House Passes “Cut, Cap and Balance”

Calling Obama’s bluff:

Defying a veto threat, the Republican-controlled House voted Tuesday night to slice federal spending by $6 trillion and require a constitutional balanced budget amendment to be sent to the states in exchange for averting a threatened Aug. 2 government default.

The 234-190 vote marked the power of deeply conservative first-term Republicans, and it stood in contrast to rising support at the White House and in the Senate for a late stab at bipartisanship to solve the nation’s looming debt crisis…

A better description of that would be “The 234-190 vote shows that there are 234 common-sense votes in the House, and it stood in contrast to the desperate efforts of the Ruling Class to scam the American people out of another $2 trillion”.

This bill will now die in the Senate – or, if by some miracle it gets through there, will be veto’d by Obama.  I would have preferred a slightly different bill – you know, with my “trap the liberals” wealth tax in order to entirely get over on them about “taxing the rich” – but this is what needs to be done.  We have a plan, here it is – now, what is your alternative?  Tell us and, more importantly, tell the American people.  Obama and his Democrats and the rest of the Ruling Class will just have to come up with something – and it will either be acceptable to the 234 common-sense votes in the House, or will be a political albatross ’round Obama’s neck in 2012.  Either way, America comes out ahead.

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56 thoughts on “House Passes “Cut, Cap and Balance”

  1. casper

    Ronald Reagan’s entire presidency would’ve been unconstitutional under CC&B. Same for George W. Bush’s. Paul Ryan’s budget wouldn’t pass muster. So tell me why this would be a good thing.

  2. casper

    From Bruce Bartlett, former economic adviser to Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush:

    “This is quite possibly the stupidest constitutional amendment I think I have ever seen. It looks like it was drafted by a couple of interns on the back of a napkin … [It was] designed solely for the purpose of appealing to ignorant Tea Party types.”

  3. casper

    It’s been 200 days since the Republicans took power in the House, and yet there has been no discussion of a real jobs plan. Just wondering when it’s going to happen.

      1. Green Mountain Boy

        About as sad as spending 800 billion dollars on a so called stilus that would stop unemployment from going over 8%. Tell me casper, where did all those “shovel ready” jobs bams promised go ?

      2. casper

        Trying to change the subject? The Republicans took the house by promising jobs. Where are they?

      3. RetiredSpook

        The Republicans took the house by promising jobs. Where are they?

        Casper,

        It’s possible they’ve come to the realization that government can’t create jobs and can’t even create the atmosphere for economic expansion when the Democrat-controlled debating club half of Congress can’t even pass a budget in 2-1/2 years.

      4. Amazona

        Did Republicans actually “promise jobs” or did they just promise economic policies which will encourage job formation?

        Yes, we know that to a Lefty like Casper, the only way a nation can have more jobs is if the government creates them. So of course he is going to see a promise of more jobs as exactly the same thing as a promise that Uncle Sam is going to step in and MAKE those jobs.

        Just like the “stimulus package” did, right?

        Republicans have a slim majority in one house of Congress, are the minority in the other house, and have a hostile and surly opponent in the White House who has already stated his intention to, just maybe let them speak but to then ignore them, and to make them “ride in the back of the bus”. Every effort those Republicans have made to improve the economic climate of the nation by reining in the reckless spending of the Democrats, at the very least slowing down their death spiral into completely unsustainable debt, and establish some fiscal sanity has been fought, tooth and nail, by the Dems.

        And Cappy bleats that in spite of the obdurate resistance of the Dems to any effort to impose a rational approach to our nation’s budget, those Republicans have not yet magically pulled jobs out of the national hat.

        This is the kind of nonsense you get when you have ignorant Libs posturing as political commentators but only regurgitating half-understood Lefty Talking Head whines and indulging in deep melodramatic sighs of “Sad…”

    1. tiredoflibbs

      cappy, it has been over 700 days and the Democrats have not presented a budget addressing ANYTHING.

      obAMATEUR said “I will not rest until …..” insert fixing economy, increasing jobs, address the debt limit, etc. etc..

