Boehner Takes Charge

If Obama and his Democrats simply won’t govern, then someone has to – from Politico:

House Speaker John Boehner hopes to have a framework for a debt-limit plan in place by Sunday afternoon to avoid roiling the Asian markets, he told colleagues on a Saturday conference call.

An immediate deal would raise the debt ceiling and cut spending, Boehner said, and there are still options on the table for more comprehensive deficit reduction of $3 trillion to $5 trillion, according to GOP sources on the call. He is also aiming for a framework in the form of Cut, Cap and Balance — the plan that has failed in the Senate, Obama has threatened to veto but House Republicans passed overwhelmingly…

The linked article reports that Boehner advised the President that, at the end of the day, Congress writes the laws and the President decides to sign or veto.  As Obama keeps messing around with negotiations – probably in hopes that the GOP would just get scared and go along with a debt increase without significant spending reform – there is really no need to bring him in to the discussion.  Work out a bill which can avoid any problems starting Monday – make it something which can pass the House and Senate regardless of what Reid or Obama might want…and then just leave it up to them.  Reid, as Majority Leader, could refuse to hold a vote…or Obama can veto the result.  In either case, it would be Democrats blocking the necessary action.

Remember what we’re up against in Obama and his Democrats:  people who’s only goal is to retain power for themselves, and that means keeping Big Government alive and ever growing.  But the time for that is past – we’re broke and we’ll default in a few years if we don’t start getting our house in order.  Fundamental reforms cannot be done while Obama has the ability to obstruct, but we can get something together which bridges the gap between now and January, 2013.  At that time it is hoped we’ll have a new President and a new Senate Majority Leader…perhaps even of a type which cares more about America than personal power.

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25 thoughts on “Boehner Takes Charge

  1. Retired Spook

    He is also aiming for a framework in the form of Cut, Cap and Balance — the plan that has failed in the Senate, Obama has threatened to veto but House Republicans passed overwhelmingly…

    Obama and Reid must be counting on the voting public having very short memories on this come a year from November. Currently public support for CC & B is around 65% and for a balanced budget amendment, even higher. Most of the media has been saying that the Dems have the GOP backed into a corner on this issue, but it seems to me that it’s the other way around.

    1. Sunny

      Spook,
      I believe that most Americans really do want a balanced budget, but how do they want to balance it? That is where things get fuzzy. Should it be balanced on the backs of the elderly, middle and lower class citizens or should it be balanced with a combination of cuts to “entitlement” programs and revenues? What is your take on this issue?

  2. Cluster

    CC&B did not fail in the Senate. Reid didn’t even allow it to be debated. Considering that all the democrats, and Obama do is criticize the plans put forth by the GOP – I was wondering what their plan included.

    Oh that’s right, they don’t have one.

    1. Retired Spook

      Geithner and Boehner were both on Fox New Sunday (separately, not together) this morning with Chris Wallace. Interesting contrast. Geithner was like watching a child trying to explain whey he didn’t/couldn’t/wouldn’t do something, and Boehner came across as the adult in the room. I about fell out of my chair laughing when Geithner claimed the administration has been working reeeeeeally hard for 6 months to get an agreement.

      1. Cluster

        And yet, liberals and others, lap that up. Obama has created this crisis by increasing the debt by 30% in just two years, and increasing the annual deficit by $1 trillion for as far as the eye can see, but it is now the GOP’s problem that we are at risk of default? That’s just insane, and I think the majority of voters have figured that out.

  3. bardolf

    “House Speaker John Boehner hopes to have a framework for a debt-limit plan in place by Sunday afternoon to avoid roiling the Asian markets, he told colleagues on a Saturday conference call. An immediate deal would raise the debt ceiling and cut spending.”

    Oh well we had one pretty good thread yesterday. I have this strong protect-the-future-US-future filter which raises several red flags upon reading the above.

