abandoning, and in the case of Israel, outright hostility towards our allies, while he plays patty-cake with our enemies?
A big chunk of our economic problems stem from the housing crash. Gee, where did all that get started? Well, first with FDR’s socialist policies, then made worse by Carter’s Community Reinvestment act, and made worse still by Clinton forcing lenders to make loans to people that had no chance in hell of ever repaying. And who benefitted the most from all this? Why, the unions and community organizers, and two senators in particular: Chris Dodd and SURPRISE! Barack Obama. And it’s kinda funny that Obama said he wanted the people who caused this mess to shut up and get out of the way. If only they would…
Sadie, Obama has already proven himself no more capable of being a leader than Carter, and in a quarter of the time.
Do I want him to fail? Only if he insists on policies that are damaging to our country. If he’ll pull his head out of his ass and actually start HELPING the country, stop all this lunatic spending, stop attacking the private sector, stop this Cloward-Piven-on-crack path to destruction, then I would be delighted to support him.
sadie, we don’t have to want Obamateur to fail. He is doing the job all on his own.
But since you are a collectivist, and we have a marxist for a president, then you are happier than a pig in slop.
tfmo
Rachelglom, aka commie douchebag hippie:
LOL LOL
dont forget FORKER from “HELL”
sadieforker
Do I want him to fail?
OH YEAH BIG TIME.
a stroke or heart attack would be much better though,
but I would settle for “aunt esther” michelle doing him in some night when she catches him and larry sinclair together.
(not to be construed as a threat just wishful thinking, kind of like the libs and Clarence Thomas)
The Iranian mullahs perceive our weakness and are acting accordingly.
We can expect more and more of this as time goes on.
OOH yeah,
watch N.Korea, and hamas.
the blood is in the water and the sharks are circling.
the POS is yanking his rope in europe participating in a scam of biblical proportions and no one is in charge.
Neocon:
Stroke or heart attack
Yeah, but look at his replacement. Joe Biden? The sad fact is, the next fifteen or so people in the chain of command are no better than Obama (some are actually WORSE, which is pretty damn scary all by itself.)
Neo, I keep seeing this “FORKER” thing in this site. Is this a play on the more sexually explicit word, or is there something else?
It is a website – the pitchfork…”hells leading daily newspaper”.dis brimstone.
it is a putrid pornographic anti Christian sodomite filled trash heap.
sadie is one of a string of paid trolls by media matters, and ACORN who originate from that site to be trolls on conservative sites. most get bounced by mark after a week or so.
tfmo
Yeah, but look at his replacement. Joe Biden?
biden is no commie though,
and think of the three years of comedic “bidens” we could rack up.
Biden is a blithering idiot, but zer0 is a VERY dangerous ideologue.
Precisely. Biden IS an idiot. Which means the TEAM will be making his decisions. Which team? Obama’s team. End result? SS,DD. The whole lot of them are nothing more than Alinsky/Cloward-Piven commie fascists, not worth crossing the street to piss on if they were on fire.
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rachelglom forker from hell says:
December 19th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
“Try typing “ahmedinejad death israel” at youtube, idiot.”Wow, what a great idea. According to you, that must be true if it’s on youtube right? Sorry, when I conduct research I try not to use youtube as a citation to prove my point(s).
Try citing a specific link which you think is a factual representation of what was said.
“Is it bigotry to tell the truth? If I encounter a black man and say Hey, that guy is black” is that racist? No. It’s a simple statement of FACT, something you liberal appeasers, race-baiters, and utter morons have yet to figure out.”
I love this argument that you and other bigots bring up. If you encountered a black man and indicated that he was black, then that in itself is not racist.
I don’t know if you can escape your stupidity to realize that what matters is context. I remember a while back that there was a shooting of a soldier at a recruiting station. In reference to the suspect, someone wrote a post describing him as a, “BLACK Muslim.” The author of that quote may have been correct, but the context of the statement is bigotry. Why capitalize the word, “black”?
“What do I know about the origins of terror? Quite a bit actually, being a history buff. Based on your posts, I think it safe to say I have forgotten more about terrorism than you will ever learn.”
Boy, that really clarifies matters. Still doesn’t prove that you known a damn thing about the subject.
