The Lynching Continues-Racism in The Media

Herman Cain was featured on a Holly Bailey hit piece the other day about the video in which Cain pokes fun regarding Anita Hill.

Herman Cain is defending himself from sexual harassment allegations, but that didn’t stop him from joking about Anita Hill, the college professor who made similar allegations against Clarence Thomas during his Supreme Court nomination hearings 20 years ago.

A Fox News camera captured Cain laughing about Hill during a campaign stop in Kalamazoo, Mich., Thursday, when a supporter brought up the professor’s name.

“You hear the latest news today? Anita Hill is going to come …” a man told Cain, the conclusion of his statement muffled by the crowd.

“Is she going to endorse me?” Cain joked, as he and the crowd laughed heartily.

Of course,

Cain insisted Friday he wasn’t trying to insult Hill.

“We walked into this room and … one of my supporters said, ‘Anita Hill was trying to contact you’ and my response was, ‘Is she going to endorse me?'” Cain told New York Post columnist Fred Dicker, per Politico. “He said it in a humorous way. I gave a humorous response.”

Even if Cain was trying to insult Anita Hill, the whole Anita Hill-Clarence Thomas thing was a joke to begin with-the first of many attempts to lynch powerful black people who dared strayed away from the white limousine liberal massas‘ plantation. Again… unproven allegations meant to lynch another –gasp!– conservative–gasp gasp– BLACK MAN. Yep.. no underlying racism, there…

But why am I particularly calling out Bailey’s piece as yet another media lynching of Cain?

Look at the accompanying picture they decided to post to go along with the story:

Will you take a look at that.. Herman Cain (with his wide-brimmed fedora) posing with two women, who just happen to be attractive..maybe even a little ghetto… My but if that doesn’t fit the stereotype of a black pimp, eh? No agenda on the part of photographers there, I mean, given that he probably posed for pictures with countless others that day.  No direct linkage of the photo with the story.  No thought as to the possibility that they could have posted a solo picture of Cain.  But again-no agenda there on the part of Holly Bailey or Yahoo News– nothing to see here–move along, now.

White Limousine Liberal massas and their charges in the media have often utilized racist, stereotypical images as a means of attaching an un-written narrative of dullard, Uncle-Tom-ish or downright gangsta personae to their other-than-white objects of conservative disdain.

Lest we forget…

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Or this one of former RNC Chair Michael Steele

Or the ubiquitous…

There is one thing of which I am now more convinced than ever– liberals are absolute masters at projection, and these examples literally scream proof of that assertion.  Whenever disagreement with their ideas rears its ugly head, one can be sure that liberals will reflexively spit out a veritable machine-gun patter of epithets, which will inevitably contain the word, “RACIST;” at which point one can be assured that they are not, in fact, looking out a window, but rather in a mirror.

 

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154 thoughts on “The Lynching Continues-Racism in The Media

  1. Jack in Chicago

    Umm…do me a favor. Go to your search engine and enter “Obama” and “n****r” and tell me what you see. Look at the images. Read the right-wing blogs. THEN talk to me about racism and bias on the left.

    What a joke.

    1. dvindice

      Ahhh the “Everyone else is doing it so it is ok if we do” excuse.
      (granted the everyone in this case is the most extreme 0.1% of the fringe right but hey, if the RRL can find one bad example then it justifies EVERYTHING they do that is just as bad)

    2. Amazona

      Ummm..Jack, how many of these references are in prominent Right wing publications? Sure, any side will have some creeps and loons. I think the OWS crowd has shown that. But we have seen Leftist racism coming from the top of the movement, from its brightest stars, from its spokespeople.

      As for your claim of “right-wing blogs” being racist, I guess I have to take your word for it. I haven’t seen it and if I did I would want to know what, exactly, makes it a “right-wing blog”.

      I know what my fellow conservatives say and do and I believe these represent how they feel.

      You Lefties are so funny. You claimed that certain identified people, such as Bernadine Dorhn Ayers and Jeremiah Wright, did not “represent” the Left, in spite of their public associations with and support for Leftist people and causes, yet you are quick to link anonymous sources of nastiness with the Right with nothing to back up your connection but a claim or two.

    3. singlestack

      Typing a racist phrase into a search engine takes you to *gasp* racist websites. Who’d a thought it possible!
      I do read right wing blogs. Any expressions of racism are quickly condemned and ridiculed and the racists are often banned.
      I also read left wing blogs and they are something else altogether. They are little more than an endless stream of racism, antisemitism, lies, hate, vitriol and calls to violence against anyone they disagree with.
      I call your race card and throw it right back in your face.

    4. raging bull

      umm..do me a favor jack. go to your search engin and enter “herman cain” and “n****r” and tell me what you see. then go to “sarah palin” and “c*nt” and tell me what you see. then go to “michelle bachman” and “c*nt” and tell me what you see. look at the images. read the left-wing blogs. THEN talk to me about racism…and sexism and bias on the right.

      what a joke…you are!

      1. Sunny

        Don’t you think it is time for all of this to stop? Americans can be very juvenile in their behavior. And to be honest, there are racists, bigots and sexists in both parties. It is just time to stop saying “but look what your side wrote/said/did” and vow not to accept that kind of behavior – call out those who continue to behave in such a disgusting manner.

    5. vokoyo

      Japan arrest of a Chinese fishing captain within the 12-nautical-mile territorial sea surrounding the Diaoyu Islands has again inflamed relations between the two great East Asian powers.

      China claim to the Diaoyu Islands is based on the “discovery” of unclaimed territory and derives from a range of Chinese governmental contacts and references going back to 1372.

      Japan claim is also based on the “discovery” of supposedly unclaimed territory, despite the fact that official Japanese documents, several of which were unearthed by Taiwan scholar Han-yi Shaw, demonstrate that the Japanese government was well aware of China historic claim when it began to take an interest in the islets in 1885.

      During the subsequent decade, contrary to the assertions now made by Japan, its officials not only failed to complete surveys of the islets necessary to confirm their alleged unclaimed status, but also recognised that the matter “would need to involve negotiations with Qing China”.

      To avoid China suspicion, Japan chose to conceal its intention to occupy the islets “until a more appropriate time”. That time came in January 1895, when Japan by then on its way to defeating China in their 1894 war, adopted a Cabinet decision that the islets were Japanese territory. Yet even that Cabinet decision was not made public until after the second world war.

      Moreover, if the US were to become an impartial mediator, it would have to note that Japan claim to sovereignty over the islets is based on a distorted version of late 19th century history that does not pass the international smell test.

      It is time for Japan to reassess its views on the international law of the sea. Those of its views that are plainly irresponsible only discredit others that deserve serious consideration.

      Perhaps most insulting to the world community is its claim that the rock called Okinotorishima that constitutes Japan southernmost “land”, a reef system with land at high tide no larger than a king-sized bed, is entitled to an EEZ and continental shelf.

  2. greg-o

    Jack In Chicago,

    I took your “favor” and searched for those terms. The results yielded numerous racist bloggers, but nothing identifiably “right-wing,” unless you’re working from the false presumption that “racist = right-wing.” As an “ethnic minority” myself, I have found racism emanating mostly from the left end of the political spectrum where skin pigment is the first, and usually only thing they see.

