Why Liberals Hate the “Conscience Exemption”

From Life News:

A new study provides more good news for pro-life advocates, as it shows fewer doctors are willing to perform abortions than before — creating a situation where the lower availability of abortion may be helping to reduce abortions.

The new report, published today in the journal Obstetrics and Gynecology, finds 97 percent of physicians surveyed say they have encountered patients wanting an abortion while only 14 percent of doctors are willing to do an abortion. That’s lower than the 22 percent of doctors who said they would do an abortion in the last poll, from 2008…

In the main, no doctor who is worthy of the name would perform an elective abortion.  Doctors know better than most that the unborn child is a unique, human life…and anyone committed to healing and saving will have a very hard time getting around this concrete fact.

There has been, over the years, a continual drop in the number of doctors who are willing to perform an elective abortion, greatly cutting in to the availability of the inhuman procedure, even without legislative restrictions.  Because of this, the pro-abortion fanatics are determined to force doctors and other medical professionals to provide abortion and other anti-life medical procedures – these people fought hard to ensure that ObamaCare had no meaningful “conscience” clause for medical providers who feel that things like birth control and abortion are immoral…and the pro-aborts will keep at it.  And here’s the bad news – as long as Roe is recognized as the law of the land, they are in a strong position.

If abortion is a right – and if health care is a right – then no doctor can refuse to perform whatever medical procedure a patient orders.  That, right there, shows that asserting a right to an abortion is absurd – no human right can ever denigrate another human right…you do have a right to choose, but this includes the right to choose “no” when asked to participate in an abortion.  But this bit of common-sense doesn’t matter to the pro-aborts…they just want their anti-life agenda to become absolutely the law of the land, and they’ll use every tool they’ve got…including asinine judicial rulings such as Roe.  And if they have to forcibly conscript our doctors and nurses in to the abortion industry, they’ll do it in the name of a “right” to an abortion.

I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it – the issue of life is the most important issue facing us today.  Next to it, issues such as the debt, the economy, war and all the rest fade to insignificance.  Whether or not we survive as a people depends on what we do about life.  Look around the world today and what do you see?  A dying world.  All of the nations of the Earth are locked in a dance with death.  Only a few nations retain a robust birth rate…while some nations have already entered terminal population decline (meaning that unless there is a massive turn-around in the birth rate, they will die out, as nations, within a bit more than a century).

We here in the United States are barely increasing – and a lot of that increase is due to recent immigrants, who haven’t quite been as poisoned by the Culture of Death as native people.  But even the nations the immigrants come from are now rapidly falling in to death…our illegal immigrant problem from Mexico will shortly solve itself…believe it or not, the Culture of Death has so corrupted Mexico that Mexican women (once know for their fertility) are not having children.  Our source of cheap, imported labor is drying up at the source.

I can’t really explain the motivation of those on the side of death – certainly there is an element of despair in them (likely stemming from some species of non serviam coming from the Enemy), but I’m at a loss to fully explain why they want us to die.  The only thing I know for certain is we must fight and destroy the Culture of Death.  We must not say that Life and anti-life are equal and worthy of respect…the pro-abort position is an illegitimate abomination, which can only be adhered to out of rank ignorance, or simple wickedness.  All our policies must be geared towards encouraging men and women to marry and have children, and providing them with the economic and legal basis to sustain a decent household for the raising of children.  Anything which detracts from this must be hindered, all that advances it must be fostered.

Remember, then, why you are fighting for small government, low taxes, sensible regulations, strong morals, decent education and religious liberty…not for your own self, but for all of those here today, and for those who come after.  All our efforts are not for political victory or so we can make money, or bomb our enemies to smithereens…but just so Joe and Jane Average can get married, have kids and raise them in a decent society.  If you’re not fighting for that, then you’re not fighting for anything worthwhile.

