Liberal Imperialists Attempt to Impose Values on Third World Countries
Tags: Africa, gay rights, Hillary Clinton, Morality.
From Catholic Exchange:
If the average Kenyan knew that their favourite son, Barack Obama, had declared June the Lesbian-Gay-Bisexual-Transgender Pride Month, they would simply not believe it. Nor would they believe that in his proclamation for Fathers’ Day, he’d said that nurturing families comes in many forms, including being raised by two “fathers” – even if neither of them is the true father.
To top it all, Hillary Clinton recently told “LGBT members of the State Department family” that gay rights are human rights and human rights are gay and that her first concern for Africa is how LGBT persons are treated on the continent. “Our regional bureaus are working closely with our embassies on this issue. The Bureau of African Affairs has taken the lead by asking every embassy in Africa to report on the conditions of local LGBT communities. And I’m asking every regional bureau to make this issue a priority. ”
This was greeted with thunderous applause in Foggy Bottom. But I wonder if she would dare to make this announcement in Nairobi…
Thought we were supposed to respect “the other”? Ah, who am I kidding? We know darn well that “multi-culturalism” only applies to kowtowing to foreigners who threaten to behead people. If you’re not a violent Islamist, then your culture and values are something to be ground down by the global left. Anyone want to take bets of whether or not Hillary will say that advancing gay rights is a priority in Saudi Arabia?
The hypocrisy of the left is only matched by its dishonesty. Lecturing us on consumption, they fly first class to swank resorts. Lecturing us on respecting foreigners who refuse to integrate in to our society, they then turn about and demand that foreigners toe the liberal line.
My view: I think I’ll let the Africans work it out for themselves. You know, having a deep and abiding respect for the people of that continent who have suffered so much and yet retained strong families, sustain a rapidly growing Christian culture and remain cheerful in the face of adversity Americans have never seen.
In fact, I see a time when we here in America might learn a bit from the Africans. I look forward to the redemption of a promise made by a Kenyan priest to my parish – that they are so overflowing with seminarians that we will soon have our shortage of religious orders filled by enthusiastic Africans. And maybe a few of them will be able to spare the time to instruct Hillary Clinton in how to respect other cultures.
Mark Noonan is co-author (with Matt Margolis) of Caucus of Corruption: The Truth About The New Democratic Majority. He also blogs at Nevada News and Views. Follow Mark on Twitter.
80 Responses to “Liberal Imperialists Attempt to Impose Values on Third World Countries”
Caucus of Corruption
Completely and utterly wrong as usual. Of course we can respect other cultures, but only to a degree. In the case of gay rights i really dont care what countries allow gay marriage or civil unions, those simply lead to legal benefits, but any country which outlaws being gay needs to change its laws before it expects any kind of respect.
The same applies to countries which make it illegal to commit adultury, countries where its legal to to mutilate children, such laws need to be changed and should never ever be respected.
And where on earth do you get this idea that as long as your islamic you suddenly get respect? yeah, some idiots like to say sorry to muslims. If you look at any leading atheists like Dawkins or Hitchens (yes neo, as usual youre wrong, he doesnt just attack christians, try reading his book) you would see many people do infact attack muslims for their beliefs, their laws, and definitely do not respect them.
Now another point. As usual you have attempted to tell us all what “the left” thinks. You and amazona constantly attack left wing comments for “using a crystal ball”, take a look at your own post for a second. Do you think maybe you’re doing the same thing? Think about it, I promise it will only hurt the first time (hey, you might become an atheist ;)
perriblojo
(hey, you might become an atheist ;)
Only a FOOL says in his heart there is no God Psalm 14:1
“The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
since what may be known about God is plain to them … men are without excuse … their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools …
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
They exchanged the truth of God for a lie” (Romans 1:18-25).
If the average Kenyan knew that their favourite son, Barack Obama, had declared June the Lesbian-Gay-Bisexual-Transgender Pride Month, they would simply not believe it.
Maybe they should go to Amazon, buy and read this book………..
Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder?
http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obama-Larry-Sinclair-Cocaine/dp/0578013878
…countries where its legal to to mutilate children, such laws need to be changed and should never ever be respected. – pelirrojo
Are you calling for the end of late term abortion?
Actually yes I am.
Cluster,
No, he’s just advocating for the left, as usual…
Again making assuptions as to what I think, maybe you should have waited for my reply. Try questioning peoples opinions instead if telling them what they think. Yes, I do oppose late term abortions.
Mark
BINGO
the depraved ravings of another FORKER
and you are advocating for the right so whats your point?
razazz
and you are not even an American but a FOREIGN STOOGE……who are you advocating for?
the communist party and WHY?
pelrojo,
Dandy, but not at issue, here – what is at issue here is the left attempting to impose their values on Third World people.
Do try to pay attention and keep up.
OK since you 2 seem unable to read the reply to a question I will make my (i said my, not some talking point, nor group opinion) opinion quite clear. I am opposed to late term abortions, I am also opposed to circumcision, to both female and male, children.
I respect you for opposing that barbaric proceedure.
Now do you oppose the treatment that gay men and women recieve in various parts of the world? Do you believe at the very least it should be legal to be gay and to have a gay relationship?
perriblojo
Do you believe at the very least it should be legal to be gay and to have a gay relationship?
Have YOU been arrested yet?
That’s an entirely different subject that I will leave to the respective communities to decide, and don’t feel I should impose my opinion. Late term abortion is murder. Gay relationships is more of a cultural issue.
But if you feel that gay relationships should be legal, and you feel the need to impose that view, why not support pushing for democracies in other parts of the world? You know, the Bush doctrine.
I really do dislike this reply system, why does there seem to be a limit in each branch of the tree? ok sorry cluster I have to reply higher up since theres no reply button down below.
The reason I decided to post on here is that I was actually just having this discussion with someone 5 minutes earlier. I do infact support pushing for democracy. but not in quite the same way. Bush was warned by many on the left that iraq would become a mess. What happened? its a mess. on the other hand im at a loss as to what can be done right now. The government of iran has to go, along with every other islamic dictatorship. what justifies lashing a woman 99 times for adultury and then stoning her to death? This is the kind of thing that makes me say that no, I cannot respect a culture if it does not conform to the basic morality of this day and age.
Bush may have had good intentions in invading iraq, but it was clearly done wrong. A slower but perhaps better method might be to simply supply resistance groups. Before you can invade you need there to be resistance to the governent to start with, if there isnt, the people will simply fight for it. If there are already groups of nationals willing to fight, then supply them. supply them with intel, food, weapons, whatever it takes. This way there is no occupacion force in the country, and it becomes more of a revolution.
Just my 2 cents.
RE: I cannot respect a culture if it does not conform to the basic morality of this day and age.
The “basic morality” of this day and age is evil. Everything this day and age is against good, holy, wholesome, righteous and right in the eyes of Almighty God.
The family unit the world over is in disarray, chaos. Abortion has destroyed marriages, financial collapse has destroyed marriages, pornography has destroyed marriages, lust due in general as a result of pornography has destroyed marriages.
Atheism taught in our schools has devalued life with the thinking that “man came from apes,” or that “it’s acceptable to murder unborn children in the first stages of life because they are not fully grown or out of the womb yet” calling unborn babies “fetuses,” or “globs of cells” etc, etc…any number of evil names given innocent unborn children by atheists… this sort of thinking, unbelieving thinking that has undermined and is destroying the foundation of our culture and world.
Hatred – in this day and age, hatred is common the world over…Islamists as you have mentioned are treating women like second or third class citizens, worse than animals. This hatred is a result of the modern paganism that we see even here in America among those who hold communist and socialist beliefs, the belief that all praise is to be given man…but at the end of such a philosophy is the brutal reality of millions of people murdered, all because those in control defined them as of “less worth” than another based on ethnicity, race, or creed.
Atheism is evil. It wants to play God when it attains positions in leadership.