    1. The first reason given for a deal is to avoid causing problems with the ASIAN MARKETS. –

    2. He is raising the debt ceiling so more debt can be piled on the future middle class.

    3. He is doing so in exchange for spending cuts aimed at the lower middle class and poor.

    Boehner “Hey Barry, if you let me sock it to the poor I’ll let you sock it to the middle class”
    Obama- “Sounds like a good deal to me, can we stop any COLA’s for retired servicemen those guys don’t know their place anymore.”
    Boehner “I don’t see why not, they understand ‘shared sacrifice’ snort. How are we coming on privatizing social security for the under 55 so they stick their money in the stock market?”
    Obama “Well, I’ll have to pretend I am against that until late in my presidency. You’ll know the signal that I’m still okay with the plan by my picking up a couple million from them for a few speeches”
    Boehner ” Should we make the rich cough up a few bucks just to show who’s in charge?” Obama “LOL, John you can almost pull that joke off these days. Give me a call next week and we can hit the links”.
    Boehner “Will do, sorry but I gotta go tell my base how childish you are Barry, not even worried about the Asian markets”,
    Obama “A man’s gotta do what a man needs to do.”

    1. Sue

      Well, Bardolf, it was Obama that was claiming that not having a deal was going to cause chaos with the markets on Monday.

      Which market opens first? Oh yeah, the Asian market.

    2. Retired Spook

      3. He is doing so in exchange for spending cuts aimed at the lower middle class and poor.

      Absolutely; we could save so much more money if we’d aim spending cuts at the upper and upper middle class. Oh, wait.

      Obama- “Sounds like a good deal to me, can we stop any COLA’s for retired servicemen those guys don’t know their place anymore.”

      Sorry, Barry already did that 2-1/2 years ago. My last COLA was January, 2009.

      Boehner ” Should we make the rich cough up a few bucks just to show who’s in charge?”

      Top 1% already pays more than the BOTTOM 95% Should we make it more than the bottom 96%, 97%, 98% or more than everyone else put together? How much more is FAIR? And who gets to decide what’s FAIR?

      1. Green Mountain Boy

        Spook; have you not learned yet that the libs/socialists/progressives are our betters? They will tell us how much of our own money we can keep and when we can keep it. We work for them not the other way around.
        Jeez you capitalist pigs just don’t get it. To each acording to thier abilities and to each according to thier needs.
        Well you capitalist pigs have the ability, the rest of them have the need.
        Pony up pigs….pay your fair share…and mine…and your neighbors…and especialy those who just don’t feel like it.

      2. Cluster

        And who gets to decide what’s FAIR?

        Rhetorical question right? I think we all know the answer to that. And of course it would be the elite liberals who are the self appointed arbiteurs of “fairness”. I think Christie Matthews in MSNBC considers himself to be a high official of the fairness committee.

      3. bardolf

        1. Maybe the big ticket items like the wars could be cut.
        2. The military accountants say that there was no inflation so you get no COLA. In 2012 they say there is inflation so if you get no COLA blame it on Boehner/Obama.
        3. Your last talking point excludes payroll taxes because the GOP has made a confusion of taxes/spending by mixing SS with everything else. I think Reagan started the rob Peter to pay Paul and now both are broke. politifact has debunked the Bachmann talking point if you’re interested.
        http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/18/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-says-top-1-percent-pay-40-percent/
        4. The electorate will see if those making 250K or those making 50-250K more should burden the bill Maybe you think the top 1% is being cheated, but it seems to me the voters will deem otherwise.

        5. WHAT about the debt ceiling? You’re in the TEA Party and the raising of the debt ceiling concern doesn’t trouble you?

        @GMB and Clueless

        When the austerity needed to pay down the burden comes the poor will have no wealth. You tell me what is FAIR with regards to paying off the debt. How much of the national debt do your kids own?