      How many vacations has he had since making those statements for the ignorant drones?

      1. Amazona

        Speaking of regurgitating Talking Head nonsense, here comes Sunny with another Bush whine.

        Tell you what, Sunny—-when Barry takes his staff to his private home for a few days and spends those days actually WORKING, we won’t pull a Lib on you and call it a vacation, OK?

        When he uses his own home as another White House, hosting foreign dignitaries, and as a base of operations from which to make official trips and visits, while putting in hours a day working with his staff on official business, then we we might think he is serious about his job.

        What real political commentary is there in just snapping back to the BDS position of using Bush as the central point of any argument?

        Why don’t you and Cappy actually offer up some constructive ideas about what you think SHOULD be done, instead of just being reactionary and negative?

    2. MontyBurns

      “Just wondering when it’s going to happen.”

      When they run out of stupid political stunts that only serve the purpose of keeping the base angry and agitated. In other words, not for a long time.

  4. Green Mountain Boy

    Bams kills our domestic oil industry putting thosads of americans with good paying jobs out of work. The gives Petrobus a two billion loan to drill in the gulf. Yeah thats a great jobs program. So is this one

    Whats wih this brazillian stuff? Somebody there got nekkid photos of bams and his boyfriend?

    1. casper

      Still trying to change the subject? The Republicans took the house by promising jobs. Where are they?

      1. Amazona

        GMB, to such as Cappy, who has never even worked in the private sector much less created a job himself, it is the job of government to “create” jobs. And house him, and feed him, and provide his health care, and no doubt to wipe his sorry behind.

        Only someone totally ignorant of how jobs are really created can bleat on and on about the alleged failure of “the Republicans”, in office about six and a half months, holding a slim majority in one house of Congress and being the minority in the other, trying to deal with Obama’s obstructionism, to “create jobs”.

        Notice that he offers no ideas, just whines and whimpers.

  5. casper

    GMB,
    “How about providing a specific. Which gop candidates promised jobs?”

    So you are admitting that the gop has nothing to improve the job climate?

    1. Amazona

      Wasn’t it just a couple of days ago that I pointed out the silly, transparent and dishonest Lefty tactic of starting a comment with “So….” and then going on to completely rephrase what was said?

      And here comes Casper, gallumping in to show us how a true Lefty tool tries to use this tactic.

      Casper, what do YOU think the GOP (over the strident objections and hysterical opposition of the Dems) ought to be doing to “improve the job climate”? Do you understand the impact on “the job climate” of out of control reckless spending, the looming threat of increased taxation on the Productive Class, the ballooning of the debt service on the debt already created, and/or the impact of the restrictive policies Barry and the Boyz have been imposing on so many areas of business?

      Take you time, this is an open book test. Tell us why these Democrat-created issues are not stifling job growth, or at least what the Republicans can do about them.

  6. Green Mountain Boy

    As far as the candidates in the 2010 elections i am familiar with , mostly TEA Party ones not a one ever promised anyone a job. It was about getting back to a constitutional form of government and the fact that we are Taxed Enough Already.

    I can find witch article or amendment in the constitution where it says it is the governments duty to create jobs. Please point me to it.

    1. Green Mountain Boy

      Sure its called cut, cap and balace havent you heard. Maybe once this happens the private sector will not be afraid of losing thier asses while bams taxes them into oblivion.

      1. casper

        Please list all the taxes Obama has added. Of course you should also list all of his tax reductions.

      2. Amazona

        No, you lazy twit, YOU tell US.

        Or are you back to your silly passive-aggressive mode of posting, where you toss in a little snot-nugget or whine and then sit back and challenge us to do your work for you ?

        If you don’t know what you are talking about, don’t post.
        If you don’t have an idea, don’t post.

        GMB, I don’t know if you were here back when Casper was announcing that if you believe in the Constitution as it is written, you really believe in slavery and that women should not be allowed to vote.

