When Liberal Worlds Collide

Liberals brought us rampant drug use and global warming – now these two hallmarks of liberal progress are on a collision course:

Cocaine users were last night accused of helping to make global warming worse.

MPs on the home affairs select committee said the drug was devastating Colombian rainforests because trees are knocked down to grow coca plants.

Group chairman Keith Vaz said: “We were horrified to learn for every few lines of cocaine snorted in a London club, four square metres of rainforest is destroyed.”

Who knew that personal irresponsibility could cause problems? Some day liberals might even figure that extra-marital sex can be a tricky business, too. A whole bunch of liberalism gets called in to question here.

Unless, of course, liberals want to drop the whole global warming thing?



Mark Noonan is co-author (with Matt Margolis) of Caucus of Corruption: The Truth About The New Democratic Majority. He also blogs at Nevada News and Views. Follow Mark on Twitter.


27 Responses to “When Liberal Worlds Collide”

  1. joeboston says:

    Seriously Mark?
    Drug use is all a liberal’s fault?
    Extra-marital sex is only a liberal thing?
    Personal irresponsibility is all liberal?

    I don’t even know where to start on this post.

    At first I thought this was a joke, but I didn’t see any “Humor” tags on the post, so apparently you are serious about this.

    • rightlane says:

      No, it’s not just a liberal thing. However, it’s condoned and to a large degree defended on the left side of the isle.
      Remember the “it does not rise to the level of an impeachable offence” line? The right holds itself and is held by the left, threw the charge of hypocrisy, too much higher moral standard than the left is held to.

    • Amazona says:

      joe, I think you started by grossly misrepresenting every single thing Mark said, and then going on to a rather shrill, Emily Litella-type response to what you yourself inserted into the discussion.

      As several of us have noted, oh, I don’t know, maybe HALF A MILLION TIMES on this blog, all humans are prone to error, bad judgement, stupidity, corruption, etc. All. Take a moment to let that sink in, as evidently it hasn’t so far. All. Conservatives, liberals, Christians, Jews, atheists, monarchists, anarchists, arborists, whatever. All.

      This is precisely why society has to impose certain boundaries, rules, laws, principles, processes. This is precisely why various elements of civilized society have established codes of acceptable behavior.

      The point of the thread is to point out that when, for various reasons, a segment of society decides that these codes and standards are not necessary, or are even wrong, when these boundaries are eliminated or people are encouraged to ignore them, the weaknesses to which we are all vulnerable tend to expand and create problems.

      Example: Some people thought it was sooooo cruuuueeeel to have pregnant girls embarassed by out-of-wedlock pregnancies, so they worked on trying to alleviate the shame and embarassment of such a condition—-and within a couple of decades, teen and out of wedlock pregnancy had become socially acceptable and even, in some sub-cultures, desirable. The societal boundaries had helped control this phenomenon, and when they were removed, illegitimacy skyrocketed.

      Every time a societal boundary is removed or weakened, a corollary problem appears.
      That’s all.

  2. Amazona says:

    But as it has been, to a great degree, the fuzzy-minded who have bought into the great AGW hoax with such fervor, this may be a great way to get through to them,

    STOP USING DRUGS! SAVE THE PLANET!!

  3. js02 says:

    last decade (90s)they blamed the killng of the amazon forests and freon for opening up huge holes in the sky so the sun could get in a kill everyone from skin cancer…now its the drugies…so…whats next…poop from cattle?

    but in reality…progressive spirituality….aka…the resurgence of the mystery religions from the east…and indian payote religious ceremony…are actually responsible for some of the strongest inducements for drug use…its true…libtards need an excuse to do drugs…

    • Amazona says:

      js, they are already attacking cow farts, trying to establish legislation that would levy taxes on owners of cattle herds, a per-cow tax due to its methane expulsion. (No explanation of how this tax will keep the gas inside the cows.) They tried to attack cattle grazing, claiming it harmed the delicate grasslands, and after succeeding in removing cattle from some of these ares found that the land became less fertile, less productive, and was in fact severely damaged. It turns out that the excrement of grazing animals, combined with the aereation of the ground due to their hooves, kept the land open to absorption of water, and fertilized it, and the grazing stimulated forage growth.