  4. libsrjerks

    Libs don’t give a rats ass about fairness; if they did, they’d go out and work for a living instead of expecting handouts from the rest of us. They hate the rich, unless they’re rich. Then they use the talking point “I don’t deserve to keep most of my money; I don’t need it.” But let someone try and take it from them.
    Most rich people deserve to be rich; they worked and took risks. They employed non-rich people. They PAID wages to others. What the hell more do you lib pukes want?

    1. bardolf

      Ronald Reagan’s 1976 presidential campaign called, they want their talking points back.

    2. Cluster

      Bill Maher called for shared sacrifice on global warming last night, but when asked if he would give up his cars, his tv show and his palatial home estate, he was curiously silent.

    3. Sunny

      Listen creep, (that would be you, libjerk) I work every workday at a job. I have NEVER asked for a handout from anyone. To make a broad statement as you did about “liberals” not working an paying their fair share is just another conservative talking point. Every “liberal” I know works or has worked up to their retirement. I guess from your reasoning no conservative (or anyone who votes Republican) has ever been on welfare, unemployment, food stamps, ask the government to pay for the prenatal care and birth of their babies or any other government “handout”. Maybe you would like to check the red states that always go Republican and see who lives off the US taxpayers. Then come back and tell us how just the liberals do not work and no not contribute to the US economy. Most “liberals” you are referring to have college degrees, advanced degrees and doctorates. They are the working people in the red states. We know how conservatives hate higher education and those damn “elites”. Check out the eastern blue states – who do you think makes the most money and pays the most taxes in those states. You might do a little research before you start spouting off about the lazy libs.

  5. Green Mountain Boy

    No Bardolf, just think about it for a moment. Play devils advocate. Think why someone else deseves my money. You are doing the taking so you tell me how much you are going to take.

  6. bardolf

    No GMB

    First the ‘someone else’ is not a person from Jupiter. The monies from taxes go to pay your salary when you were in the military, they go to people in your neighborhood who repair the streets, they go to Spook’s retirement … they go to everyone on Medicare or Medicaid …

    Second ‘I’ am not taking. A democratically elected government is passing laws to meet its obligations. Eliminating every social program you can imagine doesn’t put a dent in the budget of any consequence. Get rid of financial aid, welfare, food stamps, whatever and it still doesn’t compare to SS, medicare, DOD, …

    Third the taxes would be returned to levels under Clinton. That is when there was a balanced budget. It’s just ridiculous to have this thread tagged balanced budget when the GOP has no such plans. Again the debt ceiling is just a talking point thrown to the Tea Party. It gets raised if the ‘markets’ want it raised PERIOD.

    1. neocon1

      baldork

      do us a favor and re take business, and am nat govt, 101 again at the Jh college where you “teach”
      you are sounding stupider than catspuke (if that is possible)

      1. bardolf

        So Neoconehead doesn’t mind if the government cuts off his checks for social security and medicare. Force him back into looking for insurance on his own. After all how much of MY money does he deserve?

        He certainly didn’t contribute to payroll taxes during his lifetime because they don’t show up on the defanged Bachmann talking point. He does represent a nice GOP view of the world.

        If a company takes advantage of a rationed government handout (airports in this example) to put tax dollars into their pockets the average schmoe should-buy STOCK. Of course after the average schmoe buy stocks and the CEO’s hand themselves the profits Neoconehead will say to the average schmoe- become a CEO. NO corporate responsibility needed in gooper world.

    2. neocon1

      baldork

      talk about a scam…….

      Update: The chart above is from the Joint Economic Committe (based on 2006 IRS data), showing the percentages of federal personal income tax paid by different groups of taxpayers:

      The top 1% of taxpayers pay about 40% of all income taxes,

      the top 10% pay 71%, and

      the top 50% pay 97% of all taxes.

      The bottom 50% pays less than 3% of all income taxes paid.

      national sales tax……ALL = ALL = ALL ………PAY
      THEN lets talk.

  7. Sunny

    “What the hell more do you lib pukes want?” libjerk

    Maybe for conservaties to have a little respect for others? To behave as the Christians the purport to be? Maybe to behave as an adult and stop the name calling?

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