    1. tiredoflibbs

      Of course, greg-o. The leftist drones all believe that racists and Republicans are one in the same. They also believe that all the racists that were identified as Democrats have left the party and joined the GOP.

      They will mindlessly regurgitate those talking points as you have seen.

      1. dvindice

        Simple really… (as far at the RRL sees it)
        If a Liberal says it, it it free speech.
        If a Conservitive says it, it is racist.

        A lone extremist on the right will be used as an example of the entire right.

        A majority of liberals is just a fluke.

  3. Cory

    Really, your point is undermined by the fact that right there on the tag cloud on the right, one of the biggest tags is “Barack Hussein Obama” and posters here repeatedly refer to the President of the United States as things like “ochimpy” or claim that he is a secret Muslim. Most of that is even part of mainstream conservative media’s rhetoric, and it’s built specifically to capitalize on people’s bigotry.

    1. tiredoflibbs

      So cory, tagging Barrak Hussein Obama is racist? Really!?!

      “posters here repeatedly refer to the President of the United States as things like “ochimpy” or claim that he is a secret Muslim.”

      Those are racist also? Really? O-chimpy is used by one or two posters and that is in direct reference of calling Bush the chimp from “Bedtime for Bonzo”. A “secret muslim” is also racist? Really? Get real.

      “Most of that is even part of mainstream conservative media’s rhetoric, and it’s built specifically to capitalize on people’s bigotry.”

      Proof? Once shred of evidence that this is “mainstream conservative rhetoric”….

      You are another one of those drones who believe if you criticize the pResidents policies it is because he is black or making reference to how skinny he is that is another “code word”.

      All of this “racist” accusations by the left was predicted after the election and before the man took office and sadly it has come true. The left has nothing to offer or legitimately respond to but their tired old tactics – one of them is the race card.

      But notice cory, it does not work both ways. Criticisms against obAMATEUR, that are termed racist, are used against Cain by the very same party and media that declares the first scenarios and no one on the left criticizes them for it where they would not hesitate for the obAMATEUR. You know that is termed a “double standard” and the libs and their drones are famous for that.

      Proudly count yourself among them.

      1. cory

        No double standard required. I don’t use racist terminology. Again, you guys are trying to hold a nebulous group of liberals all accountable for any single person’s behavior, while I am trying to hold you accountable for your own words.

        And coming up with an excuse to use a racially charged term with reference to the President does not make the term less racially charged.

      2. tiredoflibbs

        wow cory, why do you liberal drones have such a problem with reading comprehension?

        You have proven nothing. You deny a double standard among the media, the liberal politicians and their useful idiot drones.

        What is more hysterical is this little gem: “Again, you guys are trying to hold a nebulous group of liberals all accountable for any single person’s behavior, while I am trying to hold you accountable for your own words.”

        And, as usual, you don’t see the irony in your statement! Stop projecting your behavior on others there cory.

        Racially charged word? Only to ultra-sensitive liberals who can’t stand there own words and descriptions thrown back at them. The CHIMP term was used on Bush to describe his intelligence level – the same can be used for obAMATEUR, but of course, you libs use any opportunity to make a RACIAL!

        Take responsibility for your party’s actions and tactics cory. Stop whining when your tactics (they are yours since you copy their behavior as well) are thrown back at you.

      3. cory

        “So cory, tagging Barrak Hussein Obama is racist? Really!?!”

        Given that the President doesn’t seem to use his own middle name frequently, the only possible explanation for conservatives’ incredible interest in it is that they see its potential for capitalizing on the potential bigotry that the name could incite. Unless you guys want to explain to me what other good reason you use Obama’s middle name constantly but half of you probably can’t tell me Clinton’s middle name without looking it up?

        “Those are racist also? Really? O-chimpy is used by one or two posters and that is in direct reference of calling Bush the chimp from ‘Bedtime for Bonzo’. A ‘secret muslim” is also racist? Really? Get real.'”

        Again, coming up with a plausible excuse to use deliberately racist terminology make it not racist. And the whole secret Muslim thing isn’t racist as such, but it does go towards demonstrating general bigotry-baiting tendencies.

        “Proof? Once shred of evidence that this is ‘mainstream conservative rhetoric’….”

        I’d point to the studies neocon1 posted below. There has been a deliberate campaign to brand Obama as a secretly practicing Muslim outsider. Why else do you think that so many people believe things that are patently false?

        “You are another one of those drones who believe if you criticize the pResidents policies it is because he is black or making reference to how skinny he is that is another “code word”.”

        No, there are plenty of people even within this blog that have criticized the President without bringing up race at all. I’ve never claimed anything about whether their motivations are racist.

        “Take responsibility for your party’s actions and tactics cory.”

        I am not a member of the Democratic party.

      4. Captain Obvious

        Don’t be ridicules; we all remember when he said, “I William Jefferson Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky”

        Oops.

      5. cory

        “Don’t be ridicules; we all remember when he said, “I William Jefferson Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky”

        Oops.”

        I’m not sure what point you are trying to make by misquoting Bill Clinton.

      6. tiredoflibbs

        “I am not a member of the Democratic party.”

        Yeah right. You recite and regurgitate their dumbed down talking points to the letter.

        obAMATEUR used his middle name as often as possible until it was clear that is was a political liabilty. Use of his middle name as a form of racism is a dumbed down liberal talking point.

        His ties with Islam (even though he tried to hide it) was first brought out by Hillary Clinton and not the “mainstream right wing media”.

        “ochimpy” is racist if used to refer to his intelligence and not his race, but is not racist when used against Bush – again this is a dumbed down liberal talking point.

        The left has so distorted the term “racism” that it has lost all meaning. Racism is now used to describe anything the left does not like – including criticizing obAMATEUR’s policies.

        The double standard exists and the treatment of Cain by the left mainstream media, academia and the politicians is proof. And these would be the first individuals to blast anyone who dared criticized obAMATEUR and his pathetic policies.

        Cory, you continue to claim, for example that tagging Hussein on this thread “not racism per se” but then again offer it up as an example of racism. You also offered up “ochimpy” as being widely used by this entire blog and that of the whole right wing mainstream media, but then whine when we hold the entire Democrat party and the media for the actions of a large group of them for their treatment of Cain.

        You again contradict yourself. You are in no position of authority to determine what is racist and what isn’t since you regurgitate the party line so well – and you expect us to believe that you are not a member. What a joke.

      7. cory

        “Yeah right. You recite and regurgitate their dumbed down talking points to the letter.”

        You can’t go 3 posts without using the word “regurgitate”, which I find highly ironic. You think whatever you want, but the Democratic Party is mostly trash, just trash that happens to be a little less appalling as a general rule than the Republicans. I hold my nose and vote when elections roll around, but I have no particular loyalty and have expressed repeatedly on this blog that I would love something like instant runoff elections that would let me vote for a third party (is that a Democratic Party talking point?)

        “obAMATEUR used his middle name as often as possible until it was clear that is was a political liabilty. Use of his middle name as a form of racism is a dumbed down liberal talking point.”