        This is the level of intellect we are dealing with here, as well as this passive-aggressive style. Yet Casper has never offered up a single idea, preferring instead to sit on the sidelines and snipe at those who do.

      3. MontyBurns

        You know, it’d be much easier to admit that you can’t than to be all passive-aggressive and bitchy, Amazona. Though on second thought, passive-aggressive and bitchy come so naturally to you that perhaps they are the easier route.

        Funny how conservatives so often shrink at simple challenges to defend their statements.

  7. casper

    GMB,
    It’s late and I’m going to bed, but I can hardly wait to get up tomorrow and read how the GOP has added millions (thousands, hundreds?) of jobs to our economy.

    1. Green Mountain Boy

      Whatever casper, Have a good night dreaming about taxing us evil conservatives to death.

      1. neocon1

        GMB

        catspuke is a total moron
        He loves to get into circular arguments, thinks he is a master debater while he is really a Fn loon ex hippy leftist posing as a “teacher”.
        Dont fall into his faux little trap just tell the idiot to SOD OFF.
        :)

  8. bardolf

    Nine Republicans opposed the bill, including Tea Party favorite and GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.). Bachmann said the bill “does not go far enough” and should have included provisions to defund health care reform.

    Ron Paul (Texas). Paul said he has never voted for a debt ceiling increase and never will. In addition, he took issue with Republicans for not including defense cuts in the mix of discretionary cuts.

    THAT is why Ron Paul has no chance. He wanted to include defense cuts as if the DOD is the largest part of discretionary spending.

    1. neocon1

      baldork

      “THAT is why Ron Paul has no chance.

      HUH?
      you are just now coming to that conclusion??????
      Bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha
      you probably think ralph nader is a serious contender.

      1. neocon1

        This bill will now die in the Senate – or, if by some miracle it gets through there, will be veto’d by Obama.

        It all is a BS smokescreen by the left to raise the deficit and taxed.
        tell the NO and let the chips fall where they may in their lap.

        marxist – Cloward-Piven strategy 101.

      2. bardolf

        Exactly

        The electorate is filled with looters taking from the trough, big sense of entitlement. They’ll explain why any cuts from a bloated budget will ruin the future and destroy the country. You know the looters with the family member who has one government check per month already but complains if he can’t double dip as well as in the past. The looters who think the government should pay for big screen TV’s in the waiting rooms while they wait for government health care that expanded as a political handout to their class and to which they contributed a small fraction.

  9. Cluster

    Casper,

    Please allow me to address your childish, ignorant little game of gotcha, may I? The GOP congress took office on 1/20/11, and has since been trying to pass a budget, which Pelosi, Reid and the democrats have failed to do in nearly 2 1/2 years. Now don’t you think a budget is a fundamental component to moving the nation forward? Do you think that employers are a little concerned with the uncertainty of having no budget, while listening to Obama and other democrats demonize them by saying they are not paying their fair share? Combine that with upcoming Obamacare mandates, possible Cap and Trade legislation, and probable tax increases, and you have a tremendous climate of uncertainty, all of which the GOP congress is trying to resolve.

    First things first sport, and we need to clean up Pelosi’s incompetence before moving forward. k?

    1. casper

      cluster,
      So your excuse is that the GOP can’t do anything about jobs because they are too busy? I guess multitasking is too much for them. One would think that both parties would be doing everything they could to get people working again.

      1. Cluster

        Cap,

        Hang with me here, I will type slowly. THE BUDGET needs to be in place before any other legislation can be voted on. The budget is the foundation of which further legislation is built upon and because the democrats have avoided their constitutional responsibility, and not submitted a budget for 2 1/2 years, this is the first piece of the puzzle that conservatives need to put into place to move the country forward.

        But I have noted that once again you blame conservatives for your problem. Typical.

  10. casper

    “First things first sport, and we need to clean up Pelosi’s incompetence before moving forward. k?”

    So how does passing a bill that has no way of becoming law move things forward?

      1. neocon1

        baldork

        “You know the looters with the family member who has one government check per month

        “LOOTERS” Like these? The bottom 50% pays less than 3% of all income taxes paid.