“First, we were given intel by our allies, who tend to be pretty damn accurate, that Iraq had or was pursuing WMDs.” Blah, blah, blah…right.
It would be difficult to have “scooted” those trillions, and trillions of wMD’s out of the country with all the sanctions, no fly zones, intel operations, and etc. going on. You’re speculating on something that has not been proven.
“Well, when all this trouble started we WEREN’T in such a dire financial crisis.”
So there was no crisis when all this trouble started? The economy was fantastic wasn’t it?
“…still lean towards Christianity, not because I believe that Christ was Divine, but because he had a damn fine message: be nice to people.”
And you’re doing a fine job as far as being nice to people aren’t you? Oh wait, that’s Jesus’ job. Hypocrite.
“Rachelglom, aka commie douchebag hippie:”
Try using a spelling application. It’s actually, “douche bag”. Is there something wrong with “commies” tfmo? Be careful, you might upset them. After all, money is being borrowed from them to finance wars.
China owns your ass, and if you want to continue to wage wars to “spread democracy” (thus ensuring that any and all your family’s descendants from here to eternity will be paying interest alone on the money borrowed), then you should tone down the rhetoric.
“Funny you should mention Nazism, Sadie…considering that that the third reich had much more in common with today’s liberals than with today’s conservatives.”
More in common with today’s liberals? Really? Why don’t you explain how Christian nationalism was exploited in Germany to facilitate the actions of the Nazi party?
FUBO and you to forker!!
Perhaps if you had more than two functioning braincells, you’d figure out that by typing Ahmedinejad Death Israel, it would give you about a dozen pieces of FOOTAGE of Ahmedinejad HIMSELF saying crap like this. Is Youtube and authority? No, but I would think that SEEING THE MAN HIMSELF SAYING THESE THINGS would be proof enough.
It still astonishes me that you assholes on the left can accuse a person of racism WITH NO PROOF WHATSOEVER. Please, DO point out in ANY of my posts where I made a racist statement. Feel free to use Google, if you must. Go to my website. Go the Christmas Ghost’s website, where I also post. Go to Pirate’s Cove, where I comment quite a bit. Find ANY racist statement that I have made.
Perhaps if you had those two functioning braincells, you’d figure out that ISLAM IS NOT A RACE. It is a RELIGION. Lily white Caucasians can be Muslim, as can Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Eskimos, Filipinos, Australian Aborigines, American Indians, etc, etc, etc. So please, DO explain how my dislike of ISLAM is racist.
Still waiting on YOUR credentials on the origin of terrorism. Do you require a list of every book I’ve read on the subject? Every post I’ve made on the subject? Every interview I’ve read? Every history book I’ve studied?
Tough shit.
Blah blah blah. Right. I don’t recall anyone saying there was “trillions and trillions.” If you have such information, by all means, POST A LINK. No Fly Zones…perhaps you’ve missed the past 100 years or so, but we have these awesome things called CARS AND TRUCKS. Sanctions, made by the UN, which Saddam routinely ignored or circumvented through deceit. 14, as I recall. Etc, apparently you feel that we have satellites pointed at every square inch of the planet 24/7, and a few MILLION people to spare watching every second of it. Oh, and we have even more people lined up around the border of Iraq, arm in arm, forming a human barrier that no one could get through. Oh, and we had them there BEFORE we went in. Good God, woman, is it possible to be THIS damn stupid and still be able to work a keyboard?
No, our economy wasn’t great before Obama hit Pennsylvania Avenue, but it was a HELL of a lot better than it is now. And again, you can NOT lay all this on Bush. It took Congress and Senate, and a hell of a lot of bald-faced LYING to get our economy this screwed up, and this happened because of people on BOTH sides of the aisle. But guess which party had majority in the Legislative Branch for TWO YEARS before Obama got elected? Yeah, that would be YOUR team, writing these ridiculous bills. And it’s Bush’s fault for DOING WHAT YOU WANTED. Eat it.
Be nice to people. Hypocrite? Hardly. You see, I don’t consider you a person, so blow me. I said I like his message. I didn’t say I followed it. I like motorcycles too, doesn’t mean I own one.