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35 thoughts on “Why Liberals Hate the “Conscience Exemption”

  1. js

    those on the side of death are not capable of understanding what they are doing…remember the old saying…forgive them Lord, for the know not what they do….hits this dead on mark….

    the whole it in a nutshell…is they live life for themselves…selfish, unthinking acts by selfish, unthinking people…its easy for them to gloss over moral behavior…demanding the right to be immoral under the constitution…they have hardened thier hearts…and stiffened thier necks…because they dont want to feel the guilt that the truth demands….so they justify it away…legalese the behavior using imaginative individual “rights” to do whatever they want to do…

    those rights…guaranteed under the constitution…are within the boundries of moral behavior…unalienable rights…which do not include killing another human being…because the individual had sex…doesnt include killing another human being…because the individual wants to go to college…doesnt include killing another human behing…thier own child…for any reason whatsoever…as a matter of fact…natures law demands…that they protect that child with thier life…not take its life so thier imagined future is not affected…

  2. Green Mountain Boy

    “I can’t really explain the motivation of those on the side of death – certainly there is an element of despair in them”

    Mark, sure you can. If you are truly a committed catholic. Are you afraid of being tagged with a lable like “fringe or radical”? (not meant as slam on anyone, so don’t get your lederhosen all knotted up)

    Do you truly believe in the bible? Are you afraid to say lucifer’s influence is at work here.

    Embrace the fringe. Revel in it. Enjoy it. Once you acknowledge it, it is rather liberating.

    1. Mark Edward Noonan Post author

      GMB,

      I reference the Enemy…and he is at work here, as in all evil. But we Catholics are always wary of assigning such blame…better, at all events, that the people, themselves, turn from evil rather than pondering just who convinced them to go do it.

  3. Sunny

    “If abortion is a right – and if health care is a right – then no doctor can refuse to perform whatever medical procedure a patient orders. ”

    What an absurd statement. The patient can demand any medical procedure they want and a doctor has to comply? Truly absurd.

    1. Leonard L'Farte

      Sunny,

      You go to the trouble to cut and past a sentence from Mark’s post containing two qualifiers. Then you go on to make a statement of your own that completely ignores those two qualifiers. Can you explain your logic to me? Humor me; I’m new here.

      1. Cloudy

        “If abortion is a right – and if health care is a right – then no doctor can refuse to perform whatever medical procedure a patient orders. ”

        What an absurd statement. The patient has a right to any medical treatment then the patient has a right to any medical treatment? Truly absurd.

        There, I clerified it for you Leonard.

      2. Sunnier

        Leonard it is your fault that Sunny is stupid. I think that is all the explaining you need. She seems to think she is writing simple English but she is really writing simple minded English.

    2. Mark Edward Noonan Post author

      Sunny,

      It is your side which asserts a right to an abortion – a right, if it exists, which cannot be exercised without the participation of another person. I, on the other hand, assert that a human right can never be something other than the act of an individual…so, no right to an abortion, no right to health care. I believe in freedom…just what is it that you believe in?

      1. tiredoflibbs

        Mark, it wasn’t too long ago that the libs were up in arms that doctors were not prescribing the “abortion pill” due to moral conflicts.

        BTW, Sunny does not know what she believes. She just regurgitates the party line and the latest talking points.

      2. Bodie

        “Mark, it wasn’t too long ago that the libs were up in arms that doctors were not prescribing the “abortion pill” due to moral conflicts.”

        Geez, tired, you managed to squeeze a lot of wrongness into that sentence. Kudos. To start with the two most obvious, since I’m sure you’ll have trouble with them, it’s not an “abortion pill” despite the talking points you mindlessly parrot, and the issue was not doctors prescribing the pill (which they were doing), it was pharmacists refusing to do their jobs and fill the prescription because of their oh-so-delicate feelings. Funny, that–you defend people who want to get paid for refusing to do their job. Who knew you were such a fan of moochers?

      3. tiredoflibbs

        wow, jeffy, thanks for correcting me on that. Yes, it was pharmacists that were refusing to fill prescriptions for the abortion pill.

        Yes, it is an “abortion pill”. It is known as an abortifacient – a substance that can induce an abortion. These abortion pilss can terminate pregnancies up to 49 days in gestation (63 days in parts of Europe). Since you are a fan of wikipedia, check it out. (Strike One).