        He doesn’t do it now. I’m still waiting for an explanation as to why you guys do except to score bigotry points. Actually, I’ll be honest here, I’m really not, because you are never going to give me one.

        “The left has so distorted the term “racism” that it has lost all meaning. Racism is now used to describe anything the left does not like – including criticizing obAMATEUR’s policies.””

        Please quote where I’ve ever claimed that disagreeing with Obama’s policies is racist.

        “The double standard exists and the treatment of Cain by the left mainstream media, academia and the politicians is proof. And these would be the first individuals to blast anyone who dared criticized obAMATEUR and his pathetic policies.”

        I haven’t really seen the treatment of Cain that you guys keep talking about. Certainly places like CNN have reported on the sexual allegations, but I haven’t seen race play into it at all. Unless the random blog post with a picture from last Thursday cited in here counts as “Mainstream”, but that’s a pretty low metric which I’m sure includes a bunch of “media” sources that aren’t getting counted on your scoreboard. I also don’t pay a bunch of attention to a lot of the more liberal news sources, so sure, I could be wrong. I’ll go ahead and get on board and agree that they are doing something wrong when you provide a citation.

        “You also offered up “ochimpy” as being widely used by this entire blog and that of the whole right wing mainstream media, but then whine when we hold the entire Democrat party and the media for the actions of a large group of them for their treatment of Cain.”

        No, ochimpy is too direct even for the racist subtext of conservative talk radio.

    2. neocon1

      corky

      a Seeeeecret muzzi??

      Growing Number of Americans Say Obama is a Muslim
      Religion, Politics and the President

      August 19, 2010

      A substantial and growing number of Americans say that Barack Obama is a Muslim, while the proportion saying he is a Christian has declined. More than a year and a half into his presidency, a plurality of the public says they do not know what religion Obama follows.

      A new national survey by the Pew Research Center finds that nearly one-in-five Americans (18%) now say Obama is a Muslim, up from 11% in March 2009. Only about one-third of adults (34%) say Obama is a Christian, down sharply from 48% in 2009. Fully 43% say they do not know what Obama’s religion is. The survey was completed in early August, before Obama’s recent comments about the proposed construction of a mosque near the site of the former World Trade Center.

      not so “secret” if you ask Americans.

    3. Amazona

      He’s not a “secret Muslim” you idiot.

      According to the internal laws of Islam, which we are instructed to respect if not revere, it’s a “once a Muslim always a Muslim” edict.

      Obama was a Muslim. He was officially and legally identified as such.

      This means that even if he, in his heart, no longer considers himself a Muslim, no matter how deep his conviction to any other religion might be, or for what reason (such as his attraction to a bastardized kinda-Christianity based on excusing racism) as far as Islam is concerned he is still a Muslim.

      An apostate Muslim, but a Muslim.

      Why is it so hard for you guys to understand this? Are you showing your true disdain for the teachings of Islam?

      1. cory

        That’s ridiculous. The United Nations Commission on Human Rights says that recanting your religion is a fundamental right. Article 18.2 specifically bars that sort of coercion.

        It is also not a universally held belief among Muslims, has no solid basis in religious texts, and is even leveraged by extremists against more moderate members of their religion.

        It is silly to claim that organizations that are some subset of a religion have any bearing on Obama’s religious standing, but it is an outright lie to claim that it has any sort of legal bearing.

      2. Green Mountain Boy

        With regards to Islam you know absolutely nothing cory. Renouncing islam will get you the death penalty in serveral countries on this earth.

        Good luck getting iran, pakistan, and saudi arabia to comply with the un.

      3. cory

        “And we all know the United Nations decides what religions practice.”

        And we all know that Amazona decides what religions practice. I notice you ignored the portion of my post where I pointed out that this is not universal among Muslims. How’s that working out for you.

        “With regards to Islam you know absolutely nothing cory. Renouncing islam will get you the death penalty in serveral countries on this earth.

        Good luck getting iran, pakistan, and saudi arabia to comply with the un.”

        And which of those countries are we in? I notice also that you are now referencing national policies and not religious ones. Since when are any of those countries the authority for an entire religion?

      4. Green Mountain Boy

        Pick up a quran and read it. The whole thing. Find the apostates place in it. It does not matter in what border a muslim resides. Find the islamic principal of taqiya. Learn it.

        Again you show that you know nothing about islam. You probably think islam means peace. Get a copy of that book and learn it. You have the same place in islam that the apostate does. Again, it does not matter in what border you reside.

      5. Captain Obvious

        Which country are we in? Let me ask Rifqa Bary if Ohio is in this country … I’ll get back to you on that.

      6. Captain Obvious

        Still waiting for a response from Rifqa Bary, but Rashad Khalifa hasn’t been able to respond; having been killed for apostasy in Arizona, which i’m assured was at the time in “this country“.

      7. cory

        I like how you guys have developed this conversation of whether Obama is somehow a technical Muslim into a conversation about the evils of Islam. Way to stay on topic guys and girls.

      8. Captain Obvious

        Really, your point is undermined by the fact that right there on the tag cloud on the right, one of the biggest tags is “Barack Hussein Obama” and posters here repeatedly refer to the President of the United States as things like “ochimpy” or claim that he is a secret Muslim.” cory’s first post.

        Stay on topic??? Projection much?

      9. Cory

        I’d re-read that post and determine what it actually said, if I were you. I was complaining that you guys had turned a discussion about whether Obama is a secret Muslim (yes a point I brought up) into a discussion about how Islam is bad (a point completely unrelated to the first). Now if past experience indicates anything, you’ll realize your error but then try to cleverly turn your admission of a reading failure into a personal insult directed at me and/or liberals and end up just looking like more of an idiot.

      10. Captain Obvious

        Amazing, you not only know my past history you know— um, wait a tic, what other kind of history is there?

        But, you didn’t bring up the subject of Islam you brought up the subject of Muslims?

        That’s your defense???

      11. Captain Obvious

        Listen, as much fun as this has been allowing you to look foolish I really must be going.

        Besides, isn’t the little bus waiting to take you home now?

        ciao —>

    1. Amazona

      Why not? Race is now a political category.

      A few years ago I asked a Lefty on this blog why the Left was using racial attacks on Condoleeza Rice, Thomas Sowell, and other black conservatives, and I was told that they were “not really black” because they had “sold out” their race by having conservative political philosophies.

      In other words, race has become one of those infinitely flexible and mutable terms used (and abused) by the Left, to bludgeon opposition by creating emotional spasms of outrage that overshadow any reason or intellect.

    2. cory

      So trying to trap into voter bigotry is totally cool as long as you do it by linking someone to a religion which they do not practice and not by using race?

      1. Captain Obvious

        Playing with Race Semantics?

        Why not?

        You’ve been seperating “Hispanics” for years; and they’re Caucasians.

  4. Green Mountain Boy

    We endured eight years of Dubya being called every name possible. Chimpymcbushhitler was a popular one amoung the lefties.

    chimpymcobamahitler now offends you?

    1. neocon1

      GMB

      It was soooo appropriate to call W chimpy for 8 years so why not continue the TRADITION?
      simply add the “O” to it …works for me.