      And now we learn that a favorite activity of the RRL is in fact causing more damage to THE PLANET than these other fake enemies of THE PLANET.

      I’m hoping for a report that bleating about unfair treatment of terrorists is actually more corrosive than normal exhalations, and therefore damaging the ozone layer. Now, THAT would be justice!

  4. sadieannmartin says:

    How exactly Mark did Liberals bring “us” rampant drug use??? Is this another one of those “One true Scot” things where you are expelled from the club as soon as you are caught doing something that many do??

    I think when conservatives figure out that extra-marital sex is not some big bad thing that will be a true revelation!

    You admit to living the life of a liberal, or at least trying to, for many decades and then returning to the Church, this seems to always happen to men and women when the blush of their youth has fully faded for those who were weak minded ideologically in the first place.

    • Amazona says:

      My goodness, little sadie has her claws sharp today, doesn’t she? Can someone please bring her a saucer of milk?

      Such an odd little creature, claiming some kind of superiority for something she has no control over, a mere chronological accident of timing that will, inexorably, change. While it has become apparent over the months of our acquaintance this is probably all she can possibly preen about, is her only claim to any type of superiority, it is still strange to see such smugness over such a trivial and fleeting characteristic.

      Tell me—did I read her right? Is she actually claiming that hedonism is an IDEOLOGY??? I might be making an assumption here, linking her use of the word ‘liberal’ to the sentence above its appearance, where she talks about extramarital sex,. It is such a poorly written little diatribe it is hard to tell what she is really getting at, other than indulging in a little spiteful spitting.

      However, let’s pretend to take her seriously for a moment, just for a change of pace.

      First there is the first mandatory straw man, which of course is feeble and transparent and easily dismissed. You know, that Liberal/rampant drug use thing. Too silly….. And the following sentence is even sillier.

      Then there is the additional goofiness of yet another straw man—that extramarital sex is a “big bad thing”, so she can sneer at it. Guess this is a thesaurus-free rant, eh, sadie? Note the failure to deny that promiscuous sex creates a lot of problems, just a defense of it, as far as I can tell. Or just a smirk at those who don’t defend it.

      And the very odd comment that growing out of a selfish and thoughtless phase of careless youth into a stage of responsiblity and awareness of consequences is proof of “weak minded ideology”.

      However, it could easily lead to a discussion of liberalism depending on and even representing weak minded ideology. That would be the clearest conclusion of any based on this disjointed little spurt of nasty.

    • neocon1 says:

      sadieforkface

      I think when conservatives figure out that extra-marital sex is not some big bad thing that will be a true revelation!

      Is that how you had your child?
      you and your site is a host of degradation of women, a foul putrid den of sin, inequity and pure filth, yet some how in your little peabrain you think it is sooooo cosmo.

      You are a sick perverted TROLL who thinks she works with a gumdrop computer and demons….sorry forker to us you are a total LOOOOOOSER!

    • jeremiah06 says:

      Sounds to me like you are loooonely, sadie.

      You wouldn’t happen to be that woman that they caught recently tied to jihad, would you? I think they call her “Jihad Jane” or something like that.

  5. Amazona says:

    Calm down, neo. sadie has defined herself and has taken the easy way out, deciding that all norms should be formed around the way she has decided to be rather than trying to meet the standards of ethics and morality that most of us find uplifting. Don’t count on her being a mother, as the math doesn’t add up, not unless she has been lying about her age. Or gave birth at 13. Don’t take a single word written by this persona as fact, and just ignore it.

    I know a young woman who was and probably still is a complete hedonist. She was promiscuous, used drugs and drank heavily, and had no boundaries. She got into a relationship with a young man when they both lived in L.A. and she was quite smitten with him, and then was devastated—and I mean cut off at the knees, wiped out, destroyed—when his family came to town and he did not take her to meet them, saying as nicely as he could that she was simply not the kind of girl you take home to meet your mother.

    I was amazed that she was amazed. I mean, it was pretty obvious to anyone who knew her that she was a party girl, but not one you would ever consider making a part of your life.