Those who become dictators do not realize what they are doing…they do not realize that every caterpillar in reality is a butterfly if it develops properly…just as any man, if taught and raised properly becomes a disciple of and for Jesus Christ. That if in leadership, will base the laws of his country on freedom…the freedom to prosper, the freedom to own property, the freedom to speak and share the good news with others, the freedom to raise a family under the sound of God’s Holy Word. The freedom to raise a family without burdensome taxes.
Man is therefore limited by Almighty God, Creator of everything. When in leadership. Just as he is limited on an individual basis if he strives to do God’s Word if he loves God. If he does not love God, then his life becomes swayed by every unsound doctrine out there.
So, I would encourage you to differentiate in what today’s morality is and what should and/or must really be the standard of morality of this day and age.
Point people to the Cross, and you won’t come away disappointed, my friend.
perriglojo
I am also opposed to circumcision,
UGH!!
who cares what you think moron?
And as usual moron youve taken it out of context. I said of children. are you able to read to the end of a sentance or do you need a 5 year old to help?
clairity
male circumcision improves cleanliness and can be beneficial.
female Cir…..is mutilation plain and simple.
perriblojo
send me the 5yo that talks for you forkface.
This is the last time I will reply to you. It seems you are a complete and utter moron. You havent actually attacked a position ive given once so far, and as far as i can see none of your posts have anything to do with the topic. you are a closet homosexual, you need to go get help, and I dont know, go to a bar and meet a nice guy.
perriblojo- forker.
You havent actually attacked a position ive given once so far, and as far as i can see none of your posts have anything to do with the topic. you are a closet homosexual,
1. the only “position” you have taken is hands on ankles….bent over.
2. GAY? closet homosexual? PROJECTION perrigay. it is YOU who are championing sodomy.
3. now crawl back into the den of filth and rot you crawled out of the daily pitchfork.while we fumigate this site from you and your demon minions.
I care
RE: I care
About deceiving people.
And that’s all you care about.
Conservative Imperialists Attempt to Impose Western Values on Third World Countries
The difference between the two? One is trying to secure human rights and one is trying to take them away.
um….kmg1, those people were evangelical christians, not conservative imperialists, and when they learned of the strict punishment imposed by the Ugandans, they quickly opposed it. They were there to share an opinion, nothing more. Do you think they should have that right?
So, cluster, they went to Uganda to preach of the evils of gays and how they are trying to recruit children. One even met with lawmakers to help with the bill outlawing gays. Then when it becomes public they scurry like rats trying to distance themselves from it only because of the death penalty. They have no problems whatsoever with outlawing gays, they just think killing them might be going a tad bit too far.
They went to preach the evils of the gay “lifestyle” and the potential harm to children. This is just another “unwashed masses” hysteria you’re going through – go to your happy place.
They went to preach their lies and to provide their input on outlawing gays. It just went a little too far for them when it became public.
kmg1 is a liar.
He needs some old-fashioned dentistry.
“The difference between the two? One is trying to secure human rights and one is trying to take them away.”
It’s funny how Mark Noonan nds up on the side of trying to take away rights, all the while blathering inanely about “freedom.” But hey, he’s just doing what the Catholic church tells him to do, and the hypocrisy of the Catholic church is only matched by its dishonesty (and its indefensibly disgusting policy of protecting pederasts).
KMG,
Let’s see – I want them to vote however they wish, you want them to manhandle in to law things they don’t want.
Which one of us comes off better in the exchange?
So, if they vote to imprison or even kill gays, that’s okay with you? I think I come off better in this exchange.
pelirrojo,
you can forget about having a proper discussion with Neo. He’s got 2 braincells (one is in a wheelchair and the other one refuses to push).
focus on Cluster. he might be misguided but hes willing to discuss.
of course I am misguided. Liberalism is the only true path, right? Believing in a strict adherence to the Constitution of the US, and wanting social issues to be states issues, is misguided I guess. Good to know.
no Cluster, liberalism is not the only true path because there is no objective true path. there are different political systems that all have their drawbacks and benefits and there are mixtures of different political systems. I just happen to find that a “liberal” approach (with a strong private sector) to governing is the best way forward, and you are welcome to disagree.