        OR
        Illegal trespassers? : illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion each year.

        tell all about it DRONE!!

    1. js

      its really simple stooge…show the american people who they have in office…give them legislation that can solve our economic issues…and let the liberals hand themselves…

      even simpler…give a stooge enough rope…and he will hang himself…

      should i draw you a picture…as a member of the mental midgets club…it might help ya…

  11. js

    funny…government cannot create prosperity…the only thing they can do is to get out of the way…and let the free market do…what it does best…

    this is in direct opposition to socialism, which leads to communism…which leads to failure…read your history books…

  12. casper

    Cluster July 20, 2011 at 1:47 pm #

    “Cap,

    Hang with me here, I will type slowly. THE BUDGET needs to be in place before any other legislation can be voted on.”

    And yet the House has managed to vote over 600 times.

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/112/house/1/votes/

    “But I have noted that once again you blame conservatives for your problem. Typical.”

    Actually, I blame both parties. Unemployment is our country’s biggest problem and both sides are sitting on their hands rather than do something.

    1. neocon1

      catspuke

      . Unemployment is our country’s biggest problem and both sides are sitting on their hands rather than do something.

      BS flag.
      the insane deficit and high taxes are one of the leading CAUSE of unemployment.
      OUR side is trying to get the S-P-E-N-D-I-N-G and ridiculous R-E-G-U-L-A-T-I-O-N under control.
      your side is LYING through their teeth, no one is sitting on their hands.

      You “teach” what?
      sign to mannequins in the school basement?
      I dont think you are even qualified for that.

    2. neocon1

      NO BUDGET in OVER 800 DAYS…….yet 1.5 TRILLION = ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED BILLION a YEAR *DEFICIT*

  13. Green Mountain Boy

    TEA Party CONSERVATISM is the jobs plan. Shrink government 50% accross the board, Close our borders. Instead of occupying these wothless little kerplakistans, go in destroy thier abilty to wage war and get the hell out, after making it deadly clear if they go back to what caused us to be there in the first, we will come back and put them further back into the stone age.

  14. Cluster

    Actually, I blame both parties – Cap

    Why? The democrats held all three branches of government the last two years, and two of the branches since 2007. Since 2009 they have not submitted one budget, not one, but increased the spending by over $1 trillion a year.

    Interesting that you include the GOP in that blame.

  15. RetiredSpook

    I heard the other day that the top 1% of U.S. taxpayers pays nearly as much in taxes as the bottom 95%. That sounded absurd to me, but I have not been able to find any credible information to discredit it. The top 1% pays just under 40% of the income taxes in this country, and the top 5% pays just under 60%, leaving 40% for the bottom 95%. And yet the Left says the wealthy are still not paying their fair share. So what’s fair? As much as the bottom 96%? 97%? 98%? Or as much as everyone else put together? And if we have that many eggs in one basket and they decide they don’t want to play the game anymore; then what? We could see Atlas Shrugged played out in real time. For those of us that are prepared for the worst, that actually could be sorta fun to watch.

    1. bardolf

      Well all federal taxes are not income taxes

      The top 1% pay

      Federal income taxes: 39.5 percent share
      Federal payroll taxes: 4.1 percent share
      Federal corporate taxes: 57.0 percent share
      Federal excise taxes: 4.7 percent share

      Total federal tax share for the top 1 percent: 28.1 percent

      GIven that the US budget has major expenses in social security, medicare and medicaid it seems reasonable to look at the whole tax picture.

  16. Green Mountain Boy

    Still looking in the constitution for the article/amendment that says anything about the governments duty to create jobs. Since we all know what the progressives think of the constitution could we just say the commerce clause?

  17. casper

    GMB,
    I didn’t say that it was the governments duty to create jobs, but it would be nice if it was at least trying. That might fit in with why the constitution was created to began with.

    “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

    1. Green Mountain Boy

      I still do not see “create a job” in there. Where is it ? When did creating jobs become the responsibility of the federal government.?

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