And I see you latched on to the tried and true liberal debate technique: when you have no argument, go after the spelling. Bravo. And yes, there is something wrong with Commies. They’re idiots. So you’re in good company. And no I don’t agree with the idea of borrowing ONE THIN DIME from China. But guess who’s borrowing from them now? That would be your Lord and Master.
I assume you are an American (by location, not by patriotism, obviously) That means the Chinese own YOUR ass too. Bend over, toots.
Christian nationalism EXPLOITED. Try reading your own stupidity sometime, hm? And do please tell me how Hitler’s policy DOESN’T compare with current liberal policy?
Abortion? Check.
Gun control? Check.
Anti-semitism? Check.
Nationalizing private industries and banks? Check.
Extensive welfare? Check.
Stifling free speech? Check.
Encouraging class warfare? Check.
“Youth Brigades?” Check.
Government as God? Check.
Rachel, you have got to be one of the most ignorant people I have ever encountered. Your arguments are crap, not based on a single fact, but rather just the meme handed to you by your Lord and Master, which you parrot incessantly and without question. You attempt to sway people who are far more intelligent than you, and when what passes for your intellect fails, you trot out the race card, again based not on fact, but some twisted fantasy where you HAVE to demonize those who disagree with you because you can’t win an argument otherwise. You come to an obviously right-leaning website and post your annoying, foolish drivel, despite the fact that the only people who agree with you are equally brain damaged.
You’re a fart in a car, Rachel, and you contribute just about that much to any discussion. Perhaps if you actually read a book instead of grabbing a bong, maybe if you spent more than a few minutes studying such wild and wacky topics as economy, history, religion, math, etc, you might actually lend a little weight to your words. But no, American Idol is far more interesting, and why bother finding things out for yourself when George Soros has it already prepared for you in a nice neat package. He even made sure the words weren’t to big, wasn’t that nice of the old Nazi sympathizing bastard?
Psst…you might want to lighten up on calling people Nazis, considering that Soros, the guy that’s funding most of your liberal buddies, started his fortune by helping the Nazis find Jews in exchange for having first pick of their belongings. And no, that’s not a right-wing conspiracy; that’s from Soros’s own mouth. Feel free to look it up.
Idiot.
What’s the matter tmfo? Are we in a poo poo mood? About seeing the Iranian President give a speech, I thought it was in Farsi.
You speak Farsi? I don’t, and I’m not going to trust some of the videos, “accurately translated” by trustworthy individuals.
What makes you think I’m an, “American”?
“when you have no argument, go after the spelling. ”
Just a tactic I learned from your ilk. You’re offended that I’m using the same techniques?
“He even made sure the words weren’t to big, wasn’t that nice of the old Nazi sympathizing bastard?”
Please change, “to” to “too.” :) I haven’t researched Soros lately. Never had the interest.
“…HAVE to demonize those who disagree with you because you can’t win an argument otherwise.”
Isn’t that what you right wingers do? Look at what you’re saying about, and calling me genius.
“DO point out in ANY of my posts where I made a racist statement.”
I consider you a bigot, not necessarily a racist. If you’re referencing my comments about a poster mentioning that the shooting suspect was a, “BLACK Muslim”, I wasn’t referring to you.
No, I don’t need a list of your reading materials…I see how you’ve turned out. I’ve long ago stopped reading Mad Magazine, and Dick and Jane books.
Mark, I’m just curious what are your post policies regarding language content? If people who lean towards the right can use the following words or phrases, can those that lean towards the left do the same?
“*ssholes”
“don’t consider you a person, so blow me.”
“bastard”
Let me guess male, white, over 45 and living in the South?
let me guess, fat white female, minority bastard kid, welfare queen living in da hood, most likely non practicing jewish.
glumptrollforker
dont forget douchebag ——-douchebag!
FUBO and YOU!!
Troll, troll, troll your boat gently down the stream.
“Poo poo mood”? Well, you’ve certainly proved that you’re too young to be posting on a grown-up blog. Run along and tell Mommy and Daddy you need nappy-time, and maybe a cookie.
And no, child, it would take more than your blatant stupidity to put me in a bad mood. At BEST, you’re an annoyance.
Do I speak Farsi? No, but I think it’s safe to assume that the Iranian President, making a speech recorded by the state-controlled Iranian media, is going to be translated accurately.