If you believe in a strong private sector, then you in no way could support Obama. He is without question the most anti private market President this country has ever had. Ever.
RE: there is no objective true path
How clever.
Yay for you. You scored one for the devil.
The truth is, there is truth. Jesus Christ is truth. He is the reality of the beginning and end of this present reality as we know it.
“Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.”
Eleanor Roosevelt
“The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt.”
Bertrand Russell
“see arguing with idiots pg 13-69.”
Neocon1
The only tools in Neo’s tool box are crude and uncreative insults. It is obvious that by being utterly incapable of reasoned debate based on facts, that Neo grandstands by way of put downs that would embarass a 5 yr old. If you think that proves how smart you are, it only shows how pathetically stupid you remain.
topless
attempting to reason with atheists and pervert’s is a fruitless endeavor.
Both are deceived by lying spirits and are representative of the darkness of evil.
Goodness and love come from God alone, God is light and evil is darkness. Both can not occupy the same place simultaneously.
So your straw man arguments of “marriage equality” are nothing but a smoke screen to hide the agenda and pathology of sodomy and your anti Christian bigotry.
I dont fall for it, I call it and you what you are LIARS and EVIL despicable people who are destined to the fires of hell…
topless
Hmmmmmmmm
seems you missed these my my how convenient!!
(foghorn leghorn voice)
I say I say can yo just feel the libtard LOOOOOVE!
“pelirrojo says:
July 12, 2010 at 7:39 am
. “you are a closet homosexual, you need to go get help, and I dont know, go to a bar and meet a nice guy.”
———————————————————————————–rasmus says:
July 12, 2010 at 8:11 am
Neo. He’s got 2 braincells (one is in a wheelchair and the other one refuses to push).
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slccr says:
July 12, 2010 at 10:44 am
This is hilarious coming from a birther/death paneler who relies solely upon screeching emotion in lieu of rationality.
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mephistopheles says:
July 12, 2010 at 9:59 am
The only tools in Neo’s tool box are crude and uncreative insults. , it only shows how pathetically stupid you remain.
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Cluster,
A strong private sector needs certain regulations in order not to self-destruct and to protect consumers. Companies only have one obligation which is to make money for their shareholders so companies cannot be trusted to always make the right long term decisions. All the ‘meddling’ with the private sector that I see the Obama administration doing is aimed at those two things; prevent another meltdown and protect consumers. They are also doing lots of things in order to stimulate growth especially when it comes to alternative energy. There is nothing wrong with that and its necessary after 8 years of Bush laissez-faire which brought the whole system to fall off a cliff in 08. You think Obama wants the government to ‘take over’ companies. They don’t, but with ex. GM it was necessary to do so for a short while in order to stabilize things.
I think you paint Obama out to be a hardcore socialist. This is silly Cluster. Granted, he is considerably left of Bush, but Bush was a neoconservative. I don’t see Obama being much more of a lefty than Clinton was. Don’t be so scared cluster. Obama is not out to hurt you or to bring down the US.
rasazz
Don’t be so scared cluster. Obama is not out to hurt you or to bring down the US.
GEE that is SOOOOOOOOOOOO assuring from some european commie posting on politics in America that he knows F/N nothing about!
Ras,
First of all, bankruptcy courts and the justice dept, are, for the most part, the only governmental regulations needed. Secondly, the oil industry is already the most heavily regulated industry ever, and then didn’t stop anything, did it? Regualtions are mainly feel good endeavours, that just add another incompetent agency on top of an already bloated government.
Also, who decides what the “right long term decisions” are? That is a really idiotic remark. Basically what you’re saying is the the “people” who run corporations are incapable of deciding what is in their own best interest.
Furthermore, Bush pumped more money into green energies than any other previous admin, including Clinton, so that’s another baseless accusation.
And I am hardly scared, but I am vigilant, and plan to see Obama thrown out from the white house in 2012
Red, you usually seem fairly well-intentioned, but you do tend to get very deeply sucked into the hyper-emotional propaganda of the rabidly radical Left, and let it cloud your judgment.
You also tend to confuse things.