      PS
      the worst, most vile hate filled, racists I have ever served, worked, lived, schooled with were BLACK.
      just for the record.

      1. neocon1

        Allen West on Herman Cain: ‘Conservative Minorities Scare Liberals’

        We are “supposed be part of this 21st century plantation.”

    2. cory

      Yes, the typical “Well they do it, too!” response. Welcome to 8th grade! Aren’t Christians the ones that always complain to me about my relativistic morality?

      Also, anecdotal evidence is not equivalent to demographic information. You can find people saying outrageous things in any group of sufficient size.

      1. tiredoflibbs

        Well cory, your party does do it and your party has issued and regurgitated the most vile descriptions of the last administration. Plus, the vile descriptions of conservative blacks of Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell (before he criticized Bush), Condi Rice, etc. etc. that you libs continue to dish out.

        What is more pathetic is that you and your party act as if nothing happened and then have the gall to be offended by your own tactics thrown back at you.

        You know the old saying – “you can dish it out but you can’t take it”. Then there is “people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.”

        These are oh so applicable to you leftists. Stop the whining and grow a spine.

      2. tiredoflibbs

        That’s it wally, keep lying to convince and feed that fragile ego of yours is always right!

        You prove my point time and again. Personal insults are personal insults – facts are facts. Your posts are full of the former will next to nothing for the latter.

      3. Cory

        See, here’s the thing. They aren’t “my party”. I am not part of any party. If Democrats say racist things, it is also appalling. It is just ridiculous to read a bunch of posts about how other people are bigots when this blog is so full of bigotry.

      4. Amazona

        Cory squeals: “Welcome to 8th grade!”

        Feel free to ask for a hall pass, Cory. Once you have left the room, the blog IQ and maturity averages will skyrocket. You’re dragging down the curve,

  5. Green Mountain Boy

    It’s kind of funny. If today were August 30, 1939 and I was telling telling everyone that the nazis were hell bent on conquering the world. I am sure our resident lefties would be calling me “naziphobic”

    It would be funny if it weren’t sad and true.

    1. tiredoflibbs

      “If today were August 30, 1939 and I was telling telling everyone that the nazis were hell bent on conquering the world. I am sure our resident lefties would be calling me “naziphobic””

      Nah, these lefty drones would be calling you “fear monger” as they did when it came to terrorism under a non-liberal administration.

  6. watsonredux

    You guys really think there is no racial innuendo in referring to President Obama as “ochimpy”? And right wing talk show hosts such as Limbaugh, Ingraham and Savage are not race-baiting at best?

    But let’s get to the main point of Leo’s ire, which is the photo accompanying the “hit piece” he referred to. I looked up the photographer and he took a number of photos of Cain on the campaign trail in Michigan. Guess what? You’d be hard pressed to find another black person in ANY of them. Why do you think that is, Leo? Perhaps because there were little or no black people in attendance? I know you want to see grand conspiracies in everything, Leo, but maybe there’s a simpler explanation.

    Here’s an example:

    http://gma.yahoo.com/photos/cain-gets-back-to-campaigning-amid-scandal-1320970205-slideshow/republican-presidential-candidate-herman-cain-greets-supporters-big-photo-164210611.html

    1. Amazona

      So what’s your point?

      That conservatives look at ideas instead of skin color and this is just beyond the limits of your comprehension?

      That most black people ARE successfully brainwashed into remaining on the Democrat plantation, and so don’t have an interest in listening to a conservative speaker even if he is of the same race?

      That it takes a Lefty to find something sinister or otherwise offensive in a photo of a black man wearing a fedora with his arms around two white women?

      It’s been Lefties, or more to the point you clueless Pseudo-Lefties, who keep yammering on about how Cain “dressed himself”. What’s THAT all about?

      It was Lefty talking heads who kept going on and on about his accusations coming from a blonde woman, about “black sexuality” and so on.

      1. watsonredux

        Are you being dense on purpose this morning, Amy? “That it takes a Lefty to find something sinister or otherwise offensive in a photo of a black man wearing a fedora with his arms around two white women?”

        Go back and read Leo’s post. The whole point was that HE found something sinister in the choice of a photograph with Cain in the company of white women. He brought it up. Why? Leo sees bogeymen everywhere, and he’s typical of a certain brand of conservative. He’s disingenuous, if not hypocritical. And your response makes me think you are, too.

        Next time the Michigan Tea Party ought to recruit more black people to their Cain events so that this sort of thing doesn’t happen again. (I’m being sarcastic, Amy, which I’m sure is lost on you.)

      2. Cluster

        watson,

        You never cease to amaze me. It’s hard for me to believe that you, or any liberal for that matter, could even begin to call conservatives racially sensitive in light of what happened in 2008 and beyond. ANY criticism of Obama was met racial charges, regardless of the source. So in actuality, this is just pay back, which is a bitch, and you are not taking it very well, are you?

      3. tiredoflibbs

        Cluster, the libs are pissed (and scared excrement-less) that their taken-for-granted black vote is being threatened by Herman Cain. Their rhetoric that African Americans cannot be successful without their (democrats) help and aid has been proven false by the successes of Herman Cain.

        They also don’t have the “market cornered” on accusing the other party of being racist against an African-American. We have heard these accusations before that people like Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice and Herman Cain had to “act white” to get where they are – not to mention other racial terms such as “oreo” or “uncle tom” used by the left.

        watty’s meltdown is just a single example of this behavior of their fear and anger.

      4. Captain Obvious

        That’s what we’ve been doing wrong! We’re supposed to “recruit” people to attend events based on skin color!

        But … wait a tic … wouldn’t that make us racists if we did?

      5. Amazona

        (I’m being sarcastic, Amy, which I’m sure is lost on you.)

        Sure, if by “being lost on (me) ” you mean I know the difference between sarcastic and just plain dumb.

        I’m sure we all remember when people who were seated behind Obama in his campaign speeches speeches were moved around to provide a demographically acceptable image.

        It’s a Lefty thing, which is why they get so wound up when others don’t pay attention to such superficial racist fluff.

      6. Amazona

        And BTW, wattle, you didn’t answer any of my questions.

        That’s OK—there’s still time.

        Waiting……………….

      7. cory

        See, even the core of your reasoning as to why black people vote Democrat is kinda racist. It isn’t that demographic data indicates that black people are overwhelmingly poor and poor people vote for the party that promises to protect the welfare programs they rely on, or any other rational reason. It is because they are all a bunch of idiots.

      8. Amazona

        Cory, you present a false paradigm. It is not “either/or” but a combination of both.

        Yes, many of the poor vote in a shortsighted and selfish manner, interested only in what they think might benefit them in the short term and ignorant or indifferent to the consequences of their greed. These people just want OPM and will do whatever it takes to get it.

        You call this “rational”.