Not an American? Oh, then you must be from one of those hundreds of countries that we’ve been protecting for the past hundred years or so, going out and fighting thugs and dictators and madmen so you can get on the innarwebs and spout nonsense. YOU’RE WELCOME.
By the by, since you’re not an American, you’re probably not really in a position to make suggestions regarding our policy. Feel free to shut up until you’re relevant.
You can also feel free to locate the posts where I have gone after others for their spelling. Take all the time you need.
Never researched Soros? So you don’t know where your money is coming from. Typical lefty, who cares who it costs, so long as you get to keep on that gravy train, huh?
Unlike you, along with the insults, there are ACTUAL FACTS. I provide factual information. You just provide flatulence.
Sooo, I’m a bigot based on…the words of someone else. And you wonder why people here insult you.
I was always more of a “Cracked Magazine” guy, myself. Better art.
If any of the actual human beings on this site were offended by my language, I apologize. If YOU were offended by my language, tough. I’m offended by accusations of bigotry. I’m offended by the murder of unborn babies. I’m offended by barbaric thugs chopping the heads of people. I’m offended by people who are okay with government policies that demands the execution of homosexuals. I’m offended by clitorectomies. I’m offended by slavery. I’m offended by genocide. And I’m offended by know-nothing elitist commie troll hippies who come to Conservative websites for the sole purpose of disrupting conversations.
Sadie, are you trying to ask me out on a date or something? Sorry, but I’m married. Even if I wasn’t, I don’t date inbred skanks.
White? Actually, no. Native American, mostly, with a dash of Irish.
Male? Yes.
45? No.
South? Not so much.
One out of four. For you, that’s pretty darn good! Go have another big fat joint and another box of Ho-ho’s. You’ve earned it!
“Not an American?…”
What makes you think I’m not an, “American”?
“Oh, then you must be from one of those hundreds of countries that we’ve been protecting for the past hundred years or so, going out and fighting thugs and dictators and madmen so you can get on the innarwebs and spout nonsense.”
Yes, “fighting thugs” in countries like:
El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Honduras, Panama, Chile, Cuba, Bolivia, Argentina, Paraguay, Taiwan, South Vietnam, South Korea, Pakistan, Philippines, Fiji, Indonesia, Iran, Zaire, etc, etc, and etc.
If you, “…provide factual information” and I, “just provide flatulence”, explain the above-mentioned list of countries.
Are any of the countries listed, “…in a position to make suggestions regarding our policy”?
My apologies for your clitoral issues. You should get it checked out.
“Male” – Doubtful (A Vienna Sausage and Two Peanuts Don’t Count)
“45” – Physically maybe. Mentally…. That’s difficult to fathom.
Are there any countries on the above listed in a position to make suggestions regarding our policy? Depends on the policy. Domestic? No. Economy? No. Foreign policy? Only as it affects their own individual country, and only to a certain extent.
My clitoral issues. Huh. Maybe you should look up the word “clitorectomy.” That’s the charming ISLAMIC practice of mutilating women to help insure they don’t cheat on their husbands. Often, this happens to women too young to give legal consent, which means that it’s their parents making this horrid decision. The idea is, if a woman is unable to become sexually aroused, she is less likely to stray.
Since you are a liberal, I assume the ideas of human rights and women’s rights are familiar to you? Please, do tell how you left-tards reconcile condoning genital mutilation of women with your rhetoric.
Male? Very much so. And I find your fascination with my anatomy rather disturbing…bordering on sexual harrassment…but then, you probably don’t believe that it’s possible for a “womyn” to sexually harrass a guy.
Age, as I said, I am not 45. Any clarification beyond that is none of your damn business. As for my mental acuity, my IQ could be single-digit, and I would still slaughter you in a debate. You still bring nothing. No facts, just the usual liberal screed. You seem to think we all operate in a vacuum, but I have news for you, dumpling. I, like most of us here, have had this EXACT same debate dozens of times before. As usual, your “argument” is lockstep with pretty much every other troll I’ve encountered. And like those other trolls, your argument was defeated before you even turned on your computer.