When I talk about the “crystal ball” of the Left I refer, very specifically, to the times you assign a motive to an action. Mark referred to the actions themselves. If he had commented on the hypocrisy of preaching conservation and then flying around in luxury jets and then pronounced that “they do this because they feel disdain for average people” then he would be employing the crystal ball tactic. But if he merely states what they do, and you draw your own conclusions from their actions, that is something else.
The thing is, if you RRL get so wound up at us personally here, the solution is easy. You find a blog where you feel at home, comforatable, and where you can exchange Liberal sentiments with like-minded people.
“you do tend to get very deeply sucked into the hyper-emotional propaganda of the rabidly radical Left, and let it cloud your judgment.”
This is hilarious coming from a birther/death paneler who relies solely upon screeching emotion in lieu of rationality.
As usual, slacker has nothing to offer but insults and lies.
He seems quite content to wallow in the insanity of using what the simple-minded seem to find a devastating pejorative, the meaningless “birther”.
To this demogogue and intellectual lightweight, a “birther” is anyone smart enough to understand the inherent duality of the COLB that the rabidly radical Left has decided to redefine as a document with a single meaning and a single purpose.
If the silly word were to have any meaning at all, it would have to apply only to those who question the birthplace of Obama. But that is so boring, and offers so little fodder for the rabid such as slacker to chew on, that he has to expand the definition to include those who don’t question the assertion that Obama was born in Hawaii but those who comment on the fact that the duality of purpose of the COLB means that this assertion rests solely on the word of a single Hawaiian official.
Only an intellectual lightweight and rabidly radical hatemonger could sneer at those who understand that when a law is labeled as being written FOR “those born out of state” it will probably indicate that it can, at least, be used to provide birth documentation for those—–wait for it—-BORN OUT OF STATE.
Instead of admitting the obvious and then moving on to discuss how the state decided to make the document meet other criteria as well, the feeble-minded such as orrin and the vicious such as slacker choose to attack those who note the original meaning of the law and comment on the inevitable confusion following its use for other purposes.
The State of Hawaii had every right to decide that a law written specifically to provide documentation for those born out of state can also be used to provide documentation for others as well. But to carry on in such a crazed and vicious manner, attacking those who notice the multiple purposes of the document, instead of having the integrity to admit it and discuss it, is unique to slacker and his ilk.
And, in an equally bizarre twist of reason and language, someone who is pro-life is now a “deather”.
The RRL has always been quite successful in recruiting pathologically vicious and angry people and setting them on political opponents. It’s nothing more than an effort to distract by dismissing, demeaning, and throwing up verbal chaff to try to confuse the real issues.
When I do catch slacker’s posts before they disappear it is always clear that they are removed because they are nothing more than verbal sewage, barely coherent rants of irrational loathing and name-calling. But this is who he is—or at least who is supposed to be.
But thanks for opening the “birther” door again, giving me yet another chance to discuss the insanity and stupidity of those who find the word meaningful while explaining how it is possible to get a COLB while being born just about anywhere.
Ama,
in short, you’re a birther. stop trying to sugarcoat your stupid unreal and idiotic views. just own up to it. you are a birther.
idiot.
slacker
we will admit to the “birther” label, when you admit 0zer0 is a kenyan muslem commie.
until you are ready to STFU!!
neo,
you’re an idiot. you are to dumb to realize the guy has been going to CHURCH for 30 years.
you’re to dumb to realize that he was born in Hawaii.
you’re to dumb to realize that he is not even close to being a communist, instead, he is the President that this nation elected.
haha..stupid faker.
scuz
wrights “CHURCH” ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WTF
proof of Hawaiian birth…….REAL PROOF not some fake paper he got for the TWO MILLION DOLLARS so far spent to hide the truth.
his friendships, appointments, and books make you a liar and a useful idiot scuz
faker? $10K put up or STFU loser.
chirp chirp chirp, tweet tweet AMCA
Ha! You’re so easy, Ranty. All I have to do is mention the fact that you’re a birther, and you go on a screaming tirade of birther talking points before concluding, “I am NOT a birther!” Hilarious.