        As for being idiots, I prefer the term ignorant. It does not refer to actual intellectual capacity but merely to what has been learned.
        And these people have not learned many lessons that others have—–that work is empowering, leading not only to economic progress and even prosperity but to self-respect and personal dignity. That sucking on the government teat not only diminishes people but undermines the economy, thereby limiting opportunity for all, including them. That voting to continue filling the government trough means voting to remain at a subsistence level of existence, with no hope of getting off the plantation and becoming truly free. That voting for a paternalistic government means voting for staying in a plantation mentality, where one is dependent on Massa and must work to keep Massa in power.

    2. Leo Pusateri Post author

      Watson, perhaps it’s time you called Sherlock and did some deductive reasoning. My point has NOTHING to do with the race of the women in the picture. My point is that they chose to run THAT picture, totally unrelated to the story, to shore up their meme that Cain is nothing but a pimp. Again– is your reading comprehension that absent that you cannot understand:

      “No agenda on the part of photographers there, I mean, given that he probably posed for pictures with countless others that day. No direct linkage of the photo with the story. No thought as to the possibility that they could have posted a solo picture of Cain.”

    3. Amazona

      wattle bleats: You guys really think there is no racial innuendo in referring to President Obama as “ochimpy”?

      Actually, as the term “chimpy” was used for more than eight years to refer to and identify a white native Texan, I believe the addition of the letter “O” to apply this term to Obama is actually an effort to call him a Texan.

      1. cory

        Yeah, we’ll ignore centuries of systemic racism that specifically involved high profile philosophers and scientists comparing black people to primates, because they totally don’t matter. I’ll quote Voltaire here:

        “It is a serious question among them whether the Africans are descended from monkeys or whether the monkeys come from them. Our wise men have said that man was created in the image of God. Now here is a lovely image of the Divine Maker: a flat and black nose with little or hardly any intelligence. A time will doubtless come when these animals will know how to cultivate the land well, beautify their houses and gardens, and know the paths of the stars: one needs time for everything.”

        Or how about Georges Cuvier:

        “The Negro race… is marked by black complexion, crisped of woolly hair, compressed cranium and a flat nose, The projection of the lower parts of the face, and the thick lips, evidently approximate it to the monkey tribe: the hordes of which it consists have always remained in the most complete state of barbarism.”

        But pshaw, people totally called a single white person a chimp and it totally counts as the same thing.

      2. Amazona

        And it takes a Cory to link Voltaire and Cuvier to the 21st Century American Conservative Movement.

        As it takes a Cory to pretend the reference to George W. Bush s “chimpy” is not related in any way to the small alteration to the word to make it apply to Obama.

        But gee, guys, shouldn’t you be just as outraged at the effort to portray Obama as a Texan.

      3. cory

        “And it takes a Cory to link Voltaire and Cuvier to the 21st Century American Conservative Movement.”

        You are only linked insofar as you guys are using racially charged terminology and people like Voltaire and Cuvier are the reason the terminology is racially charged.

        “As it takes a Cory to pretend the reference to George W. Bush s “chimpy” is not related in any way to the small alteration to the word to make it apply to Obama.”

        Let’s pretend for a minute that people here started using the term completely innocently, not realizing that they had stumbled across incredibly offensive phrasing. If somebody points out that what you are saying is incredibly offensive, wouldn’t the normal response be to stop using it because you’ve learned better? Can’t you even be bothered to come up with alternative ad hominem attacks that don’t make you look like an outright racist every time you use them?

        It really all goes back to the same thing as bringing up the President’s middle name at every opportunity. What do you gain by what you are doing? Do you really think that using the other team’s insult back at them is so clever on its own that you can’t skip the opportunity?

  7. Cluster

    The following is Cory’s response to the Apostate comment by Amazona – and is absolutely priceless:

    That’s ridiculous. The United Nations Commission on Human Rights says that recanting your religion is a fundamental right. Article 18.2 specifically bars that sort of coercion.

    This comment needs to be in the B4V hall of fame.

      1. Amazona

        And the whining begins. And goes on, and on, and on, and on…….ad infinitum.

        When I said Obama had been “legally” identified as a Muslim I referred to the documents from his schools in Indonesia. That is the only legal reference I know of which so identifies him as being Muslim.

        I guess I should have known that the nitpicker-in-chief of the resident RRL trolls would jump on that word.

        However, my comment on the internal laws of Islam have nothing whatsoever to do with any LEGAL definition.

        Clearly this is an issue which calls for a hysterical focus on the one word, in an effort to obfuscate the real issue, which is the simple and inarguable FACT that according to the internal law of Islam, which we are enjoined to respect if not actually revere, Mr. Obama is still a Muslim.

        Defy, deny, and disrespect Islamic law all you want. Squeal, titter and whine about the use of the word “legal” when it referred only to school records of the young Barry Soweto. It is all just noise, just a transparent effort to deflect from inconvenient reality.

      2. Amazona

        Captain, it’s a legitimate observation. I don’t know why or how that wrong name got stuck in my consciousness but it does pop up every now and then and I appreciate the correction.

      3. cory

        “Clearly this is an issue which calls for a hysterical focus on the one word, in an effort to obfuscate the real issue, which is the simple and inarguable FACT that according to the internal law of Islam, which we are enjoined to respect if not actually revere, Mr. Obama is still a Muslim.”

        Citation needed on it being the internal law of Islam. And I mean for all sects, not just the leadership of a few countries like you guys keep citing.

      4. Amazona

        Cory, are you denying that Islam has declared that one cannot renounce Islam, that one is a Muslim for life albeit an apostate Muslim who rejects the teaching of Islam?

        Are you really claiming that this is not part of the actual teachings of Islam but is just the personal opinion of, as you put it, “…the leadership of a few countries..”—which you oddly claim we guys keep citing. ????????

        Sweetie, if I had the time to educate you, I wouldn’t start with the tenets of Islam. I would probably start with the actual writings, ideology and history of the political system you appear to support and defend, which is far more relevant than whether or not a Muslim can de-Muslimify himself.

      5. cory

        Expressing shock is not a substitute for providing evidence. Nice try, but I’m still waiting. Sugar plum.

    1. cory

      Make sure to include the context line from Amazona:

      “Obama was a Muslim. He was officially and legally identified as such.”

      I’m not the one who tried to bring legal definitions into it.

      1. Amazona

        No, you are the one who obsessively focused on one word, which was not by the way a legal DEFINITION of religious affiliation but merely an observation that a previously identified religious affiliation was listed on a legal document.

        Or do you truly not know the difference between being IDENTIFIED as being of a certain belief, and DEFINING that belief?

        Probably not, given your tendency to make utterly stupid comments about “conservatives” based on someone IDENTIFYING them by certain criteria, without the least regard for the actual DEFINITION of the term.

        Give it up, Cory. You tried to make something out of nothing and, once again, made a fool of yourself.

    2. Captain Obvious

      According to theinternal laws of Islam” and a United Nations Commission are both “legal definitions” only if you consider the Law of Gravity and the laws of unintended consequences are also “legal definitions”.

      What a sap.

      1. Cory

        Then why, exactly, is Amazona talking about how Obama was “legally” a Muslim? It amazes me how frequently one of you guys can try to make a point, I can refute it in like terms, and then a bunch of you dogpile onto me for touching a topic that I didn’t bring up in the first place. Do you guys just skim the posts, or are you actually incapable of keeping track of a conversation that is more than three sentences long?