        No talking points there! (Strike TWO).

        So, you deny that liberals were up in arms that these pharmacists were not filling prescriptions on moral grounds??? Simple search proves you wrong again!!!! Strike THREE!!!!

        So, you now have struck out again. Why do you constantly embrass yourself with such dumbass statements?

      4. Sunny

        Mark, I too belive in Freedom. And under our Constitution (remember – that document that you constantly refer to that does deal with Freedom?) a woman can legally get an abortion. You believe you have the right to take that freedom away from women.

      5. Bodie

        Thanks for admitting I was right and you were wrong, tired. There’s a small glimmer of hope for you.

        However, your simpleminded dedication to the “abortion pill” talking point diminishes that glimmer, as does this baffling statement in which you decide that after correcting yourself, never mind, you’d rather go back to being wrong:

        “So, you deny that liberals were up in arms that these pharmacists were not filling prescriptions”

        No, I never denied that. Quite the opposite, I pointed out that this was the case, while your claim that “the libs were up in arms that doctors were not prescribing” was, you know, utterly incorrect. Was this lying or stupidity on your part, tired? I’m equally open to either explanation, but I’ll leave it for you to decide. Or hell, maybe it’s both lying and stupidity; you’ve exhibited no shortage of both.

        And I note that you cannot refute the fact that you are pro-moocher in this case. Hell, you can’t even give it your usual failure-filled effort. But considering how badly you’ve humiliated yourself (for the umpteenth time–is humiliation just your natural state of existence?), perhaps you’re just leaving well enough alone.

      6. tiredoflibbs

        Changing the argurment again there jeffy?

        Typical since you were proven wrong in the last one.

        You said that I “managed to squeeze a lot of wrongness into that sentence”. I only had ONE thing wrong in that sentence and proved you wrong in the rest.

        It is amazing that you think pharmacists are moochers for one exception out of hundreds of prescriptions they do fill. But again, you had to create a ficticious argument to appear to win in an oh so losing argument that you typically created.

        So sad.

      7. tiredoflibbs

        Whoops jeffy. Sorry to burst your bubble, but after doing some more research, there have been cases where doctors refuse to prescrible the abortion pill and/or birth control.

        So I was right all the way around and again you, a typical mindless drone were wrong.

        Oh well, life goes on.

      8. Bodie

        “You said that I “managed to squeeze a lot of wrongness into that sentence”. I only had ONE thing wrong in that sentence and proved you wrong in the rest.”

        Once again, I’m going to have to put limits on helping you with your reading comprehension, tired, so this is the last freebie. If you need more, I’m going to have to bill you, moocher.

        1. I said that there were a lot of wrong things in your statement but that I was only going to mention two of them, as more than that would completely overwhelm you (sadly, those two by themselves have overwhelmed you…I simply must stop giving you the benefit of the doubt)

        2. I proved you wrong on both counts.

        3. You admitted that I proved you wrong, then decided to change your mind and cling to your original (disproven) argument.

        4. Why do you think pharmacists should be paid for not doing their job? Is it an affinity you have for fellow moochers?

        5. You didn’t answer the question: Was your reversion to your original (disproven) argument stupidity, lying, or both stupidity and lying?

        Flail away, little guy. After all, you’ve already done your oh-so-predictable self-humiliation, so what’s a little more at this point?

      9. tiredoflibbs

        sorry jeffy.

        I proved you wrong on all counts. Only in your delusional little mind, can you believe otherwise.

        Game over, you lost. Thanks for playing.

      10. Bodie

        Can’t answer the questions, huh? Of course you can’t. You’re such a failure as-is (your pathetic showing in this incredibly one-sided debate being the latest example), and easy questions only make things worse for you.

        Well, on the bright side, at least you didn’t beg for more free reading comprehension help. Even a moocher like you can understand the limits, evidently. If it weren’t for small victories like that, you’d have none at all.

      11. tiredoflibbs

        i did answer your unrelated question jeffy. Your failure at mastering the basics of reading comprehension prevents you from realizing it.