Actually, I wrote a calm and reasoned explanation of how a person can accept the claim that Obama was born in Hawaii and at the same time understand the duality of the document produced to prove this claim.
Well, how an objective and intelligent person can understand the law.
Slacker is the one with the spittle-flying strident hysteria, twisting my words in an impotent effort to hold on to what he mistakenly thinks is a point.
And, as usual, he has nothing to offer but vitriol and spite. Oh, and lies. He claims I eventually admitted to being a ‘birther’ when by any reasonable definition (if it is possible to apply a reasonable definition to a nonsensical word) what I said is the exact opposite.
But that’s slacker for you—-dumb as a box of hair, mean as a rattlesnake, and so vested in lying to support his positions that he lies even when proof that he is lying is just a couple of paragraphs away.
But he has dodged the issue again, thinking that if he reaches back into his tighty whities for enough ammo to hurl he can distract from the fact that he has yet again refused to address the original purpose of the Hawaiian law.
Oh, he has also managed to distract from the thread topic, which he also cannot address with any degree of rationality or intelligence. He’s not here for political discourse: He is here to spread his mental excrement. It’s always nice to see a goal accomplished.
“I wrote a calm and reasoned explanation”
You know, I bust Mark’s chops for using words he clearly doesn’t know the definitions of, but I shouldn’t neglect to point out that this is a widespread phenomenon on the lunatic fringe right–it almost seems like a requirement for being inside the wingnut bubble. For example, Ranty, you obviously don’t know what the words “calm” and “reasoned” mean. Poor ol’ girl. Maybe she’s just blinded with her rage at having the fact that she’s a birther pointed out to her, though.
Neo,
you’re a birther as well. It’s ok guy, just admit it.
and fyi, the certificate of live birth is the OFFICIAL State of Hawaii document. Which has been released. but surely you won’t let the facts get in the way of your idiotic world view.
idiot.
ps. you’re a fake, tell us which part of the armed forces you served in, when and where, and the time periods, until then, shut up faker.
scuzy
done that already, USMC,
Parris Island, Lejeune, Quantico, Pendleton, Okinawa,
Viet Nam 1966-1968
Khe Sanh, Dong Ha, Hue, Da Nang.
so what about the wager? S10K says im right and you are a LIAR.
and what have you ever done?
J off on a magazine and pop pimples homo.
scuz, no one has denied that the COLB is and what’s more always has been an OFFICIAL docment of the State of Hawaii. What are you squealing about?
There is no point in arguing with Neo. He is a lumbering neanderthal. His verbal skills are rudimentary at best and his vocabulary is even more limited. Sadly, he seems to be representative of what passes as “conservativism” on this blog. Hey neo! Has it ever occured to you if the president was actually not a citizen by birth that the Clinton campaign would have discovered that along time ago? Maybe you should get a hold of Orly Tatiz and say you have discovered more evidence.
topless
first you start out that there is no point arguing with me, then you present your “argument” to me……flimsy stupid and idiotic as it is.
LOL BI polar?
or just plain stupid?
liberalism is a mental disorder.
they shut down the brimstone daily so the animals are bored neo…mehpisto must be lost without that porn site so she figured she would drop in…eh?
Get this. Neo believes in spirits. (And not the kind you drink.) He probably thinks that they cause disease as well, that toads cause warts and if you wish for something sincerely enough it will come true.Like the tooth fairy.
topless
so do the forkers, talk to them about it.
RE: Neo believes in spirits.
Sure.
There is a good Spirit, and there are bad spirits.
The good Spirit is God’s Spirit called the ‘Holy Spirit’.