      2. Captain Obvious

        You didn’t bring up @ November 14, 2011 at 2:51 am?

        Must have been another cory, right?

        bad cory, bad cory.

        Now for sap cory, According to the LAWS — OF — ISLAM Obama is LEGALLY — A — MUSLIM. Follow? Laws – legal – legal – laws? See a pattern here?

        Doesn’t matter what any organization says otherwise, the internal doctrine of the religion is all that matters officially and legally.

        stupid cory, stupid cory

      3. Cory

        I see nothing in my post that references Obama’s legal standing as a Muslim. I was assuming the standard, not insane definition of religion where the only metric for belonging is self-identification. Amazona tried to pull the whole stupid technical Muslim argument, but the easiest way to assess a ridiculous argument like that seemed to be to examine in on its own terms and determine which law would have legal standing for Obama. Clearly given that he is not in a country that practices Sharia Law nor does he self-identify as Muslim, international law would take precedence over religious doctrine practiced by some sects of Islam.

      4. Amazona

        I don’t think there IS a “legal standing as a Muslim”. There may be, but I am not aware of it.

        I know a legal document once referred to an identification of Obama as a Muslim, but I do not think this had any legal authority behind it.

      5. cory

        “I know a legal document once referred to an identification of Obama as a Muslim, but I do not think this had any legal authority behind it.”

        Then why are we talking about it? Given your belief system and your belief system alone, if a man abandons Islam and converts to Christianity, is he a Muslim? What if there isn’t even any indication that he practiced Islam besides one single document that he didn’t fill out himself?

      6. Amazona

        Gee, Cory, who knew that my belief system, and my belief system only, has any authority within Islam? Wow. I suddenly feel so EMPOWERED. Does this mean I can change the attitude toward Jews?

        Since when does it matter to a single Muslim what I think of any internal rule or teaching of Islam?

        Personally, I think a person has the right to describe and define his belief system any old way he wants to. If Barry wanted to call himself a Muslim, and then a Christian, fine with me. He can call himself a ham sandwich for all I care.

        At some point I might look at his definition of Islam to see if it has anything to do with what actual MUSLIMS think it is, and I might compare his bastardized racist “Christian” faith to traditional and accepted definitions of Christianity, but as far as what he CALLS his beliefs, who cares?

        Just as I do with his politics, I look at his history and his actions to decide if I find his highly convenient definitions and claimed identities valid or relevant. My interest would probably be just to decide if he is honest or not.

        Why are you so freaked out by this? I merely poked a little fun at you wild-eyed drooling Lefties and your obsessions with the trivial, such as whether or not some people think Barry is a “secret” Muslim, and you come all unwound and shrill. All I said was, no secret, anyone who is even slightly familiar with the religion knows that once a Muslim, always a Muslim, and he was clearly and repeatedly identified as a Muslim in his early years.

        You are just illustrating, quite brilliantly I have to admit, the RRL’s insane focus on the trivial and superficial. I guess this is what they substitute for actual political discourse.

        Get a grip, Cory.

      7. cory

        “Gee, Cory, who knew that my belief system, and my belief system only, has any authority within Islam?”

        I didn’t say your opinion has any authority over Islam. I just asked what it was.

        “Since when does it matter to a single Muslim what I think of any internal rule or teaching of Islam?”

        I am not claiming that, either. I am asking whether you would classify Obama as a Muslim, without regard to what difference it would make to anybody else.

        “All I said was, no secret, anyone who is even slightly familiar with the religion knows that once a Muslim, always a Muslim”

        I am not a Muslim, Obama is not a Muslim, and I assume you are not a Muslim. Why then does it matter at all what Islam has to say about his religious status?

      8. Amazona

        But Obama WAS a Muslim. So, according to Islam, he still is, just an apostate Muslim.

        I never was a Muslim, so this law does not apply to me. Or, I assume, to you.

        Why do you insist, so stridently, on being irrelevant?

      9. cory

        “But Obama WAS a Muslim. So, according to Islam, he still is, just an apostate Muslim.

        I never was a Muslim, so this law does not apply to me. Or, I assume, to you.

        Why do you insist, so stridently, on being irrelevant?”

        I’m still waiting on that evidence that you have any idea what you are talking about when you claim to speak for the beliefs of an entire multi-sect religion. And an explanation as to why a bunch of people who are not practicing Muslims care what Islam has to say about our identity.

  8. Green Mountain Boy

    Apostacy. What a circular argument here. Leftys expect every single black person to be a leftist. When the odd black consevative is found, they are tried and convicted of being an apostate to liberalism.

    What is there to argue about? Is there something else this could be about?

    1. Cluster

      An apostate to liberalism is a spot on observation – well done. Too bad recanting one’s ideology is not a fundamental right by the UN or the NYT!

      1. Green Mountain Boy

        Of corse not Neo, everbody knows there is no such thing as a black liberal racist or should i just say a liberal racist. The only real colour they are concerned about is green.

        OPM it does a libbie good!

      2. Green Mountain Boy

        He wasn’t dragging anyone. That guy had a taxi waiting and the marine just didn’t want him to run up the meter. Lets get the story straight.

        Marines are very helpful and nice people if you ask me. :P

    1. Green Mountain Boy

      I’m pretty sure that if Newt does win the nomination, any debates will be cancelled because of racism. Either that or bams will bomb Isreal. bams will find a reason not to get anywhere near Newt.

      Newt can talk the talk, the problem is his walk doesn’t match his talk,

      1. bardolf

        GMB

        If Newt wins, the media will do to Newt what it is doing to Ron Paul. Basically the will declare Obama the winner because, believe it or not he’s a smooth talker and can easily handle Newt with a moderate amount of training. At that point Clueless and others will say the media isn’t fair …

        When CBS gave 89 seconds to Paul that was okay because he’s a crazy candidate after all.

      2. Captain Obvious

        89 seconds is about 90 more than we can take of this whack-a-doo.

        “If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.” … “I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” Ron Paul

      3. Green Mountain Boy

        Bardolf. That never ceases to amaze me the way some consevatives give credence to the legacy media. Why do they continue to seek the approval that will never have anything but hatred for conservatives or libertarians?

        I like Mr. Paul’s domestics policies. His foriegn policies suck big time. As a person I find Mr. Paul despicable. He has a history of wrongness.

        However stating that, he is my second choice behind Michelle Bachman for president.

        Let the fun begin.

      4. bardolf

        Captain Obvious might want to note that all of this was written by an aide who Paul fired afterward.

        Enjoy your Newt.

      5. Captain Obvious

        Ron Paul either can’t control his own press releases (which he signed) or he’s a racist?

        Incompetant or vile —->Tough choice.

      6. bardolf

        Internal Freddie Mac budget records show $11.7 million was paid to 52 outside lobbyists and consultants in 2006. Power brokers such as former House Speaker Newt Gingrich were recruited with six-figure contracts. Freddie Mac paid the following amounts to the firms of former Republican lawmakers or ex-GOP staffers in 2006…

        Pushing back, Freddie Mac enlisted prominent conservatives, including Gingrich and former Justice Department official Viet Dinh, paying each $300,000 in 2006, according to internal records.