    I haven’t kept in touch with her so I don’t know what she did with her life–I saw her a couple of years ago but didn’t exactly ask if she was still screwing her way through SoCal—but I still remember the stunned disbelief when the reality of that one relationship hit home.

    sadie is creating her own reality, and it will probably always be as ugly as it is now. Not our problem…….

  6. neocon1 says:

    Amazona

    actually sadie is a persona of various forkers who Troll here.

    My problem is their anti Christian, porno filled, racist site is open on the net for 10 children to enter….they should be in prison the lot of them, may they meet up with larry flynt one day.

  7. Amazona says:

    neo, I know that sadie or whatever the name is today is degenerate and foul, is devoured from within by hatreds and emotional demons we can’t even imagine (and would not want to) and postures as the caring mother of a ten year old son while evidently not caring that he can not only see mommy naked on the net for the whole world to gawk at, she is the kind of person so desperate for attention that she has to do this to get it.

    I know that people like this don’t care what impact they have on children, who can gain access to their vile spewings of racism, porn, and filth.

    None of this is news. It’s just that screaming the same thing over and over again does no good and, quite frankly, kind of makes you look a little unhinged, too. And I think she gets off on getting you riled, and it is creepy to think that she is getting pleasure from seeing you freak out. I am surprised that you are so easily manipulated and eager to give her what she wants—whether “her” is a bitter lesbian, a gay man, or a porn freak.

    • jeremiah06 says:

      The FCC should block people like sadie from the Internet. Sadie is deranged. Kinda like Nancy Pelosi, totally debased from reality, can’t reason whatsoever. That’s a reprobate. A perfect description.

      • slccr says:

        You’re a big fan of the nanny state, aren’t you, jeremiah?

      • jeremiah06 says:

        when it comes to protecting women and children – yes, yes i am

        people like ms. martin furthers all kinds of damage to our society, namely in the form of destroying the family unit between man and wife…her attitude creates child predators/molesters and murderers

        she is a danger to society

      • jeremiah06 says:

        sadie reminds me of lady gaga, another deranged homosexual

  8. neocon1 says:

    Amazona

    Riled?
    unhinged?
    played?

    Nah,
    actually im the one playing….:)
    their game with them, I could give a whit about any of them and laugh about it.

    I like sticking my thumb in their eye while they think they are getting to me.

  9. jeremiah06 says:

    The real problem is they have turned on the unborn, in order to “save the planet.”

    If they want to abortion children to “save the planet” then why not start with themselves? Why don’t they just do themselves a favor and shoot themselves in the head and they would be doing the planet a favor. And let all the people who want to live and have children to go ahead and pursue their happiness.

    Did greenpeace liberals ever stop to think how much gas is produced by cats and dogs, horses, sheep, cattle, deer, buffalo, elk, moose, camels, cape buffalo, elephants, gazelles, brown bears, polar bears, black bears, wolves, raccoons, beavers. Every living thing expels some amount of gas, whether it be in small amounts like a squirrel, or in large volumes, like say a big belgian draft-horse.

    What gas humans or cows may produce is dwarfed by all the other creatures combined. Even the earth lets off farts, like in hot springs or geysers.

    • neocon1 says:

      jer

      I think the lib tards on this site expel more gas than a herd of zebras on the Serengeti plain.
      It is all hot air and methane, mixed with nonsense and 99% of it is produced between their ears and expelled through their mouths as B.S.

      • jeremiah06 says:

        I think the lib tards on this site expel more gas than a herd of zebras

        Yeah, and its deadly poison. It’s the kind that, whenever they hear or read it, they believe and act upon it, and spend eternity in hell.

  10. neocon1 says:

    Amazona

    I am surprised that you are so easily manipulated and eager to give her what she wants

    This should answer your question…….
    (really funny…not offensive) but answers a lot…LOL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuMZ73mT5zM&feature=browch

  11. thealientruth says:

    markollide:
    couldn’t resist orbitally observing all these cosmic comments
    about extramarital sex
    wow
    the interstellar irony
    because some spatial statistic somewhere shows
    that the majority of you who’ve posted
    have had extramarital sex…..