The bad kind of spirits are those that oppress people, and sometimes even possess people when they reject the good Spirit, the Holy Spirit.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA…man I almost fell out of my chair reading that!
simply hilarious!
laugh all ya want…but just because you are ignorant about the spiritual nature of life doesnt amount to a hill of beans…laughing is about the only thing that you have to hide behind
tell me something mephisto…did you spend more than say…5 seconds…thinking about what you posted…or did pain tell you what to put down here…or are you just pain hiding behind that name…no matter…you both have your head stuck solidly up your behinds…nothing but BS comes from either one of you…
this coming from a guy who believes casper the friendly ghost is real.
what’s next? you believe in alchemy? or maybe you believe in the god of sun, and water, and fire, and land?
maybe you believe in the toothfairy? or the magic garden of eden?
seriously, you can have your religion, but don’t for one second try and pass that crap onto others. your god sucks.
meph, is this—-
“Get this. Neo believes in spirits. (And not the kind you drink.) He probably thinks that they cause disease as well, that toads cause warts and if you wish for something sincerely enough it will come true.Like the tooth fairy.” —-
—the kind of dispassionate and intellectual political discourse you have been claiming to seek?
What do you call the inbetween spirits Jer? Non-commital? Imparshall? Ambivilent? Gad Zooks! What if THERE ARE NO SPIRITS?????? Then what? I could care less about your beliefs but I dispise your constant bible thumping. Your probably beleive that every time you masterbate, god kills a kitten.
hey we gotta nutter mental mdiget posting…typical ignorant flakebag without a clue about what it is talking about…totally qualified to be libtard trash!!
yup
another forker,
it is glaringly obvious how 0chimpy got elected.
They just domt know about the SHIITE sandwich that he has for them eat one day soon.
laugh all the way to hell you two…..those who laugh last laughs best.
Yuk it up for now. you have an eternity of screaming behind the chuckles.
:)
RE: What do you call the inbetween spirits Jer?
Oh, my apologies, I had forgotten that you don’t read. That the devil does your talking.
There are no “inbetween” spirits.
Only those of the bad spirits and the good Spirit.
The actions of the sinful nature and the Fruit of the Spirit can be found in the book of Galatians chapter 5.
Galatians 5:19-26
That acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchey; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
(For fits of rage – See: sz0102’s comment at 2:55 PM)
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law, Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
RE: What if THERE ARE NO SPIRITS??????
“No spirits”?
No sir, I’m afraid not. If we had no spirit, we couldn’t move. Through God’s Spirit He breathed the breath of life into us, and is what puts us into animation.
Satan wants to take away that breath of life, even more, the Spirit that drives our conscience.
RE: I could care less about your beliefs but I dispise your constant bible thumping.
Well, I’m sorry, but I still have a First amendment right to speak. And I will have that right until God decides to take me, or until you change the law saying that I, as a Christian am not allowed to share the gospel message.
Though, I will stand up for mine and others freedom to speak.
RE: Your probably beleive that every time you masterbate, god kills a kitten.
Only in your evil mind would I do and think such.
“That acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchey; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.” jere
It would appear that fmrmarine is doomed.
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It would appear that fmrmarine is doomed.
we will pass it along to fmr if he ever comes back….
but actually that verse much better fits you libtards than him.
it is YOU and your kind who promote hate, sodomy, murder of babies, pornography, lies, degradation of women, drugs, thievery and such…..hope you enjoy the fire stooge.
Ooooh, ANOTHER intellectual dispassionate political commentary from meph! Sure glad to see he is so dedicated to objective and rational discourse!
But FYI—-I doubt that you will find anyone who is “imparshall” as it is not a word.
I’m sure you sound equally stupid and incoherent when you speak, but your reckless disregard for the basics of the English language add a certain quirky insanity to your written word.
Just as your bogus claims of being turned off by vitriol are so transparent when that is all you have to offer.
Anyone else notice that the thread topic, about the Left trying to impose its social engineering on nations which have totally different cultural traditions, is way too scary for them to address?
They are in the awkward position of supporting sodomy while decrying what they have always called CONSERVATIVE imperialism. They had hissy fits when they could squeal that we were violating the customs and cultures of the Middle East by “imposing” democracy upon them, so now that their guys are shoving distasteful and cultrally offensive ideals down the throats of other nations they are in a bind. Because they LOOOOVE those distasteful and culturally offensive ideals.
So all they can do is try to start fights on totally unrelated subjects and distract from the thread.
it’s kind of a Lefty trademark, isn’t it?
That and a passion for being as nasty as humanly possible.