        Gingrich talked and wrote about what he saw as the benefits of the Freddie Mac business model.

        I’ll stack Ron Paul’s incompetence in controlling his press releases with Newt’s outright lying any day of the week.

      7. Captain Obvious

        A Hobson’s Choice. who cares about Newt?

        First Ron Paul claimed the quotes were “taken out of context” then he claimed they were “written by unnamed writers.”

        Was he lying then or is he lying now?
        (hint: he’s a scary-stupid racist liar)

      8. Captain Obvious

        The “newsletters” contained “”an obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays”, attacked Martin Luther King Jr. and offered “kind words” for David Duke.

        Goes beyond simply “controlling press releases.

      9. Captain Obvious

        ” $11.7 million was paid to 52 outside lobbyists and consultants in 2006.”

        Did anyone ask Newt is he made any money as a consultant?

        I think he was asked if he was a paid lobbyist. (you forgot the part about Newt being questioned about “lobbying” without that little tid-bit your post about “outright lying” makes no sense at all.)

        Sucks to be you!
        hahahahahahahaha

  9. watsonredux

    cluster said, “You never cease to amaze me. It’s hard for me to believe that you, or any liberal for that matter, could even begin to call conservatives racially sensitive in light of what happened in 2008 and beyond. Obama was met racial charges, regardless of the source. So in actuality, this is just pay back, which is a bitch, and you are not taking it very well, are you?:

    Whether or not you or anyone else is racially insensitive does not depend on what happened in 2008. Racial insensitivity is racial insensitivity. You’re just finding ways to rationalize and justify it. You admitted as much by calling it “pay back.”

    Further, I never said those on the left aren’t racially insensitive. That’s you and tiredoflibbs projecting again. (Didn’t tired lecture us the other day about projecting?)

    And finally, tired, if I call you out for your hypocrisy, it doesn’t mean I’m having a meltdown. It just means that I think you’re a hypocrite.

    1. tiredoflibbs

      “Didn’t tired lecture us the other day about projecting?”

      Not lecturing, pointing out simple cold FACTS about you liberal drones.

      Racial insensitivity, racism or however you wish to call it against Cain and other conservative African Americans by the liberal politicians, the leftwing mainstream media and academia – and you dismiss the left’s treatment with “see you did it against Obama”.

      Talk about hypocrisy!!! On another note, you will not find one post of mine that has any racially insensitive remark against obAMATEUR. How can I be a hypocrite when I have not done anything of the sort?

      Do you need to learn the meaning of the word hypocrite?

      It sure looks that way drone.

      1. watsonredux

        tired, I agree that racial insensitivity is just that. I thought I made that clear. I am fairly amazed that you don’t find it right here on B4V, but you’re entitled to your opinion.

        I never said “see you did it against Obama.” Please tell me where I said that. You can’t. That’s just you projecting again. I do recall you once explaining to me that the reason you employ the exact same tactics as the folks you despise is that they did it first. So maybe you need to consider your own behavior.

        What I said is that maybe there’s another explanation for the photo that Leo objected to so strenuously–a photo of Cain with a group of white people. Remember the point of Leo’s article? That was his main complaint. If you look at the other photos taken by the same photographer of Cain campaigning in Michigan, you will be hard pressed to find ANY black people other than Cain. I managed to find one in one photo–probably a Cain staffer.

        You guys are the ones that jumped to the conclusion that there’s racial motivation behind the article and photo, not me. B4V went so far as to call it a “lynching.”

      2. tiredoflibbs

        watty, I never said I did not see racial insensitivity here. All I said was that I (ME MYSELF AND I) never did it.

        That was pretty clear, but for some strange reason you saw something differently. Oh that’s right, all of us on the right are racists, we just don’t realize it or so the leftist dumbed down talking point goes.

        Sheesh.

      3. neocon1

        walleye

        Well, it’s not like black people were ever literally lynched in this country,

        In fewer numbers than whites….but 99% by the DEMOCRAT KKK

    2. Amazona

      wattle, what do you think of racial HYPERSENSTIVITY?

      What do you think of MLK’s goal of a nation where a man is judged by his character and not the color of his skin?

      What do you think of the goal of color-blindness? That is, a goal of a nation where skin color may be noticed in passing, as are hair color, height, and clothing choice, but not considered of any more import than those other superficial things.

      What do you think of the repeated comments that a conservative black person is “betraying his/her race” by having a belief in a Constitutional form of government for the United States?

      What do you think of the inherent racism of lowered expectations, such as shown by the argument that people of color simply cannot succeed without help from the government,and lowered standards applied to them?

    3. Leo Pusateri Post author

      Again, Watson, I mean, I wrote the article but I may be wrong. But where did I say that my objection to the picture was because Cain was with white women???

      Projection, I believe thy name is Watson.

  10. Amazona

    I personally would not care if Obama were to step up and and declare that he is a practicing Muslim—except for the political components of Islam, which I have long been seeing as a quasi-religious, quasi-political hybrid and not just as a belief system meant to lead people to personal redemption and salvation. I don’t care about the belief system a person chooses to develop his or her spiritual life. I do care about a belief system which is based upon the annihilation of those who do not share this belief, and I do care about a belief system which so clearly states a goal of world domination.

    In the case of Obama, my personal belief is that he has no spiritual core or commitment. While he was described in legal documents as a Muslim, when a young man, and while he evidently identified himself as Muslim when he attended Islamic studies in his school, there is no evidence that he ever held a deep-seated spiritual commitment to Islam. When he chose a “Christian” religion—–“Christian” in quotes because a study of Black Liberation Theology finds its relationship to actual Christianity to be both tenuous and grossly distorted—–the choice appears to be based on a combination of political expediency and a visceral attraction to the overt hate-based racism of the church he chose.

    I have yet to see anything from or about Barack Obama that would indicate a belief in and commitment to a religious belief. Even his commitment to Jeremiah Wright’s church was evidently pretty superficial. A biography of Obama said that when the Wright controversy arose and people asked Obama to explain how he could sit in the pews of Wright’s church for 20 years and not hear the incessant spewing of racial hatred, Michelle Obama insisted that the issue be ignored, because she felt that the truth—-that Obama very rarely attended the church and had only a personal relationship with Wright based on what they had in common—-would do more harm to her husband’s campaign than the perception that he had accepted the sermons without objection.

    So I find efforts to discuss Obama’s religion to be irrelevant. I do not think he has a core spiritual belief, or if he does it has yet to be exhibited by any serious religious affiliation.

    1. Amazona

      Having said this, I also need to state my belief that Obama, like so many Marxists, has a spiritual core which is so intertwined with politics that they are inseparable and essentially one and the same.

      We can see this, in just one example of his more recent statements: “..my individual salvation is not going to come about without a collective salvation for the country..” When we look at his other statements and his own accounts of his political awakening, we can clearly see that he views “salvation for the country” as adoption of Marxist ideology and government, as redistribution of wealth, of government control intended to address issues of what the Left calls “social justice”.