        But do keep altering your pitiful arguments. It just gives me more chances at bitch-slapping you.

        Come on, secretly you must love the abuse.

      12. Bodie

        I don’t really love abusing you, tired. I mean, it’s fun for a bit, sure, but your massive intellectual shortcomings (hey, have you figured out the meaning of the word “everything” yet?) and the fact that you have the emotional and cognitive maturity of somebody whose age only recently hit double digits (and the writing style to match) ends up making me feel a bit guilty for slapping you silly as I do every time. You’re just such a failure and so unable to not fail that completely destroying you quickly turns from “hahaha, this is fun!” to “you shouldn’t pick on the handicapped.”

      13. tiredoflibbs

        really jeffy, the game is over, you lost, the fans have gone home….

        Why are you still on the field? Here is a hint: You have proved nothing – you can’t expect to win when you have no game strategy. Your little irrelevant and inaccurate mental droppings won’t cut it.

        Again, you must love being on the receiving end of any and all kinds of abuse.

        You keep making assinine statements then change your argument after being so easily bitch-slapped.

        Seek professional help.

      14. Sunnier

        Under our Constitutuion (remember – that document that you hate that does deal with Freedom) there is the right to practice religion without interference from the government, but people who have religious beliefs against abortion are supposed to be forced to provide them or prescribe pills that cause them. Make up your mind, don’t drag in the constitution when you think you can use it to defend your feeling that it is ok to kill babies. You just posted a claim that God created all humans as equal but you sure seem happy to deny some of those “equal” humans even the right to live. Geuss YOUR constitution lets YOU pick and choose who gets to be equal.

      15. Bodie

        OK, we’ve hit the “you shouldn’t pick on the handicapped” point in this thread. I’m not sorry about stomping the shit out of you so effortlessly, tired, but I figure I should let you go lick your wounds now. And hopefully you will also use that time to do some of that remedial learning you need to do. I hope that sometime soon, you will have learned what the word “everything” means, for example.

        Poor guy. You’re just such an unending string of failure. It’s quite sad.

      16. tiredoflibbs

        “I’m not sorry about stomping the shit out of you so effortlessly, tired, but I figure I should let you go lick your wounds now.”

        Again, with the delusions, jeffy???

        You have proved nothing. I have proved everything that I said was accurate.

        Go home, jeffy. The game is over. No one is interested in seeing the replay of you getting bitch-slapped again. “Brady Bunch” reruns would be more interesting than seeing your complete humiliation.

        Your delusions do make good comedy though.

    1. thomasg0102

      green,

      do you think WND has an “agenda” like you accuse snopes and others of having?

      If so, does that make their article more or less trustworthy when it comes to issues of politics? Or even with regards to social issues?

      1. M.Q. Duck

        So you agree then. Pedophilia should be removed from the physche disorders list? That figures, coming from a muslim.

      2. thomasg0102

        oooh. Looks like Duck is another retread former conservative poster who can’t handle the heat.

        anywho, WND is a bigoted and biased site, nothing on that site is worth its weight in crap.

        good try though.

    2. js

      old…psychiatrists that took over the APA removed homosexuality from the mental illness list…without any solid factual scientific basis…

      whattayawant…a bozo button..???…

  4. tiredoflibbs

    jeffy: “Geez, tired, you managed to squeeze a lot of wrongness into that sentence. Kudos. To start with the two most obvious, since I’m sure you’ll have trouble with them, it’s not an “abortion pill” despite the talking points you mindlessly parrot, and the issue was not doctors prescribing the pill (which they were doing)”

    1) Pharmacists AND DOCTORS (later research proved me correct) are refusing to fill and prescribe the ABORTION PILL (ie .RU-486) and “the pill” commonly used for oral contraceptive.

    2) The ABORTION PILL IS AN ABORTION PILL. I proved that.

    Too bad you can’t read and continue to make a fool of yourself. Aren’t you tired from being bitch-slapped at every turn?

    Game over, you lost. Thanks for playing.

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