You come to a Conservative site, you spew a bunch of provocative nonsense, you start an argument, you lose the argument, you switch topics, you lose THAT argument, you accuse others of changing the subject, you start with the insults, then progress to the race card, then sexual slander, yet still provide zilch in the way of an actual intellectual argument. And it does go a few more steps beyond that. I won’t bother listing that part; everyone here already knows the outcome, and those who don’t, well, I don’t want to give away the ending. But here’s a little hint: You lose.
I see I failed to mention one other little aspect of clitorectomies, as practiced in Islam. If the “parents” can’t afford to have it surgically done, the female relatives will gather, hold the girl down, and remove her clitoris with any sharp object that is handy; a kitchen knife, a piece of glass, a sharp rock, whatever.
And by your duck and weave to insult me, I note that you DID NOT make any claim to be against this practice. Are we to take, then, by this omission, that you have no problem with this practice?
Pointless, off-topic, leftist rant deleted.
Point.
No point. As I have said about 900 times (and it quite frankly worries me that you seem unable to grasp something this simple), my major was Persian language and literature. It is stupid to think that a discussion of the etymology of the New Persian preposition zir (it’s from *sekʷ- and *n̥dher-, for the record) could even conceivably have led to a discussion of interwar Britain’s defense policy.
As someone who speaks Persian, I would like to assure you that the above argument is bull. Majnun’s statement (“Ân rezhim… bâyad az safhe-ye ruzgâr mahv beshavad”) quite clearly speaks, not of changing, but of being erased, and the Iranian press always refers to Israel as a “regime” or as “Zionists”) because they don’t recognize the State of Israel’s right to exist.
Who are oppressed. Before you continue to argue that Iran is not anti-Semitic, I suggest you watch this.
Well, there are some nuances that are difficult to convey. “Death to _______”, for example, is a general statement of opposition, not an actual wish for physical destruction (at least not necessarily).
Cracked is awesome.
Well, there are some nuances that are difficult to convey.
You have GOT to be kidding, Sergei. What nuance is there in “Death to Israel”?
Here’s some other quotes from Ahmedingaling:
Israel is doomed to be “wiped from the map” in “a war of destiny.”
“the countdown for the destruction of Israel”
“the personification of Satan.”
“suicide is an invincible weapon. Suicide bombers in this land showed us the way, and they enlighten our future. The will to commit suicide is one of the best ways of life.”
Yeah, I’m not getting a lot of nuance here. Mahmoud isn’t parsing words, he’s flat-out threatening to destroy Israel, and working steadily towards that goal.
I’m opposed to Obama. If I run around yelling “Death to Obama,” I’m gonna get locked up. I don’t like the guy, I loathe his policies, but I don’t want the guy dead!
If some lunatic is running around yelling “Death to (insert enemy)”, has done so more than once, uses every opportunity to threaten (insert enemy), and he’s days away from having his very own nuke, I say we err on the side of caution and assume he’s serious, lest we “nuance” ourselves into the Apocalypse!
tfmo
I don’t like the guy, I loathe his policies, but I don’t want the guy dead!
On November 4, 1994, Malveaux famously stated of Supreme Court Justice Thomas: “I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease….He is an absolutely reprehensible person.”
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I think the same goes for POS zer0
Yet when protesters started chanting “Marg bar Khâmeneh-i” and “Marg bar diktâtur”, it was treated as a political development, not an actual death threats. To the best of my knowledge, the crowds that chanted that were treated no differently than the other crowds. The reason for this is that all “Marg bar XYZ” really means is “I don’t like XYZ”, or even “I am an Iranian”. In order to understand why this is the case, you need to understand the conflicting feelings that have shaped Iranian culture since the Revolution. When the Hostage Crisis began and Khomeini endorsed the hostage-takers, Iranians felt they should support them, after all, Khomeini had just freed them from the Shah, and there was not yet any need for them to be freed from Khomeini. For this reason, people felt obligated to take part in the demonstrations and chant “Marg bar Âmrikâ” for the cameras. They didn’t actually have any problems with America, though, so they still welcomed the cameramen, and tried to explain as best they could. It makes sense from an Iranian perspective, but Westerners couldn’t understand that it was tongue-in-cheek, that it was (for lack of a better word) تعارف.
Yeah, I had just said that.