      It’s a common Leftist belief, which is why there is such evangelical fervor among so many radical Leftists. To these people, the issue is not how best to run a successful and liberated nation, but how to use the power of the central government to impose their concept of salvation on the country.

      Theologians such as theology scholar Dr. Robert A. Morley take a dim view of black theology. Morley’s paper “The Goals Of Black Liberal Theology” is one widely quoted paper citing specific criticisms of black theology.

      He states that black theology turns religion into sociology, and Jesus into a black Marxist rebel. While making statements against whites and Asians, it promotes a poor self-image among blacks … Black theology calls for political liberation instead of spiritual salvation.

      And Pope Benedict said, writing of the fall of the Soviet Union,
      “…where the Marxist ideology of liberation had been consistently applied, a total lack of freedom had developed, whose horrors were now laid bare before the eyes of the entire world. Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes not divine, but demonic.”

      As much as our resident Lefty and Pseudo-Lefty trolls hate and try to avoid discussion on actual core beliefs of the two opposing political models in this nation, understanding the Leftist muddling of politics and spirituality is essential to really identifying its goals and spotting them when efforts are made to implement them.

      1. neocon1

        play it again sam

        Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

        1. Commitment to God
        2. Commitment to the Black Community
        3. Commitment to the Black Family
        4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
        5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
        6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
        7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
        8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
        9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
        10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
        11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
        12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

        BLACK VALUE SYSTEM

        Statement of Purpose

        We honor Dr. Manford Byrd, our brother in Christ, because of the exemplary manner in which he has thrice withstood the ravage of being denied his earned ascension to the number one position in the Chicago School System…

        The Black Value System

        These Black Ethics must be taught and exampled in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect the following concepts:

        Commitment of God

        “The God of our weary years” will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism and become Black Christian Activist, soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind…

        Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect

        To accomplish anything worthwhile requires self-discipline. We must be a community of self-disciplined persons, if we are to actualize and utilize our own human resources instead of perpetually submitting to exploitation by others. Self discipline coupled with a respect for self, will enable each of us to be an instrument of Black Progress, and a model for Black Youth.

        Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”

        Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must keep the captive ignorant educationally, but trained sufficiently well to serve the system. Also, the captors must be able to identify the “talented tenth” of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor’s control.

        Those so identified as separated from the rest of the people by:

        Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.

        Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.

        Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of “we” and “they” instead of “us”…

        A visit to the church’s bookstore shows they have been true to their word. It is full of “Afrocentric” books, many of which make the usual preposterous Afrocentric claims, such as that Cleopatra was black.

        The book store also shamelessly hawks Mr. Osama’s books:

        But Trinity Church’s proselytizing doesn’t stop with re-writing history and promoting its parishioners.

        Here is the latest sermon from its pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. (pdf file):

      2. Amazona

        Yep, neo——a pseudo-religious political movement based on racism and Marxism, luring people in with a hodge-podge of claims of Biblical inspiration, validation of racist hatred and resentment, and condemnation of participation in a capitalist society.

      3. cory

        “When we look at his other statements and his own accounts of his political awakening, we can clearly see that he views “salvation for the country” as adoption of Marxist ideology and government, as redistribution of wealth, of government control intended to address issues of what the Left calls “social justice”.”

        Marx is probably rolling over in his grave whenever you guys compare Obama to him.

        “As much as our resident Lefty and Pseudo-Lefty trolls hate and try to avoid discussion on actual core beliefs of the two opposing political models in this nation, understanding the Leftist muddling of politics and spirituality is essential to really identifying its goals and spotting them when efforts are made to implement them.”

        Ah, we’re back to boiling an entire political system involving thousands of representatives and millions of constituents down to the complexity of a pickup game of flag football. By the way, I am not spiritual in the least. How does this made up conflation of the spiritual and political apply to me?

      4. neocon1

        corky

        .” By the way, I am not spiritual in the least”.

        geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee what a SURPRISE.
        who’d a thunk THAT???

  11. Leo Pusateri Post author

    You’re right, Cory– maybe Marx is a wrong analogy.. I mean, Obama had a penchant for hiring admirers of Mao.

    Our bad.

    1. Cap'n Obvious

      I agree that Marx is rolling over in his grave at being compared to Obama; —> Marx wrote his own books.

      1. Cory

        I can’t find indications at a quick glance that Obama’s books were ghostwritten, but even if they were, is that really the fight you want to pick when conservative politicians all the way from Palin to Reagan didn’t write their books?

      1. neocon1

        ©Jack Cashill

        In his new book, “Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage,” best-selling celebrity journalist Christopher Andersen has blown a huge hole in the Obama genius myth without intending to do so.

        In the way of background, I had first advanced the thesis that Bill Ayers played a major role in the writing of Obama’s much acclaimed 1995 memoir, ” Dreams From My Father,” in WorldNetDaily more than a year ago.

        Relying on inside sources, quite possibly Michelle Obama herself, Andersen describes how “Dreams” came to be published, and it is just as I envisioned it.

        According to Andersen, Obama was “hopelessly blocked” in his effort to honor the $150,000 contract Simon & Schuster had advanced him after three years of trying.

        Obama was particularly worried because he had spent $75,000 of the advance and had produced nothing. In 1993, the publisher canceled the contract but let Obama keep the money after he pled poverty due to “massive student loan debt.”

        After his agent secured Obama a smaller contract with the Times Books division of Random House, Barack and Michelle decamped to Bali in the hope that he would be able to finish the book without interruption. That did not happen either.

        With the deadline pressing, Michelle recommended that Barack seek advice from “his friend and Hyde Park neighbor Bill Ayers.”

        To flesh out his family history, Obama had taped interviews with various family members. Andersen writes, “These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers.”

        Andersen quotes a Hyde Park neighbor: “Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together. It was no secret.”

      2. neocon1

        Bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha

        MSNBC HARDBALL 866,000
        MSNBC MADDOW 814,000
        MSNBC O’DONNELL 766,000
        MSNBC SHARPTON 734,000
        CNN COOPER 565,000

        Pee Wee Herman re runs do better than these turds.

  12. neocon1

    FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,185,000
    FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,207,000
    FOXNEWS BAIER 2,104,000
    FOXNEWS SHEP 1,969,000
    FOXNEWS GRETA 1,669,000

  13. Ryan Murphy

    Cory: When Obamas boosters try to clazim him as the best writer since the Bard himselfr on something he didn’t write? yeah. At least with Reagan you find in his private notes he actually can write, and rather well.

    See no evidence that Obama can.

    1. Cory

      Ah, so it had nothing at all to do with a comparison to Marx and was just a way to take a cheap shot at Obama. Got it.

      1. Amazona

        In what distorted goofy alternate universe does agreeing with the writings of man constitute COMPARING one to the other?

        Again, your shrill hysteria is annoying. At least try to match your stridency to something that was actually SAID.

  14. Jeremiah

    Yes, it is the guilt that lays heavy on the liberals collective heads, which is why they must accuse those who are in the know, and more up to date, and more knowledgeable about the true realities of the political system that we have established as “racists.”

    Not realizing, that if they would only stop doing such cowardly deeds, that they wouldn’t have to put up with such guilt laden consciences.

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